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First question: What level of interest should we take in the Panama Papers, and how do we use the revelations about various global politicians, business figures, and entertainment figures to our advantage? On one hand, it displays quite plainly the corruption and graft that is an inherent trait of the elites in global capitalism. On the other hand, capitalist media loves corruption stories when they can frame corruption itself as the problem, rather than corruption as being a mere symptom of capitalism. Though the Pirates are basically a lock to win the upcoming elections in Iceland, which is kekworthy.
>>69951217
if it werent for communism i would still have my grandparents
>>69951217
fuck off reddit
>>69952450
Khmer Rouge were reactionary as fuck, funded by the USA, and ousted by Vietnam
>>69952512
leddit socialists are our worst enemy, lol
>>69952450
lel sucks for you
How does leftypol feel that they society they will be united in and "from each according to their ability to each according to their need" would be filled with nignogs?
>>69954742
"Work harder Anon, can't you see Tyrone is suffering? He needs a healthy steak meal, and as a fucking white male you can survive easily on nutritious oats and water, after all you can feel good about your privilege which he does not have, after all the Executive Council of the Central Committe only has one black lesbian transsexual"
>>69955110
>muh privilege meme
You don't seem to understand who we are.
>>69955839
how would communism erase oppressive social stereotypes?
>answer: erasing the people who currently talk about them
Who else here thinks Social democracy is the best system? It could be done on a larger level or as a decentralized model. I believe a decentralized model would work very well in the richer and advanced states like New England.
>>69955991
Racism is a consequence of the class system; even Marx himself noted how capitalists pitted English and Irish factory workers against each other. Read up on the base and superstructure senpai
>>69952512
Lefty pol is a sub board 8 chan, isn't it.
Better dead than red if you ask me
I just realized how much I missed old commie /pol/ threads.
- very oldfag
>>69956237
But the perception of racism stems from people claiming it's there. You would still have people claiming that Tyrone is subject to subtle racist microaggressions, and therefore he can work less and deserves more food to compensate. How would you erase those?
>>69956503
Wicked interesting that Cold War propaganda still echoes a little bit.
When I see white commies I get this vibe they're like "ILL FIGHT YOU IF YOU DONT LET NIGGERS FUCK MY GIRLFRIEND!"
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>>69956661
Anon thank you for your well thought out, educated, rational and level headed viewpoint. Truly insightful.
>>69956552
They can say whatever they want, but they'd be stupid and wrong. 99% of minorities couldn't give two shits about MICROAGGRESSIONS anyway, that's mostly annoying white SJW students
learn2materialism
The only acceptable form of Communism is NazBol or Strasserism.
>>69956838
Too authoritarian really.
Do you guys remember that one time Marxist policies totally worked?
>>69956788
But whether people believe something to be true simply depends on whether they are told it is true in great enough volume.
So I suppose it is
>how would communism erase oppressive social stereotypes?
>>answer: erasing the people who currently talk about them
>>69951217
More are being revealed if im right, So we should wait until we have all the cards needed in our deck. Maybe we can find Hillary if we look deeper, Or someone from the Transcanada pipeline project.
>>69957009
Norway and Denmark are doing very well and have been for some time.
>>69956989
Left Communists are an infantile disease
>>69957116
I'm not a communist.
>>69957209
What are you then? A Lolbergtarian?
>>69956950
>literally made up study, link included doesn't show that chart, i don't know how this is relevant anyway
>>69957009
define "worked"
also, see image
>>69956237
i knew you guys were stupid, but holy fuck that graphic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning
>>69957102
>see lack of nignogs when current workers were growing up and until recently
Also you can still make billions here, there's just a steep progressive tax, but no ceiling.
>>69957102
neither of those are remotely "marxist" fwiw
>>69957277
I already said I'm liberal and I think social democracy can be used very beneficially.
Fuck off
Why do idealist, unrealistic commies hate the middle class? I still work for a living and ultimately i'm still standing in shit, just not quite as much as the lower class.
Wouldn't it be vastly more prudent to attack the rich people, mainly the rich jews? If you steal from me to redistribute to the many, I hate to tell you this, but you're not getting much.
Also, why do you think that individuals will work according to their ability? Hasn't it been proven time and time again that there will be those capable of working, yet continue to be lazy if someone is there to spoon feed them? How do you propose having people actually being invested into the collectivist greater good, and who decides what each person's need is? An extremely privileged/wealthy politburo type of government? I don't even think Marx's communism has ever been realized after reading the manifesto, you got a lot of work to do senpai.
>>69957009
>stayed at a commune for a few days earlier this year
suprise suprise, 70% of them were a bunch of lazy fucks.
Totally reinforced my belief in our current system
I bet that's more communism than any of you arm-chair Marxist have ever experienced
>>69957028
>USA swole as fuck
>Africa tiny blac dik
>>69957334
So?
>>69957357
Social democracy is socialism lite and based on Marxist ideas. Good thing this thread is about leftism in general.
>>69951217
The level of interest you should take is to put a gun in your mouth and spray your brains over the ceiling, bandit. It'll save you the trouble of dying in the Lubyanka building like the rest of the wide-eyed Leftists when the revolution comes.
>>69951217
it's obvious /pol/
the commies are coming.
We must Paul Revere this shit up.
Ever since the New Left Marxists got a stranglehold on the media narrative and have been successful global capitalist puppets, it has really shown the only true opposition is National Socialism of the Strasser variety.
Communism cucks you to these globalists and Capitalism cucks you to them too.
The only way forward is full National Socialism. SIEG HEIL
>>69957426
Because the middle class is most deeply in the lifeless struggle of the proletariat. They have successfully bent to the will of their capitalist master unlike the poor but still are at the bottom of the food chain unlike the rich. They are the next in line to sell soul for capital.
>>69951217
Do you have an explanation for why Paname Papers have nothing to say about US politicians?
Are you guys following infamy.org and the IMF "wreck Europe" leak?
>>69956156
You mean the ones that are nearly ethnically homogenous. You leftists are all the same: you just cover up your racism and anti-Semitism with self-serving charity.
>>69957613
This
>>69957504
it's not a great template to expect to make a great Communist utopia out of desu senpai
NEWSFLASH: Sanders Donor David Geffen just listed in the Panama Papers!
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/article69920967.html
>>69957327
jesus christ that's not circular reasoning, that's a self-reinforcing system
if you're going to criticize marxian analysis you could start by reading marx
>>69957389
Righteous brother
>>69957935
The US is very diverse in make-up anon. There really aren't that many black people at all in new England compared to the res tof the nation.
>>69957817
Really just strawman after strawman.
The only thing the left has to offer us is how to pull off successful revolutions.
>>69951217
Soros is playing you like a fucking fiddle.
>>69951217
fuck off leddit
>>69957997
Holy fuck moron, circular reasoning is a self-reinforcing system of thought.
If you are going to stand up for marx, please read up on the logical fallacies.
>i can shitpost too
>>69957432
It's almost as if all progress comes from white western countries
>>69957798
You seem like the type of person who would know where I could find a comprehensive summary of the Manning cable leaks?
>>69957718
I was told that double4chan had superior discourse in comparison to this board. Imagine my disgust when you're proving that to be a fantasy. You barely even addressed my post. Oh well, i'll just move along.
>>69958131
george soros being culturally liberal doesn't mean he isn't a member of the capitalist class, and therefore an enemy (though i don't obsessively focus on him in particular like you folks do)
>>69958161
>this vaguely fits into one of a list of logical fallacies
>therefore it is untrue
>>69958168
white people didn't give us anime tho
>>69957718
And you serve those capitalist kikes by fighting those that fight their agenda to turn us into a brown huddled mass of slaves with no traditions or identity besides being a fucking consumer.
>>69957798
>Do you have an explanation for why Paname Papers have nothing to say about US politicians?
A. There is some sort of grand conspiracy afoot
B. Americans don't hide money in Panama specifically for whatever reason
C. American names have yet to be released
what is the leftist response to the problem of immigrants taking jobs from the working class?
>>69958530
The big problem with Soros is that he's trying to make you a minority in your homecountry. He is trying to wipe you out for his own amusement.
>>69956661
Why does /pol/ always fantasize about about niggers fucking other people's girlfriends?
>>69958693
check your privilege and give them your wife
>>69958580
what? capitalists fucking love exploiting existing racial divides.
>>69958530
>>this vaguely fits into one of a list of logical fallacies
>>therefore it is untrue
No this is the epitome of the circular reasoning fallacy, therefore it is untrue.
>the bible is the word of god
how do you know
>god told us thru his son jesus
how do you know
>the bible is the word god
You are literaly on the same tier you fuck retard.
Corruption is not a trait of ideology, but rather one of human nature.
>>69958700
if we went by how whiteness was originally defined in america, whites (as in WASPs) have been a minority for probably over a century now--the same is already happening with white hispanics (like me). that is, the american conception of race is rather flexible. i am, for the record, critical of current immigration policy, but it's not racial so much as economic (that is, bringing in low-wage labor in a race to the bottom in a process that exploits both immigrant and native workers)
[also, insert reminder that white people have only been a majority in north america for 300 years here]
Communism is a normie ideology. Even the end goal, a stateless society, would just be comrade Chad with a harem, since all tradition and religion would vanish.
>>69958788
Agreed.
I would stand with black nationalists in hanging the bourgeois
BUT you forget that globalist Jews are flooding our country's to turn us into Brazil and genocide the white population. They are exploiting the blacks and Latinos. While you Marxists stand with them.
I know they exploit racial tensions, but to the DETRIMENT of whites, not blacks.
The top Jews, Saudis, and Anglos don't us.
Also ever since the New Left took over the labor left labor relations have gone to shit. Unions are dying and income inequality is the highest it's been.
>>69959028
>but it's not racial so much as economic
What about cultural?
>>69959028
>white Hispanics
This is what beaner /pol/ users think they are. Unless you are from Spain or can trace your lineage back to Spain 100% you are not a white Hispanic
>>69959028
The natives weren't exactly using the land to it's fullest extent
They didn't even have the wheel senpai
>>69959154
reflection of material conditions (i.e. economy), which is one big thing SJW liberals get wrong--putting more blacks and women into vidya isn't going to solve shit
>>69957613
how can you argue european supremacy when your aryan historical and contemporary perspective is framed around a dogmatic belief that "lol melanin makes u stoopid" hahah
>B-but Western/Eastern culture is b-better than n-n-niggers!
you can't prove something wrong that exists completely outside the bounds of reason lol
it's on par with proving something as retarded as "intelligence correlates with melanin", there's simply no scientific or academic precedent for such a dogmatic, mongoloid statement
the arabs and indians invented algebra, astrology, and pretty much everything that allowed for european technological advancement, industrialization, and imperialism
you would know that if you read a book hahahah how many people will your "crusade" enlighten if they're conquered by braindead uneducated "ubermensch" like yourself
honestly if you think "whiteness" exists objectively and isn't a social construct caused by european imperialism, you're retarded senpai
maybe you'd know better if you read actual academic sources and didn't get your knowledge from fucking youtube videos and a blatantly biased and unsourced website that look like it was made in geocities in 2003 hahahahah
lmfaooooo there was literally no such thing as the "white race" before the 18th century
>b-but desu ur a Baka lmao HEIL H-HITLE-
i think it would be useful to reflect on yourself and notice how you can't refute anything I've said and can only respond with weeaboo memes senpai
maybe you should try to at least finish high school and buy a book with your next unemployment benefit
It's hilarious how most people who call themselves communists in the United States are young hipsters in their 20s who never spent a single day of their lives in a communist country. I grew up and lived in a communist state for 10 years and it is the complete opposite of idealist communism. Communism can never be achieved because so much power in the central government will lead to corruption and oppression. The wealth gap between the poor and the rich was much more severe than the gap in the United States. "Communists" these days won't understand until they go live in a communist state for a few years.
>>69958788
>reminding gommunists that they literally have to share "work according to ability, receive according to need" with nignogs
>working ability of nignogs
>needs of nignogs
feels good man
>>69958748
Why do leftist cucks actually do that?
>>69959242
i can, specifically to sephardi coerced to convert to catholicism
>>69959357
No desu senpai don't you see, after you have created an allpowerful singleparty state with unlimited power to effectuate redistribution and socialism, they state will realize that they are not needed any more and simply choose to abolish themselves and remove their own power
>mfw people actually believe this
>>69959356
Every single thing you said was a Strawman and was very poorly written.
Congratulations, you win my Party's recently produced song.
http://youtu.be/qtEqdFjUdVk
>>69959436
Don't get too excited thinking about it, Pablo
>>69959341
Islamism isn't a reflection of material conditions.
>>69959448
>Sephardi
I forgot that /pol/ loves jews and considers them white now since their god-emperor is a zionist
>>69959356
Obviously your Communist Central Committee would have an equal number of black people in it, maybe even a majority being particularly knowledgeable about oppression and activism
>mfw communists try to plan with a room full of dindus
>>69959703
oh no i'm OP/the commie who started this thread, trump a shit
>>69959746
what are you even talking about? have you even met one of the six or so black people in norway?
>>69959356
>>>astrology
>if you think "whiteness" exists objectively
What?
>lmfaooooo
Jesus man.
>>69959833
>Fascist
>supporting Capitalism
Nice try kike.
>>69959939
end of dump
>>69959878
>trump a shit
Explain.
>>69959878
Yes, I have.
You are now aware that your local communist society is very open to accusations of racism unless you include a meaningful number of black people.
>>69959833
>>69959894
Dumbshits will ignore this an continue to rave about SJWs.
I guess when you're a retard you have position yourself against other retards to try and seem vaguely intelligent.
>>69955839
Why would you expect us to know anything about your gay little board?
>>69959833
>>69959851
>>69959894
>>69959939
>>69959981
Oh here he goes again. Look at you Canada, posting on /int/ thinking you just said some smart shit.
Out of all countries that post here Canadians are the ones that piss me off the most. Their entire fucking culture makes no sense. What exactly is it that you do? Wear flannel shirts and slurp syrup?
If I think of America I think of guns, pop culture and freedom. Sure, lots of ignorant baboons but at least they wear their retardation like a badge of honor, use it as a cultural identity, their flag promotes the unity of the country with all these stripes and stars.
Germany is orderly, a country that prides itself on its rules and their citizens who follow them. It's also the country with the biggest responsibility when it comes to destroying Europe with its two world wars and government sanctioned refugee crisis. Their flag waves strong colors, black, red and gold. A dominant flag for a dominant country.
Russia is strong and stubborn to a fault. They live hard lives and don't complain about it. Obviously the entire country is pretty much a shithole but it breeds strong people who can take care of themselves. Their flag represents the cold, the white, the blue but also the burning passion in the red, it all comes together to signify that their country is bleak but there is strength in that.
But Canada, what are they fucking known for? Being "nice", i guess? Is that your role in the world? Being fucking nice? That's not an achievement. Everyone can be nice. It's easy to be nice. You just don't have to say anything bad.
So what did your fucking country decide to put on their flag to show the entire world what Canada is all about? A leaf. A FUCKING LEAF. You decided that you like to slurp your shitty syrup so damn much that you might as well put the fucking leaf that it's made of on the flag. You don't even respect your own country so why the hell should I.
>>69960013
in a way that /pol/acks would understand:
>uses illegal immigrant labor
>aggressively supports israel
>his daughter (who he probably fucks) married a jew and converted to judaism
>>69959938
fascism absolutely supports capitalism
>>69957102
Don't they have frightening suicide rates?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298Cw3_qGwE
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>>69960353
No it doesn't, retard.
The only "Fascist" that ever supported Capitalism was Pinochet.
Retarded Kike puppets like you would know that if you researched anything about it. Gas yourself retard
>>69951217
I can't help but think this is just a distraction. We all know the jews/new world order are up to shit. There very well could be something actually important happening SOON.
I fucking hate that I have such little trust for the world that something like the panama papers just makes me think its a distraction.. But it honestly might be...
Keep your eyes out for something that actually matters.
p.s I fucking love putin even more after seeing he was in this. Such a fucking corrupt badass. I love russian chuck norris hahaha.
>>69958052
As of now most socialists in the West seem to be projecting an inner battle to quell their own racism. They scream that everyone has it but them when there is none to be seen
Not labeling you, just helping you understand where the other anon was coming from. I've not seen a thread on socialism in /pol without the leftists mentioning inequality
>>69959356
What about the fact that equality in some schools is attained by adding SAT points based on race?
BETTER DEAD THAN RED YOU PINKO FAGGOTS
>>69960766
race is a social construct dude
>>69959357
Yeah exactly. The citizens asking for communism are basically asking for God's own angels to come down and rule without judgment. Communism is a paradise that doesn't exist here
Fun fact: they say that Eastern countries used to remove the bone separating the frontal lobes so that personal judgment didn't get in the way of making decisions for the empire
>>69960847
>Cuz dat's how i feelz
Nice propaganda
>>69961237
nice strawman, cuck
>>69961127
Actually it was the fissure of rolando they would remove
>>69961127
the what now
>>69952450
Hello /pol/ pot
cut off all their heads, for starters
>>69961452
Older empires would remove certain parts of the brain in their kings to allow more thorough connections between the higher centers and the reptilian brain
I have no idea how valid it is but on the surface it could be possible I guess
>>69961675
certain bones inside the skull*
btw, why do all you classcucks assume that anyone who disagrees with you is from leddit? i hate the commies there, they steal our memes and have completely embraced SJWery
>>69959851
>all value is created by labor
Point out how idiotic this is to a leftypol and all he will say is that "you just don't understand!!!"
Recently had them flat out redefining "value" as meaning neither selling price or value to the end consumer. Laff
>>69962081
go choke on a nigger dick and die from AIDS
>>69962081
Probably because commies are about as intelligent as reddit's userbase
Please lay out in very clear reasons why you think it would not go sour the minute it was implemented. Even the church had trouble producing men of that caliber. The only man I can think of who could sustain communism is Marcus Aurelius. And he was one in a million
>>69962400
It's easy, just convince everyone who will ever live to never accept wages ever again or ever consider anything larger than a knick knack their personal property. Ever again. Easy peasy!
>>69962663
What would the common goal in society be? I mean you guys insist that equality is going to solve everything but what about our doctors? Our teachers? Our mechanics? What would get them to work together and to be okay with receiving little in return for their contributions in society?
>>69962663
>>69962869
And even then how could we measure our success without material means?
>>69962663
Just a couple questions in and you give up. Guess the leddit memes are true
