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What political/social opinions do you have which most of /pol/ disagrees with?
>>69947052
Jews are generally exceptional people.
>>69947134
>shill
I think the distinction lies in that /pol/ hates the rich and powerful Jews/Zionists and how they have an elitist community (mostly the Hasidic type).
I like taxing the rich.
>>69947052
There is nothing wrong with being gay and any man who says there not at least a tiny bit attracted to other dudes occasionally is an insecure liar
In the criminal justice system rehabilitation is far more important than punishment.
>>69947052
life has meaning
>>69947052
I don't mind homosexuals or their faggotry so long as they're not the flamboyant annoying kind.
I'd also date a black girl if she didn't give off a ghetto attitude vibe.
Race is insignificant when compared to culture and individual character.
Marx was right about a lot of things, hisideology has been re-purposed by a truly exceptional legion of useful idiots.
Old school communists aren't the enemy, social democrats are.
Women in traditional roles are boring. I'd much rather have a woman take charge and her be the tough strong one, and me take the submissive role.
>>69947246
> I think the distinction lies in that /pol/ hates the rich and powerful Jews/Zionists and how they have an elitist community (mostly the Hasidic type).
So they're just using Jews as a scapegoat than? Do they care about the Christain elites who control this country?
>>69947052
- Gay are a problem, it is not just trannies that are an issue.
- Free speech is generally good.
- White nationalism is retarded and globalist in nature.
- There is nothing wrong with Zionism as a political theory.
- Western social liberalism is a bigger problem than immigration.
- Capitalism is good at making money but needs to be heavily regulated to protect national interests. Capitalists are not by nature patriots.
- Importation of voters for the left is a bigger issue than race mixing.
- We need Christianity to help reinforce social conservatism which is essential for maintaining a society.
- Not all whites are good.
- Local level politics is better than higher level politics, meaning empires, federations, political unions etc are terrible things in the long term.
- Race war is a retarded idea.
- White immigration is a problem, even if not as much of a problem as other forms of immigration.
>>69947389
I actually fully agree with this statement, especially the last part. I mean, from my experience it seems that pretty much all girls have bisexual tendencies or at least some attraction towards girls from time to time. Men are just told from an early age it's wrong - not explicitly told, but told to believe that being gay is something different, when it's totally normal.
Occurrences of homosexuality is scattered across human history, it's nothing to be ashamed about.
saudis did 9/11
not the jews
lucky larry was just lucky
Abortion should be free, legal and there should be convenient clinics in every ghetto, trailer park and bario.
All humans deserve social, legal, and economic equality.
>>69947612
They care about non-jew "jews" like Rockefeller
>>69947389
I sometimes have dreams of fucking other dudes. Please help
Pre-marital sex is degenerate for both sexes and sleeping with lots of girls because "the game is rigged" does not absolve you of degeneracy.
Masturbation is also degenerate.
However, degenerate behavior doesn't make you unredeemable, but it makes no sense to sugar coat degeneracy and call it something other than what it is.
>>69947052
Trump can't win a general election
I am pro-trans.
>>69947612
>Do they care about the Christain elites who control this country?
/pol/ says that the jewish elites control the christian elites. See the love for israel.
>>69947814
>Pre-marital sex is degenerate for both sexes and sleeping with lots of girls because "the game is rigged" does not absolve you of degeneracy.
Also this.
the Trump circlejerk is cancerous
>>69947052
>Jews rule the world because they're smarter than everyone else.
>I don't have an issue with the gays, just wish they'd shut the fuck up about it
>Organized religion is simply a means to control the plebs
>I don't like illegals because they're criminals, but all the Hispanics I've met are pretty cool
>Hitler did some good things, but he wound up being a evil maniac
>The holocaust did happen, but probably not at the numbers reported and - like the gays - I wish they'd shut up about it.
>I believe there is a major difference between black folks and niggers. I don't believe there's a nigger in every black waiting to get out.
I hate that lying faggot piece of shit Milo, he is just a smarter (ie sneakier) Ben Shapiro
COMMUNISM
>>69947052
>>69947052
Israel, all things considered, isnt that bad and people that choose to side with muslims over Israel simply because of REEE JEWS! are being petty edge lords
I also believe all the bush did 9/11 stuff was started by muslims on the internet as well
>>69947506
That's how I feel about everybody. Just don't shove your culture down my throat and we're cool. Suck a dick, be a nog, fuck goats, I don't care just as long as you assimilate when you're in public.
>>69947052
Trump is not totally a bad guy, but I overall do not support his policies. I think his supporters are fucking retards and he has no chance to win in a national election.
The white race cannot be saved. It's over.
Men do not need to "man up", women need to stop being sluts and whores. The beta nu-male problem is nowhere near as bad as the slut/whore problem.
>>69947052
Most non-Zionist, non Cultural Marxist Jews are bro-tier, and their women are some of the best white wives you could hope for.
Intelligent, hard-working blacks, when you find them, are some of the most red pilled, bro-tier folks you'll ever encounter.
Homosexuality and heterosexual polyamory (especially when one or both people in the couple are closer to the middle of the Kinsey scale) are largely victimless crimes practiced by a tiny fraction of the population that in no way contribute to the growing degeneracy of modern society.
>>69947052
women shouldn't vote
>>69947052
I still want to vote Democrat but Shillary is a liar and Bernie seems like he would accomplish nothing since that is his record.
I always assume these threads are just honeypots to find new ways to bait the board
I have an XY chromosome and want a vagina.
Bernie Sanders might be the best candidate
America is a pathetic nation. It adopted anything of value from us. They like to brag about their "power" yet they seem to forget that they just continued where we left. It was handed to them on a silver platter. Look at them, they haven't won a single war. Absolutely btfo by Vietnamese farmers. Then they have the nerve to come on here and brag about how they're this and that. You're nothing but a spoiled little brat that received everything when daddy passed away. Absolutely pathetic.
>>69948173
I thought that was a standard opinion?
>>69948268
Milne are my actual opinions.
>>69947659
>- White nationalism is retarded and globalist in nature.
explain?
>>69947709
This. They feared Saddam far more than the Jews did, and they wanted him gone.
Though Mossad/Israel/Bush likely knew what was going down and let it happen.
>>69947052
I don't care about social shit, but I firmly believe that only income tax payers should be allowed to vote in both state and federal elections.
I think jews actually provide nice competition for whites in the grand scheme of evolution.
Trump doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell with those poll numbers.
And no, 1980 doesn't apply, Trump isn't running against the least popular politician of all time who during his last year in office failed to manage a hostage crisis, 10% inflation, 8% unemployment, record high gas prices, and a nuclear meltdown, and only won his own renomination by 1%.
>>69947052
I'm not an ethnonationalist, but a cultural nationalist. Still believe in segregation though.
>>69948316
White Nationalism is just like other forms of globalism, it presumes that all the people picked for it are the same and that there is no conflict between them. ie. That all whites are somehow the same and that if you had a white state it would be fine regardless of the ethnic makeup. I also think the concept of white is a bit useless, I tend to think of things in terms of common civilisations. It is like liberalism in that it wants to unite people without accounting for differences.
I think Applejack is the best pony.
>>69948368
Great idea but the grey area of retirees, the disabled and the self-employed who often go calendar years without income make it tough to nail down.
>>69948562
Yep... Would also need to figure out what to do with the retired folks, including those that retire early.
Ah well, a man can dream.
>>69947754
how people disagree with this on the basis of religion is just laughable
>>69948154
> The beta nu-male problem is nowhere near as bad as the slut/whore problem.
True, but the beta nu-male problem supports slut/whores. Without betas sluts and whores wouldn't be so popular are defended. Being branded a whore would be a social death sentence.
Women hate whores, even whoreish women. Some of the biggest whores I have ever met are the most hateful people when it comes to other women.
Normal men either find whores so repulsive they'd never deal with them beyond politeness, or they pump and dump, leaving the whore an empty mess as her social credibility is drained and society starts making it clear that what they did is wrong. This in turn makes other women less willing to whore out, simply because if they were found out to be a whore it would be the end of them.
Nu-males however will bend over backwards to be friends with these women. Nu-males allow women to think that what they are doing is not wrong, and allows these whores to have a social group so they aren't so isolated. Have you ever noticed that whores tend to have a large group of nu-male friends that will both defend them and go out of their way to take care of them? And not only that, but nu-males are more willing to be nice to whores, both because it makes them feel like they are better people, and because they want to get fucked, making it so that there is in a sense, a benefit to being a whore, seeing as how nu-males will give you shit and do whatever you want them to.
>>69947052
I actually like kikes, they are hardworking and intelligent motherfuckers, too bad they have this "Israel must rule" messianism and the holocaust "we are alone vs the world" views.
>>69947709
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>69948881
>actually believing whores are anything new
>actually believing beta orbitors are anything new
they dont call it the worlds oldest profession
yeah I know you dont really mean literal whores, Im just being cheeky
>>69947052
There's nothing wrong with race mixing as long as they're good people and ethnic women are more attractive than most white women.
>>69947052
Serbs are cockroaches and generally a shitty nationality.
>>69948753
>I'm going to be the "man"
>I'll do all the work and try to impress women
>I'll give them all these gifts and buy them dinner instead of letting them take care of me and get invested in the relationship
>If a woman put no effort in the relationship she must be loyal
Have fun getting cucked friendo, female dominance is the most redpilled anti-cuck relationship dynamic possible.
>>69948297
>Haven't won a war
Except all those times we kicked your ass slimy limey.
>>69947246
there are plenty of jews on pol who hate them to don't worry
>>69947588
t. Adam the effeminate
>>69949053
But even aside from the fact that you were just being cheeky, it's true in the literal sense too of whore.
If men didn't date and take care of prostitutes, less women would be willing to whore themselves out, just like if less men married women with mixed children, these women, and other women, would have to come to realize that the mistake they made had made them undesirable.
>>69949220
>all those times
When? On, you mean when the French killed a few of our men? kek.
>>69949220
That show was hot
>you will never be princess carried
>>69948303
9/11 was an inside job
>>69947052
I like Poland.
>>69947052
I think evangelical Christians and baptists are the real cancer of this world, not jews, and that they were founded by demons, especially Mormonism which was likely founded by Satan himself to misguide true christian followers from the 4 true churches of Christ on earth. Catholic, Orthodox, Lutheran, and Anglican.
Jews are superior to goys objectively if you believe /pol/
>>69947389
This.
Fuck lesbians though. And trannies who don't fully commit. and gender queer shit. polyamorous shit.
>regardless if Jews are behind it or not, unrestrained Capitalism is a cancer that must be removed.
>Trannies are just broken people, hate the sin not the sinner.
>It is plausible that Trump is just a patsy to enable a Democrat victory.
>Marx had a lot of good points, but his historical materialism and most of his economics were flawed (see labor theory of value).
>Distributism is the only way for conservatives to move forward in today's world since it promotes family, faith, and community and is anti-usury.
>>69948530
back to your hole in the wall, Rato.
>>69949750
>>regardless if Jews are behind it or not, unrestrained Capitalism is a cancer that must be removed.
>.> we said unpopular opinions , not stupid ones.
>>69947052
I don't need to earn as much money as people in western Europe to be happy.
Pols endless memeification of trump is kiddie bullshit and pathetic strongman idolatry
>>69947659
>- White nationalism is retarded and globalist in nature.
>- Not all whites are good.
These two points go hand in hand, as explained in this post: >>69948515
>- Race war is a retarded idea.
Is a consequence of understanding the two statements quoted above.
>- Capitalism is good at making money but needs to be heavily regulated to protect national interests. Capitalists are not by nature patriots.
One of Trump's messages.
>- Free speech is generally good.
Wonder if you don't feel that free speech should also be somewhat regulated (at least more than it already is), to encourage and engender heroic values in the youth rather than spread degenerate values like wildfire (the current function of media). In the same way unfettered capitalism can lead to unpatriotic actions, unfettered free speech leads to degenerate culture in which an emergent power structure/narrative nevertheless emerges, despite the "freedom" of said speech. Why not have such a structure/narrative imposed on it formally/explicitly?
>>69947775
this really isn't a bold stance, it's just straight fantasy. Humans are not all equal, this is a fact, wishing for total equality would mean the death of humanity, there's just no feasable way to make sure everybody is equal.
>>69947052
1. Abortion is murder.
2. Jews are OK, Zionist lobbies are the problem.
3. There is nothing wrong with race mixing as long as both individuals are high IQ. Eugenics should be actively used to improve the human race. I don't care if the white race dies if it results in a higher-IQ hapa masterrace. The problem is that it's the low IQ mestizos and niggers breeding.
4. Gays are as much a problem as trannies.
5. Nazism is a failed Statist ideology, a 19th century-style limited Republic remains the best system
I think we should protect the environment. I like organic foods and support animal rights. I have a very soft spot for nature
>Israel is a model state that ought to be maintained and supported
>Ethnonationalism is cancer
>Shi'a Muslims are overall fine people
>Jews are okay
>The Holocaust happened
>There is no such thing as superior race, only superior culture
>Being a Libertarian is almost as bad as being a SJW Liberal
>Capitalism is to blame for the decline of traditional values, Christian morals, and the massive emphasis on Sex in western society.
>Mussolini > Hitler
>Stormfags are literally Right-wing SJW's
>Abortion is a necessary evil
>Race war is a meme
inb4 shill
>>69950164
>Wonder if you don't feel that free speech should also be somewhat regulated (at least more than it already is), to encourage and engender heroic values in the youth rather than spread degenerate values like wildfire (the current function of media). In the same way unfettered capitalism can lead to unpatriotic actions, unfettered free speech leads to degenerate culture in which an emergent power structure/narrative nevertheless emerges, despite the "freedom" of said speech. Why not have such a structure/narrative imposed on it formally/explicitly?
It gets misused every time it is done. I do not trust politicians and bureaucrats with that.
I don't care if a person is black or gay as long as they don't act like a nigger or a faggot. I also don't care if a person is Middle Eastern as long as they're not Muslim.
>>69947517
>>69947561
>>69947709
>>69947933
>>69950058
all these desu
>>69950061
nothing wrong with strongman preference.
its just the strongman figure that it was chosen
literally the worst possible choice in every way
>>69947814
you said degenerate like 5 times in 3 sentences, calm down you're fitting in dont try so hard.
sex is not degenerate, it's why we're all here. And if it's between two completely consenting adults there really shouldn't be a problem because if they're doing it excessively they have stigma and STDs to look forward to.
masturbation is a necessity, not degenerate. Without masturbation this whole site would be filled with blueballed rapists
Not all blacks are chimps and not all chimps are black
>>69950394
I don't want to be put in the same comment with these other retards.
Ted Cruz isn't a good person and is a mad zealot.
>>69950231
>Israel is a model state that ought to be maintained and supported
>Ethnonationalism is cancer
>mfw reading this contradictory shit
Gay marriage is fine
I dont eat beef or pork because i think theyre intelligent animals. I think climate change isnt something,to reflexively deny. I think trump has squandered any opportunity he may have had to become prez and its not just the liberal medias fault.
There is a difference between blacks and niggers. All niggers are black but not all blacks are niggers.
Abortion is a good thing, and should be allowed in all circumstances.
Israel is a great country. If the middle East consisted of more countries like Israel, and less Muslim shitholes, the world would be a much better place.
European colonialism caused a lot of problems that still persist today
>>69950231
Well said,
also, mass murderer come from all of the political spectrum
>>69950628
Israel isn't great because it's a ethnocentric state, it's good because it's the only middle-eastern state that isn't a dysfunctional Islamist shithole.
This thread is amazing. Sorry for shitpost.
The internet is degenerate by nature, and it's better to just ban and cut it off from all home use than to police or monitor the content.
Arranged marriage is a good thing, Romance broke the foundations of the institution of marriage even before the sexual revolution.
>>69950869
Which is because they have kept it ethnocentric. How are you not putting this together.
anyone who uses the word cuck is a redditor who watches sargon of akkad and the amazing athiest and believes they know everything
donald trump isn't perfect, he's got quite a bit of flaws
i dont hate an entire group of people based on statistics or videos of a few, people aren't so predictable and simple minded.
hitler was and is a failure
america will fall soon, complacency will be it's folly. like rome but fatter
If a happening did happen i'd like to see the neckbeards die in the crossfire from being drafted
welfare is necessary to help those in need, it just needs to be fixed so people can't take advantage
pure capitalism is pure evil at it's core, btw not a commie
america only cares about those who challenge it's supremacy
>>69950978
>implying that every other country in the middle-east isn't ethnocentric
>>69947052
Arranged marriage was good, but only in monogamous societies.
Capitalism is incompatible with traditionalism.
Libertarianism is just classical liberalism taken to a degenerate extreme.
Nationalist collectivism will beat individualism every time.
Mass Immigration is a capitalist tool.
>>69947052
rothbard was right
I kinda want Clinton to win. Sanders will destroy the economy, I don't want a religious zealot like Cruz running the country, and while I like Trump I think he's to emotional and divisive to be president.
If Clinton wins it'll just be another 4-8 years of the status quo, and at this point that doesn't seem so bad.
>>69947052
It's not happening.
>>69947659
>White nationalism is retarded and globalist in nature
agree 100%, people, especially northeastern Americans, do not think of themselves as white, they think that they are Italian, Irish etc.
>>69948294
haaaa
>>69950681
don't be a cretin
european colonialism built infrastructure in tribal lands and raised the primitives out of the abyss. We educated the equivalent of cavemen, and transferred an unfathomable wealth of knowledge and advancement to the most backwards, forgotten parts of the world. We gave them stability and the rule of law.
>>69947052
Holocaust happened.
Muslims did 9/11.
Hitler is the reason why it is frowned upon for the West to feel proud of itself and wish to preserve the unique cultures in favor of an inoffensive blend that loses everything.
His definition of what qualified as white would have eliminated a lot of the Caucasian race, especially your basement dwelling ass.
>>69951278
I'm honestly torn. I'm voting for Trump but if the GOPe snatches it from Trump and somehow it will be either Clinton or Sanders I don't know which I would be more upset with. I would never vote for either of them though but if Trump doesn't get the nomination I will not vote Republican, I'll vote libertarian.
>>69947052
>What political/social opinions do you have which most of /pol/ disagrees with?
I wish the holocaust was real but instead of jews, it was mormons.
>>69951477
Saudis did and funded it. Not Israel, not the Jews, not some Iraqi. The Saudis orchestrated the entire thing and we shouldn't be allies with them.
Holocaust happened
muslims did 9/11
Austria is responsible for everything wrong in modern society
>>69950681
No, Europeans giving up half-way through and leaving an unfinished job did.
>>69947052
Gays and homosexes have the right to procreate. Every gay man wishes he could carry a child for 40 weeks and tear his manpussy open pushing that child out.
>>69947052
Hitler was stupid to think he could take over Europe in that short span of time and is as much to blame for the dearth of Europe as the Soviets JD Marcists he tried to stop.
>>69947052
Freedom of speech is a meme.
Anime posters on Trump general were tolerable and even fun but now every thread can have the first thirty posts be AWOO. It's gotten so fucking cancerous, doubly so in in rally threads.
>>69951073
Thats demonstrably false. Most middle eastern countries are a patchwork of smaller tribes and ethnic groups, many of which do not get along, or maintain separate identity. You don't know shit about what you're talking about.
Also, none of this changes the fact that you just claimed Israel's non-muslim identity isn't due to their status as an ethno-state, which you are supposedly against. You're out of your depth.
>>69951813
internet anonymity is also a meme and degenerate.
imo the only non degenerate form of internet communication would be some sort of holodeck that fully replicates person to person contact
>>69951056
What is the sensible alternative to capitalism?
>>69951854
if we didn't have freedom of speech we wouldn't be here, we would be in fucking jail for being mean.
>>69947052
/pol/ is a satirical board. No one here trully means what they're saying. We're supposed to be the edgiest of edgy contrarians here. Most of us here believe in compassion and human dignity.
But again, were on /pol/ were supposed to behave like angry sheltered children.
>>69951825
This senpai, it makes it so any meaningful discussion is impossible. Shit like that belongs on /b/ and I mean that in the best way possible, but it's not political discussion in the least to post anime girls in hats with no commentary.
I wouldn't even mind if they had a random cute anime, as long as they had something to say other than nothing or AWOO
>>69947052
asians and anime are fucking disgusting
>>69951961
of course, but it's a temporary crutch because of current fucked up society.
In an ideal society where the state actually cares for the citizens the internet shouldn't exist outside of libraries and work/school mainframes
>>69951960
Corporatism
>>69951461
100% true and I never said that there wasn't anything wrong with it, just that it caused a lot of problems; not necessarily with the colonial power itself and the annexed/puppet state, but problems relating to ethnic, cultural, tribal, and religious divisions that it caused internally within these states.
>>69951668
I guess you can say that
>>69951960
capitalism with restrictions like we have now in america.
remember, if we didn't have government restrictions cars wouldn't have seatbelts. Companies will fight tooth and nail for the preservations of their profits
>>69947427
Good post
- suspend federal subsidized loans to citizens and businesses
- authorize federal seizure of assets if taxes and old debts not paid
- reduce fed spending on social welfare programs and over 10-20 years cut all non-military spending
- get gov't out of marriage in a number of different ways
>>69952212
I think that's a pretty common moderate-right /pol/ opinion.
>>69948881
Well, assuming what you said is true, which it pretty much is, that's even WORSE. I cannot even describe how much I see sluts and whores defended on the Internet and in mainstream society. It's basically over at this point. No guy wants to deal with all the hate he will get for being anti-slut/whore.
I also see no evidence that women hate sluts and whores, or that women are into "slut shaming". I don't deny your experiences, it's just that I've always seen women cheer other women on when they are being degenerate. "You go girl!" and shit like that. They facilitate each other's degenerate activities.
>>69951963
>/pol/ is a satirical board. No one here trully means what they're saying.
i hate this meme, i believe what i say. Just because there are some trolls and shitposters doesn't mean you should dismiss my beliefs as a joke.
Fuck you for acting superior than everyone
>>69947052
Private prisons in America are a way to enslave black people and make them work for free. You lobby for a strict laws and then put everyone in jails and make them work. Thanks to that you don't have to pay them decent wage. Soon all Americans from lower class will be in jail.
>>69952125
>In an ideal society where the state actually cares for the citizens
unrealistic expectations you mean?
>>69951981
It is the problem with generals in general, when something is HAPPENING it's great and convenient (though typically the board will then flood so it's irrelevant). When nothing is happening like just prior the last rally the generals become nothing but shilling and shitposts, the anime posters turn the thread into an image dump with shit everybody has seen hundreds of times like clockwork. It kills discussion and whats worse is that telling these autists to keep it to the first 5 posts derails the thread something fierce.
>>69947052
I don't really hate gays
Some muslims are alright
Some blacks are cool, even the urban ones. Not all of them are really behind the robbing and street culture because they've seen it destroy lives.
Don't care about weed personally but I hate that so many people act like faggots about it
Japan is cool but I hate weebs, they just have cool mountains and I like that they do weird shit
Race doesn't exist like /pol/ thinks it does but it does exist to a certain degree in terms of haploid groups
>>69951813
Your own government doesn't believe it's an inviolable right.
See McCarthyism, Trump saying no to muslims and Hulk Hogan x Gawker. Not one of them is bad and not one of them is based on freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech is mostly used to subvert and control a group of people through ideology. Literally a meme.
There should be separation between church and state, however church's should be able to lobby but all government benefits and tax breaks should be stopped. If people like their churches they'll donate to keep it afloat, it isn't the government's job to do so.
>>69951963
>/pol/ is one person
>>69952305
>I believe in what I'm saying.
No you don't. I bet you 5 million dollars that you don't call every black person that interacts with you a nigger. I bet you 10 million dollars you don't openly treat him as a lesser human being.
You don't trully believe in what you're saying here
a transformation in the means of production similar to the emergence of capitalism and the industrial revolution will come to replace capitalism, which in turn will lead to political revolutions
all human beings are equal in their dignity
jesus is lord, and God won't recognize you as one of his own if you fail to love your neighbor/enemy
>>69951963
A lot of people believe what they say here. Of course there are some trolls and shills, there are everywhere.
college is worth the money if you do it right
there is no such thing as the college indoctrination - the people who come out very liberal were already disposed to becoming liberal
raising taxes on the rich in the US won't cause them to leave - there's no other country that offers the same business opportunities, quality of workers, quality of living, and raising taxes would bring us up to pace with the rest of developed countries meaning there's no where to go
>>69952346
Private prisons shouldn't even be a thing
>>69947052
jet fuel can melt steel beams
>>69950450
>sex is not degenerate
>if they're doing it excessively they have stigma and STDs to look forward to.
Would you at least agree that indiscriminate and excessive sex is degenerate? (or, ill-fitted to a productive and virtuous society, if you don't like the word degenerate)
The problem is, that those consequences like "stigma" are not real consequences once the degeneracy of promiscuity is sugar-coated (for either sex). STDs become par-for-the-course too, and without the clear vision that sex outside of marriage (and ideally, outside of the procreative intention) is a waste of resources and engenders frivolity in a society, you end up with the modern slut-condoning culture of today.
What I'm trying to say is, it's not the self-correcting/regulating system you've framed it to be. It (sexual desire and recreation) is more like a fire that grows by throwing fuel on it (fulfilling said desire with recreational sex).
>it's why we're all here
We are all here because of procreative sex, not recreational sex.
>masturbation is a necessity, not degenerate. Without masturbation this whole site would be filled with blueballed rapists
I'm actually sympathetic to this, but I think that sugar-coating the practice as something "necessary" lends itself to people taking it to extremes in a manner similar to the extremes of promiscuity mentioned above. I think as an ideal, people should try to be masturbation-free, don't you?
Nothing is gained by masturbation. The only reasons why pro-masturbation rhetoric (and pro-recreational-sex rhetoric for that matter) is shilled so hard on the internet is literally "muh dick" type arguments.
>>69949750
>>Distributism is the only way for conservatives to move forward in today's world since it promotes family, faith, and community and is anti-usury.
I fully agree. Have you read Chesterton?
Abortion is a good thing.
>>69952143
That's what Anerica already has though.
>>69952394
yeah you're literally retarded
>gawker
>you should be able to share a private sex tape against one's wishes
no m8, we also have a right to privacy
>Trump saying no to Muslims
>non-americans
>having American rights
fuck outta here
>McCarthyism
declared unconstitutional
>>69952555
>there is no such thing as the college indoctrination - the people who come out very liberal were already disposed to becoming liberal
this, people who are already liberal just have their bullshit enforced, people who are not are flat out revolted.
>>69952580
Ask Donald Trump what he thinks about them.
This shit doesn't fly outside of USA, it's kind of your problem.
>>69947389
One thing is that you have no problem with some degenerates pushing things up their assholes and another completely different things is that the media and culture promotes this kind of degeneracy.
10 years ago transsexuals were taboo, now they're heroes, they are pushing this.
It would be fine to raise a flat tax on the rich so long as the money is actually used effectively.
So much money is fucking wasted in a huge sea of bureaucracy that it's understandable why you would want to keep your money knowing it's not coming back as a good investment.
>>69952294
>I also see no evidence that women hate sluts and whores, or that women are into "slut shaming".
Here's a very shitty article about it by slate http://pastebin.com/rkeZPzuk
What you're seeing though is true, but it's from a more vocal set of women. As you say, no guy want to deal with the hate for being anti-whore, and neither do any women. But what your seeing is also becoming more of the norm too, unfortunately.
>>69949042
Rare
>>69952695
No it's not. We have Plutocratic crony Capitalism. Corporatism is basically the quasi-socialist system the the Nordic countries have in place.
>>69952495
>No you don't. I bet you 5 million dollars that you don't call every black person that interacts with you a nigger. I bet you 10 million dollars you don't openly treat him as a lesser human being.
strawman as fuck, kill yourself. I DO believe what i say on this board
>>69952634
>Chesterton?
a genius. but you can't love chesterton without loving dorothy day
Antisemitism is a red herring used by power brokers to divert the attention onto the Jews.
>>69947052
Trump would be an awful president.
Still gonna vote for him.
>>69947389
Huge projection right here
>>69952555
>there is no such thing as the college indoctrination
i dont believe this, every day in college theres always some liberal belief being promoted. Republicans are trashed daily
>>69947588
>I've never touched a woman in my life
This quote is somewhat misinterpreted.
I understand fully that Bernie SAID the quote word-for-word, and the literal meaning is "whites can't be poor." I think the old fart just worded what he wanted to say very badly.
He was speaking in the context of race combined with poverty. I'm almost 100% sure he didn't mean "whites don't know what it's like to be poor," he meant "whites don't know what it's like to be poor AND black, and live in the ghetto as a poor black person." He's still full of shit and is bending over for black cocks, but he's not dumb enough to ignore all the poor white welfare moms he's getting votes from.
>>69952595
younger marriage needs to be brought back to fix this problem, and abolition of public school is the only way to get this to work again.
>>69951644
>not realizing there are Zionist Jews and Zionist Saudis who work together
>>69952710
Freedom of speech goes against right what happened to Hogan.
It's pure relativism.
But having more freedom of speech is miles better than censoring everything. What needs to be done is stopping hypocrisy. Freedom of speech isn't inviolable.
>>69953292
How is a sex tape considered speech though
Obscenity was never considered under the 1st amendment anyway until the kikes lobbied for it in the 60's.
>>69953184
it still doesn't work, because I know several people that are white, that are stuck in nigger ghettos, and instead of "da po po keepin me down"
they get targeted by niggers
it's just a whole shitshow
>>69952595
>Would you at least agree that indiscriminate and excessive sex is degenerate?
i implied that with the stigma and aids
>I think as an ideal, people should try to be masturbation-free, don't you?
sexual urges are natural, its primal to act on it by jerking off is natural.Of course that's not an excuse to fuck everything that walks.
Blue balls is an actual condition, and not jerking off is bad for your prostate. Jerking off excessively is definitely a problem but then again everything done excessively is a problem
>>69947052
Most /pol/acks would be left wing if it wasn't the group that encouraged the most degeneracy
>>69953114
>He will never have a woman stroke his hair while holding him down
>He will never be tickled so much by his gf that he falls out of his chair
>He will never shyly accept going out on dates she pays for
>He will never have a woman tell him that she's his boyfriend and he's the girlfriend
It must be hard to live like that senpai
>>69953292
Sex tape isn't free speech, and again
right to privacy, which Gawker infringed on.
>>69952180
Don't forget about child Labor laws
>>69953403
all of what you said would be irrelevant in a society where younger, swifter marriages were the norm instead of mixed-sex public schools which are the main breeding ground and context for the rest of the degeneracy that developed.
It's true most people in the past weren't super obsessed with not having sex but for the masses, they MARRIED EARLY and it was satisfied with the appropriate outlet.
I think the government should invest heavily in public transport and tech infrastructure
I think non-Muslim Asian migrants are mostly okay provided we get to select the ones we take
>>69947389
>any man who says there not at least a tiny bit attracted to other dudes occasionally is an insecure liar
The fuck?
Universal Suffrage was a mistake (Not a race or gender thing, but you should be at least average intelligence, have served your country and not broke to be able to vote)
Electric cars and renewable energies are a good thing (Seriously, the amount of big oil shilling that goes on here is insane for people who hate Jews and the Saudis)
Americas Healthcare and College systems are very broken and badly need reform. That doesn't mean they need to be socialised, but acting like there is nothing wrong with them and that they're doing fine and only socialists believe otherwise is completely moronic.
>>69953276
I don't think the Jews or Zionists were behind it. Then again this is an unpopular opinion thread.
>>69953543
If regulated to prevent unsafe conditions, child labor would be infinitely better than useless modern schooling.
Especially if it's trade or farm labor rather than mindless factory work. The arrested development of 20th century society and onward is the result of treating the youth as incapable and then artifically creating a "teenager" class as a marketing demographic
>>69953357
>>69953519
Is freedom of speech different from freedom of expression?
What about calumny and difamation? Are there laws which prevent that? If so, it contradicts freedom o speech.
>>69953586
its a cultural thing, but recreational sex like one night stands are only popular between people who were already trash anyway.
And whores are always put in check, just look at any video where a black guy catches his girl fucking around. Most people aren't so accepting of whores, only really dumb people and sheltered people.
>>69947052
Slavery was bad.
Native Americans deserve recompense.
Race mixing is acceptable in the context of a genetically inferior white man mixing with a non-white woman in order to whiten other racial groups out of existence. Ideally the government would enforce their children being paired up only with other half-breeds.
I enjoy rap music.
>>69953828
it's true that only trash continue to have casual sex throughout their 20s and up, but it's been normalized for teenagers to have premarital sex, in fact the school system has RITUALIZED it via things like prom night.
>>69953764
children need to learn so they can get skills, maybe a part time job sweeping or something simple but children shouldn't be working full time.
I believe in a strong welfare state, i.e. universal health care, well-funded public schools, an unemployment safety net
But I recognise that such a system is only possible in a healthy market economy and with tightly controlled immigration
>>69953893
>slavery was bad
that's unpopular? Slavery is fucking retarded and the fact it's still being practiced today is disgusting.
>Native Americans deserve recompense.
they already get that, what else could we possibly give them?
>I enjoy rap music.
gross
>>69953924
this is more cultural than anything, in Eastern countries and developing countries this isn't really a problem.
people are too comfortable in the first world, it's why they act out.
also teenagers are at the height of hormone development so that contributes to it
>>69953403
>i implied that with the stigma and aids
Right, but the problem comes about where to draw the line. Recreational sex is a soritical predicate where you have to set up arbitrary distinctions for where the line is crossed. Are 2 pre-marital partners too much? Why not 5? Why not 50?
Also it should be considered that the pair-bonding abilities of the human body diminish with every new sexual partner, inherently making any pre-marital sex sub-optimal.
I see where you're coming from, with a view of pragmatism, but in terms of calling a spade a spade, I'm at a loss on how you can justify pre-marital sex of having any place in a virtuous/non-frivolous society. And if you're going to ask "who defines what is virtuous," might as well get rid of the concept of marriage and monogamy and call 2016 a paradise on earth.
Not trying to be mean, just taking the argument to a bit of an extreme to show where I'm coming from.
>Blue balls is an actual condition
I thought it only happens when arousal is not brought to term through orgasm. What if you just don't get aroused by abstaining from mixing with women and abstaining from pornography?
>not jerking off is bad for your prostate
Again, isn't this only if you're still indulging arousal? Pretty sure your prostate will be just fine if you're just working/living and not getting aroused and not masturbating as a result of not getting aroused. Could be wrong about this though, not very knowledgeable about prostate health issues.
>>69947052
Hitler was retard and lost the war.
>>69947588
This is just a cuckish view to hold.
>>69947052
Donald Trump is a massive attention seeking faggot
Its not enough he puts his name on all his tacky hotels and casinos, so he had to get his own show and fire people on tv, and judge beauty contests, and that wasnt enough so now he's spending his inheritance running for president.
Seriously, if he didn't get all that money from his dad, he'd just be that asshole that bought a really big truck and tries to start shit at the bar
>>69947389
Faggot.
>>69947517
>>69947588
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>>69954161
Invade Russia in winter....... wow
I also hate socialism
>>69953893
>Race mixing is acceptable in the context of a genetically inferior white man mixing with a non-white woman in order to whiten other racial groups
Finally someone gets it. Whites shouldn't cuck themselves from conquering out races and eliminating rival genes.
>>69954256
Get the fuck out
This is too fucking Far
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>>69953184
It is also classic Democrat race-baiting which has so turned the country against itself, the biggest problem is that the key unifier of Nationalism which can get multiple ethnic group to feel a sense of shared connection and purpose is being demonized and eschewed in favor of extremely vague "diversity", which means fuck all and just divides the country from one people with shared purpose to multiple peoples with "celebrated differences" that can never be overcome or shared unless you are born into them.
>>69954090
the "Teenage" years are when pair bonding for life is supposed to occur, but the school system and career obsession prevents it.
If 16-18 year olds were expected to get married (with exception of military or those who are skilled enough to pursue higher academics / religious callings), NONE of this sexual obsession would be common at all. Most people aren't like monks and never were, but they had their sexuality completely fulfilled by a young spouse, with both husband and wife being virgins.
You cannot trust the government. Sprawl comprises everything.
The government should be curtailed beyond just welfare for those you dislike.
>massively reduce military size and expenditure
>massively reduce involvement in foreign affairs
>slash size/powers/abilities of CIA/NSA/FBI
>capital punishment is finished
>abolishement of gun laws
>drugs legalized: the government's place isn't making judgement calls about what one does to one's self
Basic functions of government should be general pursuit of happiness freedoms: world class roads, public transportation, internet, schools, healthcare (yeah I went there), trade schools, consumer protection from scams and misleading products, employee protection from bad faith actions from employers
All of those are possible even after reducing taxation by 30% if you eliminate the superfluous arms of government and eliminate the swollen masses of bureaucracy
I don't like free speech.
I don't like the concept of rights.
I don't believe in a god.
Transgenders are fine; it's a condition which is best treated by transitioning to the desired gender, thus curing the gender dysphoria.
People like to pretend that their hatred of transgenders is based on some genuine concern about X and Y chromosomes, but let's be honest, that's 100% bullshit. It's completely unjustifiable bigotry, and I say that as a right-winger.
>>69954447
>I don't like free speech.
>I don't like the concept of rights.
so you're retarded?
>>69954523
said system could work but adding forced Atheism to the mix is a horrible idea
>>69947947
>Jews rule the world because they're smarter than everyone else
I would argue they're the most well-organized, not the smartest.
>>69954600
I agree with a fucking leaf
>>69947052
The State of California would save $1,000,000,000 over the period of 5 years by stopping the death penalty and instead putting them away from life.
Since the start of the death penalty, more than 130 people have been later found not guilty and freed. They were gonna die by state, yo.
>>69954447
>I don't like free speech.
Kill yourself
>I don't like the concept of rights.
Get fucked in the ass by the Government
>I don't believe in a god.
Go to hell
2/10 B8 Australia
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- Liberals aren't idiots or bad people and blaming an entire political affiliation for your problems, or your countries problems is ignorant
- Trump's economic, and foreign policy are questionable at best
- Attributing the radical left's/SJW's beliefs to the majority of the democratic voting base is a strawman and should be ignored
- Trump's wall will never get built, and Mexico will never pay for it
- Illegal immigration from Mexico is more of a voting platform than an actual problem and in some ways provides economic benefit
- It doesn't matter how many sexual partners a person has unless they have an STD
- Socialized Medicine and education are a good thing if done properly
- A good majority of /pol/ likes to jump to conclusions when posting statistics without understanding the underlying reasons for those statistics
>>69954523
Of course a yankee would say that. You faggots are indoctrinated with liberalism from birth.
>>69947389
>any man who says there not at least a tiny bit attracted to other dudes occasionally is an insecure liar
projecting hard man
are you afraid that you are slightly attracted to dicks? the sight of dicks makes mine shrivel, while I fine pussies are absolutely fine. why are your type so afraid of the pleasure hole?
>>69954600
Nothing but a band of thieves and bandits.
>>69947994
This! He's a male fag version of Ann Coulter trying to be controversial and seem sophisticated to garner attention to himself. >Narcissistic manchild.
I am against abortion totally unless the mothers life is in direct danger or the mother is under 15 years.
Strangely enough I am for Euthanasia so long as the family and patient consent to spare unneeded pain.
>>69954721
Fuck off, liberal. This is a fascist board now. Dumb Americunts.
Affirmative action is extremely helpful to our society and does a lot of good.
White nationalism is retarded.
If you want to be a real nationalist then do one of two things:
A) Reconnect with your ancestral country and seek out the Nationalist party there. Become a nationalist for them.
B) If you insist upon being a nationalist in America or Australia then become a localist and don't focus on whiteness but do not forget your European roots.
Such as here in America, if you are from the NorthWest then become a Cascadian Nationalist, or if you are in Appalachia then become an Appalachian Nationalist.
>>69947052
Gays are fine, transexuality is OK so long as it isn't that Tumblr shit. See the case of David Reimer; it works both ways, gender is absolutely not a social construct, transsexuality IS a disorder but we can't really cure it, so what we're currently doing, giving them sex-change operations, is the best way forward. Same for gays; it's a disorder, but we can't cure it.
Donald Trump has the right idea but the man himself is unfit to be president - that said, there's no real better candidate
People of all races are generally very similar and the main differences are down to culture and background - for instance, are you really going to tell me that Asians are genetically predisposed to be hard working? Fact is, Africa was a land of shit and sand due to lack of good domesticable animals, poor land, and no real good natural resources, then the landgrab from the European nations, then the poor decisions of their governments, then the poor decisions of their governments after the whites left, and now they're poor and impoverished. It doesn't help that western charities are killing local textiles and generally letting them live off of handouts.
When it comes to the stereotype of stupid blacks in America, it can generally be pinned down to their parents and surroundings; blacks have reached high positions of power and there are intelligent blacks, the same way that there are plenty of stupid whites - for instance, the white guilt cucks.
Same goes for the slavs - they got pretty far, see the USSR, but poor systemic management and shit leadership fucked them all over. Slavs are clearly not too stupid to operate, they did get men into space, Putin is a shit president and is fucking over Russia, which also suffers from huge alcoholism problems.
Asians are the same - you'll get plenty of dumb Koreans and Japanese, it's all about culture and the culture of the East dictates that one should be studious and hard working. [spoiler]I should know, I am one.[/spoiler]
>>69954252
How is it cuck? I didn't say I would ever let her cheat on me. If anything, if you look at it from a psychological point of view, you're less likely to get cucked if the other person puts a lot of effort into the relationship, which tends to be the case for the one in the dominant role of a relationship.
>>69953212
And ending women's suffrage, and regulating the amount of women that can enter the workforce. I see where you're coming from, but it seems like we would just have to turn back the clock, and the current system is just not built to accommodate the change you described. Too bad :/
Technology is probably at the root of this issue too. I think maybe schooling and stuff can be kept if degenerate media propagation could be checked somehow (impossible with readily available internet everywhere).
>>69953586
Early marriage is good, and ARRANGED marriage is key, imho. You see lots of early marriage in today's society, and while the failure of said marriages could easily be contributed to degenerate media influences, I think another factor is the lack of societal support/framework for said marriages. Also, arranged marriages usually ensure that the the new couple will have adequate means, at least commensurate to their lifestyle, as it used to be more of a contract between families.
>>69953924
>it's been normalized for teenagers to have premarital sex, in fact the school system has RITUALIZED it via things like prom night.
Damn, that's fucked up. Never thought of it like that...
>>69954090
>people are too comfortable in the first world, it's why they act out.
TRUTH. Frivolity occurs when the natural feedback mechanisms are dampened due to social conceits or material abundance. I imagine that promiscuity in teenage years is not as big an issue in developing countries (if in fact that is true) because the kids are involved in some form of physical effort or another and they are just not as energetic and presented with as much unsupervised free-time as American teens.
>>69947052
There's literally nothing wrong with being Jewish.
>>69947052
I support Israel and I think Jews and Christians are facing much of the same degeneracy problems destroying our cultures and we need to work as allies to defend ourselves from violent followers of Allahs satanic cult.
>>69947052
Religion is degenerate
Alcohol is degenerate
Weed is degenerate
>>69948297
US should have allied with Hitler and not Churchill.
Now go do your job and find someone in illegal possession of a butter knife and arrest them.
>>69954781
>A good majority of /pol/ likes to jump to conclusions when posting statistics without understanding the underlying reasons for those statistics
>Goy even if the numbers say something it's not true
>You must think with your heart not your head
>It's not niggers fault they kill people disproportionately, even compared to poor people in general
>Numbers mean nothing
>It was real in my head
>>69954501
I just hate the "LOOK AT ME MY LIFE IS SO HARD YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HARD I HAVE IT I NEED MY OWN PRIVATE BATHROOM".
Otherwise do what you like, it's your life to ruin. But don't ask for the faculty to build your own private bathroom for your private pronoun you dumb shit.
I can trace 90% of the hatred on /pol/ for minorities as stemming from the attention seeking controversy planting tabloid journalism and people that destroy lives on gaffes and nothings.
>>69954760
That's pretty adorable desu senpai
>>69954827
But only an Anglo (or perhaps Frog) would push atheism
>>69954139
if you're a guy you should look into testicular and prostate cancer since its the most common cancer to men.
the line is when the person doesn't want to say how many partners they had, surefire way to tell if they're a whore. History matters, that's why you check before buying a used car.
>What if you just don't get aroused by abstaining from mixing with women and abstaining from pornography?
hormones dont work like that, although every man is different. A lot of guys who go cold turkey obsess about the female form because they haven't indulged. Purely out of instinct.
oh shit my bad it's actually in fact the oppisite. Except when your in your 50's
http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20090127/masturbation-and-prostate-cancer-risk
>>69955273
Sorry, but there's no evidence for your god.
>>69954392
this is a cultural thing, and religion doesn't cut it anymore. Premarital sex can't be resolved so easily now, it's ingrained.
>>69954392
You correctly note that career obsession precludes the ideal of:
>they had their sexuality completely fulfilled by a young spouse, with both husband and wife being virgins.
But how do we overcome this in the modern age? The complexity of technology almost necessitates that people go through a super long incubation phase to learn all of the prerequisites to be able to competently interact and develop technology.
I ask because I've definitely missed the boat on the ideal at 24, but I couldn't have learned everything I needed to be an engineer by age 16. Maybe the apprenticeship system would work with early marriages, but I'm not sure how common it was for those whose marriages were arranged early (and ostensibly started popping out kids early) to be engaged in education into their early 20s like engineers need to be.
Almost seems like turning back the clock and going back to an agrarian lifestyle would be the only option for people interested in saving the moral character of their society, or at the very least their family or selves.
>>69955079
I sound like a bitter nerd (and I guess I am) but it's true.
High school prom is literally a state-sponsored anti-marriage ceremony
>>69947052
Israel is an awesome country.
I hate that the USA caters to them so much. I hate pro Israel shill politicians.
But Israel itself is legit as fuck. They are a model for how we should be handling our border security. With overwhelming force.
>>69954987
>Gays are fine, transexuality is OK so long as it isn't that Tumblr shit
It will always be that tumblr shit. They have a fucking problem, that's why they're gay in the first place. The rest will fall in line naturally.
>>69955220
Even if you took the most rudimentary statistics class, one of the first things they teach you is "Lying with statistics".
Reminder that Statistics are just numbers, and the conclusions you draw from them based on other factors and data are far more important.
>>69954987
This.
Almost all our problems between the races in multicultural societies is a failure to assimilate and integrate, whats worse is this is being heralded as a virtue rather than the dissolving solution for the glue that binds society.
If I ever decide to move to China, I would raise my kids Chinese so they fit in. Same goes if I move to America or Germany etc. I won't do that because I love my culture too much and don't want it to change nor should I impose it on other people in their nations.
Cultural Marxism is fucking cancer, not all cultures are equal, not all cultures are compatible. Stop trying to force the square in the triangle hole and turn yourself into a triangle.
>>69955399
Yes there is
>>69955265
>desu senpai
I have a feeling you didn't write that, it was normie tier-shit that oozed from your keyboard.
gtfo, dipshit
>>69955283
>http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20090127/masturbation-and-prostate-cancer-risk
Thanks for the link! I appreciate that you are open to the facts even if they don't support your initial premise, something you don't see a lot of on the internet lol.
I get your point about every man being different. I recognize that my sex drive is a lot lower than that of my peers, but I do think that my peers aren't helping their case by constantly indulging it and thereby training their bodies to expect it (if that makes sense).
>the line is when the person doesn't want to say how many partners they had
What do you think about the pair-bonding stuff mentioned in >>69954392 ? Does having multiple partners make you less able to truly bond as closely with successive partners, in your experience? (I'm assuming you have that experience, since you're defending the position)
Do you think it'll affect the quality of partner you do settle down with (in that you probably won't attract a conservative virgin to settle down with if you've had a lot of pre-marital sex? Just curious at this point, I appreciate you sticking around for the discussion :)
>>69955719
Like what?
>>69955714
If they integrate then it is monocultural, not multicultural.
>>69955119
I like that painting, what is it
>>69955843
The fact that life exists isn't enough proof for you?
>>69955667
ever heard of gay republicans, gays can keep to themselves.
anyone who defines themselves by one thing and express it obnoxiously are obviously in the wrong.
>>69955455
If compulsory schooling were completely done away with, there would still be engineers and such but in smaller numbers, and most people could be farmers or craftsmen
there's still the inevitable conflict that comes with automation though.
And any solution to that would basically involve putting the lower classes on a treadmill of artificial scarcity and low technology while the elite use it, which is a VERY slippery slope and would end up leading to a decadant and irresponsible aristocacy.... then eventually something like the French Revolution
honestly it's a fucking cycle that eats itself over and over again
>>69955701
Crime stats aren't just numbers though, one of the ways "lying with statistics" works is by doing it based off of sample sizes, however the crimes stats are the total amount of crime in the US, not a small amount. The other big way of lying is with charts, but 13% isn't a chart, it's a hard real thing, not something that can be misread.
>>69947052
-Classes exist
-Class conflicts do happen
Funny thing is almost always I'm accused of being a Communist. Which is very funny, because I would say I'm upper middle class (parents own Steel factory but I'm no Vanderbilt) and all I'm saying is that my interests are not the same as the workers in the factory and they usually come into conflict with them.
I applaud the American Ruling class that convinced the public that workers at the assembly line and ultra rich never have conflicting interests.
>>69955793
I wrote t-b-h f-a-m
Global warming is real
>>69956024
exactly. kill yourself.
>>69947052
I support the legalization of cannabis and I have nothing against gay people.
>>69955950
>Classes exist
>Class conflicts do happen
Who denies this?
>>69955896
Are you retarded?
>>69955834
I'm the autist engineer guy who's had one relationship with the Indian ex, and has struggled with porn since the breakup.
I'd say multiple partners would be even worse, but porn is almost the same thing mentally and even an ex porn addict virgin is possibly ruined forever. It's the FIRST use that's the most damaging if before the real thing.
>>69956072
Why so mad?
I believe the purpose of a government is to serve and protect its constituents by means of security, financial aid, and infrastructure.
>>69956147
No, I'm not an atheist
>>69955950
This show had a lot to say about drinking
>>69955834
i dont think people can be defined so easily. Its obviously true that a girl with like 10+ partners in the past could be loose, but that girl could be everything you wished for in a lady, so i dont know.
pair-bonding is true to an extent and should be considered as a factor as to whether or not you choose your partner but dont let it control what you think about that person.
every person's different, I'm not saying you should tolerate whores but some people will and they will either be happy together or divorce, but either take a chance or stay within your confines.
>>69956174
but of course I'm speaking out of inexperience.
And even with the porn I still have intense memories and fantasies of my ex all the time and feel like it was imprinted on me. But I'm also literally autistic.
>>69956268
Do you have any concrete evidence for the god your worship?
>>69955892
Just some random painting, not by anyone relevant.
>>69951825
This so much. I used to enjoy talking about Trump on here but now everything is fucking anime pictures in hats.
>>69948443
he's running against shillary or feeltheBern. I'd say his chances are pretty good.
>>69955843
That's the point I am making m8, multiculturalism is a failure, or at the very least needs major revision to say - no, not all cultures have equal values and putting them into close succession won't guarantee harmony.
You can see this when you compare Muslim immigration to Asian, Muslims fuck shit up and form their own political party in Australia with the obvious goal of shilling for their interests.
Asians don't vote on racial lines though, whilst the parents still have strong foreign accents their kids speak Strayan clearly, the systems working.
The need to bend to every minorities wish will eventually find itself between the Westminster System to treat everyone equally under the law and Sharia to treat Muslims by their own laws, incompatible.
any racial crime being promoted or shown in the media is something to just keep the people distracted.
the real problem is the actual elites tiptoeing between one monopoly to the next.
>>69956144
Plenty here, there's a reason I had to say I'm not a communist and imply my background. I was accused of being a commie/hating the rich more than once when I said those two things here.
>>69956312
Probably due to the drinking culture they have there.
i don't think christianity is more logical than atheism/deism/agnosticism and I don't think it leads to better morals or living
i don't think legalizing abortion is a good thing
banning homosexuality in no way is congruent with free thought and small government
trump is a very meme-y news story that just keeps going on. he won't win the white house (probably not even the nomination) and it's going to be awkward and funny because then I get to come on /pol/ in November and say I called this from the beginning
but whatever. what do i know?
>>69955583
>High school prom is literally a state-sponsored anti-marriage ceremony
Yeah, it's just something I never gave much thought to at the time as I guess I had bought into the whole liberal fornication-condoning culture in HS (and probably would have indulged if presented the opportunity), and never really thought about it since.
Now that I am presented the opportunity fairly regularly, it sickens/saddens me whenever I feel that physical pull to indulge in it, as I know now that it is so dissonant with the values and ideals I seek to cement in my psyche/life.
I feel very blessed in many ways to have had a low sex appeal in the days before the red-pill, though I could do without the negative effects of low-test and how it shapes the way you look at the world (as something to be subservient to, with a great deal of risk-aversion).
I think people like me would benefit from a revival of asceticism culture, but such a culture is just not compatible with the career/money driven values that modern society has. Even in places like India true asceticism/monasticism is becoming rare, and people pursue spiritual/scriptural fulfillment as a profession of sorts... I think the only place where one could say the culture thrives is in Israel, probably because they have enough money to support those who pursue that path, and enough sense to recognize the vital nature of such a life-path, and the need to make that life-path available to the percentage of the population with this peculiar make-up.
Sorry for the rant haha. Just thought you might be able to relate.
>>69956324
I know my parents had about 2-3 partners each in college before marrying and they've been married happily for life. But this is definitely not the norm, I've known plenty of other people who grew up with me who had horrible washed-out hippie broken families.
>>69956251
basic income is the worst thing to do to a population, it hinders innovation and promotes laziness.
>>69956268
Thinking that our existence also implies the existence of a super-being in our own image is as bronze age as it gets. You think like a caveman.
Grow up. The answers to life's questions aren't in the incoherent, mistranslated ramblings of cattle sacrificing primitives.
Literal degeneracy.
>>69956595
every person's different. Can't really pinpoint human behavior
Gay people are not too bad and neither are trannies that pass.
Black people can be outstanding people, though in groups can they can be awful (this probably is a common opinion)
Anime is great.
Abortion is completely fine, it just shouldn't be done in excess.
Jewish people are overall good people, I cannot speak for the whole takeover of society thing but there are some pretty good jews out there.
Other than that, I mostly agree with /pol/ though. It's one of the only safe havens from the oncoming hoard of SJW heresy. Our primary enemy is the SJW culture, it does not matter what the background of the person is that helps us fight against this leftist bullshit. The SJWs could be white and blue eyed for all I care, I still would hate them for their culture.
Trannies, faggots, kinksters, bulldykes, and other degenerates are annoying but not an actual problem that needs to be fixed.
I'm anti-Islam, but I still feel bad for my Muslim classmates. Their future is not bright in this country.I feel like they were just born into a religion just like any other kid and now they're either brainwashed or stuck because of their families and cultures. It's very sad, and keeps me away from the "mudslime" ideology.
Black people are all right. Black culture is at least 85% terrible, but they have nice clothes, make good music sometimes, and have funny social media posts.
>>69956348
Pic related
>>69956634
This isn't reddit
>>69947052
>art is more important than STEM
>when robots replace you, i wont lend you money ;)
>>69956348
god is metaphysical, that's why you need faith.
early christian philosophers have already said something about god's existance and what it means.
>>69955942
For example if you wanted to throw out that Blacks commit more crimes than whites, you have to look at the underlying factors such as blacks being more likely to live in ghettos and impoverished communities, the cultural stigma in those communities, and the likeliness of the police to not only target, but arrest blacks over whites for various crimes.
I'm not here to start an argument on crime, just how conclusions from statistics can be manipulated.
There are many other issues when using statistics to prove a point than simply sample size or how they are displayed.
>>69956356
I just wanted to maybe get a print for my wall.....know the artist or paintings name?
>>69956665
I think it still impacted me in other ways, namely my autism was probably connected to being born when my mom was 33
but her parents were actually fairly conservative, and yet she was the 4th sibling and born when my grandmother was in here fucking 40's which is REALLY abnormal for boomers
>>69956772
Ok, so you worship a Sumerian god of war named Jehovah who had a Jewish son. Why is your own Semitic mythology evidence of your Sumerian god?
>Im fine with preachers being forced to preform gay weddings
>The only reason white people are christian is because it was forced on their ancestors and on them.
>The white race is not worth saving
>Feminism is just women seeking attention
>I have no problems with gays unless they fiddle around with children.
>>69956670
>Anime is great.
this really isn't unpopular. I can't get into anime, except for miyazaki, jin roh, LoGH, and stuff i watched as a kid.
most of it is really childish i think, their expressions aren't subtle at all and most fall into cliche's
>>69956634
Sadly we're not enlightened by our euphoria like you. Please show us simpletons the truth by making a logical and concise proof that there is no higher being of any sort, seeing as how religion is so clearly primitive and obviously stupid this should be easy.
Agnosticism is the only "logical" choice.
>>69956852
google reverse image search says Debra Hurd
>>69956356
Completely forgot the second half of my post.
I'm always disappointed in /pol/ art threads because you guys insist on spending 300 posts shitting on NON-DEGENERATE ART which is fucking stupid.
>>69956832
I think you mean supernatural, metaphysical doesn't mean beyond natural realms, it means related to the subject of metaphysics.
blacks are okay (in germany anyway)
jews are only as bad as the next person
women are humans
some refugees are actually just that
>>69956348
Yeah, those Christian folk get girls while Fedora tippers jerk off to Carl Sagan while being miserable.
>>69956527
You're missing that there will daily general threads about a conspiracy to block trump. This place will be /x/ for quite a while after his defeat.
>>69947052
I fucking hate the Irish more than any other sub-human and I'm a hardcore Ulster Loyalist and Nationalist and couldn't give a shit how many white countries die off, I only care about Ulster and Ulster alone
I also think that free market > socialism
race inst the issue, its the inferior cultures of the world causing troubles
>>69957208
Oh I also forgot to mention that I'd rather 100 hooligans and skinheads than 1,000 scrawny armed intellectuals and armchair warriors
>>69947052
Boipussy is a delicacy made to serve & be devoured by aggressive BWC.
>>69957094
>The term god is metaphysical is just an excuse because god likes to play his game of hide and seek
There is little evidence for an actual god since god has been hiding from us since we first evolved into the modern human.
>>69957026
A lot of anime is shit to be honest, and I'm a huge weeb who buy animu toys.
Japanese people tend not to understand subtlety and nuance. They're pretty much an autistic people and it shows in their works.
Almost no work shows a deeper understanding of the self and society, so it rarely has anything to say.
Top tier picks though, though Miyazaki is a little overrated.
>>69956174
Yeah I recognized your tone, I'm the EE who has eerily similar life-goals to you. Didn't want to call you out and ask because I thought it might get tiring and we all come here for anonymity.
I've struggled with chatting up girls on omegle and indulging in phone-sex with them, and multiple partners (even in such a removed field as phone-sex) does create impressions on your mind that are hard to shake. Absolutely degenerate and I'm fighting to cut that shit out of my life completely now.
At this point, I count even that stuff as a disqualification offence for marriage. I am almost tempted to not call myself a virgin anymore, because I feel like it crosses a line.
Porn I'm not so sure about, because I feel like it is something that I was able to forget (and "reboot" from) with enough time abstaining from it. But I can see how if it got to addiction level you might feel that a "line" of sorts was crossed there too.
>>69956324
>i dont think people can be defined so easily
>dont let it control what you think about that person
Thanks for the thoughtful response, man. It's easy to get caught up in absolutes on the internet, and while it's a challenge for some people to translate those absolutes into real-life interaction, for me it comes all too easily. It's nice to be reminded of this more liberal perspective.
>>69956862
>my autism was probably connected to being born when my mom was 33
im not sure about the science on that, but maybe. honestly i think autism and other social disorders are more environmental if anything.
my mother had me when she was 39 and i believe i'm perfectly fine excluding health diseases in the near future like diabetes and heart disease since that runs in my family
>>69947052
i once got in an argument with my ex and my mother because i said that i think there should be whore houses with child prostitutes.
i mean everything there should happen out of free will ofc and as most 13 year old are fucking already anyways, some of them might consider becoming hookers.
this would drastically reduce the rapes pedophiles commit.
>>69957136
Bullshit, he has a 96% chance of winning the election and all the old decrepit Hillary voters will kick the bucket before the election.
>>69957428
what the fuck is going on in this picture
>>69957428
my dick is confused with your pic
>>69957428
No Ahmed.
>>69957385
i dont even like evangelion, i think it's on par with Naruto and the philosophy is absolutely childish.
the EoE is 6-7/10 at best, the last two episodes are absolutely irredeemable
>>69956772
>I can't dispute your criticisms thus I dispel them memes and ad-hominem
Typical religion-cuk
>>69957478
>96%
Senpai, I want him to win too, but that number is not only way too high, but it doesn't even make sense, there's no way to get a good estimate right now of what will happen.
>>69947588
>>>/d/6760488
for you anon
>>69956832
>not questioning the idiocy is a virtue
>blind obedience is a virtue
>dispelling rational objections is elevating my consciousness
I hate you and everyone like you. Your thought process and cognitive dissonance fuels ISIS.
>>69957607
religion is pretty important to western society. Its responsible for the greatest nations and has wonderfully abundant philosophy
>>69956862
Do you notice that children born to older women are more likely to be autistic to some degree? For example, does your mom have any autistic traits?
Just collecting data, it's an interesting correlation. I was born when my mom was 30. Not left-handed though. Would be interested to hear other theories as to why you think you have autism.
I personally am of the opinion that maybe I was not a "late-bloomer" but was just not raised with a culture/inclination of physical activity, which stunted growth but caused somewhat abnormal mental development. But I'm actually thankful for this, because I would not have taken an interest in scriptures and virtues otherwise.
>>69957605
>absolutely irredeemable
I honestly think they're the best part of the entire series. That and the scene where kaworu dies. IMHO the show is pretty shit until half way through the show.
>>69957387
I've never had any real intimate talk/relationship (Even virtual) with anyone but my one ex. And I'm still debating whether to go to the extreme of disqualifying myself from marriage (and if there's any reason for that it's more due to my autism than just my past experience). I really should remember my parents had multiple partners and are happily married for 30+ years. Ultimately it depends on whether or not I can really deal with being alone my whole life, as of now my closest "friends" are longtime game streaming buddies from my livestream channel.
>>69957554
victim of mustard gas shower in a concentration camp, never forget the 6 quintillion
>>69957636
We'll see what happens.
>>69957777
nice quads but human beings aren't rational. i wish you could see the importance of religion, as a metaphor for a standard of behaving and how humans should interact.
>>69957607
Keep tipping your fedora, satan has infiltrated the minds of whites and it's leading to the destruction of our society and culture. When European people were devout Christians we ruled the world, now look at us. How can you say God isn't real? He is and he's punishing us for our degeneracy.
>>69957132
>Yeah, those Christian folk get girls while Fedora tippers jerk off to Carl Sagan while being miserable.
I'm not completely an atheist, but do you actually believe all that? It seems like your mind is polluted by Internet cesspools. Leave 4chan, 9gag, etc. for a while and go outside for some fresh air. Stop thinking in terms of angry memes and just learn to relax and enjoy life. Like another guy once told me, part of leaving the neckbeard life is not playing neckbeard games. A normal person is repelled by all the autism that floats around cesspools like 4chan. Lose your anger.
This is hilarious. You idiots are all being triggered lol
Obama was actually a much better president than I thought he would be.
Trump doesn't know shit. He's a good salesman surrounded by competent people.
There is no such thing as the "white/caucasian" race. It's a stupid invention by the English/americans. In fact, most of the races we refer to are social constructs. There are differences in genetics but people with a discourse based on race get them all wrong.
Most people are decent humans beings, including women, of course.
>>69957859
>IMHO the show is pretty shit until half way through the show.
the minute misato saw adam nailed to a crucific was the moment the show started getting good. its episode 12 i think which is pretty close to halfway over
>>69958091
>Most people are decent humans beings, including women, of course.
thats really optimistic, kind of naive i think
>>69957844
>>69957844
My mom is actually the LEAST mentally ill of any of her siblings oddly enough. Her siblings consist of:
my uncle, a bipolar lawyer who lives in his dead mother's house hoarding her possessions
My aunt, a former child piano prodigy who's now a librarian but has OCD and keeps every newspaper from the past 40 years stacked in her dining room (and has a daughter with compulsive eating problems and a son who's a gay failed actor living at home)
My other uncle who was a former hippie dropout who did a 360 to being a hardcore neocon Bush worshipper.
Honestly I'd say my mom though still a typical NY libtard, is the sanest person in her family, being an english teacher with no obvious mental disorders, who at least pressured me and my brother academically and disciplined a bit more than most people in my neighborhood did.
>>69957861
I guess in the end it really depends on whose standards are more important. I've noticed that when I mention the phone-sex stuff to girls they shake it off as if it's nothing and don't count it against me in the slightest, but that to me doesn't make it any better.
Like in your situation, I'm sure that girls would see your having only a single relationship before them as sweet and not at all a detriment, but that's just their standard, which (in my own personal worldview) doesn't hold much value as a metric.
But that's I guess the question: do you want to just have a good and happy relationship (in which the partner's metric is the only one of relevance) or do you want to be true to your own standards (in which case no external metric, except maybe scriptural, is of any relevance).
I would go for the former if it's still up in the air for you. I've chosen the latter and I am guaranteed monk-mode now (though I'm not bitter about it, it's actually comforting and gives me hope for redemption).
>>69958170
Don't have much to complain about, desu.
Most importantly, unlike many of you do seem to do here, even if I do not like the company of a person very much I have genuine respect for her.
>>69957876
RIPPERINO
>>69958348
I'd have to have a greater goal in life than just work and eventual self-sufficiency. Like something world-changing , and preferably something that involves teaching people to spiritually have children. I'm not sure that's really better for me than just settling down and having children.
>>69947052
Race mixing isn't so bad so long as the parents are decent.
Marriage as an institution is coming to an end because it makes poor business sense for men.
Pre-marital sex is alright if you aren't fucking everything in sight (read: moderation).
Religion is a tool for manipulating the ignorant masses.
Celestia is the best horse by far.
>>69958697
That's really, really hard. If you don't want to have statistical fate determining your life, go for the second option which is safer.
>>69958740
>Celestia
that's a funny way to spell twilight sparkle
>>69958604
I kek'd
>>69958460
>even if I do not like the company of a person very much I have genuine respect for her.
her or them? anyway you're a bigger man than i am, but it takes a lot for me to genuinely not like a person and to not stand their company.
>>69958697
Would personal spiritual fulfillment/catharsis not be sufficient for you? Arguably, it would be a prerequisite for:
>teaching people to spiritually have children.
I think if you seek that spiritual catharsis or fulfillment through study of the scriptures of your choice by yourself, you may find it to be enough, even through right now it doesn't seem like it could possibly fill the void you think needs filling.
Just something to think about... Also settling down and having kids isn't a super world-changing activity despite all it's made out to be. Just my thoughts, but I'm sure you've thought about it. It has the potential to be totally soul- and resourece- sucking if you're heart's not in it. Most normies are totally gung-ho and excited about having kids and don't look at it as the "settling" option (but rather as the primary option) which is why I think they can get fulfillment out of it.
>>69957042
>>>69956634 (You)
>Sadly we're not enlightened by our euphoria like you.
K, not an argument but.....okay
>Please show us simpletons the truth by making a logical and concise proof that there is no higher being of any sort
You're the one making the incredible claim. The onus is on you to come up with proof. The proof of a natural physics based universe is pretty sizeable- it's called science.
Spout as many euphoria/fedora/neckbeard/reddit maymays as makes you feel better but when societies have a strong current of innovation and science you get medicine, airplanes, the industrial revolution, space travel, personal communication, etc etc
When societies have a strong current of religion you get the dark ages and ISIS.
>seeing as how religion is so clearly primitive and obviously stupid this should be easy.
It is, your beliefs are absurd and stand up to no critical thinking at all.
>Agnosticism is the only "logical" choice.
I'm not the fence about your God the same way I'm not on the fence about Allah, thor, pantheism or any of the other primitive religions.
It's all shit professed by the weakminded.
