Are there any monarchists on /pol/? Wishing to restore your empire?
>>69912897
There should also be a lower class Englishwoman tied up there.
It was a clever ploy by the elite to portray Britain as one monolithic whole during those times, making the white working class a convenient scapegoat and decoy for all of the festering resentment of everyone the Empire fucked over.
In reality, the working class were very much a group which were shit on by the British elite, just like all of the others.
Why the fuck would anyone be a monarchist?
It's literally "hey I like authoritarianism but I also like gambling with my country's future".
Sure your king is nice and iron fist-y, but then his heir's heir is a liberal cuck. What are you going to do about it? NOTHING, that's what. He's the legitimate ruler.
I've got no qualms with anyone who thinks dictatorship is the proper way to rule, but monarchy is just dictatorship with extra retarded.
>>69913347
>hurr durf muh wurkin class
fuck off commie
stick your crown up your ass!
>>69912897
>No American
Fuck yes. As soon as Britain is ready to restore the Empire, I'll go conquer the waves for them. I don't care if they send me in to die. A death for the King is a good death.
>>69913848
What's your point?
>>69912897
>all Englishman want to restore the Empire
>god save the queen fuck potato niggers
>>69914294
commie
>>69913744
Yeah man democracy all the way. People will down syndrome ought to vote after all.
>>69912897
There... wouldn't happen to be MORE of where this came from, would there?
>>69912897
Maybe, I need a cup of tea first.
>>69914551
Fuck you!
Up the Irps!
>>69913744
If the next king is a libcuck, then behead them. It's like your government but we can conveniently blame everything on a single person.
>>69912897
Why is there an Ireland? They surrendered to us at Dublin Castle.
>>69913744
>coming from a country who without Trump would be choosing a president who was either
>the son and brother of former presidents
>or the wife of a former president
sure smells like monarchy in here
>French revolution
>American revolution
>fucking 20th century China
>>69913347
>b..b..but me workin clarse m8!
Sod off you filthy pleb. You shall be used as cannon fodder in our plight against the Zulu tribes.
>>69914714
>>69912897
>YiD
every time
>>69912897
nope, republic time :^)
>>69914590
It hax the artist's deviantart right there.
>>69914584
Those aren't the only two options.
>>69914838
>4/20
Trudeau...
>>69914714
>>69914815
COME OUT YE BLACK AND TANS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lovVVIodx_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZUU1q8Qpok
>>69914838
>4/20
Everytime, Trudeau.
>>69914838
>4/20
Everytime with you Weednadians.
>>69912897
Fapping to Yes-i-DiD's shit is something I feel oddly ashamed about, considering what else I look at to get myself off.
>>69914948
INLA freedom fighters!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972jLVYvqwM
>>69913744
>the only form of monarchy is absolute monarchy
okay bub
>>69913347
Working class here, fuck off.
>>69912897
nice pic lol
>>69913347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7zoZe-ZATs
>>69915253
t. Adam James Rooney
u fukin savaged that posh twat m8
>>69914838
I am so proud of this ID. fuck yeah blaze it
>>69915440
Thanks lad.
>>69915444
Shit I got the leaf
At least she's hot Tbh
>>69912897
The Entente ruined it.
Airey Neave's car.
>>69913744
Monarchies have stability and legitimacy. A dictatorship is always teetering on the brink of collapse. If the dictator dies, or loses the fear of the nation, it falls apart until some new dictator can emerge to gather up all the pieces and glue them back together again, which may take years or never happen at all. The mob might take over and set up a democracy too. A monarchy on the other hand can continue in smooth succession potentially for thousands of years.
>>69914777
The Lord hath spoken, and so has Rome.
>>69915741
;__;
>>69912897
I was, and then Trump came along and now I actually feel bad for Britain. Your Monarchy got cucked by the democracy Jew and could really use its power back.
>>69915741
Kaiser Wilhelm II was actually removed from power by Germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319
>>69915777
witnessed
>>69915777
>>69915253
Never ceases to amaze me how you domesticated animals will happily serve and bow to your masters. I suppose when you are being ordered about everywhere it spares you the burden of having to use your own (limited) brain capacity.
>>69916430
Why do I have a feeling that you are a middle class ponce telling me how I should think?
>>69914777
>>69915777
Holy Dubs
>>69915388
This was hilarious, thanks.
>>69915767
>>69914719
>>69915767
That's the problem though. The first monarch IS a dictator. There's no difference.
Monarchy depends on the succession for legitimacy. You overthrow King I, you lose nothing. You overthrow King VII, you throw away up to 200 years or more of stable governance.
If you want the kind of stability that makes people fall in line because their grandfathers were ruled by the king's grandfather, then you have to take the bad rulers with the good. Otherwise you're just faking it, and begging for violent revolution.
>>69914774
You're right, America's democracy is looking pretty pathetic; that's why people are losing faith in it.
A democracy depends on the will of the people for legitimacy. If the leader isn't truly the people's choice, no one will believe in the democracy.
Likewise, monarchy depends on the royal family for legitimacy. If you can just behead King IV and end his dynasty because he's a liberal cuck, no one will believe in the divine right of the royal family.
>>69912897
I'm a monarchist.
Not a "Windsor" or "Tudor" monarchist.
Simple monarchist, maybe even a more representative monarchist.
>>69913744
Because, when honour actually meant something, that's when monarchists actually took their role seriously. Their life purpose is to rule, and that's what guarantees a good monarchy, because we know they don't have special interests.
The reason Marxism took hold of monarchist Russia, is because the honor of monarchy was dissolving; they encapsulated a large portion of people who didn't hold the same honor; any empire that is a colonist empire, by default, always dissolves its honor, because the societies clash and honor becomes imbalanced. Rome, for example, dissolved, because honor was lost; people let it go; the British empire dissolved, likewise, because they tried to encapsulate too many people of different societies, so the honor dissolved. America once had honor even, but again, it dissolved after the melting pot. Honor is an ingroup property.
This is why people are becoming more leftist and humanitarian, because our borders are mocked; anything that sets us apart from others, like race, religion or nationality, are mocked.
"But all that I heard had the effect of arousing the strongest antagonism in me. Everything was disparaged--the nation, because it was held to be an invention of the 'capitalist' class (how often I had to listen to that phrase!); the Fatherland, because it was held to be an instrument in the hands of the bourgeoisie for the exploitation of' the working masses; the authority of the law, because that was a means of holding down the proletariat; religion, as a means of doping the people, so as to exploit them afterwards; morality, as a badge of stupid and sheepish docility. There was nothing that they did not drag in the mud."
- Adolf Hitler, on listening to Social Democrats, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2
>>69916430
You do not get to claim moral or intellectual superiority. The liberty doctrine you believe in has led us to plutocracy and the precipice of complete annihilation at the hands of billions of Chinese and Indians.
>tfw you can't bring back the dead
Is there no justice in this world?
What's worse, a monarchist or a papist?
>>69912897
I very rarely visit /pol/, but I am one
The German Empire was the greatest form of Germany
>>69917009
>Social Democrats
It was their colossal social and economic ineptitude that enabled the Nazis to become the strongest party in the Reichstag. Only they are to blame for the 2nd world war, and yet they continue to exist as a party here. If I had the power, I'd outlaw their party and jail all dissenters without a second thought like Bismarck did.
>>69917539
Papist for sure, you seen what the popes done recently?
Holy cuckballs.
>>69912897
>being a servile cuck
>>69913744
Only a country without a culture would argue against a constitutional monar-
>flag
Nevermind
>>69917539
There are still good monarchs. There hasn't been a good pope in centuries.
>>69917875
>being a fucking leaf
>>69918010
More like years.
>>69918039
Don't you have some refugees to welcome, Hans?
>>69912897
Having a monarchy is the most cucked thing humans can do. Sometimes literally.
>>69912897
>Implying anyone would ever be able to tie me kangaroo down, spot.
Good job dumb dumb.
>>69918118
I don't like monarchy, but prima nocta never happened in Europe senpai
>>69918118
Congrats, you're a liberal.
>>69916953
>you have to take the bad rulers with the good
Absolutely. However, a country can survive bad rulers now and then, and if they are really outrageously bad, then the peers can conspire to remove them in favor of more suitable members of the royal family or claimants.
>>69918118
>Prima nocta
Didn't exist
>>69918118
More cucked than bowing down before a cotton picker?
I doubt that, you regret losing the monarchy, just like France does.
>1000 years of monarchy and still stronk
vs
>200 years a recucklic and already collapsing with 60% white population
lel
>>69917371
Wasn't there a happening in Brazil a few weeks ago? Just try again.
>>69917703
Is t Bernie a social democrat
>>69914838
DUDE
>>69918009
>hurr America no culture
You sound like black teenage girls I had to go to school with.
>bong culture wouldn't exist without America
>>69918438
*Didn't exist in Europe
>>69918607
It didn't exist at all, it's a myth and a well known myth.
>>69918578
american culture is just a mismatch of the rest of the worlds cultures, and our culture is essentially the same. don't try to act superior.
>>69912897
rxn here
>>69918301
>Neggervergewaltigungland
>>69914838
DUDE
>>69918478
>implying Betsy is in charge of Chavland
>>69919265
So you've just proven my point, government fucks over its citizenry, not the monarchy.
Check m8 Xbox fags.
>>69918823
Not really, America has a pretty clear culture of it's own. Just because it was influenced by other people doesn't mean it's not theirs. And it's pretty much the dominant culture world wide.
>>69918823
>said the guy who acted superior
>>69912897
No. I used to be a monarchist, but I'm a democratic monarchist which is essentially a republican in modern terms.
>>69913744
Yeah absolute monarchy is autistic, I agree.
>>69914294
I agree.
>>69914551
Hi Jersey, love ya man.
>>69914584
I agree.
>>69913744
Fuck off communist scum.
>>69915741
Video for you, Reichaboo.
https://vine.co/v/ijDgZ5J3YTZ
>>69912897
Leafy seems quite happy with her position...
>>69919359
>You will never burn kikes and muslims in the name of glorious Isabel
Why even life
>>69912897
The monarchy is alive and well thank you very much.
If only Kircheis was here to determine what you would rather live under.
A benevolent monarch or a corrupt democracy?
>>69919623
>>bong culture wouldn't exist without America
you started it faggot what a stupid thing to say that is
>>69919631
>Yeah absolute monarchy is autistic, I agree.
So you agree the president should be removed immediately and executed for his crimes against your people.
Surely drone striking US citizens on US soil without due process is a crime of government tyranny correct?
Or do you not see the comparison between president and monarch? The two are identical, only one serves the people, the other serves himself.
And it's never been the monarchy that serves itself, they're reminded that they can be placed on a chopping block, your government all governments pass the buck. No accountability, no justice, no execution for corrupt government officials, not even prison.
You say absolute monarchy is autistic, you don't get more autistic and retarded than a republic.
Do it so we can get revenge for 1812.
>>69912897
MAXIMUM REEE
Monarchies are more stable,and usually respect laws way more than democracies do. There are laws that has been respected through out hundreds of years,which were fastly abolished under democracy.
Democracy is the biggest bluepill there is,and soon the few rights that we have left will be eradicated in the name of the "common good"
>>69920015
What revenge? You're not entitled to any revenge cunt head.
You're lucky the entire United States wasn't burnt to the ground so count your blessings boy.
>>69912897
wew lad
time to fap
>>69914797
>implying zulus had cannons
>>69919935
Well usually the one monarch serves himself, while the President, elected by the people, is reminded that the people gave him that power and we can take it back, quite easily, because we have guns and uh, you don't.
See that's the difference between my republic and your system, since with your system the people don't have any, how should I say, balance of power equalizer to the situation.
Since of course the king's guards and soldiers only have the weapons, the citizens don't.
So it really is, kind of autistic.
>>69912897
>>69920213
Spanish Empire v2 when?
>>69920266
Oh and by the way faggot, don't ever burn our White House again or we'll be sure to nuke your island.
Also there's no fucking way you could've defeated us on our own soil, we were larger than you and Canada's forces combined.
You're both so autistic, you and Canada.
>>69920594
Canada is more Autistic because they take credit for Britains work.
>>69920417
>Believing this crap
Monarchies has respected laws during hundreds of years,while democracies have been stripping our rates at unbeliable rates. Soon you will have 60% income tax and a 30% VAT which will go to uneducated niggers,and you will not be able do nothing. While the maximum tax rates during monarchies didnt exceed the 10% of your income and respected the rights of the land religiously most of the time. Democracy is the ultimate bluepill,.
>>69920417
>Elected by the people
That's where you fucked up, you have hand picked candidates that are chosen by monopolies, not by the people. So you can shove that up your arse immediately.
And I find it hilarious that America's indoctrinated history lessons teach them that they were fighting a monarch, when in fact they were fighting a government.
You weren't fighting the monarchy at all, that's the beauty of it all and to justify abandoning your King and royalty, you try to spread republicanism around the world, destroying nations like France who are in a far worse state than we are, a former monarchy that went bankrupt helping you become a republic.
You're a petulant brat of a nation personified and any discussions about republics/monarchs from Americans should be trashed, like their heritage, culture, nation and history.
Trashed, burnt and started over again. You've failed as a republic, 200 years and you've fucking failed.
Hang your head in shame you cuck.
>>69920684
Well desu, it was a combined effort of Canacucks and Britfag troops. Not that Canacuckia had any balls to come down here, it was probably because of Daddy they did.
>Muh 2v1
>>69920484
Soon. Here is our king posing with the patron saint Santiago the moor slayer.
BASED
>>69920594
We'll burn more than just your fucking white house down you cunt.
And you couldn't beat a bunch of unarmed gooks. You stand no fucking chance against us.
>mfw the America army and militias were in the hundreds of thousands vs 10's of thousands of British army troops that repeatedly kicked American arse in 1812
You're pathetic. Absolutely fucking pathetic. The only war you've ever won was handed to you by the grace of the King because he was losing money.
That must sting inside, to know we cut you off like an infected limb purely because of money.
Funny shit.
>>69914357
I wonder why all the British shit talkers ignored this. Must be because you don't understand the intricacies of Monarchical govt... because your ancestors told them to fuck off.
God Bless America.
>>69912897
Of course there are. Its fucking treason not to support your king. Same goes for Spain, Sweden, Denmark, the UK and so on.
>>69920914
Wasn't really 2vs1.
British troops had finished destroying Napoleon and in response to you burning and attacking Canada, we sent our spare troops to deal with you, a fucking token force that managed to steamroll through into your capital, burn it down and just walk back to the port and take a ship home.
Funny as fuck.
>>69912897
Aussie girl is by far the cutest, all the others are shit
>>69920781
You're full of shit, Spaniard.
>>69920829
Yeah yeah, we fought against the Crown, the Monarch, your Parliament, whatever. I don't care. And we are still a republic, but you're right, we are ruled by plutocrats.
However, the people do have some voice in it, though it is a very little voice compared to the money exchanging in the background.
But don't worry, we'll take it back, and create a new phoenix republic from within, we have that special equalizer you know.
You don't. :^)
>>69921014
Actually you were telling the parliament to fuck off because they wouldn't give you more money.
That's essentially why you had your hissy fit and you blame it on the monarchy when it was indeed parliament enacting the laws, taxes, deploying troops etc etc etc.
And in order to cover up this known fuck up of yours, you demand everyone even if the majority is happy with their monarch to become a failed republic, just like you!
No thanks baby boy, I would rather burn alive.
>>69921164
>British troops had finished destroying Napoleon
Do you actually believe this crap?
>>69919522
>m8
>>69921289
No, you fought against parliament.
That's literally all you did. Fight against parliament.
So just shut the fuck up, you're a retard. You justify government over monarchy and yet you were fighting the government, not the monarchy.
Our monarchy got completely neutered and destroyed by Oliver Cromwell and then restored by William III and even more powers devolved away from the monarchy and more powers handed to parliament.
This was all done before you decided to throw your dummy out the pram.
>>69921373
But it's true, the forces that were deployed to America in 1812 were the forces that had finished escorting Napoleon to one of our abandoned islands for exile.
You retarded spic mexican cunt.
Not like your nation won anything, except maybe the award for the most useless navy in human history right up there next to the French navy.
U mad Pedro? Yeh u mad I know u are.
>>69921289
Tell me how many constitutionals right has your democracy broken,and soon will break,and compare it with 1200 of monarchies respecting territorial law. Soon your second amendment,and the state rights will be ablolished,and you will be taxed into oblivion,and you wont be able to do anything.
Enjoy being the ultimatr cuck,supporting the cuckiest system ever created,Democracy.
>>69912897
Who here is /praetorianguard/?
>>69921577
Lol. Brittish are this dumb. Btw we have won more wars against you than the other way around. And talking about useless navy...
>>69921330
George III couldn't dismiss the Prime Minister and form a new govt if he chose to?
"Once vigorous measures appear to be the only means left of bringing the Americans to a due submission to the mother country, the colonies will submit."
>>69912897
Hell yes. Democracy is utter shit
>>69921164
>Wasn't really 2v1
Explain that to your Canacuck friends then, btw, your explanation makes us even stronger because if you were able to beat us in 1812 alone we would've been your colony again.
But of course you didn't, because your troops were butthurt pansies who could do nothing but cowardly burn our White House while we were away.
Shows you how much of a cuck your nation was.
>>69921005
>unarmed gooks
>implying they weren't armed and hiding like the bunch of faggots they were
And also that was a stalemate, not a loss.
You're only making us look stronger by saying we had less troops and all you could do was burn our White House.
Also fuck your King, and your Parliament. I'd rather the individual citizen be autonomous then let some faggot decide what they should do as a vassal of their "glorious" nation.
I don't care if the Revolution was started by criminals, being taxed for any reason is unjust, and I should be able to save my shekels for something that I WANT, NOT WHAT YOU FAGGOTS WANT.
>>69921766
England was lucky the Spanish Armada ships crashed
>>69920417
But when the president is elected he can do anything he want and most of the time he doesn't do what the people want
Like in all Latino countries and most of them world with democracy but we have to remember that all those countries have US puppets
>>69913347
Corbyn pls.
>>69922002
They were lucky Hitler called off his dogs too...
>>69918438
Off-topic
But I was surprised to learn Belgium still has a king
>>69922002
They lost that war,and Britain went banktupt after we destroyed their fleet later. The only ones that really destroyed our fleet were the Dutch at Dumas.I dont know how the armada meme can still be alive.
>>69922006
>can do anything he want
>most of the time he doesn't do what the people want
What are checks and balances, what are the 3 branches of government...
Goddamn, monarchists actually believe their government, controlled by one central figure (who could be evil btw), is a whole lot better than a decentralized government where you can have alot of evil people but they can't do anything because the other branches keep them in check.
It's a very splendid form of reducing tyranny and maximizing freedoms 24/7.
>>69922292
One man's meme, is another man's history. America has never been invaded.
>>69922524
1812 says differently.
>>69913744
Or you know you could just have one of those monarchies in which the succession isn't based on such idiocy as birth.
For instance the golden era of the Roman State was during the reign of the Five Good Emperors who all were picked for the job based on merit.
In Sweden before the Vasa Dynasty came into power the king was also elected and the title wasn't inherited.
>>69913347
Corbynistas on /pol/? Who knew?
>>69922524
Mexicans
>>69914774
Yeah, for a society of supposedly egalitarian, classless liberty-lovers, the USA sure has a fuck-ton of political dynasties.
>>69922642
That's why it's a meme. xD xD xD
>>69915741
We would have left Germany alone if it stuck to being a land power and didn't march right through Belgium like a fucking idiot.
>>69915898
kill me.
>>69919359
You're missing out the bit of Burgundy below the Netherlands too. Also Sardinia and Corsica.
Mid-1500s Spain was based as fuck.
>Dutch Monarchy
>Not Aristocratic republic with the Van Oranje Dynasty
>>69922518
>What are checks and balances, what are the 3 branches of government...
Checks and balances doesn't work. A burger like you should be familiar with your history. But even then, just logic proves that the idea of checks and balances is completely fucking retarded. Sovereignty cannot be restrained, if it agrees to restraint itself, it either passes sovereignty to another part which becomes the new informal sovereign, if it remains sovereign, who is going to prevent it from just throwing away the chains?
In the case of Clapistan, is the civil service that is holding sovereignty by the mandate of the SCOTUS and no power can challenge that situation.
And yes, hierarchy works. It is how business works. The capitalist restaurant works for the benefit of the owner, the communist for the benefit of the people. But which one has the best food? Would a workers collective be able to run the Trump organization? It is the same for government, monarchy is private enterprise, democracy a soft variant of communism.
>It's a very splendid form of reducing tyranny and maximizing freedoms 24/7.
What you are saying is that the fall of Rome was better, because you got rid of that tyrannic Augustus and the roving bands of huns that rapes and burn everything is more pleasant than Imperial rule.
Have tyranny as defined as uncalled for state brutality increased or decreased over the last hundred years? Have criminal activity increased or decreased over the last hundred years?
Taxes were lower in Sweden before democracy and the King didn't import Kebab so that he could impress the communists at Harvard.
It's funny that Americans complain about monarchy and authoritarianism when their president is one of the most powerful heads of state/heads of government in the world, with vetos and declaratory and emergency powers out the wazoo.
>>69919714
>you will never torture and burn hundreds of innocents informed on because their neighbors didn't like them
>>69924074
Our Constitution gives War and Peace powers to the Legislature. Unfortunately they abdicated them. Cut off their own heads.
>>69922006
Unfortunately, all Latino countries and most of the world didn't have a strong military with high technology while your country is a rural country that was started your own democracy, ending up your former leader was overthrown because he was attempting to invade your neighbour, costing both of his power, and his own country. And shit hits the fan two years later, we have to involve because your country had power, means being a big dog of your region, and it will get worse later on. Sure, we did place my puppet in your country, that later rebuilt later on. Plus, we train your military to become strong and power, like us. Making your economy also strong and power, like today. Well, only in Latin America. We fund your country with taxpayers' money on military, technology, economy, and reduce poverty. Some countries like yours work, others don't. Be happy that you don't have to live in places that it's fucked up and barbaric.
Monarchists are communists in their delusions and fallback on no-true scotsmans.
A core tenet of the age of monarchies was the issue of if it was legitimate or not to rebel against an unjust monarch. And for most of history their position was it it was not legitimate to rebel against an unjust monarch. Luther held that position, St. Augustine held that position, Christian theologians and thinkers held that position until the enlightenment, as did most orthodox Muslim thinkers (the ones who said it was the duty for one to rebel against an unjust un-islamic monarch were the extremist minority).
In republican or constitutional monarchies there are methods to remove an unjust regime without breaking the entire society by civil war. There have never been such mechanisms in monarchies that were not constitutional with exceedingly limited power afforded to the monarch.
Now the height of fucking retarded faggotry are you cocksuckers who actually support hereditary monarchy. As if what cunt you crawl out of will dictate if you are a good ruler or not. Considering as even the pro-monarchist here >>69922661 notes that very period went to shit the exact moment an emperor chose a hereditary successor.
>>69921598
Shit nigger if we went and listed monarchies that broke the rights guaranteed to their subjects we'd be here all fucking day.
>>69921577
>Escorting Napoleon is beating napoleon
You Brits claim all the glory for beating Napoleon and discretely shove the blood, sweat and toils of all the continental allies who did the majority of the fighting under the rug. Then again like father like son, where else did we learn that glory hogging from? :^)
>>69912897
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
>>69925895
Here is an interesting preposition Burger, elections selects for winning elections. It can work in aristocratic republics like Rome and in ancient Greece, but it usually brings in a lot of civil war.
Has it ever crossed your mind that there are no American equivalent of Frederick the Great?
I dunno. I used to sing "god save the queen" in school all the time.
I guess I am? I don't really care. I'm going to do the things I want to do either way so whatever.
>>69912897
I support a monarchy only if I get to be the monarch.
I really really really want to be a monarch. And to be crowned with the Iron Crown of Lombardy.
