Does a musicians political beliefs change or influence your opinion on their music?
He was based as fuck
>>69933506
Yes he was.
Some what, I used to listen to a lot of Punk when I was younger which has a leftist slant and kind of lost interest but I still listen to Bad Religion once in a blue moon.
>>69933384
Yes
I used to listen reggae but my prejudices keep me away from that. And the fact i've some people related to that music and i fucking hate them.
>>69933384
After watching him embarrass himself repeatedly, time and time and time again for Sanders, I can no longer listen to Killer Mike and Run The Jewels.
No... why would it.
>>69933861
>listening to degenerate meme rap in the first place
>>69933384
not really. the value for music, for me, is in the resonance, beauty, aesthetics
harold bloom wrote about this, somewhat
he said part of the problem in academia and the arts these days is precisely putting social/political goals ahead of aesthetic ones
>>69933861
You serious?
Why don't you just shut yourself in a closet so you don't have to deal with differing opinions.
>>69933384
great man and musician
>>69934027
>look at me pol, I hate black culture! Do you like me yet pol?
>>69934125
His lyrics are BLM-tier in a lot of songs and him stumping hard for Sanders made me realize how fucking stupid that was
>>69933384
Dave McGowan Wierd Scenes From The Valley
Tldr
The government created pop music in order to influence young people
>>69934221
No man. Rap is just shit. There's no artistry there. I love old soul and r&b music however as well as some modern takes on the genre. Especially love the new Adrien Younge album.
Daily reminder that Zappa was redpilled as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWvufW-vNVQ
I would love to say it hasn't, but it absolutely has. I have basically cut rap out of my rotation, and can't stand any "socially conscious" shit anymore. I've found myself gravitating to jazzy shit, Chuck Mangione, Santana, etc. I also listen to a lot of instrumental stuff. Elegia by New Order sums up the kind of mood I've been in nicely
IIRC Zappa refused to promote pretty much any political believes, aside from fighting against censorship.
>>69933384
frank said "shut up and play yer guitar."
sage advice
I've been in other music threads in here, which are rare. And all end in the same thing.
NIGGERS and some idiot who actually belives that the only music worthy is this:
http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/arts/musreich.htm
>>69934879
>IIRC Zappa refused to promote pretty much any political believes
you joking m8? Basically all of You Are What You Is is anti-church anti-drugs anti-hollywood
>>69934879
In his private life he was very conservative, but he didn't believe in telling people how to live their life
A Business Lesson by Frank Zappa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWXUatVuxQg
I'm much less sympathetic to them and connect with the music less. But unless their lyrics promote some worldview I can't stand I still listen.
>>69933384
Not really. Roger Waters is an absolute dickhead but I still like his music.
Same goes for Gene Simmons. Don't know a bigger asshole in the music industry but KISS still rocks.
>>69935902
>KISS still rocks
>>69936335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmELf8DJAVY
tell me this doesn't get your foot tapping
No. I simply don't give a penny to the artists who have stupid political beliefs.
>>69933384
Have you read pic related?
>glam rock
>>69933384
As a lifelong musician, this is my stance:
>paying attention to the court-jester's political opinion
>>69933384
Beefheart>>zappa
Yes.
>>69937129
Yessir. Great stuff
>>69937275
Both are amazing leaf. I think beefhearts peaks are higher but Zappa had more great albums.
>>69937268
cont.
Also...
>all these zappafags
>>69935902
KISS was the band everyone listened to, but noone wanted to admit they listened to it
>find bretty gud sadcore band on youtube
>like one of their albums a lot
>see a picture of the band
>fucking degenerate faggots
>dropped like a rock
This is why I listen to classical.
>>69937421
Telecasters > Strats
>>69937459
No, retarded rednecks who smoked menthols listened to KISS
absolutely not, same goes with any profession, like chefs, if it tastes good then eat it, only when they inject their product with their beliefs does it become tainted
>>69937529
>oranges > apples
You fail at thinking
>>69937518
also the lyrics were shit too. they were too distorted to really understand and I never listen to the lyrics anyway.
>>69937562
And what do you listen to, bro?
>>69937529
Also, this whole thread reeks of >>plebbit jesuschrist
>>69937634
I would still rather eat oranges than apples bro
>>69933384
>huge huge huge zappa fan
>even currently reading a biography
>zappa was my beatles
>ask me anything
>>69937713
What music is >>4chan?
keep in mind that /mu/ has shit taste
>>69937529
>>69937634
Phantom guitars>>>'fendah'
>>69933384
My all time favorite musician and lyric writer shared an anti-Trump photo on instagram a couple weeks ago.
I was pretty disappointed. It hasn't made me dislike the band's music more, but I did unfollow his account.
>>69937790
Yea those guitars are very beautiful. Have great tone too. Never played one though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnjufR8GDcw
still relevant
>>69937677
>And what do you listen to, bro?
I'm a musician, I listen to stuff all the time. I don't load something up on an ipod and go to the gym and later claimed I listened to something at the gym. It's not a good question to ask me.
What's playing? Victor Wooten's new clinic. Earlier, something Jimmy Herring was doing. I "listened" to motorhead at the gym.
>>69937754
when did you realize captain beefheart was better, and the most important rock musician to walk this earth
who /deathinjune/ here?
>>69937790
Let me guess, this is what the post-post-post-ironic-post-hipsters like...
Listening to music in the first place is bluepilled as fuck, not to mention plebeian.
>>69937791
That blows. I don't necessarily care what a person believes but its like they don't think that posting something like that may alienate a part of their fan base. These people believe that every person who listens to their music believes the same thing or something.
>>69937983
Edgy
The only thing I've been listening to for the past month or so has basically been this.
>>69938015
u wot m8?
>>69937887
you don't sound pretentious at all mate
I'm sure you're a very nice person. Easy to talk to and share a drink with.
>>69933384
No, I like them for their musical skill not their political outlook.
>>69937983
nah senpai most of them use jaguars or mustangs now, im post post music
>>69938029
No, what's le edgy is fawning over an unplayable electrified ukelele from the 60s, going all tiptoeing through the tulips and shit.
You kids are so jewed up and spat out that you don't know up from fucking down.
I have 4 teles.
Yes. I love love LOVE Prog Rock/Metal but I've never listened to Pink Floyd because of what an astounding cunt Roger Waters is.
I understand he's going to have a little bit of a left-lean because he's a bong but for fucks sake he's almost as bad as John Lennon.
>>69937887
>victor Wooten
>jimmy herring
Ah you're one of those try hard hippie types that don't like anything new unless it sounds dated about 20-30 years. Widespread panic sucks dick man.
>>69938176
>jaguars or mustangs
So we're still on nirvana?
>>69933384
don't fool yourself, girl
it's going right up the poop
chute
rammmit
rammmit
rammmit
rammmit up da poop-chute
>>69938202
King crimson are British
>>69938235
Indeed they do, but that has nothing to do with a professional expanding his toolset.
What did you know about wooten or herring before googling their names just now? be honest.
>>69938235
What about the String Cheese Incident?
Also does a degenerate fanbase make an otherwise respectable band degenerate?
alice glass tweets shit about feminism and leftist stuff.
>>69938019
I mean, he's a drug experimenting hippy from the North Carolina mountains. It's obvious that he's a degenerate (probably what makes his lyrics), but entertainers should just stay away from politics unless they are extremely educated on the subject. Actors/musicians rarely are.
>>69938383
She looks like DIE CIS SCUM: The Musician.
Only if directly referenced in their music. If not, I usually don't care.
I try not to know anything about the artists who music I like
>>69937920
i enjoy beefheart, just prefer zappa more. the biography goes into the genesis of name "beefheart" and its so hysterical
>>69938365
I know that Wooten is a try hard that over uses harmonics and focuses on style over substance and herring is the John petrucci of jam bands. Trust me I knew a lot about them before you even mentioned them. When I lived in NC people had orgasms over these guys.
>>69933384
Not really. I try not to mix politics and music because nearly every musician is a leftist faggot of some sort.
>>69933623
Except I really do like the sound of ZSK, a German skatepunk band. It sucks that they have a song called Antifa and that they're antifa cucks, but I still like their songs.
>>69933384
I try to stay away from it. Zappa was an exception because he took it more seriously unlike many others. The guy was some sort of ambassador for a while before the Jews picked some lobbyist to take his place.
>>69938202
>but I've never listened to Pink Floyd because of what an astounding cunt Roger Waters is.
The final straw for me was Amused to Death. Still haven't listened to it all the way through. Shut up and play your bass.
>>69938246
if you look at the twee hipster music scene a lot of them use mustangs and jaguars look at burger records videos
>>69938552
I hate Victor Wooten. When I was in high school, all of my fellow musicians used to think his stuff was brilliant. It's just annoying, I hate his sense of melody.
Not a huge fan of bass music, but i love Evan Brewer's solo stuff.
>>69935902
Dude, Syd is a thousand times better than Rog
>>69938681
but Syd is dead and wasn't even part of the band past the first few years
apples and oranges
>>69938647
>burger records
Most hipsters I know hate burger
>>69938552
>>69938671
>hates vic wooten
opinion discarded, thread abandoned
Looks like you've got some growing up to do, friendo.
>>69938842
his chunky black poo fingers were made for bass slappin
don't know what the fucks up with his brother though
>>69937421
>he uses single coils
Ex-touring musician here.
I used to play guitar for a technical metal/deathcore/whatever band. If you all knew how fucking gay most musicians are, you would never listen to the majority of music again.
The only genre that is not filled with tumblr SJWs is bluegrass and classical music.
>>69938791
than theyre not really hipsters, majority of hipsters are of the burger prototype
>>69938842
Les Claypool > Victor Wooten
fucking Colin Greenwood is better than Wooten.
>>69933506
>>69933562
Amen.
>>69938681
He was but he fucked himself up hard and produced the bare minimum. The albums and songs he inspired (Wish You Were Here, the Wall, and The Final Cut (song) ) were much better than he actually performed
>>69938993
les is god, but
>bass player of the year
>every year
>>69934388
Came here to post this
>>69938915
>>he uses single coils
>he's stuck in 2013
>>69938993
James jamerson>>les>>victor
>>69934388
It's hilarious that one of the only conservative metal musicians in Dave Mustaine.
His career is so weird. Has anybody seen his orchestra performance? It pretty much became a meme within the classical guitar community
>>69933384
It influences my opinion on the artist. If I like the music, and the music is good, I'll listen to it. Plenty of artists out there who go on coke binges or do terrible things to themselves and others. I don't have to respect them as a person to enjoy what they've created.
>>69939101
For professional bassists, there's a line that extends from Jaco to Wooten, and it's unbroken.
>muh les
fun guy, quirky guy who brought something new to the table. does he innovate every year and give bassists a reason to wake up in the morning? No.
>>69933384
No. If I like the sound I like the sound. I couldn't care less what "message" or whatever the lyrics I don't care about are trying or not trying to convey.
>>69938383
But on the other hand she's isn't a musician. Just a Cluster B female screaming in to a microphone.
>>69933384
Only if they include it in their lyrics, and then it's just that I can't listen to it without thinking about politics.
>>69938931
>The only genre that is not filled with tumblr SJWs is bluegrass and classical music.
Speaking of which isn't the lead singer for Black Flag rabidly anti-gun?
If so, it confounds me how someone can be all "Down with the system, anarchy forever!" while thinking "Guns are bad guise :("
On topic, why the fuck is Jello Biafra such a fucking pansy now?
>>69939237
I dunno, James Hetfield gives off some conservative vibes. He's at least a lifetime member of the NRA.
is Retro Wave the ultumate redpill genre?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er416Ad3R1g
>>69933384
in the case of zappa it made me like his music more
>>69939116
more like 1983 you faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdtpaGd4GXk
Steve Albini is pretty redpilled
>>69939469
No, the tech for pups is such that you can get a fine bucker sound out of a single slot, so there's no need to tear up what looks like a fucking righteous tonewood from his pic.
>>69937920
Props to him because he influenced Zappa and Waits, but both of them did things miles ahead of anything by Beefhart.
>>69939237
I think there's a lot of conservatives in metal. Who was that one metal guy who was getting interviewed and just started calling everything gay?
Also no, I have not. Why is it a meme?
>>69938931
>The only genre that is not filled with tumblr SJWs is bluegrass and classical music.
pretty much this
>>69939259
reading comprehension?
i said vic is based af since he's won player of the year every single year
les is good as fuck though for just throwing down on all kinds of shit and making the bass a lead instrument in modern music. that is innovation. he brought the bass to the front of his band, and he's not playing faggy upper register shit 247 to do it.
>>69939375
We played with a ton of hardcore bands. These people are simply uneducated. They have no idea what they're talking about, which is funny because they have EXTREMELY strong opinions about things (like when they're on stage screaming about it in front of 500 people).
If you talk to them 1 on 1, they don't have a clue about anything. The majority of them have low self esteem, barely graduated high school, don't read books, don't study anything. They just pick up random ideas from movies and other bands. It's embarrassing.
No, at least not so far.
I can still enjoy Ted Nugent as much as I used to as long as I don't have to listen to any of the stupid bullshit that comes out of his mouth.
>>69939615
>but both of them did things miles ahead of anything by Beefhart
>>69933384
unfortunately, no.
I will still keep listening to Kiss and Megadeth and I never got into Marilyn Manson.
>>69939623
Maybe a black metal band? European black metal is extremely isolated from the American metal community though. Most of touring American metal is metalcore/deathcore/hardcore/tech metal, and it's like 98% tumblr SJWs who support feminism.
>>69933384
Eh, nah good music is good music. I can still enjoy shit like Dead Kennedys or even Rage Against the Machine despite them being far left commies. A lot of early and mid 90s rap is WE WUZ as fuck but I can still listen to, say, old Common or some shit with no problem.
I don't mind them having different opinions, but if they start to incorporate their political views into their music I drop them like a bag of shit.
>>69939950
Just remembered what I was thinking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_Lv0r-l4c
>>69939623
Oh and Mustaine's orchestra performance became a meme because of how bad it was. He booked a performance in a theater hall with a small orchestra behind him, then he got up with a flying-v running through some screeching shitty Line-6-tier amp and started playing Bach. He got like 50% of the notes wrong, the tone was so bad it sounded like a joke, and it was generally a train wreck.
>>69939751
>If you talk to them 1 on 1, they don't have a clue about anything. The majority of them have low self esteem, barely graduated high school, don't read books, don't study anything. They just pick up random ideas from movies and other bands. It's embarrassing.
I wouldn't doubt it. Still, there are a lot of musicians that seem pretty on the ball with issues.
>>69934388
My guitar teacher had his second son blessed by Dave. No lie.
>>69935406
Thanks, good stuff.
>>69933384
No, because I'm not a thought police leftist who will hate you and try to get you fired for having different political views than me.
>>69933506
Fpbp. He didn't even do drugs. Always slept in a different hotel than his band mates because of this
>>69940096
Haha I haven't seen this. I wonder if he'd still talk like this today nearly 10 years later.
Their newest release was sick though.
>>69933384
If they sperge it in their songs yes.
Art and politics should always be seperated.
Yes.
Stopped listening to several bands. It just changes how you feel towards them.
It's like when pretty girls are bitches; they become ugly
>>69937459
>>69937562
>the most commercially succesful american band of the 70s
>>69936505
couldn't you have picked a more representative song???
No, I'm well aware that the majority of music I listen to is made by SJW retards.
I'm perfectly happy for them to have beliefs different to mine, the real pity is the they wouldn't be able to say the same. Well, not without it being a lie.
>>69940779
>the most commercially succesful american band of the 70s
>Bassist is a jew
>Thinking the band wouldn't be the most commercially successful
>>69933384
Not really, I just listen to it.
>>69940878
ahahahahaha
>>69940779
Yes, because they're jews and they sold kiss lunchboxes, ties, and a million other accessories like a bunch of pretending faggots.
worst music I've ever heard.
>>69939375
James does give off conservative vibes I agree. He just looks like too much of a badass to be a liberal cuck
>>69941018
so youa re saying they became succesful nto by the records but by the merchanidse? and people were willing to admit they bought lunchboxes and figurines instead of records? As what, a form of irony?
>>69933506
Seeing the rest of the band do project object. PUMPPED
>>69937754
you're probably wondering why I'm here,
>>69939623
>Who was that one metal guy who was getting interviewed and just started calling everything gay?
Sounds like George Fisher. Dude spergs out over WoW and starts calling people faggots and punching things.
>>69933384
All new music is shit an the people creating it are all shit. Ill listen to my zep an flloyd and imagine the world was a better place
>>69939469
I can smell a Nuno fan a mile away
>>69937529
Yes all day everyday
