https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shMdHHYpLpY
/POL/ ON SUICIDE WATCH
>mfw /pol/ is too under-read to respond
>>69966034
Maybe if you didn't use a painful to listen to robot voice people wouldn't close the video 60 seconds in.
>>69966034
It may have been started by crazy people but to consider that "dubunking it" is fallacious look up "genetic fallacy".
And also to say that it doesn't exist is also ridiculous, it's like saying "atheism doesn't exist because crazy people came up with that concept"
It's a concept, it has a definition, and people fit into that definition.
But wouldn't a conspiracy do it's best to defame anyone who calls out their bullshit?
>>69966034
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_critical_theory
Here is the "conspiracy theory" outlined by what the left calls it - critical theory. The current driving force in social studies and the humanities.
It is the origin of such concepts as the "social construct", privilege, gender (rather than sex) and so on. In every case it is attacking from all angles, with a view to change to be more aligned with their view (an ostensibly Marxist view), Western society.
It's hard to call something a conspiracy theory when the results are celebrated and all around us.
>it's a conspiracy to point out the truth
Cultural Marxism is New Left.
Ever since the New Left pieces of shit have taken over the old Labor left unions have died, income inequality has skyrocketed, and now all the left gives a shit about is being anti white anti Christian anti male anti "cis" and anti straight.
>>69967571
I didn't make the video.
>>69969050
http://youtu.be/dYu6qhd88_M
>>69967951
It doesn't exist, and the Frankfurt School had nothing to do with it. Certainly, what amounts to "activism" on college campuses is superficial and authoritarian, but the wave of political correctness has far more to do with the outcome of neoliberal capitalism needing to adjust to multiculturalism than a few arcane works by a German atonal music guru and a Jewish mystic-turned-Marxist.
>>69968771
Critical Theory has nothing to do with the state of modern institutions and media. The Frankfurt School hasn't been relevant in academia for over 35 years, and most of what is taught in the humanities today is POSTMODERNISM which is highly anti-Marxist.
>>69969085
>Thorium's video
No.
That 7-minute atrocity is full of inaccuracies. Adorno had very little to do with The Authoritarian Personality, for example, and the vast majority of the book's 900 pages were penned by Levinson, an American psychologist who had nothing to do with the Frankfurt School.
Also, Marcuse hated political art. In no way was he promoting policies that would have censored the words of reactionaries over the words of leftists.
Not to mention, both of those works are probably the worst representation of what the Franks were really about.
>>69969085
Much better than OPs shit video.
>>69969342
>Critical Theory has nothing to do with the state of modern institutions and media.
So why then does critical theory align perfectly with their current state, that is one promoting gender equality (women as well as gays etc), anti-nationalism/post-colonialism (racism, no such thing as an illegal immigrant, multiculturalism), post modernism (relativism moral and otherwise, attacking the power bas of the church through anti-theism while at the same time promoting and defending Islam because oppression) and so on.
These are all things that they undeniably do consistently and dogmatically.
>>69969342
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality
This is the mechanism by which the various wings of cultural Marxists collaborate.
>>69969905
>So why then does critical theory align perfectly with their current state,
First off, you'll have to explain what you're denoting as "critical theory" here. Are you talking about Adorno's works on pop culture, or Fromm's Marxist humanist critiques of consumerism, or what?
>that is one promoting gender equality (women as well as gays etc), anti-nationalism/post-colonialism (racism, no such thing as an illegal immigrant, multiculturalism)
Feminism pre-dates Critical Theory by a century, perhaps even longer. Anti-nationalism or anti-racism wasn't really something the Franks addressed, aside from the chapter on antisemitism in Dialectic of Enlightenment (which wasn't even published in English until 1972).
>post modernism
Which is an entirely different intellectual tradition than Frankfurt, and was always at odds with it.
Interestingly enough, Postmodernism comes out of the philosophy of Heidegger, a nefarious Nazi whose works Adorno critiqued (read Negative Dialectics, you'd love it).
>attacking the power bas of the church through anti-theism while at the same time promoting and defending Islam because oppression
Again, this is the result of neoliberal capitalism. Neoliberalism causes intense migration patterns, which in turn creates the need for PC in order to keep school and workplace tensions down. It has absolutely nothing to do with Critical Theory.
>>69970019
Intersectionality is a distinctly American postmodernist thing.
fuck off, cuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory
>>69970287
I know full well what Critical Theory is.
Hint: it's not what you think.
>>69970325
wait a minute
you're that same cuck who got blown out by that Argentinian last time when you made this thread. You kept claiming that the Frankfurt skill was "conservative"
do you ever give up?
>>69970636
They were conservative. All of them. Even Marcuse, who favored the literature of reactionaries over the artwork of the Left.
>>69970240
Having taken an entire university course on Critical Theory and the Frankfurt School, I can tell you that this guy knows what he's talking about and the guy he's arguing with is clearly in over his head.
>>69970240
This, much of /pol/ is too entrenched in it's orthodoxies to really stand up to reality. """Cultural Marxism""" is simply another sneaky boogey man to blame for all the things people disagree with about modernity. The conspiracy is always real. Such is life.
>>69971134
I doubt anyone on this board who complains about "cultural Marxism" has even bothered to read the Franks. If they did, they'd see why linking their work to PC, "intersectionality", and the superficial route the humanities has taken since the mid-1980s is absurd.
>>69970754
>>69971134
kek
you people are retarded
>>69971434
Your enemy is modernity, same as the Franks'.
>>69971237
Are you implying a lot of people speak out of their asses anonymously on things that sound almost right (even if they're absolutely wrong), expecting to talk to people who do largely the same?
How mean of you, lel.
>>69967571
Reading down after you posted this it looks like he got a couple of his faggot friends to blow him on here. Its kind of funny.
>>69971068
>Having taken an entire university course
Yeah because when I think "accuracy" I think "liberal arts university major"
>>69971494
>Your enemy is modernity
t. unabomber
>>69970240
>First off, you'll have to explain what you're denoting as "critical theory" here. Are you talking about Adorno's works on pop culture, or Fromm's Marxist humanist critiques of consumerism, or what?
I'm talking about critical theory/cultural marxism as it exists today. History is important to know where things came from, but things have moved on since then.
>Feminism pre-dates Critical Theory by a century, perhaps even longer. Anti-nationalism or anti-racism wasn't really something the Franks addressed, aside from the chapter on antisemitism in Dialectic of Enlightenment (which wasn't even published in English until 1972).
Feminism has gone through various "waves" - It's not until the 60s that they went Marxist (at which point, oh did they... Along with everything else. Absolutely nothing to do with the KGB I'm sure.) As for post-colonialism, again you are trying to remove the Frankfurt school from history and take it as standing alone. They themselves may not have addressed it much, but those they influenced certainly did using the techniques and concepts they developed to further their goals. The Frankfurt school probably never even considered the possibility of transgender for example, but that is certainly a result of gender theory, a subset of critical theory, developed by them.
>Which is an entirely different intellectual tradition than Frankfurt, and was always at odds with it.
> you are trying to remove the Frankfurt school from history and take it as standing alone.
Surprisingly, time has moved on since the 20s.
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>>69971434
Lel, stay fuckwitted.
>>69971530
>>69971584
your entire emergent is "That Authoritarian Personality Book totally doesn't real"
and yet you keep posting.
Muh horseshoe theory.
>>69971561
>I'm talking about critical theory/cultural marxism as it exists today.
Okay, so you're talking about people like Noel Ignatiev, Judith Butler, bell hooks, all the cookie-cutter postcolonial theorists, and such, no?
Well here's the thing: their methodology is entirely different from the Frankfurt School, and blaming the Franks for people like bell hooks would be akin to blaming Nirvana for Nickelback.
>Feminism has gone through various "waves"
No shit.
>It's not until the 60s that they went Marxist
No one denies the influence of Marxism on the Second Wave. However, the modern Third Wave that's active today is heavily anit-Marxist.
Take Queer Theory for example. It's entirely based on a fucking PARAGRAPH in Foucault's first volume of History of Sexuality. Basically, QT states that being a woman is just an idea created by societal discourse, so anyone can be a "woman". A Marxist-influenced Second Wave feminist would say (and have said) this assertion is bullshit, and women's oppression originates not from "discourse" but from their reproductive capabilities and the material conditions which created the need for men to subordinate them.
>Absolutely nothing to do with the KGB I'm sure.
Riiiiight.
>As for post-colonialism, again you are trying to remove the Frankfurt school from history and take it as standing alone. They themselves may not have addressed it much, but those they influenced certainly did using the techniques and concepts they developed to further their goals.
Postcolonial Theory also has way more to do with the works of Nietzsche and Heidegger through Foucault than it does Marx. Please, ask a philosophy professor to explain this to you.
>>69971723
The Authoritarian Personality absolutely existed and was influential when it was first published. However, Adorno had very little to do with that book, and actually admitted to having been completely alien to American techniques of sociology.
>>69970240
>Again, this is the result of neoliberal capitalism. Neoliberalism causes intense migration patterns, which in turn creates the need for PC in order to keep school and workplace tensions down. It has absolutely nothing to do with Critical Theory.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
>I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn't its main purpose – to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date.
It was done deliberately, as a matter of idology (in defiance of popular will it should be noted) in order to make resistance to their policies more difficult. Ethically it's much easier to resist someone moving into your country than it is to expel them. It is true that the modern left and right both love immigration (for different reasons), but that doesn't change where the ideas came from in the first place and who and why it is being promoted. It has been argued by many that the modern left and right are the same beast in different coloured ties, who will switch tack and change their arguments depending on who they are talking to, but they are pushing for the same thing.
>Intersectionality is a distinctly American postmodernist thing.
Hardly. You will find much the same kind of shit here too.
http://www.independent.co.uk/student/istudents/intersectional-feminism-why-class-sexuality-ethnicity-race-and-ability-must-be-taken-into-account-a6760746.html
Why does it matter what its called or where it comes from, its stupid
>>69971988
>The Authoritarian Personality absolutely existed
So you admit defeat
well that was easy
>>69971989
>It was done deliberately, as a matter of idology (in defiance of popular will it should be noted) in order to make resistance to their policies more difficult. Ethically it's much easier to resist someone moving into your country than it is to expel them.
Now you're specifically talking about politicians, not philosophers or academics. Again, this says nothing about the extent to which Critical Theory influenced their views; it's just careerist politicians being careerist politicians.
Also, whether the borders are open or not, no one is going to pack up and move overseas without a damn good reason. If the choice is being exploited in a sweatshop for 40 cents an hour in Pakistan, or loads of welfare money plus free healthcare and education and a union job in the UK, I'd be choosing the latter.
>Hardly. You will find much the same kind of shit here too.
Intersectionality, as a "thing", was created by American academics. I'm fully aware it's been exported elsewhere.
>>69972135
Read what I wrote a second time. The book was in no way a product of "the Frankfurt School".
>>69971723
Wrong anon, kek.
Keep the convo going.
>>69971911
I blame them for what they did. That being laying the groundwork for the modern humanities and the entrenched insanity therein and carrying on marxism after it should have died following WW1.
(as an aside, having a broken vowl on your kyboard is possibly th most annoying thing on th planet)
>However, the modern Third Wave that's active today is heavily anit-Marxist
>Take Queer Theory for example. It's entirely based on a fucking PARAGRAPH in Foucault's first volume of History of Sexuality. Basically, QT states that being a woman is just an idea created by societal discourse, so anyone can be a "woman". A Marxist-influenced Second Wave feminist would say (and have said) this assertion is bullshit, and women's oppression originates not from "discourse" but from their reproductive capabilities and the material conditions which created the need for men to subordinate them.
Queer theory is a subset of critical theory. Like I keep saying, time moves on - ideas change, integrate and die. Your problem with cultural marxism doesn't seem to be so much with what it is describing, more with that it's got marxism in the name. Likely because you are a marxist and want to distance yourself from the lunatics. The name is what it is to reference the origins of the ideas and the broad world-view we are dealing with - one of oppressed and oppressor, inequality, aversion to the nation state (though not necessarily the Marxist state a la Stalin) and so on. Not because they are orthodox marxists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_critical_theory#Queer_theory
>Postcolonial Theory also has way more to do with the works of Nietzsche and Heidegger through Foucault than it does Marx. Please, ask a philosophy professor to explain this to you.
See previous.
>>69973737
>Queer theory is a subset of critical theory.
Which has nothing to do with the Frankfurt School, as its methodology is entirely different.
>Like I keep saying, time moves on - ideas change, integrate and die.
Except that, again, QT, postcolonial theory, and the like do not "come out" of the Frankfurt School. They come from Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Foucault. What happened was, Anglo authors applied their analytic methodologies to this specific Nietzschean philosophy and came up with garbage.
>Your problem with cultural marxism doesn't seem to be so much with what it is describing, more with that it's got marxism in the name. Likely because you are a marxist and want to distance yourself from the lunatics. The name is what it is to reference the origins of the ideas and the broad world-view we are dealing with - one of oppressed and oppressor, inequality, aversion to the nation state (though not necessarily the Marxist state a la Stalin) and so on. Not because they are orthodox marxists.
Okay.
>See previous.
Please explain how the Frankfurt School influenced Lacan, Foucault, and Derrida, as they are the real thinkers whom you should be blaming.
>>69973737
>Likely because you are a marxist and want to distance yourself from the lunatics
I'll bet he's the faggot that made pic related.
>>69972213
>Now you're specifically talking about politicians, not philosophers or academics. Again, this says nothing about the extent to which Critical Theory influenced their views; it's just careerist politicians being careerist politicians.
Thy don't come with this shit on their own. To suggest that politicians are separate from political philosophies is highly disingenuous.
>Also, whether the borders are open or not, no one is going to pack up and move overseas without a damn good reason. If the choice is being exploited in a sweatshop for 40 cents an hour in Pakistan, or loads of welfare money plus free healthcare and education and a union job in the UK, I'd be choosing the latter.
Maybe you would, but that's irrelevant to this discussion.
>Intersectionality, as a "thing", was created by American academics. I'm fully aware it's been exported elsewhere.
That's a non-point along the lines of suggesting that Marxism is a distinctly European thing. Ideas generally don't know what a border is.
>>69974156
>To suggest that politicians are separate from political philosophies is highly disingenuous.
Okay, so can you demonstrate how the politicians in question were influenced by the Frankfurt School, postcolonial theory, etc.?
>Maybe you would, but that's irrelevant to this discussion.
Your only assertion here is that migrants will move to the West without any reason whatsoever only because the West has open borders. Baloney. I've lived in Europe and know full well most of those Algerians in France would not have packed up and moved if Algeria could give them the quality of life they currently have in Paris.
>>69966034
>>69967124
> we've only had this thread 20 times this week
Here's your (You)
Gramsian hegemony, baybay!
Erase cultural Marxism from the history books!
It's all a right wing conspiracy!
The goyim know, shut it down!
Another debunking; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MEtnuOy-_s
But yeah "Cultural Marxism" was originally just an informal term for when The Frankfurt School was transitioning from Marxist Analysis to Cultural Analysis - and the conspiracy theory that's cropped up around it borrows heavily from the Frankfurt School theorists themselves. It's basically a combo of Adorno's idea of a "Culture Industry" and Gramsci's "Cultural Hegemony" - and with some "Authoritarian Personality Complex" thrown in there.
The right wing are trying to recycle and rebrand these Frankfurt ideas as a conspiracy theory against The Frankfurt School and modern left.
>>69974689
>>69974715
>>69974756
>marxist academics have used the term non-ironically so muh conspiracy MUST BE TRUE!!!
The way the term is used by Jameson and others is not the same as it's used on /pol/. I highly doubt Jameson thinks Adorno and Benjamin are the cause of mass immigration to the West, or the shitty entertainment we now see.
>>69974844
Again, "cultural Marxism" doesn't exist. Gramsci's writings weren't even published until after WWII, making them far too late to have had much influence on Critical Theory as a project.
>cultural marxism was only a minority in britain
>the turn to identity politics away from class identity had nothing to do with the new left
>no one knows what you're talking about crazy right winger
>denial and obfuscation aren't on of the pillars of hegemonic rhetorical warfare
>we're not even leftists, we're PROGRESSIVES
Wew
>>69974100
>Which has nothing to do with the Frankfurt School, as its methodology is entirely different.
Critical theory comes from the Frankfurt school. In modern times it has morphed significantly from those humble origins but at its core they are aligned. Who came up with an idea in the first place doesn't matter if it can be used to your own ends. The ends justify the means.
>What happened was, Anglo authors applied their analytic methodologies to this specific Nietzschean philosophy and came up with garbage.
So what, they "used them wrong"?
>Please explain how the Frankfurt School influenced Lacan, Foucault, and Derrida, as they are the real thinkers whom you should be blaming.
They played their part too. If Marx and the Franks were the only actors then we would likly be dealing with just Marxism. They are however the founders of it and set the tone for what was to come.
>>69974853
Thanks m8.
>>69974881
>this shit again
Please. The only members of the Frankfurt School who were heavily Jewish were Walter Benjamin, who was always given shit by the other members for using concepts from Jewish theology and kabbalah in his work, and Erich Fromm, who was entirely atheist by then and only referenced Jewish theology in passing.
Weyrich first aired his conception of Cultural Marxism in a 1998 speech to the Civitas Institute's Conservative Leadership Conference, later noting the "strong, positive response" in his "Open Letter to Conservatives".[52][55] At Weyrich's request Lind wrote a short history of this concept for The Free Congress Foundation.[51][56][57] Lind and Weyrich further expanded on their conception of Cultural Marxism; co-writing an article for The American Ideas Institute and over the next 2 years expanding that article into a book titled "The Next Conservatism"[58][59] with Lind having already written a fictional account of a post-apocalyptic Cultural Marxist future.[51][60][61] In these works they advocate fighting Cultural Marxism with "a vibrant cultural conservatism" composed of "retroculture" fashions from the past, a return to rail systems as public transport and an agrarian culture of self-reliance modeled after the Amish.[51][58][62][63][61][64][65] Weyrich and his protégé Eric Heubeck later openly advocated for a more direct form of "taking over political structures" by the "New Traditionalist Movement" in his 2001 paper The Integration of Theory and Practice written for Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation.[66][67][68]
>>69975016
>your awareness of leftist schools of thought doesn't match my neatly pigeonholed characterization of /pol/ as a whole hive mind
>i'm not BTFO by meeting one exception to the rule
>I remain your intellectual superior in every way
>stroke my left wing special snowflake vanity dammit
Here's you're (You), enjoy your freshman studies faggot. Next time lurk moar.
And read some books not assigned in class, you bluepilled cuck.
> https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg
>>69974320
>Okay, so can you demonstrate how the politicians in question were influenced by the Frankfurt School, postcolonial theory, etc.?
They are PPE graduates. Their educations revolve around it. Much like the state of universities generally today, quadruple that if you are actually studying politics.
>Your only assertion here is that migrants will move to the West without any reason whatsoever only because the West has open borders. Baloney. I've lived in Europe and know full well most of those Algerians in France would not have packed up and moved if Algeria could give them the quality of life they currently have in Paris.
I'm not answering this because you are attempting to switch the topic. If you want to discuss that, make another thread.
It's entirely possibly to criticize the left without relying on some bizarre conservative-manufactured conspiracy theory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33xMRpMQGrA
>>69974151
gtfo pseudo-intellectual. Stop trying to split the middle and come up with an actual stance
>>69975018
Identity politics is a combination of postmodernism and neoliberalism. But yes, it's sad how the Left has become nothing but a haven for IDpol and narcissism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLPC0qfDyg
>>69975075
>Critical theory comes from the Frankfurt school. In modern times it has morphed significantly from those humble origins but at its core they are aligned. Who came up with an idea in the first place doesn't matter if it can be used to your own ends. The ends justify the means.
Again, postmodernism has nothing to do with Frankfurt. It developed in an entirely different context, in France and using the methodology of Nietzsche and Heidegger.
>So what, they "used them wrong"?
More like, twisted their ideas. Foucault, for example, saw power as a verb rather than a noun; I doubt very much he'd agree with the sociologists who exploit his works when they say things like: "you can't be racist against white people," because, for Foucault, there are no clear-cut "oppressors" and "oppressed". Everyone, in his view, is capable of being either, or both.
>They played their part too. If Marx and the Franks were the only actors then we would likly be dealing with just Marxism. They are however the founders of it and set the tone for what was to come.
Did I mention Queer Theory and Postcolonial Theory are heavily anti-Marxist?
>>69975292
Identity politics is a plague on the modern left. It's basically turning those Maoist ideas of "national liberation comes first" into a superficial sense of entitlement which manifests itself quite nicely in late capitalism where everything becomes a commodity, or something done because it's "trendy". Add Christian morality into that and you've got yourself a huge mess.
>>69975124
>Please. The only members of the Frankfurt School who were heavily Jewish were Walter Benjamin, who was always given shit by the other members for using concepts from Jewish theology and kabbalah in his work, and Erich Fromm, who was entirely atheist by then and only referenced Jewish theology in passing.
Why does this matter if the rest were still jews
>>69975981
Because it shows how ridiculous the "Jewish conspiracy" is.
"Cultural marxism" = Stormfags and Breitbart look for a new "market demographic".
>>69976286
>Because it shows how ridiculous the "Jewish conspiracy" is.
They are still kikes atheistic or not
>>69975981
To elaborate: in order to prove that the Franks were part of a global jewspiracy, you would have to examine their loyalties to Jews and Judaism, which most of them had little interest in.
>>69976510
They are born nation wreckers they don't need to be religious. Also don't trust some kike to say if he is religious or not.
>>69975402
>Again, postmodernism has nothing to do with Frankfurt. It developed in an entirely different context, in France and using the methodology of Nietzsche and Heidegger.
It may not have to do with the Frankfurt school, but it has plenty to do with modern critical theory, which is now resembling Frankenstein's (school's) monster.
>More like, twisted their ideas. Foucault, for example, saw power as a verb rather than a noun; I doubt very much he'd agree with the sociologists who exploit his works when they say things like: "you can't be racist against white people," because, for Foucault, there are no clear-cut "oppressors" and "oppressed". Everyone, in his view, is capable of being either, or both.
Road to hell, good intentions etc.
>Did I mention Queer Theory and Postcolonial Theory are heavily anti-Marxist?
Maybe the man, but what they are trying to achieve is aligned. That being the destruction of the established economic, national, ethnic, sexual, whatever power-bases to bring about their utopia of equality and kumbaya. I imagine they don't much like marx because he was mostly concerned with economics (not appreciating the unique struggles of the LGBTBBQs is highly problematic), whereas the cultural Marxists, new left, progressives, whatever you want to call them view their battleground as cultural.
>>69976670
>It may not have to do with the Frankfurt school,
So you're finally coming around then?
>but it has plenty to do with modern critical theory,
Which, again, is POSTMODERNISM. There. I said it. Start blaming Foucault, Lacan, Derrida, and Irigaray for this crapola.
>Maybe the man, but what they are trying to achieve is aligned.
Not at all. For one thing, the agenda of Queer Theory (i.e. gender is a "performance") goes completely against the Radical Feminist idea that gender is a hierarchy.
Postcolonial Theory only develops a national consciousness, not a class or socialist consciousness, as it basically gives credit to the national bourgeoisie and other social hierarchies which existed in pre-colonized nations.
>muh caste system is muh spiritual enlightenment!
>muh niqab is muh freedom
Etc.
>I imagine they don't much like marx because he was mostly concerned with economics (not appreciating the unique struggles of the LGBTBBQs is highly problematic), whereas the cultural Marxists, new left, progressives, whatever you want to call them view their battleground as cultural.
Not quite. PoMos and their children hate Marx and Marxism because 1. it's materialist, 2. it assumes an absolute truth, whereas PoMo denies absolute truth exists, and 3. it relies on the science of history (historical materialism) in order to understand truth.
If you can't tell the difference between Dialectical Materialism and PoMo Dialectical Monism, I'd suggest talking to a philosophy professor. I can't write a phil paper on here at 4am in the morning.
>>69976666
>They are born nation wreckers
kek
>they don't need to be religious
Yup. And in your next post you'll be attributing "Jewish evil" to the Talmud and/or Zohar, right?
Really though, the only two Franks who had any extensive knowledge of Judaism were Fromm, an atheist who only used Jewish concepts to make a case for his Marxist humanism, and Benjamin, who was heavily criticized by Horkheimer and the rest of them for being super religious and mystical.
>>69975251
/thread
>>69977019
>"It may not have to do with the Frankfurt school, but it has plenty to do with modern critical theory"
>"Maybe the man, but what they are trying to achieve is aligned."
So basically; there doesn't have to be any connection between The Frankfurt School and modern politics for there to be a connection... aka you're batshit crazy and don't need to show any reason or logic to what you're saying.
>>69977019
Why would you lie?
>Postmodernist ideas in philosophy and the analysis of culture and society expanded the importance of critical theory
>>69977138
Marx was also atheist jew
>>69977225
These people are so brain-dead it's entertaining. Hence why I love making these threads.
>>69977344
>i can't back up my antisemitism so i'm just going to throw insults around
Jesus was a long haired radical socialist jew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_v9tz2nxvs
>>69977428
>can't back up
main criticizers of nation states were jews
>you're just antisemite
alright
14% of Iceland's entire population are out on the streets demanding the resignation of the centre-right liberal agrarian eurosceptic PM of Iceland just because Emperor Soros told them to.
Oh and get this. It no longer says on wikipedia that the Progressive Party is eurosceptic.
It's likely that Gunnlaugsson is going to be replaced by a pro-EU Prime Minister and that they're then going to be offered a good deal that they just can't refuse about joining the EU because muh artificially shitty economy on life support needs another adrenaline shot, it's definitely going to help this time guys.
Where were you when blatantly obvious coup d'etat's made by known Jewish Supremacists became socially acceptable?
>>69977850
>Where were you when blatantly obvious coup d'etat's made by known Jewish Supremacists became socially acceptable?
1917 long before i was born
>>69977850
What does Soros have to do with the Frankfurt School?
>Where were you when blatantly obvious coup d'etat's made by known Jewish Supremacists became socially acceptable?
When I realized the Jews designated as "evil" have zero commitment to Judaism or Jewishness and are just in it for money and power.
>>69967124
>>69966034
I can't be fucked watching a 15 minute video from someone with an anime avatar.
eat shit.
>>69977946
>>69978010
I meant to post a new thread but feel free to discuss it here
>>69977655
Western Liberal Secular Democracy is based on criticizing nation states; The French Revolution and American Revolution were based on criticisms of the nation states that came before them.
>>69976670
Here is a pissy right-winger complaining about her education in Postmodernism and Deconstruction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRgvfruhPo
Of course, she leaves out the fact that her "god-like" teacher was outed as having been a Nazi in his youth.
>>69977019
>So you're finally coming around then?
No, I'm just acknowledging that the modern political landscape is not entirely the result of some Germans from the 20s, acting like some kind of zombie puppeteers.
>Which, again, is POSTMODERNISM. There. I said it. Start blaming Foucault, Lacan, Derrida, and Irigaray for this crapola.
I'm certainly not trying to defend the post modernists, but neither am I going to the marxists - especially when it is them who "built the church".
>Not at all. For one thing, the agenda of Queer Theory (i.e. gender is a "performance") goes completely against the Radical Feminist idea that gender is a hierarchy.
Both aim to tear down masculinity and view men as above women, either as something held over women (women are just as good as men) or something that is inherent to men (women can be "men" if you teach them to be, and can thus take their place). What differs is what they perceive a "man" as.
>Postcolonial Theory only develops a national consciousness, not a class or socialist consciousness, as it basically gives credit to the national bourgeoisie and other social hierarchies which existed in pre-colonized nations.
They aren't directly trying to get the proles to rise up and size control of the means of production, but the dissolution of national identity and the idea that no one person or group is inherently better than another is very much central to communism (ignoring "more equal than others").
>>69978030
I didn't make it but whatev.
>>69977850
BRAVO SOROS
Honestly this is masterful
>>69978344
K, I never said you did - but the way you've made a point to say this (or similar) to other posts, makes me have my doubts.
I'm pretty sure you did make the video and you're trying to fish for views and subs for your irrelevant channel.
>>69978133
>The French Revolution and American Revolution were based on criticisms of the nation states that came before them.
funny then that favorite jew meme was that french revolution made nationalism
>>69978559
Glad you're not denying that Criticism is a vital part of western liberal secular democracy.
>>69978500
Thanks for reminding me to get some views:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgzp9vGx01o
>>69978339
Once again, you fail to realize that Postmodernism and Frankfurt School developed independently of each other and have little to do with one another.
Again, I could go over the differences between, say, Marcuse and Foucault but it's 4:30 in the morning and I can barely keep my head up.
>Both aim to tear down masculinity and view men as above women,
Queer Theory rejects metanarratives such as this. Read Judith Butler and you'll see how fucking liberal and un-threatening she is.
>but the dissolution of national identity and the idea that no one person or group is inherently better than another is very much central to communism (ignoring "more equal than others").
So the whole "WE WUZ KANGS" trope you see so often from armchair Afrocentricists translates to "all races are equal"? Because that's the kind of stuff Postcolonial theory puts out.
>>69978559
Glad you're not denying that Criticism is a vital part of western liberal democracy.
>>69978500
Thanks for reminding me to get some views:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgzp9vGx01o
>>69978673
>Hurburrt Marcewss
That alone hurt my ears.
>>69978770
Patbert Mahbuchanuse
Herbert Buchanan
>>69978840
Marcuse was pretty chill. One-Dimensional Man is a great little book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jFIfJBKdaw
>>69975251
>This much damage control
Where is /pol/ characterized as a hive mind? Anon is clearly talking about the way /pol/ largely characterizes "cultural marxism" as the nexus of degeneracy in the west (something which is kind of difficult to deny for people with eyes), not that /pol/ is reddit (which is a pretty shitty hive mind at that).
>This is basically the same logic behind unironic renditions of "/pol/ is always right," for "/pol/" to be "right" it has to have some loosely agreed upon ideas, such as how "cultural marxism" is characterized.
>inb4 i'm not BTFO by meeting one exception to the rule
>Jewish literature
into the pyre it goes
>>69978703
Well Ok, I'll let you get to bed then. Maybe we'll continue another time.
