>no right to free speech, hate speech laws out the ass and you can easily get arrested for it
>downright draconian gun laws
>need a license for fucking air rifles
>airsoft is banned
>LASER pointers are banned
>fucking YO YO WATERBALLS are banned
>novelty toy-like lighters are banned
>smokeless tobacco is banned
>fire footbags are banned
>toys containing beads are banned
>need a helmet to ride a fucking bicycle
>plain packaging on cigarettes
>absurdly high taxation on alcohol and cigarettes, most cuckfailians have to drink shitty goonbags because it's all they can afford
>many violent games and movies banned
>video games are expensive as shit
>no self defense allowed
>>69971628
Kek I thpught Canada was bad
What a nanny state shithole
>>69971628
Yeah nah we get along alright but.
>>69971628
feels bad man
Was thinking about applying to an Aussie university since I have family down there, but the atmosphere seems so dispiriting. There's this "yes we can!" attitude all over the website
check these dubs btw
>>69971628
92% white = no niggers
>>69971799
noice
>>69971628
k
>>69971628
"australia: no fun allowed"
>>69971806
>>69971865
ehh, you're more like 87 percent now..
and we're all headed this way
>>69971628
>Safe spaces are a thing in the US
>Dyed hair people protesting en masse is also a thing in the US
>More niggers and mudslimes in the US
>How many people died from guns in the US last year and how many used guns to defend civil liberties (hard mode: you can't cite the American revolution)
>Degeneracy such a smokeless tobacco is allowed
>Lower average income than Australia
>Lower average life expectancy
>Lower education as reflected unanimously by every study untertaken ever
>More stress and depression
>The American 5/10 is the Australian 2/10
>Higher crime rates in every aspect
>More 'diversity'
>Nigger president and female democratic frontrunner and 3rd grade reading comprehension orang-utan as republican variant
>>69971628
That is what the leftist want.
>>69971865
No one can really predict what the population distribution will really look like in 2050. If they build that wall and make america great again I think it would spur a different outcome.
>>69971628
It's pretty fucked m8...
I just want decent gun and self defence laws, even New Zealand have better laws than we do.
>>69971628
I've unironically seen Australians defend their totalitarian cuckhole on here. Ausfailia is like that one retarded child whose parents made him wear a helmet at home and covered up the wall sockets with plugs because he kept sticking a fork into them. That's how their government treats them like.
>>69972032
SJWism is worse in cuckfailia you retard. Unlike you, hate speech is protected here.
>more muslims
Not as a percentage or per capita.
>more people died to guns
What can I say? Freedom is not free.
>>69972032
Triggered as fuck. Have a laugh, I don't want you to up and shoot yourself in the head oh wait you can't. haha
>>69971628
>That's bullshit
>No, we can own guns, we're not like england
>Yes, but we can also own higher calibres then the military.
>Paint bal however, is
>Melbourne
>Melbourne
>Melbourne
>What?
>What?
>What?
>I see tons of people without helmets
>Because our government cares about health
>Read above
>Not anymore, infact most of them are reappealed.
>Everything is, happens when you've got a high standard of living and a developed economy
>Some of your states don't allow this.
>>69971628
Go deal with your problems before pointing out ours, Americans
>>69972359
>That's how their government treats them like.
kek that's what I was talking about
Half of their unis have shit like "We shouldn't degrade ourselves! We're on the path to self confidence!"
>>69972409
>that's bullshit
No it isn't.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-28/bolt-found-guilty-of-breaching-discrimination-act/3025918
Free speech in cuckfailia is a complete joke.
>>69972409
>I see tons of people without helmets
Which is illegal and the police regularly ticket you for it in cities.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/09/south-australian-police-denounce-cyclists-for-disregarding-the-law
>Because our government cares about health
To the point where everything remotely dangerous is banned or heavily restrictex lmao.
Feels good to be free.
>>69972592
They really don't have anything to be proud of
Daily reminder aussie land is a scary fucked up place
Dumping.
Aussie land is scary.
>>69972409
Why do ignorant cunts always thing they know everything about everything?
You don't know about anything, you shouldn't comment.
Everything you said was wrong in one way or another you stupid cunt.
aussie land is a scary place.
THIS IS COMMON IN AUSSIE LAND.
>>69972592
Well, He's a bloke who writes for a newpaper.
What do you expect? Speak however you like wherever you like but doing it over a buisness will get you the same penalities in the united states.
>http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/09/south-australian-police-denounce-cyclists-for-disregarding-the-law
Yet people literally cycle without helmets in my area near police officers constantly, the only time you'll be apprehended is more then likely if you're using the road, and if you are the kind of dumbfuck who rides without a helmet inbetween two ton pieces of metal then yeah, you should be fined.
>>69972809
>Shit legitimately has actual consequences on health
>lel cuckfailia
It is coming to the point where criticism against my country goes in one ear and out the other; I know my weapons laws are shit, that's why I vote for shooters and fishers, but we're relatively more politically sane then the governments fining people for not baking gay cakes.
>>69972592
It's the same as your Section 319.
But yes, it is a joke.
>>69972409
>Not anymore, infact most of them are reappealed.
Bullshit. Some games and movies have still been denied ratings and remain banned. They regularly release edited versions of those games as a result so the can get a rating.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_banned_in_Australia
>>69972932
Melbourne is actually the state which has all the weapons limitations, I haven't seen this elsewhere.
Other then that, it's mostly accurate to the word.
If I'm wrong people can prove me wrong, why you such a puss puss?
>>69973104
>What is Left 4 Dead?
>>69972932
Statistics sure as fuck know what they're talking about you dune coon
>>69973050
He was convicted in a court for hate speech you idiot. Read. It has nothing to do with being fired from your job. Your speech laws are trash.
>>69973058
>whatboutism
>>69973224
>Says Canada
I'm going out for now, if you really committed to shaming me when your politican literally speaks about a meme movement as political danger, then go ahead and wait.
>>69973050
>and if you are the kind of dumbfuck who rides without a helmet inbetween two ton pieces of metal then yeah, you should be fined.
Not really bro, thats your choice if you get fucked up.
>>69973167
What are you even on about?
Was I talking to you you fucking retard?
>>69973134
Melbourne isn't even a state you ignorant fuckwit.
>>69973327
Jesus christ mate, you know what I mean; are you sure you don't have two flaps down below? We're raising a bunch of little faint flowers.
Sheesh.
>>69972359
SJWism is worse in the US, if you grow a few trillion more brain cells and observe respective US and Australian universities this'll be abundantly clear to you
That's beyond the point. Australian whites are also making more children proportionally than US whites, and shit like San Bernardino deosn't happen here
Freedom is not free when thousands of people a year die from it obvs
>>69972367
exactly
>>69973036
>lost the will
You don't lose a will, you don't even keep the will usually, after its notarized, it stays with the lawyer unless you decide to go through a whole rigamarole to alter it.
>>69973134
WA is fucked mate
>>69973050
>Yet people literally cycle without helmets in my area near police officers constantly, the only time you'll be apprehended is more then likely if you're using the road, and if you are the kind of dumbfuck who rides without a helmet inbetween two ton pieces of metal then yeah, you should be fined.
Which is illegal. Your logic is the same as me saying that because some people speed and don't recieve tickets, speeding is legal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmets_in_Australia
Your anecdotes are just anecdotes. Police regularly ticket unhelmeted riders in your cities.
>Shit legitimately has actual consequences on health
Welcome to freedom, faggot. Your country fails to grasp this. There is no logic behind the smokeless tobacco ban.
>b-but you harm yourself
In a free society I should be allowed to.
>b-but muh healthcare costs
Smokers end up costing less because they die earlier, idiot.
>mfw go down the shops and see some muslim bitch in a burqa
Wish they would ban these fucking things.
atleast we genocided our niggers like men instead of letting them cuck is
>>69973387
And yet our free speech is far superior to yours. Hate speech is protected here unlike your country.
>Freedom is not free when thousands of people a year die from it obvs
It literally is. Hence the saying "freedom is not free". Thousands also die to alcohol every year. Freedom has always come with costs and risks to society.
>>69973629
Yeah we genocides the natives here too
We just had a ton of slaves that everyone decided needed to be free
Was a shit move
>pic related
>>69973493
>>69973134
>what is south park stick of truth
>or hotline miami 2
>>69973666
Yeah except the risks of no freedom are worse, Satan
>tfw psychological studies of elderly homes prove that given more choices they became happier and more content with their life, less stress
>tfw this leads to longer life expectancy
>tfw this can apply to everybody regardless of age
>>69971628
half of that shit is in no way enforced
>you dont know our culture in regards to authority
in primary school and high school you're encouraged to take the piss out of your piers
>>69972592
>'Easily get arrested'
>Anti-Discrimination Act
>Citing Andrew Bolt case
The ant-discrimination act isn't criminal law, it is civil law. You can't be arrested for hate speech, but you can be sued.
Andrew Bolt is one of the only cases where someone has actually been found guilty.
I don't think the law should exist at all, but it's not a crime for which you can 'easily get arrested'.
>>69973895
Except you were probably in primary school years ago you dense fuck
It's likely to be very different now
>>69972032
>more gun violence
Yes but most of that is suicides, cops shooting niggers, and niggers shooting each other. I don't see the problem
>>69973895
>>69973746
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/why-police-booked-cyclists-22000-times-in-the-last-four-years/news-story/b59ffe39b4ba60f2eabb53cf2e2a2c53
>i-it isn't enforced
Kek
>>69973943
So glad I have the first amendment kek
>>69973895
>piers
>>69973954
i doubt that very much
>pick on a minority in school
>teacher tells you off
>tell teacher to get fucked
>other kids get in on it
>minority often commits suicide
>a lot of teachers quit from stress
aussie high schools are brutal if you cant handle banter and or stand up for yourself
People always assume we have free speech and that it's a "free country" (in the same way the US is by virtue of their constitution).
Our constitution only gives us a few clearly defined freedoms. Freedom of religion for instance.
We do have the freedom of speech when it comes to discussing political matters, but it's a bit of a gray area.
>>69974121
>cyclists
those fucking cunts ask for it
>>69972906
>living in the NT
>>69973381
Fine faggot I'll go through one by one.
>>That's bullshit
It's not real our laws faggot, you have no right to speach free or otherwise.
>>No, we can own guns, we're not like england
England has gun laws almost identical to ours.
>>Yes, but we can also own higher calibres then the military.
Fucking retarded statement.
>>Paint bal however, is
Go buy a paintball gun at the shop then dumb cunt. You can't without a gun licence, which if you had one you could also buy airsoft guns.
>>Melbourne
Nope country wide ban on any laser pointer stronger than 1mw
>>Melbourne
Country wide, toy banned bacause people might stangle themselves or use them like a flail..
>>Melbourne
Banned australia wide because kids might play with them.
>>What?
Nope it's the whole country, but it's not outright banned, you can import, have to pay a massive tarrif which is 10 times the original cost of the product, but it's illegal to buy or sell in shops.
>>What?
Toy, banned because it involves fire.
>>What?
Toys with beads inside like stuffed toys are banned because choking hazard.
>>I see tons of people without helmets
All of them are breaking the law and can be fined by police.
>>Because our government cares about health
No the government cares about tax, the plain packaging is made by our government and they force tobacco companies to buy their packaging.
>>Read above
Again, they just tax it because they can claim it's for your health and they know you will continue to buy it.
>>Not anymore, infact most of them are reappealed.
Yes. The reason they were banned in the first place is because of one. That man hated videogames and had no interest in them so of course our excelent political system made him the man who decides what does and does not get banned.
>>69973381
>>Everything is, happens when you've got a high standard of living and a developed economy
No video games in australia have an absurd ammount markup far greater than other similar entertainment products like CDS or DVDS.
>>Some of your states don't allow this.
Here you go to jail if you defend yourself no matter which state you are in.
So you got one thing right and everything else you said was retarded.
Now you are playing ignorant because you think being a dumb cunt means you are clever.
You're just a dumb cunt.
Eat shit and die.
>>69971628
>need a helmet for bycicle
is depends on what state/territory. And in mine it only applies when you are on the road
>>69974431
>Here you go to jail if you defend yourself no matter which state you are in.
Why would you just go on the internet and tell lies?
>ID to buy a plastic knife
>>69974346
what cunt u got a problem? melbcuck
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/cigarettes-could-rise-to-40-a-packet-under-turnbull-government-tax-slug-plan/news-story/a9d75f1ac47f1637a5d91148adbfacdd
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/alcohol-tax-to-increase-cost-of-booze-and-raise-39-billion/news-story/18b7e192e3c23543d757aa029cd6cab8
>40 dollars for a pack of cigarettes
>alcohol taxed to shit and the government still wants even more taxes
>b-but muh degeneracy and health costs
Lmao. This is what happens when public health nuts are allowed to go batshit crazy in a country.
Thanks for providing me with more arguments against socialized healthcare. All it does is lead to a loss of personal liberty.
>>69974214
>aussies confirmed for white niggers
>>69974528
>Abo is breaking into your home and climing into your daughters window.
>Beat him up and detain him
>Call cops
>Cops lock you up for murdering the abo.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-29/man-charged-alleged-intruder-murder-remains-custody/7280312
This shit happens all the time.
>Group of men harrassing you and your friends.
>Punch one of the to defend your friends
>Jail because mandatory sentencing with one punch laws.
http://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/story/3207577/man-claims-punch-in-summer-street-scuffle-was-self-defence-refused-bail/
>>69973327
What about it? I'm saying you can't argue with facts
>>69974811
>man breaks into your house
>murder him
yeah, that seems like 'self defence'
>blokes giving some women the bants
>assault them
yeah, that seems like 'self defence'
Were these really the best examples you could come up with?
You forgot a couple things
>free health care
>free education
Heh, Ameridebts truly are the best goyim.
>>69974967
And what facts do you think I am arguing against you retarded faggot?
I never said a damn thing to you and you just started telling me I can't argue against statistics and facts.
I'm not even arguing with you. What do you think this conversation here is about you delusion cunt?
>>69974528
He's right though. Self defense is essentially illegal in this country.
The knife has to already be plunged into your chest before you can fight back.
>>69975110
>"free"
The only way you get away self-defence from home invasion if you stab yourself and put the knife in the invaders hands.
>>69971758
No we don't.
>>69975199
>He's right though. Self defence is essentially illegal in this country.
Ok, you team up with >>69974811 and prove it.
I'm sure that together you can do it.
>>69975226
Have fun being hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt when you want an education.
Have fun being thousands of dollars in debt if you ever need medicine or have to get surgery.
Americans are this stupid.
>>69975339
It's the law, you dumb cunt.
Same sex couples are already equal under law and what is this cunt doing?
>>69974354
>This is commonwealth wide, most countries enforce this, in america you can still be charged and I'm sure even jailed for speech depending on states, as a result of the law actually being a grey area since there is laws in the united states which basically step over the freedom of speech law, like discrimination acts for buisnesses, which is practically what we have.
>We've got handgun allowances, rifles aren't limtied by size but priming abilities, and collectors can keep weapons which the british can't, so no.
>We can, standard steyr augs use 5.56 while civilain rifles can chamber 30.06.
>You are correct.
>Honestly, I don't give a shit about the six banned items. I don't have interests in them.
As an anarchist, I'd rather nothing be restricted and people pay their own consequences; but criticizing a country for such shit is stupid.
>Mate, you ride helmetless any fucking where next to a goddamned neighbourhood patrol and they don't give a shit, sure it is a law but if you've lived here long enough and ain't some schizo you'd know this, ain't even my personal anecdote.
>Honestly, these two are up to perception if you really give enough shit about alcohol and smoke taxes, other wise who gives a literal fuck, whoopdedoo, you can't fucking burn your lungs with all kinds of poisoness shit and kill your liver.
>I want to play hotline miami, then I realize I can pirate it, I want to play syndicate, I pirate it, I want to play manhunt? I pirate it.
>>69975376
So prove it.
>>69971628
you forgot our version of the miranda warning:
>You are not obliged to say or do anything unless you wish to do so, but whatever you say or do may be used in evidence. Do you understand?
>whatever you say or do
this means that if what i do is say nothing, the fact that i said nothing may be used as evidence against me.
>>69972032
>lower life expectancy
I'll take 4 less years if it meant I'd enjoy far more negative liberty as a result. I don't give a shit about living to 90 if it meant I'd be stuck in a padded room and being free to do fuck all like your country.
>>69974531
Mate, that's the UK.
We might be retarded with gun laws, but we're not that retared.
And people think Sweden is the most cucked nation.
-Germany is worse with immigration
-Ausfailia pulls shit like this
-Sweden whiter than America and no nigger blacking the white house
>>69975349
>thousands of dollars in debt
Except I have health insurance and so do the vast majority of Americans.
Your socialized healthcare is why your country is a massive fucking nanny state kek. I'd rather people pay for their own costs.
>>69973420
This is Australia.
>>69975393
lol you're not very bright, are you?
>>69971628
some of these are common sense, but some are nanny state tier
>no right to free speech, hate speech laws out the ass and you can easily get arrested for it
true, and private entities get a lot of pollitical scope so you can easily loose your job etc by some company trying to score east PR points
>downright draconian gun laws
but the cops don't have to treat everyone like they are armed, our gangs have guns but not many, and as soon as they use them the heat is on
>need a license for fucking air rifles
>airsoft is banned
deliberate attempt t stop gun culture, a clear immoral repression on sections of society
>LASER pointers are banned
sounds stupid but they are actually a key companion to a lot of tech terrorists could utilise if they had the brains
>toys containing beads are banned
because we don't want kids to inhale them, what's the big deal?
>need a helmet to ride a fucking bicycle
that's a balance you strike when public healcare is free, otherwise you would let people take there own risks, but you have to curb that when public funds are involved
same as seat belts on cars, vehicle safety standards, drugs etc
>plain packaging on cigarettes
again because the taxpayer foots the bill, not the smoker
>video games are expensive as shit
actually the cause is simple exploitation by the US markets who develop everything, they hold a cartel when exporting overseas and set up exclusive trade arrangements with au retailers
itunes charges more here just because they can, and netlix won't even acknowledge that anyone from Australia purchases from them
>no self defense allowed
that's just wrong, there are a lot of misconceptions about this because unlike the american system our laws are less black and white so judges can decide what is reasonable, we shun mandatory minimums, and it's paid off for us on the whole
it's a broad trend
>>69975512
>Your socialized healthcare is why your country is a massive fucking nanny state
That makes absolutely no sense at all.
>AMERICA CLAIMS TO BE 1ST WORLD YET DOESN'T HAVE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE OR EDUCATION
l m a o
>>69971628
Literally all the things you have mentioned here are inaccurate.
Technically you have to wear a helmet buts it's not like the cops actually enforce it.
High price on cigs and alcohol but not that expensive, I still enjoy plenty of nice scotch and cigars.
They are literally the only things that you got right. come visit us, you will be surprised
>>69971628
Most of those arent even remotely true. Stop making us look like a dickhole of a Nation.
>>69975349
>Have fun being hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt when you want an education.
or you could get a job and pay for your own education instead of leeching off everyone else who works because you believe you're entitled to the "college experience" of partying and humping as soon as you graduate.
>Have fun being thousands of dollars in debt if you ever need medicine or have to get surgery.
or you could get a job and buy heath insurance on your own, instead of being a drain on the productive members of society and expecting them to pay for your poor choices/bad luck.
>>69975072
>'self defence'
>'self defence'
Yes that is excactly what self defence is. What do you think self defence means exactly?
>In the criminal law of Australia, self-defence is a legal defence to a charge of causing injury or death in defence of the person or, to a limited extent, property, or a partial defence to murder if the degree of force used was excessive.
In australia we are meant to have a right to self defence, however due to the inclusion of the term "excessive force" in the law it ends up coming down to people's 'feelings'. There is no real classification of what excessive force is or what is allowed.
So if someone 'feels' like retaliating to an attack at all is 'excessive' then you can be charged by the police.
This means even punching someone one time if they for instance grope your wife you can be charged with assault even though you were defending your wife.
Let's say for instance a teenager is badly beating up a small child and you see this and punch the teenager, you might go to jail if the police 'feel' you could have stopped the teenager by talking to him.
There is no classification. That's why retarded faggots like you can just sarcastically imply that someone defending their home or their friends or themselves is not self defence, simply because of your feelings.
Those are just two of the most recent cases which have been in the news the past week.
Dumb faggot.
>>69975565
But it is.
See this thread.
>draconian gun laws, taxes out the ads on alcohol, cogarettes, mandatory helmets, etc being justified because they are costs to public healthcare
So again, I'd rather people pay for their own healthcare costs so I can enjoy greater liberty.
>>69975608
They do enforce helmets, you're an idiot. They get commission.
>>69975391
>i only care about the erosion of freedoms when it's freedoms i personally enjoy or when i cannot get around the oppressive ban
>>69975522
You're the one that can't follow simple instructions.
You've made a claim.
A very obviously bullshit claim.
So back it up.
>>69975698
>In australia we are meant to have a right to self defence, however due to the inclusion of the term "excessive force" in the law it ends up coming down to people's 'feelings'
>excessive force
>feelings
The fuck are you even on.
Excessive force is someone breaking into your house and you literally murdering them for it.
Excessive force is some block calling a woman a cow and you breaking his nose because of it.
It has nothing to do with 'feelings'.
>>69975504
Your country is taxed worse then us, don't even let me mention iceland's fucking porn laws and how a lot of your laws aren't actually grey area because your people are so fucking scared of the liberal ideology.
Australia is different, we've got stupid as shit laws but our people wouldn't dob you for doing shit which doesn't hurt anyone else.
>>69975447
does the UK have $ signs on their prices?
>>69975608
>mentioned are inaccurate
They really aren't. Your "freedom of speech" is shit. See >>69972592
Gun laws are draconian, you need a license for air rifles, airsoft is banned. Google this yourself.
Yoyo waterballs, novelty toy lighters, toys containing beads and smokeless tobacco are banned:https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/bans
Many games and films remain banned see >>69973104
>>69975836
Yeah, and?
Mate, I'm an anarchist, if I lived up to my ideals I'd be six feet under. I live in this state and cooperate with it because it benefits me, even in between jobs I'm guarenteed wine and turkey mate, we've got a good country, and besides the government I'd live here just for the people and their nature.
>Australia supposed to have a have a hardcore food chain
>rabbits destroy it
>>69971628
i literally dont care about any of those things and none of them effect me on a daily basis. why do you even care?
>>69971799
>check these dubs btw
good job
>>69975920
You've got a point, it's also coles australia.
I think I was calling back to a outright ban to knives like the united kingdom has actually emplaced, the knife law you see in that image applies to people who aren't legally adults, you could own and use a dangerous as fuck machete as long as you aren't using it as a weapon, pretty sure we've got a few military standard knives in the house from services.
>>69972032
>How many people died from guns in the US last year and how many used guns to defend civil liberties (hard mode: you can't cite the American revolution)
Pic-related.
>Degeneracy such a smokeless tobacco is allowed
It's called freedom of choice. Do Australians really need babysitters to tell them what is and isn't "allowed"?
>The American 5/10 is the Australian 2/10
topkek m8
>Higher crime rates in every aspect
Higher population overall and niggers. You even said it yourself.
>Be foreigner
>Enter country with fake name
>Collect welfare for life
>Work on side doing dodgy rwc and AC, 4L cfc into atmosphere per week
>Beat spouse & leave her destitute
>8 failed pregnancies because not going to doctor
>Kill living sons in rage
>Ruled as suicide
>Smoke until body is fucked
>Welfare doubles
>Import south east Asian family
>Leave them destitute too
>Apply for lung transplant after 60
>Get it
Saw this with my own eyes.
>>69975839
Except in the case I brought up earlier about the break in, the man didn't murder him.
He beat him up and called the cops. The cops took him to hospital and then the family turned off life support because they didn't want to pay the cost. It's also worth noting the man who died had just recently been released from jail... for breaking and entering into homes.
It has everything to do with feeling, you feel it would be excessive force to kill a criminal who is threatening the safety of your family. I don't feel that assaulting a criminal breaking into your home late at night who could be armed, who could be a murdered, who could be planning to kidnap and rape your daughter is excessive even if it leads to his death.
Since the law does not classify what is and is not excessive it is all about feelings.
You empathize more with a known criminal attempting to break into a home than you do with a father defending his home from a criminal.
Go cry over everyone in prison you degenerate turd.
>>69976003
>Mate, I'm an anarchist,
What are you? 15?
> I live in this state and cooperate with it because it benefits me, even in between jobs I'm guarenteed wine and turkey mate
No mate, you won't be able to afford that on newstart.
>We've got a good country
Subjective
>and besides the government I'd live here just for the people and their nature.
> just for the people and their nature.
>people and their nature.
You're fucking kidding me right? If you really think Australian people are polite etc you have never even gone overseas.
We're rude, arrogant and aggressive.
>>69976203
>>69975447
here's the UK one in case you want it.
>>69976216
Actually americanbro. We have a higher incidence of assault when compared to America.
Also murders seem to be going up.
>>69971628
Australia is a modern country
soon the US will turn into Russia
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/rda1975202/s18c.html
AUSSIE RACE LAW
>>69971628
>Australia
>no free speech
>no right to protest
Yet we speak freely and continue to protest?
>America
>Free speech
>right to protest
speech must be politicly correct or you will be labled a nazi, Protest always descend into riots as they are only done by black people.
>>69976318
>Except in the case I brought up earlier about the break in, the man didn't murder him.
Yes, he did.
>it would be excessive force to kill a criminal who is threatening the safety of your family
Any reasonable person would.
If I walked up to you and called you a cunt it would be unreasonable to assault me.
If I broke into your house and grabbed some DVDs it would be unreasonable to murder me.
The law is there so you can FUCKING DEFEND YOURSELF, it's not some pathetic excuse for you to murder someone you aspie fuck.
>>69975521
You don't have lawyers with computers or notary officers in Australia?
>>69976329
What is wrong with being an anarchist?
As a grown man I value not conforming to a state, what I've said in this thread is my apathetic feelings to the laws, I can dodge them because australian police and law is generally grey and apathetic as fuck to the point police officers create crime to profit from it.
I'm not a edgy antifa fucker who thinks all emotional and shit, I've looked itno stirner, proudhon, nihilism and basically spit onto antifa because they're all practically middle class idiots looking for a cause out of boredom.
>>69975839
"I feared for my life and the lives of those under my protection, your Honour"
That's all you need to say.
>>69976597
Yeah but..
>Needing some cunt to hold the paper for you
That's not how I do it, but that's the attitude held by "people"
>>69975968
Then how come I can talk about how much I hate Jews without issue?
I have a smokeless cigarette and plenty of novelty lighters.
The only beads toys I can think of that were banned were those ones that had trace amounts of MDMA in them.
I torrent the movies I wanna watch
>>69975835
Well they never pulled me over and I never wore one and I didn't get my license till I was 20
>>69976626
>police officers create crime to profit from it
Prove it.
>>69976662
>"I feared for my life and the lives of those under my protection, your Honour"
"The man called you an offensive name, that doesn't give you the right to take his life"
That's all you need to say.
>>69976069
if by rabbits you mean 6'5 buff velocaraptor rabbits then yeah
>>69971628
Yo-Yo Waterballs are banned in several Murican states too fag
>>69971799
Damn, nice dubs
>>69976120
People like you are why this country is fucked, and why it will continue to get worse. Nobody fucking cares about anything here. The government has taken our civil liberties and CONTINUES to do so, and every lazy cunt in this place just shrugs their shoulders.
>>69971628
>novelty lighters banned
you mean, just as they are in several states of the USA?
>>69976581
>Yes, he did.
Prove his intention was to murder him, you can't prove this.
Any person can use reasonable force against an offender, but what is reasonable force against a career criminal you catch in your daughters bedroom?
>Any reasonable person would.
Any reasonable person would argue you would use REASONABLE FORCE as it states under 462a of the crimes act to prevent an offence being committed against you or your family.
Not the dude you quoted.
>>69976723
>Anecdote
Retard.
>no right to free speech, hate speech laws out the ass and you can easily get arrested for it
No, you can't.
>downright draconian gun laws
Can own any gun with the associated licence.
>need a license for fucking air rifles
It's a gun.
>airsoft is banned
Again, get the right licence and you can compete. It stops kids from shooting their eyes out.
>LASER pointers are banned
Not if you need it for your job. Stops kids from blinding others.
>fucking YO YO WATERBALLS are banned
Who cares if they are.
>novelty toy-like lighters are banned
Because children may think it's a toy and injure themselves or others.
>smokeless tobacco is banned
Who cares.
>fire footbags are banned
What?
>toys containing beads are banned
Because children have died from ingestion or inhalation.
>need a helmet to ride a fucking bicycle
It isn't the law, but it is safer to do so, especially on the road.
>plain packaging on cigarettes
It's to stop brand association with children.
>absurdly high taxation on alcohol and cigarettes, most cuckfailians have to drink shitty goonbags because it's all they can afford
Not me. I'm not an alcoholic fuck.
>many violent games and movies banned
Not since we got the R rating a few years ago.
>video games are expensive as shit
$60 AUS for a new game isn't that expensive.
>no self defense allowed
Yes, it is.
Laws differ state to state, but your ignorance shows you know nothing about Australia.
>>69976665
That is the legal requirement, its just how wills work, dipshit, sorry you fell for that retarded joke image.
http://www.legalaid.tas.gov.au/factsheets/wills/
>>69976727
"I repeat, I feared for my life and the lives of those under my protection, your Honour"
>>69976668
>I have a smokeless cigarette
>>69976581
>Any reasonable person would
You're the authority on reasonable people are you?
Fuck off.
>If I walked up to you and called you a cunt it would be unreasonable to assault me.
Most reasonable people would disagree. You deserve a punch in the head mate.
>If I broke into your house and grabbed some DVDs it would be unreasonable to murder me.
What kind of derelict cunt owns DVDs? And better yet why on earth would you steal them? I can't imagine you would get any money for them.
You're a twat. The abo was climbing into his daughters room.
What would you do, just ask him to use a condom?
Fucking cuck.
It's people like you that are ruining this country. You just want more and more nanny state bullshit where the people aren't allowed to do anything and they have to rely on the government for everything.
>>69976851
So random checks on your property by police is ok by you?
Also, could you show an example of anyone ever getting a license for airsoft in australia?
>>69976727
It is difficult to find it specifically, but I'm sure in 2007 there was a report on sunshine coast offers creating fake raids with fake amounts for payroll.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/links-between-police-drugs-and-corruption-on-the-gold-coast-20130930-2uors.html
This may help.
>>69976953
I don't get checked without consent.
You tell them you've done nothing wrong, and if they want to check you then they need a good reason.
Also, you can get a licence for air soft, but why would you?
>>69976517
LOVE NULLA
FUCK ALLAH
>>69976581
Faggot. Are you the transit authority cuck that was arguing that you shouldnt stop a nigger from raping your daughter because he has already penetrated her the other week? Because you're that absurd regardless
>>69976626
lol anarchist who supports the fact that we have no rights to free speech, some of the tightest gun laws on the planet, excessive tax on cigarettes and alcohol.
You are the worst anarchist I've ever hear of.
>>69976818
>Prove his intention was to murder him, you can't prove this.
>"I only beat him till his face was an unrecognisable mess, your honour, I didn't really try to kill him :^)"
Good luck with that defence, m8.
>Any reasonable person would argue you would use REASONABLE FORCE as it states under 462a of the crimes act to prevent an offence being committed against you or your family.
No shit. What's your point?
What we're arguing is what is 'reasonable'
>>69976870
>"I repeat, I feared for my life and the lives of those under my protection, your Honour"
Goes to the jury.
"He literally murdered a guy for calling him a cunt. Looks guilt to me, desu senpai"
>>69976917
>You're the authority on reasonable people are you?
I'm not an aspie trying to find a way to murder people.
So in that regard I'm more reasonable than you, yes.
>Most reasonable people would disagree.
No, that's textbook assault.
>What kind of derelict cunt owns DVDs? And better yet why on earth would you steal them? I can't imagine you would get any money for them.
Good job ignoring the question.
>Again, get the right licence and you can compete. It stops kids from shooting their eyes out.
Airsoft is outright banned in this country, however the ADF have been looking to implement airsoft for training exercises.
>>69977035
>Also, you can get a licence for air soft, but why would you?
You can't. While the license exists you will never pass the "Genuine reason" bullshit.
And having fun isn't a reason.
>>69976668
Probably because you haven't been caught yet.
>>69976781
>>69976805
>states
Yet your bans are federal. Jew York and Califailia don't represent all of america.
>>69976851
>i-it's a gun
>muh chilluns
>muh poor attempts at rationalizing the dumb nanny laws
>w-who cares
>more m-muh children
Lmao @ your nanny state
>It isn't the law, but it is safer to do so, especially on the road
But it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmets_in_Australia
Face it. You live in an authortarian nanny cuckhole where your government treats you like a retarded autistic child.
>>69973134
>what are basic rights as consumers
>>69976953
>mfw koreans have to store their hunting rifles at the police station and drop by to pick them up for an expedition
>>69976767
No he's talking about actual rabbits. They were brought over from England and they destroyed the food chain. You guys even designed a virus to kill them all.
>>69977071
You're putting words into my mouth, I don't support it, I just don't give a shit about it as doesn't impact me right now, I know it's a problem but it's like marijuana or restricts on certain shit, it only really effects the people who care.
Let me put up something for example, under L's I can drive vehicles with people with actual drivers lisences would get fined for, so I could literally ride around in a car which wouldn't pass registration as a result of this, australian laws are grey as FUCK.
>>69977179
>What is piriting
>>69977222
We've got states with difering laws mate, just like you.
>>69977035
to have a gun you need to consent to random police spot checks on your property to ensure that the gun and ammunition is locked separately and adequately. so you have to let cops into your house and show them around when they want it, if you want to keep your license.
>Also, you can get a licence for air soft, but why would you?
Show me evidence of someone, anyone, getting a license for airsoft here
>why would you
not your concern faggot, they are toys.
>>69977091
>>"I only beat him till his face was an unrecognisable mess, your honour, I didn't really try to kill him :^)"
Right, now you've moved the goal posts, I stated reasonable force against an offender in your home. What is reasonable force? How large is the offender compared to myself? Is he armed with a knife or a firearm? Am I outnumbered? All of this is taken into account.
The fact remains is that the dude who unfortunately died was a career criminal, and was caught in the act in his daughters bedroom. What would you do?
>>69977219
gooks are chinks, more news at 9/11
>>69976851
Yes, you can.
No, you can't. Many guns are unavailable.
No, it's not.
People should supervise their kids when playing with fucking airsoft.
People should supervise their kids when playing with fucking lasers.
>Who cares
People shouldn't let their kids play with fucking firestarters
>Who cares
>What
People should supervise their kids when playing with fucking piles of beads
No arguments for helmets desu. I sure as fuck don't wanna clean up dead kid.
People shouldn't be letting their fucking kids think smoking is cool
Lol @ this one, people drink and smoke so much the gov't raises the price. Nothing changes just the people have less money.
A few have been banned since then.
>$60 for a new game
They're $90+ at minimum unless it's dlc/expac
No, it's not.
>>69976251
what a champ. australia needs more of these battlers.
>>69977222
>Laser pointer
wat
>>69977228
>Let me put up something for example, under L's I can drive vehicles with people with actual drivers lisences would get fined for, so I could literally ride around in a car which wouldn't pass registration as a result of this, australian laws are grey as FUCK.
This makes zero sense to me, did you have a stroke mid post? You can't drive unregistered cars on your L's
>>69977222
This is outdated, pepper spray has had it's classification downgraded in response to muslim immigration.
>>69977061
No and no.
>>69977299
>Right, now you've moved the goal posts, I stated reasonable force against an offender in your home
Injuries leading to someones death does not constitute 'reasonable force'
>The fact remains is that the dude who unfortunately died was a career criminal, and was caught in the act in his daughters bedroom.
Except literally none of that was in the article.
A man allegedly broke into someones house and died as a result of the injuries sustained by the bloke pleading 'self defence'
>>69977572
That's what I'm thinking. P platers can't supervise learners and there are no restrictions on full license holders.
>>69977091
>people who want the right to self defences as just "trying to find a way to murder people"
That is so retarded I don't think you actually believe that.
>Good job ignoring the question.
You never asked a question.
As someone is climbing through your window at 2am you don't know if their intention was to 'borrow a dvd' as you seem to imply all break in cases are about, rape your mother to death with a hammer or redecorate your living room with christmas decorations. But since it's a criminal breaking into your home uninvited I would say there is a good chance he's not there for a tea party, probably best to assume that the criminal might harm you...
Since you say we aren't allowed to hit this man who is could be about to kidnap and molest your daughter, what is your course of action?
A man is climbing in the window, you don't have much time, it's dark, you're half asleep...
What are you going to do?
Go on, you have all the answers. Remember, no hitting that's mean and might make him feel bad..
>>69977577
thank goodness
>>69977577
Pepperspray is legal to obtain in WA and probably a few other states as well.
We can also own Repilca guns interestingly enough. Not in VIC tho.
You Americucks sure are butthurt.
>>69971628
Read it here.
>Must be true.
>>69977634
Why does it have to be in an article for you to believe it? Do you honestly believe the Aussie media would say he was a career criminal?
Fuck no, it's "Your rights bad 24/7"
There was a newspiece a couple weeks ago about a Gold Coast woman who shot at her son-in-law.
Cunt had molested her grandkid and bashed his spouse.
When she heard she went to to kill him, even said in court she was going to kill him when she got out. She still got out.
What did the report say? "Weak justice system and gun violence" Literally nothing about the bad guy.
>>69977634
what if said injuries are the result of me hitting him in the head / neck once or twice while he is breaking into my house, climbing through a window lets say? are you going to blame me for protecting my family and myself, considering I do not know if this man has fatal intentions - I dont know if he is carrying a weapon , a gun or a knife, I dont know if he wants to kill me and rape my family... the time that I wait to see if he does have a weapon might be the difference that I needed to stop someone in my family from being hurt. I am not going to take chances when a potential outcome is a loved one getting killed. That faggot gave up his right to life as soon as he broke into another mans home. You are such a faggot statist loving cuck that you think we should just let it happen then use police and court systems to find 'justice'. You want justice? try and break into my house. You will get an axe to your face.
>>69977634
>Injuries leading to someones death does not constitute 'reasonable force'
Yes, it does actually.
If I hit someone in a genuine act of self defence where there is a real and impending threat on my life, and the offender happens to die of his injuries, then that falls well within my legal right.
Source: Am armed guard.
Also, AMA.
>>69977891
Handle cash?
What's the best way to have it over you on the job?
>>69977891
what do you guard? people? bank vaults?
>>69971628
>>downright draconian gun laws
Kill yourself faggot.
The gun laws here are fine. Just because you can't carry a fully automatic rifle to the supermarket doesn't make it draconian.
Just remember, only one country has a gun culture like America.
The rest of the first world isn't like that.
t. Registered and licensed gun owner
>>69977572
No, mabye I possibly didn't word it accurate but L's can driver cars which P's and Full license holders can't, it is a legitimate thing, just look at restrictions.
What do you think about Brisbane, Adelaide or Canberra? I am thinking of moving to Australia(I have STEM degree) but Sydney or Melbourne seem to SJW to me
>>69977994
what state? do you have to have police spot checks on your property? Do you like watching other men fuck your wife?
>>69977817
>aussie calling americans cucks
loving every laugh
>>69978001
Anything an L driver can drive, a full license can too.
Just not P's.
The only reason L can drive super and turbocharged engines is because they have adult supervision. P's don't.
>>69978107
NIGGER IN THE WHITEHOUSE
>>69977980
No, but I am qualified for CIT (Cash in transit).
Honestly? Get the jump on me, just don't fucking kill us, we're not paid enough.
>>69977986
Little bit of everything.
>>69977704
>Since you say we aren't allowed to hit this man
I never said that.
Link me the post where I make this statement.
>>69977830
What's your point?
>>69977874
Only read the first sentence.
As I have said before, it's REASONABLE force.
A guy breaking into your house and attacking you would mean you defend yourself.
You continue to defend yourself until he stops attacking you.
You don't stomp on his head till he fucking dies. This is a really simple distinction.
>>69977891
I'd agree with what you said.
But would you agree that continuing to attack the person when they no longer present a threat to you would constitute assault and if the person dies as a result of those injuries you could be charged with at least manslaughter?
>>69978149
LITERAL NANNY STATE
>>69976251
>mfw I take home 2K out of a 3K paycheck
>mfw I read this
>mfw no matter who wins next election, income tax will be increased
>>69978001
That makes sense but laws differ from state to state.
>WA masterrace
>V8 on red P's
>>69978063
Sydney is conservative actually, because of it's migrant population you'll find a lot of conservative indians, chinese or arabic people which results in social conservative attitudes, at least in their areas.
Most of our cities vote liberal and not labour ironically.
>>69978148
I won't doubt you, you're more then possibly right but I'm very sure of what I said, I'm not a bullshiter and I'm not ignorant.
>>69978001
But that's wrong. Full license holders can drive anything they want. And learners are not restricted because they have a full license holder to instruct them.
It's not a grey area, P platers are restricted because they're still novice drivers.
>>69977994
Want to know how I know you're retarded
aussies are fucking soft cunts
my cousin is living in Sydney and he btfo white aussies all the time.
he told me they have glass jaws.
We are Micronesian, btw.
>>69978225
I've already had a reply like this mate.
>>69978187
NIGGER APOCALYPSE
>>69978069
Victoria
My father has been a registered owner for over 30 years, and police have never done a single check.
Those checks are only ever done on people they suspect of further crime.
Cops can't be fucked checking if your firearm is in the cabinet, they just use that law if you're a bikie so they can get on your property without a warrant and take that sawn off away from you
>>69978063
>Canberra
>Adelaide
Both are absolute trash
>Perth
Not too bad
>Brisbane
Is now on the same level as the big two.
>>69977756
It's only legal in WA.
This is also another huge problem with our self defense laws.. pepper spray in WA being the exception.. all non lethal means of self defense are illegal.
A single punch could kill someone, a whack with a cricket bat could do the same, stabbing someone, same thing. If you punch, hit someone with an object or stab someone you will be arrested and have to prove you didn't intend to kill them. You have the right to self defense without 'excessive force' but there is no device you are allowed to own that would prove you had no intention to use lethal force.
If we were allowed to own non lethal weapons, like chemical sprays and electric shock devices you could easily prove you had no intention to use excessive force and were defending yourself.
But the police state want the monopoly on those devices because they don't actually want you to have the ability to defend yourself.
>>69978182
>But would you agree that continuing to attack the person when they no longer present a threat to you would constitute assault and if the person dies as a result of those injuries you could be charged with at least manslaughter?
Oh, absolutely.
Once the threat on your life, or the life of an innocent ceases to exist, you stop immediately, otherwise it borders excessive force. Remember, everything falls under reasonable force, there is no threat to my life if the offender cannot protect himself.
>>69978182
I see him. I dont know if he is going to kill or rape my family / myself, or if he is armed. If I wait, then I might give him the opportunity to gain control. I hit him in the head with a bat, he goes down. starts to come back up, i hit him again. later dies in hospital. thats not reasonable?
i like australia
fuck england tho
>>69978271
I am the one man nigger apocalypse.
>>69978254
Go on, I look forward to it.
>>69978265
>Poly/Micronesian
Probably because the only whites they hang around are slink-armed bogans and derros, I actually like the fact they knock the shit out of slinky white trash.
>>69978196
imagine working for 4 months straight and no pay
oh wait you are
>>69978001
>>69978204
wait so you need a special license to drive a v8 or a car with a blower?
>>69978358
>Just because you can't carry a fully automatic rifle to the supermarket
if you weren't a limp-dicked retard you'd know you couldn't do that here either
>>69978305
>Once the threat on your life, or the life of an innocent ceases to exist, you stop immediately, otherwise it borders excessive force.
This is literally all I've said but fucking aspies don't seem to understand it.
>>69978315
>I hit him in the head with a bat, he goes down. starts to come back up, i hit him again. later dies in hospital. thats not reasonable?
No.
Hitting him once MAYBE would be reasonable but the bat would be considered a deadly weapon.
Hitting him twice would definitely be excessive.
>>69978182
You think it's right for a man to go to jail if he defends his home and the person breaking in dies.
According to australian law one punch can be lethal so obviously you wouldn't punch him because that could kill him so that would be excessive force.
So what do you do?
Tell me what you would do if someone was breaking into your house late at night?
Just answer the question.
Tell me how you would stop the criminal, ensure your own safety and the safety of your family as well as ensuring the criminal is safe?
Go on. Answer.
>>69971628
Its a nanny state, this is why most aussies take out their frustration by shitposting here. I feel sad for them.
>>69972032
Just because US has problems doesn't mean your or even my mine don't exit mate. We live all live is this bloody imperfect world.
>>69978418
No anon, that other guy is misinformed.
Lightsabers are banned?
Whut?
My cousin had tons of them that were bought from toy stores.
>>69978477
>Hitting him twice would definitely be excessive.
>you're only allowed to try once to incapacitate an intruder in your own home
good lord are you listening to yourself
>>69978505
don't exist* my bad
>>69972409
We're allowed to own guns senpai
>>69978418
In most states aside from WA there are power to weight restrictions for provisional drivers (first 2 or 4 years of having your license), these restrictions are pretty full on and rule out most performance orientated vehicles.
I dont think states have the set "no V8 no turbo" rule anymore but im sure others can chime in.
Blowers (if not factory fitted) are a whole 'nother world of hurt, this country is not friendly to car enthusiasts in the slightest.
>>69978477
You're a faggot. So I am supposed to hit him and let him get back up, enraged, and potentially armed?
You're a soft cock cunt and you are the type of person that actually creates a divide between government and people, because you are so deluded that you think police are the answer to everything. fucking absolute wanker.
It's not all bad:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/31270879/new-zealander-dies-in-australian-detention-centre-following-scuffle/?cmp=fb
>>69978553
Wasn't saying directly that you can't, you're actually more limited then us though.
>>69978512
I'm not, I wasn't implying full lisences can't drive V8s. I'm acting off memory.
>>69978418
No, we're just discussing driving cars before you get your full drivers license.
Here when you're 16 you get your L(earners), then at 18 you move to P(robationary).
Then at 21 you go to full license.
Basically when you are on your P's, there are restrictions over how powerful your car can be and what customisations it can have to stop hoon drivers.
>>69978423
>implying cunts in open carry states don't take their AR to Starbucks to see if they get kicked out or not then bitch about it later on Facebook
Wish the cucks would revolt already. Australia USED TO BE boss.
>>69978621
ARs aren't full auto you fucking shithead
>>69978570
It's just the law mate. He's right. The law is the problem.
>>69977994
>only one country has a gun culture like America
>i have to admit that what o/p said is true....Australia has become a leftist shithole...but on the bright side there are some right wing groups emerging in response to the over intake of muslim migrants ......the next France in progress.
>>69978479
>You think it's right for a man to go to jail if he defends his home and the person breaking in dies.
I've never said that.
Link me the post where I make this statement.
>>69978532
>you're only allowed to try once to incapacitate an intruder in your own home
The man went down after the first hit.
I highly doubt he's going to jump up and start raping everyone he sees.
But if he does, you defend yourself.
I don't see how this is so hard to understand.
>>69978570
When you think of an actual argument, feel free to enter the discussion again.
>>69978553
>>69978553
But you're like us in that you can't own one for the purposes of self defence in your own home, though.
Which to me is retarded, it's not like every human on the planet doesn't have the right to protect himself and his family.
>>69978652
Would a judge or jury really be so irrational?
>>69975839
Murder is premeditated.
>>69978696
This is where our relatively isolated location pays off.
We follow, while seeing less of the impacts. God knows we need Trump in the US.
arguing with an australian is like arguing with a downie
>>69978652
This is what I said from the start. But that guy doesn't agree that their is a problem with the law.
He agrees with the law 100%.
We are arguing that australians SHOULD have the right to defend themselves not that they DO.
The problem is the vague use of the term "excessive force" which could be interpreted differently by different judges.
A second problem is we have no rights to nonlethal weapons to defend ourselves.
A third problem is there is no legal classification of what is and is not excessive force.
>>69972592
Also Bolt stated falsehoods in the article.
Fucking leaf, next time try reading the article AND STOP TRYING TO BE US.
Pathetic.
>>69978709
I am supposed to limit myself to one hit, because somehow I am more concerned for his life over my families?
>>69978677
I was waiting for someone to post this
Anyone who thinks America has a gun culture similar to Switzerland is retarted.
High gun ownership is very different to respect for firearms. I don't know why it's different. It could be perhaps because it's seen as a right to own one. But I don't know.
In Switzerland people don't push for open carry, they don't walk into their equivalent of Walmart with a gun strapped to their back and phone in hand recording to see if the staff respects their rights.
>>69978646
I know, I just used a random gun as an example. My point isn't over whether you can unload 65 bullets into a cunt per minute or if you can get 250 into him per minute. It's about the way that people use and interact with firearms there.
>>69978709
leaving now. you're a faggot. have irl duties.
>not understanding reverse legal systems
America STFU, you don't have rights until they're written down, we have infinite rights limited only by what's written down.
>>69971865
not in my city, it's too expensive
>>69978881
Tell the Bull I said "Hi"
It's amazing how the Australian people will outright object to being called a Nanny State. It's like a woman in abusive relationship who gets called out on it and tries to rationalize the abuse.
Look, Aussie cunts. the fact that your government HAS to have a foothold on literally EVERYTHING that flows through your economy, with very little thought for the consumer's right as a working man, as a video game/movie enthusiast, as a citizen, legit has to abide by the moral compass that is your government.
>freedom of speech exists
No it doesn't you fucking Abo cock sucking faggot. Aussie has some serious hate speech laws, both civil and criminal throughout the country/state/whatever you are. You can be straight detained and questioned for saying nigger on Facebook.
Video games and various other forms of media have to go before a board of government officials in order for it to be allowed on store shelves. This is part of the 'rating' process. If it is refused classification then distributors are legally forbidden from carrying or even selling the game/movie within their outlets. Online services, such as Steam and Netflix, get lots of pressure from the government to abide by their rules when serving consumers located within their jurisdiction.
This is censorship. State censorship. That is how I know your country is not free.
You know it's true.
>>69978858
>I am supposed to limit myself to one hit
You're supposed to limit yourself to reasonable force.
>>69978715
oops. meant to post this.
>>69972032
White Americans live longer, minorities kick the numbers down considerably
>>69978709
That's been your stance throughout the entire thread.
But stop deflecting and just answer the question.
>It's 2am
>a man is climbing through your daughters bedroom window
>it's dark
>you're half asleep
>you don't know this man he is a total stranger
>he could be armed with any type of weapon
>you have no idea what his intention is
What do you do to stop him, ensure the safety of yourself, your family and ensure that he doesn't die?
>>69978918
Actually the Chinese have control of our economy, they literally own our ports.
>>69979011
bend over and present my succulent boipussy in the hopes he leaves my daughter alone, of course
>>69979011
I'm not the lad you're talking to, nor do I care to get involved with that debate.
But I've always loved when people put this scenario in.
I mean fuck, you'd imagine there would be a lot running through your head and there are so many factors.
Is the guy black, is he white, is he Asian, is he tall, fat, skinny, what is he wearing, has he said anything.
I feel like there would need to be a lot to assess before pulling the trigger on a nigger.
>inb4 no time to assess. Shoot or don't shoot.
>>69979011
>That's been your stance throughout the entire thread.
No, it hasn't.
Link me the multiple posts wherein a reasonable person would come to that conclusion.
This is going to take a while since you seem to think there's a single answer to solve every single scenario.
Where am I in relation to the alleged intruder and my hypothetical daughter?
>>69975538
good response, thanks
>>69977874
>You will get an axe to your face.
>wanting to go to jail
Let me redpill you on the real Australia:
>No black people
>Immigrants assimilate or segregate
>Kids start drinking at 13-14 and fucking at 16, low teenage pregnancy because perfected the pull out method
>Zero crime, low drug abuse, low homelessness nationwide
>Free education, free medicare, hospital and doctor visits, ambulance membership is $75 a year and provides you nationwide emergency airlift with no other cost.
>Average income 60k/year, household income 110k
>People mind their own fucking business, G'day mate, G'day, fuck off then, righto.
>No patience for idiots or fools, if you're an idiot you get told straight up, shut up, sit down, do your job.
If you're white you go from starting salary 50k to owning your own business and making 250k or being promoted and earning 120k over 2 decades.
This country is heaven on Earth, that's why we don't let fuckwits ruin it. You try to bring in peanuts flying in and they will fine you hundreds of dollars at the airport, why? Because fuck off, and take your little nuts with you, that's why.
>>69975538
This guy has his head screwed on right
>>69978742
Yes they would.
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/how-citizens-arrest-led-to-murder-charge/news-story/d021021e80e924c32ab200c56ccf11b6
This is exactly a case of that.
The reason the legal system is going after this man so hard, refusing him bail and everything is because the victim was an aboriginal and his aboriginal family are hanging around the police station and the media demanding 'justice' and crying.
The law would be and absolutely is that irrational.
>>69979042
When it comes to things like games and movies, they're usually printed and sent out to the stores/etc like..wherever it's located. It's usually the physical medium of storage like the disc or cartridge that gets imported.
>>69978918
mate I agree
>>69971628
crtl+f
>be amarican
>get shot
0 of o results.
Oh ffs!
>>69979544
You're just jealous we can't have funs
>>69979150
If you lived alone and all you had to defend was some dvds I could see where it could be an option to hesitate or even bargain the criminal.
But if you are a parent and you fear the safety of your child you would absolutely attack the criminal to protect your child.
That's why this case is bullshit.
Murder laws state that the death of the victim was intentional.
The motivation behind this obviously wasn't murder the criminal the motivation was to defend his family and his home.
That means it's not murder and it's manslaughter at best.
But that doesn't change the fact that the man was charged with murder and refused bail.
>>69979163
>>69975072
>man breaks into your house
>murder him
Now why don't you just answer the question?
>>69979242
>No blacks
U wot m8? Logan city/Beenleigh
>Immigrants assimilate
Lakemba as surrounds.
>Low teen pregnacy
Citation needed.
>Zero crime, low drug abuse
Okay, you're trolling.
>Free education
If you could call it that. Aussie public education is retard tier.
>people mind their own business
Nanny state.
>No patience for idiots or fools
Kind of nullifies the previous point, doesn't it?
>If you're white
I thought we had no blacks
>Heaven on Earth
It's a literal hellfire landscape.
