Your move.
>>69974449
>lower unemployment
>somehow also lower labor participation
>occupy democrats
>>69974449
>ended 2 wars
lol
>>69974449
Almost had me there.
>>69974449
>I got bin Laden
please explain why Obama should get credit for this
![fredgraph[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/qMVhf5X.png "fredgraph[1].png")
>>69974449
>>69974561
BRAVO OBAMA
>>69974449
>printed money for banks
>killed labor participation
>we're still in those wars and even more conflicts now
>President's don't control price of gas
>tripled our DEBT
>implying
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
>>69974449
Post hoc ergo propter hoc on most of that shit. The picture is more wrong than right.
>>69974666
as head honcho, aka commander in chief, that is his duty to take credit for the good missions as well as take flak for the bad ones. He was probably in the situation room and made a couple key decisions in the raid.
>>69974561
Can't blame him for lazy 'murican asses.
>>69974449
He's also killed race relations, was the president when ISIS was formed, takes credit for things that aren't really "his" (Bin Laden) while not taking credit for things that fall under the same category (Benghazi)
Oh and unemployment is not the same as labor participation. And his health care plan is completely insane and hated by many on both sides. And he lied about it.
And, he kisses the ass of Islam and gets madder and screams louder at the decrying of that religion than he does the foul acts enacted in his name.
But, I guess I'm a racist for noticing.
>>69974666
Hurr durr caus he wuz przidencts and shieeet when da guy was caut nigga.
>>69974449
Conservacucks BTFO
>>69974679
for those wondering it means that since Obama there's a net extra 4-5% of Americans who don't work anymore. And it's still going down fast.
>>69974767
>He was probably in the situation room and made a couple key decisions in the raid.
Lol.
>polarized the country like never before
>revitalized race relations for the worse
>>69974449
>Nearly tripled the stock market
Oy vey, with zero wage growth too! You've out done yourself, goy!
Why don't you see if those negative interest rates they're trying over in Europe will take next?
>>69974893
No the unemployment rate is 5% and Obama is to thank for that. Don't delve into the meaning behind any of this, just follow the bullet points and don't question anything.
>>69974449
>WALL STREET IS FULL OF GREED CROOKS
>THANKS OBAMA FOR MAKING WALL STREET MORE PROFITABLE
Liberals
conservfucks btfo
>>69974790
>was the president when ISIS was formed
lol, btfo again conservacucks
>>69974767
So where is the blame for Benghazi? That was a fucked mission.
>>69975142
Thanks, Clinton
>>69974449
>tripled stock market
as if stock market means anything.
>cut unemployment
by changing definition of unemployed to not count people who have stopped looking for work
>ended two wars
nope.jpg
>cut uninsured rate
by making it mandatory to buy insurance
>brought gas down to $2.75
price of gas is constantly changing and the president can do little to affect it
>cut deficit
muh deficit
>got bin laden
literally any other president could have done this. it was a very very easy call.
>>69975240
Did you miss the part that said it STARTED TO GAIN TRACTION AFTER THE 2003 IRAQI INVASION.
learn to fucking read, but I know that is probably hard when you de-fund education.
>>69974449
>I came into office at the very bottom of the recession, and then claimed credit for the natural bounceback
What brought down gas prices was fracking, something that his Chosen Successor Shillary and Commie Sanders are falling all over themselves to oppose. He also threw another expensive entitlement (Obamacare) on a pile of entitlements that already cost hundreds of billions of dollars too much, distort the economy, bloat the government, and encourage dependency on it.
>>69975248
>as if stock market means anything.
so you're perfectly ok with us liberals taxing the fuck out of stock market transactions?
>nope.jpg
ended two wars that were started by a warmongering republican fuck who didnt even pay for them.
>by making it mandatory to buy insurance
It is mandatory to have insurance, if you cannot afford it, it is given to you. it is actually a lot less of a privacy invader than registering your fucking car.
>muh deficit
conformed for butt blasted retard
>literally any other president could have done this. it was a very very easy call.
then why didnt they :)
>>69974449
>nearly tripled the stock market
Which means fuck all to the economy since paper stock trading means fuck all to the economy
>cut unemployment in half
Meanwhile in reality, LFPR has steadily increased to over 30% for ages 16-62 and over 20% between ages 25 and 54 which means between 1 and 5 and 1 in 3 Americans of working age aren't actually working.
>brought gas down to $2.75
Actually the Arabs did that and it's completely dicking the economy and sent Canada back into recession.
>cut the annual Bush deficity by two-thirds
While initially increasing it significantly and driving the debt to unprecedented levels.
>Oh, and I got bin Laden.
Actually, Bush signed the OOO for that. It just happened when you were President.
>>69974449
>Cut unemployment in half
>ended 2 wars
>occupy democrats
>All these lies
>Lyin Obongo
pic related
Your move
>>69975301
Did you miss the part it was founded in 1999
>>69975561
It would have petered out and died away a small, radical band of idiots had they not had a reason to be galvanized. Bush's wars gave the middle east terrorist the best recruiting tool they have ever had.
>>69975520
All of those graphs show patterns of rise or decline before the area highlighted red, anon.
You might as well be claiming that the sun rises because the rooster tells it to.
>>69975301
Yes, let's throw more money into a failed system and hope for better results.
Percent of high school graduates who can’t read 19 %
Reading Level of U.S. Adults Percent
Proficient 13 %
Intermediate 44 %
Basic 29 %
Below Basic 14 %
http://www.statisticbrain.com/number-of-american-adults-who-cant-read/
How about you spend your time teaching some kids and adults to read instead of shit posting on the internet. I'm sure you'll do great things that will make us all proud.
>>69975498
>ended two wars that were started by a warmongering republican fuck who didnt even pay for them.
The documents for US pullout were signed by Bush, Obama just followed the treaties.
>>69975609
I'm sure it would have died out sooner than 4 years, something before the Iraq War kept them going.
>>69975679
But anon
>I'm an English tutor for foreign students and children with learning disabilities.
That is my job.
>>69974449
>>tripled stock market
Tripled the national Debt you mean
>>cut unemployment
The economy has improved I'll give you that, but it's not due to any economic policies or changes brought on by the Obama administration
>>ended two wars
what now ? is that statement true or is it false ?
>>cut uninsured rate
by creating the failure that is obama care
>>brought gas down to $2.75
nigger please pic related
gas was cheaper when he took office, and it was terrible in 2012
>>cut deficit
But again, tripled national debt
>>got bin laden
did nothing they had been looking for him since 2001
>>69975679
This is Obama's fault too by the way.
20 trillions in debt on the back of American middle class while Jeff Bezoz, Musk and other billionares buying 100milliondollars yatchs.
Sure, Obungo has been useful, to the rich.
>>69975710
And look how fucked it is following Bush's plan ;-)
But yeah, didn't Obama get rid of all the colonels and generals that told him troops need to stay
He posted it again! Isn't OP a funny guy?
>>69975761
Good job then, I guess.
>>69975609
>It would have petered out and died away a small, radical band of idiots had they not had a reason to be galvanized
uwot? Radical Islam has been around since the early 20th century and has been gaining traction ever since, whether there were wars going on the ME or not. You're a fucking idiot if you think that ISIS, Al Qaeda etc would have died out had the U.S. not invaded the ME.
>>69974449
lol, The market never recovered, the economy is literally on life support through ridiculously low interest rates.
>>69975772
>The economy has improved I'll give you that, but it's not due to any economic policies or changes brought on by the Obama administration
Than what was the cause?
>what now ? is that statement true or is it false ?
It is true, he ended two wars.
>by creating the failure that is obama care
Care to say something that isn't a Fox News talking point? Like, maybe explain why?
>>69974449
>six years
Anyways, surprised no one brought up the fact everyone claims the economy is doing great, ignoring the Fed hasn't increased interest rates since December after saying it would every month since the first increase.
>>69975667
So what your saying is that because something is starting a slight decline that it's okay for it to fall off a cliff to fit your argument?
>I tripled the stock market
kekkedy kek
Straya going strong tonight
>>69974449
>Tripled the stock market
wew lad what is a real estate bubble
also theres this little thing called laissez faire policy that keeps the Pres from affecting stocks as long is were not about to bankrupt the Earth.
>ended two wars
yeah terrorism is really on the decline, 3 attacks (4 possibly) in the last 3 weeks alone
>brought gas down to 2.75
when you get in bed with the desert devil he's bound to give you a treat now and then
>Bush deficit
nigger please were more in debt now than we were when doubya was in
>got bin laden
CIA found him SEALs got him, you only approved it because SOCOM kicked your front door down and said "were going to kill him, it's been 117 days since we found him and you havent done a single fucking thing about it."
Being the star man that you are you took credit for it and took revenge by revealing a picture of SEAL team 6.
>>69975679
How much would that change if you deported ghetto trash and illegals?
>>69976029
>bankrupt the earth
again
bankrupt the earth again
>>69975881
We are so fucked, I hope the bubble pops before the election, I'd hate if Obama escapes the blame for creating such a thing.
>>69975869
Just wait til the fed decides to raise them, and then the full brunt of "curant prizendents post hoc fallacy meme" inflation will be readily apparent.
>>69975998
hush now , kek poster
>>69976107
Who knows, ask the English tutor in here that think it's intelligent.
You dont end a war by retreating.
>the country didn't dip further into recession
THANKS OBAMA, GREATEST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME
>pulled out of Iraq halfway and caused it to collapse
What a waste of money and life
>>69976164
Just wait until Bernie gets elected and he forgives all student loans and makes college education free, while taxing the top .1% of earners.
MFW
>>69975947
I'm saying that it's not logical to attribute it all to something just because they happened around the same time.
Even if you insist that they are correlated despite it being a fallacious claim:
>Student loans continue to rise steadily from before the highlighted area.
>Money printing incline is slower than it was just before the highlighted area.
>Healthcare costs continued to drop before they rise.
>Black Inequality rises about the same as it did 8 years prior.
>Home Ownership is only continuing the steady decline that began in 2005.
>>69974893
>>69974893
It's called retirement. Boomers are hitting retirement age and have been for a while. Or is it Obama's fault a whole bunch of people were born in the late 40s and early 50s?
>>69976323
>bernie
>electable
Trump doesn't have a chance either but Bernie REALLY doesn't have a chance.
>>69976323
>and he forgives all student loans
I know you're being facetious, but he has literally said he isn't going to do that and that everyone is still going to have to pay back their student loans.
>>69976107
Quite a bit, but I'd argue that those people aren't trash. I understand that is an emotional argument though, but I'd like to point out that your counter argument is just as emotional.
Tripled the stock market? You mean doubled. And it only doubled because the dollar became so devalued. More Quantitive Easing will make it go up even more, like it always does.
>>69976388
>It's called retirement. Boomers are hitting retirement age and have been for a while
People keep saying that, but the average retirement age is 63 and the LFPR for ages 25 to 54 is over 20% so that doesn't quite fit your little theory there champ.
>>69976398
You've been in the echo chamber too long, the left hasn't been this electrified since 08.
>>69976388
you're stupid, people above the retirement age aren't counted in this
>>69976494
The right hasn't been this electrified since Reagan. I'd put my faith in the people who have the constitution in line with their beliefs rather than the ones who stand on the American flag as a mean of peaceful protest.
>>69976494
Oh you poor deluded fool
>cut unemployment in half
I'm pretty sure the combination of welfare users and the homeless equals to 20-30% of the population. We're living in a depression. Also, the president doesn't necessarily have to be the reason for economic conditions because the president has limited abilities.
>ended two wars
We are involved in multiple wars that only exist for unspoken agendas. The US military can annex Syria in less than a year and fix the Syrian civil war but we don't because the war exists for a different purpose. Also, it's not simply a good thing to end wars. There are wars that are necessary while others aren't.
>cut the uninsured rate in half
Insurance is meant to make money for insurance companies. The need for insurance is artificial. Most risks in life don't even require insurance and the one serious risk, medical cost is better dealt with by providing medical care paid from tax money. Insurance is a covert form of lending against interest; the interest and repayment are disguised as "premium", and the loan itself as "remittance". If you realize that this loan in most cases remains in the pockets of the insurance companies, you will understand why they are so keen to safely insure you against anything they can think of and that will most likely never happen. And again, the president doesn't just get people insurance, insurance companies have tons of people working to get you insurance. It's a false cause fallacy to say that the president caused *something* to happen when in all likelihood, it isn't his fault.
>brought gas down to 2.75
Many economists are very afraid of the consequences of gasoline going down in price. It may shoot way up soon.
>got Bin Laden
Obama didn't get BL, the military got BL. The military got BL without Obama giving any orders.
>or as Fox "news" says
The majority of the country, Fox watchers or not think Obama is shit.
I see this image so often, I couldn't resist.
>>69976494
>electrified
Apt word usage fellow burger.
>>69976542
>who have my interpretation of the constitution in line with their beliefs.
fixed that for you.
>>69974449
>tripled the stock market
Just ignore the wage stagnation and rising cost of living.
>cut unemployment in half
Just ignore that pesky labor participation drop.
>ended two wars
Which already had planned withdrawals announced during the Bush administration. Not to mention funding civil war in Libya. Not to mention dumping billions in arms into Syrian anti-Assad rebels which made their way into the hands of ISIS. Surely won't be any future wars there.
>cut uninsured rate in half
And the poor just love how affordable the insurance is. Sure none of them can afford the $6,000 deductible, but at least they are forced into having insurance they can't use.
>brought gas down
Fuel tax hikes did nothing to help that. He also brought down the price of the iPhone 3! Entirely out of presidential control.
>cut down ANNUAL bush deficit
Cut down the budget deficit for only the last year of the Bush administration by maintaining that level of deficit for four years and then lowering it to levels still higher than Bush's first 7 years. Bush drives total debt from $4 trillion to $9 trillion. Obama drives total debt from $9 trillion to $19 trillion. Hurr durr not the first president to double the debt.
>got bin Laden
Like our intelligence agencies hadn't been working on that the previous ten years. Also drone struck several US citizens.
>>69976323
>taxing the top .1% of earners.
So he's gonna tax his fellow jews very harshly? Why do I not believe this?
>>69976696
M8 I don't have the mental wherewithal to debate with you tonight, I'm working the overnight and haven't slept since 5 am yesterday.
>ended two wars
Lmao
>>69976843
Someone take over and banter with this guy because I'm fucking exhausted.
>>69974449
In six years, under his stewardship, he has watched the complete annihilation of social cohesion and either done nothing to try and unify the people in solidarity or, worse, was complicit in the entire affair.
>>69976837
Bernie Sanders’ net worth is $528,014
>>69976843
Low energy.
>>69974449
Still hasn't fucking closed Guantanamo, which is why I voted for the nigger in the first place.
Fuck him.
>>69976949
One of the only valid Obama criticisms in this thread.
I voted for him and I agree.
>>69974449
Why do you think we watch Fox News?
>>69976542
>>69976542
And most of that electricity comes from people opposing Trump.
Let's all be honest here, the numbers Trump is getting are from people who have long been disinterested in politics or haven't voted in a really long time.
The same can be said for Bernie except that many of his supporters also include new voters from a newer generation of them who simply haven't voted much since they've been able to.
Both of them have a strong support base made from people not heavily associated with either the Democratic or Republican primary. They also both have a chance of either alienating or being alienated by the ruling class of their parties, as well as their supporters.
The only difference there is that Bernie has long held and older styled liberal views from a generation before Neocons. He's literally a moderate liberal if he were running 50 years ago. That means that he has a better chance, if he wins the nomination of the Dems, to pull the old school Dems (the Hillary Dems) back under his umbrella after defeating Hillary.
Trump, on the other hand, has a snow ball's chance in hell of pulling in the current Republican establishment voters. Most people who didn't vote for Trump, which is most Republican voters I might add, don't want to vote for him in the general either. They don't want to vote for a Democrat, but they likely just won't vote. That's why the Republican establishment would want to run a 3rd party candidate so that the down ballot (congress, senate, state government, ect) will at least get some influx of voters to support them that aren't Trump supporters.
The Republicans are fucked this year. You're either fucked hard, or fucked soft, but in the end you're getting fucked. Trump is the worst thing that could have happened to the party because he divides it in a way that is repairable.
How many of you niggers from plebbit decided to come here anyway?
When you stare into us, a little bit of /pol/ gets inside you.
We're inside you right now pleb.
>tripled stock market
I love it when the stock market goes down it's the fault of the evil corporations when it goes up its to the presidents credit, unbelievable
>cut unemployment
by changing definition of unemployed to not count people who have stopped looking for work
>ended two wars
The Iraqi Units currently locked in a death struggle with the Isis army occupying Mosul would prolly debate that
>cut uninsured rate
and in the process oversaw a MASSIVE hike in insurance rates. Many people are canceling insurance because they can't afford it anymore. The system we have now can't be sustained, but hey thats the next guys problem right?
>brought gas down to $2.75
Wrong, The Saudis trying to bankrupt the Iranians and the Russians and damage the U.S. fracking industry brought gas down to $2.75 Bama had nothing to do with that.
>cut deficit
Wrong the deficit ballooned upon the arrival of the democratic congress on 2007 and spiked horribly when a dem congress was joined by a dem President. It's come down largely because A) it couldn't stay as high as it was at the beginning of the Obama administration B) There was a republican congress elected that can stop some overspending. Obama DOUBLED the national debt. He has no credibility on overspending whasover
>got bin laden
CIA found him, Special forces killed him. The former would have happened anyway and any other president would have ordered the latter or a bomb strike to deal with it.
In short nice Soviet style revision of history.
>>69976941
>Bernie Sanders’ net worth is $528,014
That that doesn't put him in the top .1% does it? How about you learn some reading comprehension before you try teaching reading comprehension to children. I didn't say I didn't believe he wasn't going to tax himself did I? Straw man some more fellow burger.
>>69977004
Shills are out in full force.
People aren't making videos proclaiming how Trump is a great man standing up for American values because they're disinterested in politics.
>>69976511
here's 25-54, still going down https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=l6Q
>>69975667
That's your rebuttal seriously? You fucking libshits are great with the bantz. Get fucked you nigger loving faggot Reddit misses you.
>>69976941
No I just have a job.
>>69974449
Troll post? Seems like it. He relies on socialist tactics like statistic fudging to tip the scales in his favor. Romanian socialist government did this with everything to make the government look better. Still no proof of Bin Laden yet Saddam was broadcast across the world.
>country has bigger problems since after 7 years of a rookie in office and no amount of bullshittery will convince majority of this nation he's done a job worth mentioning.
>>69976837
Because he is a punished jew looking for vengeance
Daily reminder that it would cost 3 trillion dollars to put everybody between the ages of 18-25 to school for 4 years of a Bernie presidency.
avg cost of college: 30k a year x number of americans between 18-25= 25million x 4 years
>>69976949
why do you want guantanamo closed? is it not a place for shitskins to suffer harshly?
>>69977093
People are doing that for every candidate and have been doing that for every candidate for years, you fucking rube.
>>69977004
>the numbers Trump is getting are from people who have long been disinterested in politics or haven't voted in a really long time.
This is a statement from someone disconnected from reality. In this age of internet memes and lol so random, do you think that Trump memes and his give no fucks attitude just go by unnoticed by young people?
My sister is a senior in high school and all she ever talks about are IRL meme spammers for Trump and utopian kool-aid drinking pro-Bernie fags.
>Tripled the stock market.
Is no one going to point out the fact that this statement makes zero fucking sense? The stock market is highly volatile and fluctuating prices are dependent on a multitude of factors; a nigger president "fixing" prices is not one of them.
This is why liberals are cancer. They regurgitate recycled horseshit like this picture and their retarded peers fall for it because it's the trendy thing to do.
This world is fucking going to hell.
>>69977093
>>69977093
Did you even read what I said, dipshit? I said PREVIOUSLY disinterested in politics. That means their support is new and isn't from the long time party voters. That also means they're fickle as fuck and evaporate if Trump isn't the nominee and work AGAINST the party establishment if he IS the nominee. Which means the establishment will run someone as a third party so that they can at least save the House and Senate seats at risk by adding the establishment vote (the ones who wouldn't vote if Trump were nominated) while also splitting the Republican vote to the point that it is impossible for a Dem to lose.
It's not that fucking hard to understand. Trumps support comes from outside the normal party voters and doesn't suddenly rejoin the party if Trump isn't nominated. The establishment are exactly reversed. Some of them would rather see Clinton than Trump. Either that or they won't vote at all.
So you're fucked if you do and fucked if you don't.
>>69977305
I don't know what a rube is so I don't know how insulted I should be right now but fuck you regardless.
>>69977334
>high school
Wew lad
>>69974449
1 he didnt even double the stock markets volume. pre obama it was a 12k volume market its a 16k-17k market now
2 he only was able to do it by QE stacking. the fed put trillions of dollars in and claimed it had removed each wave before the next was put in place but it didnt. its still there any pone wcould have done that
he didnt end any wars. the war on terror is still ongoing and terrorist attacks happen in iraq and asdfganistan. america still has troops in both. he started a new war with syria that isnt over as well
the low price of gas is killing american production and american oil comp[anies are in the red for the second year in a row. if we dont have $70 a barrel oil they will go bankrupt or need a bail out
obama hasnt cut the annual deficit you faggot. the legislative branch changed hands and the republicans wont let him spend more money. still 19 trillion in national debt thanks to baka obamuhs faggot ass
still you gota love that tyrone is cheering for the home team. it shows how stupid he truly is when the black community is more adversely affected by the obama administration with higher than normal unemployment. but i doubt he can even read all the lines of text i just posted
>>69974449
no one respects america or fears them anymore because of this guy.
>>69977355
That's actually not even remotely true, a lot of the people I'm talking about are vietnam vets and similarly aged people worried about their social security evaporating under another liberal. Vets in particular love Trump because he promises to broaden the RoE
>>69977334
>>69977334
Sorry, kid, but high school fuckery is literally meaningless in an election. Go to bed, the adults are trying to have a conversation.
>>69977355
Voting for a party/voting out of fear of the outcome is what's wrong with this country. If the majority of people want him to be president it will happen, there's too much media on the polls and too anal of a man running for them to get away with screwing him out of the general election.
>>69977355
no need to ad hominem because your candidate sucks anon
>>69974449
>>69974449
Alright, I've got time to take the bait on one Aussie shitpost thread before bedtime.
>tripled stock market
not really something the President can take credit for; markets pretty much go up or down depending on a huge number of factors.
>cut unemployment in half
technically true in that unemployment is half what it was when he took office, however at the time the country was still in the middle of an economic crash that caused the unemployment rate to jump up. The number would have gradually gone down one way or the other anyway as the economy gradually recovered on its own.
>ended two wars
Prematurely, and now we have Isis to deal with. Thanks.
>cut the uninsured rate in half
By forcing formerly uninsured people to buy shit-tier insurance that they don't really need in order to avoid paying a ridiculous tax penalty. Thanks.
>brought gas down to 2.75
Please stop trying to take credit for this.
>cut the annual Bush deficit by two-thirds
Debt was at around $10.6 trillion dollars at the end of the Bush administration, up from around $5.5 trillion, so an increase of roughly 5 trillion under Bush. It now stands at around $18.7 trillion, so an increase of roughly 8 trillion under Obongo. Obama increased national debt by nearly double what Bush did. All you've proven is that Democrats can't do math.
>Oh, and I got Bin Laden
Yes, technically Obama did "get" Bin Laden, the same way McCain would have "got" Bin Laden had the election gone the other way. Obama just happened to be President at the time when Bin Laden was caught, and all he really had to do was say "Yes, go ahead and shoot him" when the Navy Seals called up and said "We found Bin Laden, can we shoot him?". The same thing McCain, Bush, Gore, Trump, Ross Perot, or literally any other president would have done in the same situation.
>>69977456
>>69977456
Uhh, it's VERY true and it's shown to be so in a lot of data given out from pollsters. You can't just claim that Trump is both 'bringing in new voters' and then claim that they've been voters the whole time. It's one or the other, dipshit.
>>69977131
So do I, but I don't whine about it.
>being this upset about being low energy.
what a cuck
>>69975301
im always confused by this, when an american insults another americans de-funded education. are you using a proxy or is this just a meme to make fun of each other.
>>69977549
I'm stating facts, and I didn't even come close to telling you who I support. Also calling a person a dipshit isn't ad hominem if I literally follow it up with another argument. Go back to your high school debate home work, son.
>>69977382
>Seniors in high school aren't 18 and don't count as new voters.
Thanks, Poland.
>>69977459
>Sister
Apparently reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits.
>>69974638
wow, i stopped browsing /pol/ for 4 months.... what the fuck happened?? Newfags errywhere
>>69974449
Checkmate.
>>69977565
Okay let me clarify since you think all of America is one age.
Trump is amazingly successful at targeting Generation X/Y persons and select millennials (newish/new voters) while also galvanizing many Reagan era republicans and democrats with his similarities to the hollywood man himself. He also manages to captivate many of the vietnam era people with his common sense conservatism and promises to help the military, who got dicked after vietnam.
Not to mention him being the antithesis of a politician and therefore innately playing on the rebellious spirit of many jaded Americans.
>>69974449
>Lowered the deficit
>debt almost triples
how the fuck does anybody figure this?
>>69977696
>>69977696
Apparently math and averages aren't yours, kiddo. Chances are that you're near her age if she's your sister, give or take a few years. So you're either slightly younger, slightly older, or a mathematical anomaly. Either way my level of giving a shit is far too low to carry on this stupid conversation about some high school students and their retarded family members.
>>69977565
And to add on you can go on and make whatever argument you want and I'll probably read it but it wont matter because I'm still voting for Trump.
Short of him getting caught with his pants down outside a daycare I think most of his voters feel the same.
>>69977569
You know what's missing from current education models? Classical education, where Grammar, Logic and Rhetoric are explored, taught and actively engaged in by students. Given your poor performance in this thread, you're certainly not up for the job.
I don't really expect a high level of discourse on this board, especially from regressive liberals that vote for and make excuses for Obama.
Template for everyone to funpost with.
>>69977789
Manipulation of language. Lowered the ANNUAL budget deficit rate. Translation: Bush spends -6 units year 8, Obama spends -6 units year 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Then year 6 only spend -2 units. That's how that works.
>>69977816
I didn't know I needed averages to know I'm six years older than my sister. But cool assumption.
Thanks for the (you) and for completely missing my original point about younger demographics, illiterate nigger.
>>69977878
I'm shitposting because this place is a shit hole. I figure why not add on to the pile if it amuses me?
I agree though, we need less test/memorization in our classrooms and much more hypothetical reasoning, logic, etc.
Look, you're agreeing with a leftist on an issue!
>>69975498
Yet Obama then got us all involved in Libya, then pulled out halfway leaving it to an unenthusiastic NATO to finish under Canadian command.
>>69974449
<tripled the stock market.
No. No he didn't.
>cut unemployment in half.
By this they mean he juiced the numbers by implementing Obamacare and making people work two part time jobs.
>Brought the price of gas down.
Nothing Obama did caused the current supply to exceed demand. Though he's probably happy it did because it hurt American oil companies.
>cut the annual Bush deficit by two-thirds.
No.
>Oh and I got Bin Laden.
And created ISIS to take his place. Well done, magical negro.
>>69978064
>>69978252
But her dick a bunch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvuulZPbfBg
>>69977774
>>69977774
I have seen absolutely no data to support the statements that he's gained any large amount of either generation X or Y. And while you mentioned it, Generation Y and the Millennials are the exact same thing just with a different name. All I've seen from them is a loud amount of meme posting online, which isn't represented in his voting statistics are all. Maybe if all you read is the circle jerk that you've come to know and love here at 4chan or over on your other faggy websites doesn't mean that equates into real numbers in the country. Statistically speaking everything you've seen people post online is incredibly insignificant as far as votes and voters are concerned. If you've got any data to support the theory that he's somehow gaining any large amount of young voters I'd love to see it, I really would.
The same can really be said for bringing in Democratic voters. I've seen no data to support that claim, either. I keep hearing him say it but that's about as worthless of a data sources as you can get. He's seen lots of things that didn't actually exist in reality. The best I could imagine him getting are some really conservative "Democrats" who weren't really Democrats but were actually Republicans in Democratic states. I also wouldn't even dare to call them Reagan Democrats because many of them are dead or Republicans now anyway.
Also, if there WERE any real "Reagan Democrats" left in the country they'd be voting for Hillary. She's so moderate she's leaning slightly right except when Bernie is in the race. In the November election they'll have pivoted right so hard she'll have gotten whiplash and another concussion.
>>69978201
I'd describe myself a classical liberal. I have issues with the double think out of your camp, but I can agree with some of the stuff that's put out by modern Democrats. That still doesn't mean i'm not going to be highly critical of their mistakes. Throwing more money at stuff like education isn't going to magically solve much of anything.
>>69978438
i saw meme posting somewhere in there so there you go
>>69974449
Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and Syria. The best part about Syria...
The bombing of Syria is the first time the United States has mounted a full-scale war since World War II without any one of the following
-- A U.N. resolution authorizing force.
-- As part of a NATO operation.
-- An Arab League resolution in favor of military action.
-- A specific U.S. congressional authorization for war in another country.
-- The invitation of the host country to conduct military operations as we have recently seen in Iraq, where the Iraqi government has been begging for U.S. military intervention.
>>69978224
>Yet Obama then got us all involved in Libya
Britain and France got us all involved in Libya. The U.S. was really tentative about getting involved and didn't want to overthrow Gaddafi at all. The only reason our government joined was because Britain and France would not shut the fuck up about it. Blame Cuckeron and Sarcuckzy, not us, fuckboy.
>>69974449
>taking credit for low oil prices which are due to economic downturns in China and Europe, surplus of oil stock and Russia's shenanigans in the Ukraine
MADMAN
>>69978317
can somone summarize this for a tired wagecuck
>>69978064
>>69978506
actually it was the other way around, US started it and we had to follow along
>>69978965
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya#Chronology
>calls by France and UK to intervene days before the US Senate did anything
>Senate only urged UN to maybe do something about it
>France and UK become actively involved over a month before US becomes actively involved
>WE DINDU NUFFIN, IT WAS ALL OBAMA
Fuck off.
>>69974660
Fucking this. Every night. Everytime
Fucking shameful shitpost Australia, out some effort into it you cunt.
Let's get some Bernies in here to keep it spicy.
Correlation != causation
>>69978965
No, you and the frogs were pushing for the no-fly zone early on, and military action began on the same day. The French were ahead by a few hours.
>>69978438
>>69978586
Reading must be hard for you guys, what with your 8th grade education and all that cum in your eyes.
>true facts things Bernie will never say
>>69979292
>The French were ahead by a few hours
A few days. The French started actively bombing Libya on the 19th, while the rest of NATO didn't start bombing until the 25th.
>>69979460
>>69979460
The French dragged the US into Vietnam too, the fucks.
Seriously, why are we still their ally again?
>>69974449
>not posting the updated version
>>69974449
The chimp did not cut gas prices. That was Saudi Arabia. And the reason they did that was to kill the US shale industry before it could compete with them.
Hey and we all remember how giving loans to people with bad credit caused the recession this chimp supposedly saved us from.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-administration-pushes-banks-to-make-home-loans-to-people-with-weaker-credit/2013/04/02/a8b4370c-9aef-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html
Seems he is keen to start it all up again too.
>>69974893
>>69974679
>>69974561
>unemployment = lower labor participation
kek typical europoors
>>69979641
>Seriously, why are we still their ally again?
Not a clue I mean seriously
>tell us to fuck off after the revolution
>actively siege our ports during Napoleonic Era under Jefferson
>refuse to pay war debts after WWI
>refuse to pay war debts after WWII
>join NATO on inception then abandon it like a fuckboy in the 50's
>demand the U.S. help in Vietnam
>say they'll help us after 9/11 and then refuse
>Obama lets them in NATO in 2009 anyways
They've been bigger fucking pricks to us than the British ever were and we still call them "our greatest ally."
>>69975142
last time I wiki'd this they had a founding date in 2013. I guess they had to dial it back to encompass all the CIA operations they wanted to blame them for.
Seriously though, ISIS was a sunni pushback to shi'a oppression in Iraq after the sunni majority government was decimated and a new regime filled the void. the second Iraq war created ISIS.
>>69974449
>>69979648
What is this fucking deficit they keep referring to that has been magically cut? Last I checked, the national debt has more than doubled under his watch.
>>69979648
Also,
>gay marriage hasn't ruined the country
It hasn't even been a fucking year yet. Not that I think it will have any effect really, but hypothetically if it were a bad decision the consequences aren't made noticeable overnight.
>you've seen the birth certificate
You mean the one that was proven to be fake? Not a Birther, but it is still pretty damn fishy how protective they are of data that's been available for every president beforehand. We've also seen pic related. If that excuse for a certificate is fair game, so is this.
>>69975301
>Did you miss the part that said it STARTED TO GAIN TRACTION AFTER THE 2003 IRAQI INVASION.
And did you notice the part where it was pretty much underground but contained when Obama took office? No you probably didn't because you were too busy being a self-righteous prick to see what was going on in the world. Let me give you a history lesson.
While Al-Qaeda in Iraq did indeed grow larger under Bush, the main force of the insurgency was Muqtada al-Sadr. A fucking Shia. If you know anything about Islam you would know that Sunni and Shia don't like each other. Especially when it comes to the radical supporters.
But by 2008 (Still Bush in office) he had his forces lay down arms. The worst of the insurgency was over and Iraq could focus on rebuilding rather than fighting.
Meanwhile AQI (Al Qaeda in Iraq) founded in 2004 was small fry. They were a terrorist group conducting bombings and kidnappings, but they did not take and hold territory like the Sadr army did.
In 2006 they change their name to Islamic State of Iraq and by 2007 they start taking territory. But then the troop surge happens and the group gets pushed back underground due to the strong military pressence.
But then the Syrian civil war happened. And into this power vacuum ISI went. Now under the leadership of Abu Bakr al Baghdadi.
Initially they were good Al Qaeda members and fought under the Al Nusra flag. But as they took more land and gained more money and power, they didn't want to share with the rest of Al Qaeda and declared themselves independent from them and named themselves the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).
So tell me again how Bush is responsible you ignorant burger.
>>69980184
>shi'a oppression
when?
>>69980363
i think they are talking about the "annual" deficit, not national debt. so its an improvement, but doesnt really address the muh 20 trillion or whatever it is now
>>69980850
>>69980850
The bulk of ISIS fighters and top commanders are previous Iraqi Army personnel told to disband and fuck off after the initial invasion of Iraq. Bush literally supplied the army for ISIS.
>>69974449
>Tripled income of the 1% who actually have large stock investments
>Reclassified what 'unemployed' means again
>Pulled American troops out of two still ongoing wars while starting more Syria/Libya etc
>Gas prices dropped world wide, and that was thanks to Russia and Saudi Arabia over producing
>Cutting a deficit sure thats great but the debt is still there
>Got Bin Laden with intel and methods started by the previous administration and had Osama murdered instead of interrogated and THEN executed by the Afghani government which was a major mistake
But seriously he really fucked up on Syria though. Apart from that he is an alright president.
>>69974449
>occupy demokikes
>>69974449
Source: my ass
