Are you guys retarded?
>>69910746
Well folks, it's bolt action rifles and subbys for you.
>>69910746
Your bait seems to be a bit old there, maybe pull some more from elsewhere in your shithole.
As if Bernie and Hillary don't support the AWB? Or are you here to shill for Rato?
>>69910746
>Jul, 2, 2000
You were probably still in your dad's balls when he said that
Damn, I forgot that people aren't allowed to ever change their opinions on things.
I guess I can't support Trump anymore.
>said as a businessman over 10 years ago
>not a politician
>not a normal guy
People can learn. This is not flipflopping, he never promised anything or betrayed anyone
>>69910746
>MUH GUNS BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE 18TH CENTURY SAYS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGHT GOVERNMENT TYRANNY
>the government actually has the most advance military in the world
i'd love to see fat people with assault weapons trained by call of duty trying to wage war against a trained and rich military
>>69910746
What the hell even is an "assault weapon"?
>>69911300
>I guess I can't support Trump anymore.
Actually, using OP's logic, you have to continue to support Trump
>>69911123
>>69911300
>Trump says some shit in 2000
>"Come on, it's 2016!"
>Sanders says some shit decades ago
>"He must still believe it 100% and we must use this quote as ammunition in our internet crusade."
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???
>>69910746
I just assume anti Trump memes like this are lying based on the sheer quality of misquotes going on.
>>69911639
The difference is Trump had people to please and things to do as a businessman, versus the lazy retarded failure of an ideologue that is Sanders
>>69911639
Sanders supported Communism which killed 100s of millions of people and his current beliefs are basically Communism lite. It's very different
>>69911789
>The difference is Trump had people to please and things to do as a businessman
And he won't as a politician?
>>69911928
Sanders has denounced brutal Communist regimes before, even as recently as one of the debates.
>>69912175
>And he won't as a politician?
apparently not lel
>>69911606
I liek u
>>69910746
>people can't backtrack on views they previously held, because they realised they were bad
I think you're the retard m8
>>69912175
>Sanders has denounced brutal Communist regimes before
How brave
Semi auto weapons should be banned. they're killing machines. Way too dangerous to be legal for anybody to pick up off the shelf and buy.
>>69912175
Oh, and he denounced it publicly when his reputation is on the line in front of millions of people. Does that mean he did not literally support and endorse many forms of communism and communist regimes throughout South America and Europe? No. The opposite is true, and the information is available to anyone that ACTUALLY cares about Sanders and what he brings to the table, versus the absolute bullshit that so many idiots have fallen for regarding his free shit policy
I already have plenty of guns.
when people try to ban ammo, then I'll be upset
>>69911639
Sanders was the original cuck porn writer
>>69911582
A scary sounding word to describe semi auto rifles.
>>69911789
>"The difference is Trump has no integrity because it's lucrative, Bernie is only honest because he has no incentive to lie."
Stellar.
>>69911928
>communism killed millions
Communism can't kill people, people kill people, anon.
>>69912463
>How brave
You must have lost the plot
>You: Sanders supports X
>Anon: No he doesn't he specifically decried X
>You: Well, <ad hominem>
This is the part where you're supposed to present a counterargument at this point.
>>69912175
>Sanders has denounced brutal Communist regimes before, even as recently as one of the debates
le socialism has never been tried maymay
>>69913591
>This is the part where you're supposed to present a counterargument at this point.
My point is him denouncing the murder of millions is meaningless. No one is going to say "elect me president so I can kill you".
Why DO you need assault weapons for anyways? You are not planning to shoot masses of people, are you?
You don't need a more powerful gun than a simple pistol to defend yourself you maniac
>>69913878
Excuse my paraphrasing:
>words are meaningless, Bernie could be pandering
I agree. So why does Trump get the benefit of the doubt in this regard but Bernie is seen as dishonest or untrustworthy?
>>69914306
>So why does Trump get the benefit of the doubt in this regard but Bernie is seen as dishonest or untrustworthy?
What planet do you live on?
Also, Trump changes his mind on policy, Sanders, supposedly, changed his ideology. Very different things.
>>69914135
I need to defend myself from the guvmint, I would have tanks like them if I could you ugly flagged nigger.
>>69914580
Your whole latin familia (Bolivia for example) shares my colors tu pieza de mierda
>>69914518
>What planet do you live on?
Zebes. I'm asking you, specifically, how Bernie could be viewed as less trustworthy as an individual than Trump.
>Also, Trump changes his mind on policy, Sanders, supposedly, changed his ideology. Very different things.
Really? I would describe policy and ideology as closely related. Ideology dictates policy (or it should). Policy reveals ideology. How different are they really?
>>69913591
You can word it in any way you like that seems to be beneficial to you and your cause, but it doesn't change the fact that Trump did his job, what he had to do to be the successful person he is today. It doesn't change the fact that Bernie has been a veritable failure in almost everything he has ever done, aside from becoming a corrupt politician that supports and furthers the interest of a corrupt ideology.
Furthermore, your other replies are blatant bullshit, and indicative of someone that somehow manages to miss the point entirely and construct arguments against things that he misunderstands entirely.
Way to go, I guess? I guess only a fedoralord Bernie supporter could come up with such a preponderance of wordy bullshit that ultimately doesn't mean anything.
>>69915650
>I'm asking you, specifically, how Bernie could be viewed as less trustworthy as an individual than Trump.
Well, because he's Jewish. But I'm not even talking about trust. I'm telling you that he has ties to Communism and that makes him unfit to be president. I don't care if he has denounced brutal regimes. That means nothing to anyone.
>I would describe policy and ideology as closely related. Ideology dictates policy (or it should). Policy reveals ideology. How different are they really?
This is just stupid. Call it an ad hom if you want. It's fucking stupid
>>69915828
>but it doesn't change the fact that Trump did what he had to do to be the successful person he is today
I never disputed this. In fact, my argument hinges on this notion. Thanks for reiterating Trump's lack of ethical fortitude when the bottom line is at stake.
Furthermore, your other replies are blatant bullshit, and indicative of someone that somehow manages to miss the point entirely and construct arguments against things that he misunderstands entirely.
Way to go, I guess? I guess only a fedoralord Trump supporter could come up with such a preponderance of wordy bullshit that ultimately doesn't mean anything.
>>69916447
The problem is, though, that there's nothing stopping Trump from doing what he now thinks is best, for the country at large, and doing what he believes in. Furthermore, almost all of his key policies and viewpoints are views that he has demonstrably held and believed in a very long time, things that he has never changed his mind about, things he has always been willing to fight for.
You say that Trump has a lack of ethical fortitude, but how can this be the case when we know that the things Trump truly cares about have been things he has always believed, and things he has been saying for over 30 years? This is ultimately unconvincing I feel, and reflective of the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about and are only doing this for the laughs and to support your literally corrupt candidate, who steals campaign funds, a failure who has never been able to succeed at anything that has required work in his entire life, and a liar who so brazenly denounces the very ideology he has supported and championed in private for 50 years when doing so never had consequences.
You can make a convincing argument, I'll give you that. But because of the fact that you are inherently wrong on just about everything you say and believe, it ultimately means nothing. But you know that.
Or maybe you're not quite as smart as you'd have others believe.
>>69916011
>I'm telling you that he has ties to Communism and that makes him unfit to be president.
This argument feels about as thin and weak as "Trump is racist". "Has ties to X" is vague as fuck.
>This is just stupid. Call it an ad hom if you want. It's fucking stupid
I'll call it what it is, a lack of a counterargument I guess because you're too smug to explain yourself? I really don't know.
>>69917553
>says this:
>I guess only a fedoralord Bernie supporter could come up with such a preponderance of wordy bullshit that ultimately doesn't mean anything.
>writes this >>69917553
>>69910746
> tfw spain is the anti-Trump proxy of the day
Makes it so much easier, you shills wouldn't even believe ;)
>>69917618
oh yes, bernies ties to communism are vague...
>>69918003
The difference is that I am right, and you are wrong, friend. My preponderance of wordy bullshit ultimately means something, while yours does not
You are wrong. Your convictions are based on false beliefs and poor evidence and blatant bias.
That's the difference, but you'd know that if you weren't a braindead retard.
>>69918406
No. I'm right and YOU'RE wrong. Phew, that was easy.
>>69910746
Yes. Wait no.
>>69918492
Yeah it was, except you're literally wrong. It doesn't matter if you can come up with a convincing argument when you're ultimately wrong, despite what you seem to believe?
Unless you actually believe some of the things you're saying?
I'll grant you that you're pretty good at this. Doesn't stop you from being wrong, which is what actually matters here, not how well you can construct an argument to try and convince other people you are not in fact wrong.
>>69917553
>The problem is, though, that there's nothing stopping Trump from doing what he now thinks is best, for the country at large, and doing what he believes in.
I don't recall ever questioning Trump's competence, or even his actual policies. I only questioned his intentions and his integrity as an individual.
>but how can this be the case when we know that the things Trump truly cares about have been things he has always believed, and things he has been saying for over 30 years?
>In an October 24, 1999 appearance on Meet the Press, Trump said "I am very pro-choice" and "I believe in choice."
>Later that year, Trump gave interviews stating "I'm totally pro-choice" and "I want to see the abortion issue removed from politics. I believe it is a personal decision that should be left to the women and their doctors."
>While campaigning for the presidency in 2016, Trump stated "I'm pro-life and I've been pro-life a long time" and acknowledged that he had "evolved" on the issue.
>In an interview later that month, Trump acknowledged that there must be "some form" of punishment for women if abortion were made illegal in the U.S.
>Trump clarified his statements the following day in a press release, stating, "the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman."
"Hmm, I think this is what Republicans are supposed to say. Right? Wait, political backlash? FUCK! UNDO UNDO UNDO"
>You are wrong. Your convictions are based on false beliefs and poor evidence and blatant bias.
Totes aborbs :^)
>>69919860
>I don't recall ever questioning Trump's competence, or even his actual policies. I only questioned his intentions and his integrity as an individual.
And his intentions have always been somewhat obvious. He's not a very complicated man, in fact he is very easy to understand. You'd see the obvious too, if you weren't so intent on believing what you want to believe and finding whatever you could to support these beliefs.
Do I really have to spell out to you what is happening in those two paragraphs? Do I really have to spell out for you the kind of man Trump is and explain to you every instance that you are referring to as evidence for him not being a man of integrity, when evidence of what this man's passionate convictions are point to the contrary?
Do I really have to hold your hand explain to you the obvious? What we all already know?
>>69911639
Sanders wasn't running a billion dollar business when he said what he said.
Not to mention Bernie's current platform is borderline autism. and you are correct the results of it and you're currently seeing the results of that autism, in the way the college kids keep giving him their money even though he has no chance of winning.
Also
> A
> FUCKING
> LEAF
>>69920729
Goddamn spellchecking on my phone.
>>69911582
Its a gun with a shoulder thing that goes up
>>69911569
Guerrilla warfare is something the US army has trouble with.
Of course they are retarded. They're also intentionally abrasive and racist. They deny racism but everyone except them are niggers and jews or women, like anything bad comes from being those things.
>>69911569
>american soldiers waging war on themselves
B8 harder faggot
>>69910888
So he didn't say that?
>>69911789
He doesn't have people to please and things to do as a politician?
>>69911928
Assault weapons have killed 100s of millions.
>>69921303
>Assault weapons have killed 100s of millions.
That aside, of course he has people to please and things to do as a politician, which is why he's fucking losing
>>69910746
>gets a few more lefty votes by pandering and ensures victory
>reclassifies assault weapons when in power to mean literally fucking nothing
>waiting period increased by one attosecond
OOH ESS AYY
OOH ESS AYY
OOH ESS AYY
>july 2. 2000
>Year and 2 months before Jihadi attacks on American Soil
>People that change their minds are stupid
Please kill yourself. 1/10 b8 m8
>>69921566
That was the bait response. Sorry.
Why do you think he believes what he says now and not what he said when he wasn't fishing for votes?
>>69920573
>He's not a very complicated man
A microwave oven isn't very complicated. You put your food in, close the door, type in the amount of time you think it will take to reach your desired temp, and hit start. There isn't anymore to it than that, right?
Clearly I'm probing beyond just the surface, here.
>You'd see the obvious too, if you weren't so intent on believing what you want to believe and finding whatever you could to support these beliefs.
The problem is that you're making an absolute assertion. It only takes one counter-example to disprove an absolute.
You fault me for questioning Trump's integrity as a person, so I outlined a specific scenario where he wasn't consistent in his beliefs in an arguably important topic -- should unborn babies he protected by the law from murder? He's changed is mind on this topic not only in the long-term (i.e. the 30 years you mention) but very recently.
This brings everything he's ever said about anything into question, from my point of view. It indicates that he may say or "believe" anything if gains him support or prevents from losing support.
Which is good business sense. You want to be on friendly terms. It's also an effective strategy to gain support. But it also contradicts notions of consistency and integrity when you put it all together.
>Do I really have to hold your hand explain to you the obvious? What we all already know?
Yes. because I can't argue against what you feel is "obvious".
Spell it out for me, honey. So I can pick it apart.
>>69910746
He also used to be pro-abortion.
>>69922536
yeah you can stop any time
>>69922378
I think he believes most of what he says. I don't think he'll do anything that he doesn't believe in because he recognizes that it's not best for the country anyway and that people don't want it. It's the kind of guy he is, contrary to some other politicians that would do mostly the same thing, with the exception that they would go ahead and do what they think is best and what people pay them to do through lobbying.
If he was really as much of a populist as some people say, and if he really just wanted votes, he wouldn't be saying shit like we should build a god damn wall and put in place a ban on muslims, because despite the fact that people want this, it's still fucking outrageous and by far the riskier and more dangerous option. But it still happens to be the right thing to do. Fancy that huh?
>>69923099
>yeah you can stop any time
Well if you're going to cut and run from the debate when you get BTFO, why even start? At least concede.
>>69923326
Because you started getting boring after I'm pretty sure I already won, and you have nothing more to offer.
ITT:
>"Donald Trump has no ideological consistency, wavers on every issue, and panders constantly"
>"N-no he has always wanted to MAGA!"
C'mon. Everyone who supports him is jumping on the bandwagon because they like the character he is playing and/or because they think they're voting for David Duke. Drop the act.
>>69923729
>like the character he is playing
That about sums it up I suppose, and the character he is playing just so happens to be right and know what's best for the country in a lot of people's eyes.
Who cares in the end because at the end of the day, his ideology prevails and the people who vote for him get what they want regardless of what he does or what happens
>>69910746
>2000
wow its fucking nothing!
>>69923099
>If he was really as much of a populist as some people say, and if he really just wanted votes, he wouldn't be saying shit like we should build a god damn wall and put in place a ban on muslims, because despite the fact that people want this, it's still fucking outrageous and by far the riskier and more dangerous option.
So the things he said to gain attention and votes in a Republican primary is what makes him not a populist? Seems like that's appealing to the people(short term any way.) Him not thinking ahead to a general election is more evidence that he didn't have faith in his own campaign succeeding. Same reason he says anything off the cuff. He still doesn't even take himself seriously, he just can't tale being insulted. He's a counter-puncher after all.
>>69914135
>Why DO you need assault weapons for anyways?
Race riots.
Hey guys, I made another post that's going to totally stump Trump for real this time!
>>69924062
He doesn't actually have an ideology. If his supporters just want an empty suit with a booming voice in office who sounds like he's winning, fine, but I say that's fucking dumb.
If it doesn't matter what happens during his presidency, how can you say that anyone is getting what they want unless they want a loud, pandering, used car salesman who doesn't believe in anything?
>>69923622
>you have nothing more to offer
Yeah I guess I don't. But apparently you do. I'm literally asking you to state plainly what you feel is obvious. You haven't. Now I'm wondering if you even can.
"Isn't it obvious how this thing I believe is true?! What's wrong with you?! I'm clearly right and you're wrong!" is the type of argumentation /pol/ would deride Bernouts for but if you want this thread to be archived in such a state, with you making points you can't explain let alone defend, then I'm happy with it.
One who wins a debate doesn't need to declare it's been won. Compelling arguments stand on their own legs.
>>69910746
flip flop
>>69910746
Trump flip flops on everything, so it's ok.
>>69924463
>The Big Brain am winning again!
>Trump am the greetest!
>Now I have won the argument for no raisin!
Trump supporters, everyone. "We're right because MAGA the God-Emperor knows best he will always do the good thing for the country haha I win"
>>69924868
We're on /pol/. It's our fault for expecting anything more from it. It's really just a meme-hub. Gonna be really funny if Trump gets smashed by Hillary though.
>>69910888
>>69911123
http://bearingarms.com/trump-long-supports-ban-assault-weapons-now/
trump flip-flops again!
has that fucking idiot held even one consistent view on anything he believes in?
trumps views seem to change depending on his audience.
>>69925664
Took him at least a decade to change that view. Nowadays as soon as he finishes the interview, they have to put out multiple press releases to clarify what he said.
>>69925664
Ok, people's views change. Are you that dense?
wow you're right now I'm a #cruzmissile
>>69924390
>If his supporters just want an empty suit with a booming voice in office who sounds like he's winning, fine, but I say that's fucking dumb.
Literally a billion times better than anything shillary or cruz who will just be the same old same old
>bernie
lol
>>69926235
>United Kingdom
You are literally irrelevant.
>>69926427
Except I'm an expat from Wisconsin and I've sent my vote in for Cruz. #TrusTed.
>>69924390
>He doesn't actually have an ideology
now that's just stupid anon
>>69924463
>>69922536
Alrighty then, let's go ahead and go with this. Trump has never really been big on abortion. He's said some things, sure, but it's always been what's been expected of him. You want to know what he believes? He thinks it isn't a big deal. Everything he has been saying and doing regarding abortion has been to this end: he doesn't want to talk about it, he doesn't want it to be talked about on the national or federal level as if it's a big issue, and he doesn't think people should give much of a shit about it. He'd likely give more authority to the states on this issue in accordance with some of his other beliefs that he DOES care about, such as education and the state's right to decide the details on education. He is for state sovereignty and the state's right to decide whether or not it is illegal for a woman to have an abortion.
Does pursuing this end make him any less of a man of integrity? Does believing the same thing but choosing different avenues to pursue his belief make him less of a man of integrity, despite the fact he has always held the same belief and has always to at least some extent pursued this belief? I don't think so, and I'd be interested in why you do.
As for his position on "assault bans" I'd imagine the situation is probably similar, and while I'd like to think that he would uphold the second amendment in every case, I'd accept different states being able to decide to what extent they can regulate their guns, and to be quite honest I fully expect this to be the case. Does this make Trump less of a man of integrity, that he would pursue the best solution to everyone's problem? I don't think so. Would it even matter? No, not in any conceivable case.
>>69924868
You have no business replying to that person desu, you filthy peasant
>>69926329
>It doesn't matter what the change is, just that things change
>>69926808
>implying
STOP
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>>69926736
>Supporting a candidate who's about to be mathematically ousted from the Nomination
>And even so, thinking Cruz could get a brokered convention win. Not even the GOP likes him
>>69926769
>Being all over the map means that he just wants to figure out what's best
You are reading a lot of nuance into his flip-flopping that we have no evidence of, if we're talking about what he has actually said.
>>69926769
>Does pursuing this end make him any less of a man of integrity? Does believing the same thing but choosing different avenues to pursue his belief make him less of a man of integrity, despite the fact he has always held the same belief and has always to at least some extent pursued this belief? I don't think so, and I'd be interested in why you do.
Nope. The part where he said what he doesn't believe to get conservatives to support him is what hurts his integrity.
"I'm not a politician" I just lie like one. I talk a lot of shit though, they don't do that. Focus on my shit talking, not my shifting positions.
>>69927013
Ted has Jesus by his side, something the other candidates don't, especially Trump.
Listen my friends, I know you're angry at the way things are going. I know Trump seems like a tempting choice, hey even I was enjoying the show at first. But we are at the business end of the campaign and we need a trusted commander in chief with the temperament to lead this country. Donald doesn't have the temperament to lead these United States. If you want a constitutional leader, a firm but level headed leader and a true conservative, Cruz is your guy.
>>69911639
Here you go faggot, something a bit more recent.
https://youtu.be/dTvD0DFYh9s
>>69910746
>gubbment gonna take your guns meme
No they aren't idiot
>>69927503
Nice strawman argument
>>69927317
>that we have no evidence of
Just the fact that he explicitly states that states should have more authority over these kinds of things, almost whenever he talks about education specifically.
>>69927397
But how do you know that he doesn't believe that? For all anyone knows he really has changed his mind. And in any case, that is one of the best possible scenarios for everyone, so I don't even see the problem. It still makes him the best candidate. It still accomplishes what he's said. Hell it doesn't even necessarily conflict with what he's said in the past.
Hell, since we have to differentiate between personal opinion and policy at some point, we can even just say that anything he says now is for the purpose of outlying his policies, which he doesn't often get to explicitly state in the first place.
If anything it would speak for his integrity if he were to enact some of these policies despite his own personal beliefs on the matter. At the end of the day the only way to tell would be to wait and see if follows through on his official policies that he explicitly states to be his policies at the time he wins the election, if he does. It would be those policies that he would be beholden to, because those are the policies that gained him the support to win the election. Nothing else, especially not the positions he held some decades ago.
>>69910746
No banning will happen. If it was not done by an overt wanna-be socialistfag like Obama, Trump will not be making any attempt because you pulled a 16 year old quote out from a bygone era.
Sorry, but your shilling fails. If you found me a quote from the past year that said this, I'd be a bit worried, but you failed miserably. Go buy some serrano ham or whatever you people do, because you're not on the mark with this one.
>>69926769
>Trump has never really been big on abortion. He's said some things, sure, but it's always been what's been expected of him. You want to know what he believes? He thinks it isn't a big deal.
If this were 1996, I would believe you. "Women should be punished for abortion" is not some apathetic, nonchalant, back-of-mind position. It's a decision he arrived at either before or during that Chris Matthews interview.
If you have the notion of criminal penalties in mind for a certain act, clearly you feel some modicum of passion for that topic. Maybe his position was brought to the surface by probing questions, maybe for Trump it's not a high-priority issue. I can understand that. But the fact that he had an opinion on it meant he previously pondered the question, or was coming to a conclusion on the spot.
>>69910746
>I don't know how to spot propaganda: the post
Giving (You)s to faggots, the reply.
>>69930542
I mean, not really.
>>69930801
>Giving (You)s to faggots
You mean giving (OP)s right?
>>69925664
>>has that fucking idiot held even one consistent view on anything he believes in?
>"Few respect weakness. Ultimately we have to deal with hostile nations in the only language they know: unshrinking conviction and the military power to back it up if need be. There and in that order are America’s two greatest assets in foreign affairs."
>"[In a Trump presidency], North Korea would suddenly discover that its worthless promises of civilized behavior would cut no ice. I would let Pyongyang know in no uncertain terms that it can either get out of the nuclear arms race or expect a rebuke similar to the one Ronald Reagan delivered to Ghadhafi in 1986. I don’t think anybody is going to accuse me of tiptoeing through the issues or tap-dancing around them either. Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?"
>"To tell the enemy we’re not going to invade defies common sense. That lack of confidence may reflect another troubling reality: our diminished military forces [...] We are still living off the Reagan military buildup of nearly 20 years ago. The question is: What will we live off ten or fifteen years from now if we do not invest again? You can’t pursue forward military and foreign-policy objectives on a backward military budget. I’m not advocating that America go forth and police the world. I’m just saying that if we’re going to use our military power abroad, we had better make sure that power is ready to be used."
>"You only have to look at our trade deficit to see that we are being taken to the cleaners by our trading partners. We need tougher negotiations, not protectionist walls around America. We need to ensure that foreign markets are as open to our products as our country is to theirs. Our long-term interests require that we cut better deals with our world trading partners."
>>69926769
> He'd likely give more authority to the states on this issue in accordance with some of his other beliefs that he DOES care about, such as education and the state's right to decide the details on education.
I've always felt like "state's decide" was a cop-out, politically. It's like saying "I don't really have an opinion about this issue" or maybe "I have an opinion, but I'm not going to pursue it".
It's...political apathy.
Trump is a guy who has a strong opinion on Snowden. But sucking an unborn baby's brain out of its head isn't really on his radar? Weird.
>As for his position on "assault bans"
Actually lol I don't really have an issue with him changing his mind on guns per se, although I still strongly suspect he's pandering to his base.
>He thinks it isn't a big deal.
This can be viewed as a negative thing. Foremost, it lends credence to my suspicions that Trump will say whatever the fuck he feels people want to hear. "State's rights" is a clever way of allowing your supporters to fill in the uncertainty with whatever ideals they personally hope for.
The other side of this is that it suggests that he doesn't have a developed opinion on key topics and is making things up as he goes along -- another red flag that he's just conning his base.
The abortion thing screamed "I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about; I'm a real estate mogul moonlighting as a politician". It's what validates the shit in OP's pic because it shows his opinions have the potential to shift not necessarily because his feelings change, but because his opinions might cost him votes.
Is it not mysterious that pretty much all of Trump's pre-campaign positions that are incompatible with his base suddenly got reversed?
>>69931555
>not really
Propose a more reasonable explanation for why Trump felt that women who seek abortions should be punished, but also feels that the is not morally pressing enough to be dictated on a federal level? "Killing unborn babies is a criminal, but it should only be enforced in certain areas of the country that I am going to make great." It doesn't add up to me. Do you feel this adds up?
>>69933188
What was the point of that post
>>69911789
Straight retarded
>>69913591
>judeo-bolshevik
>honest
Stellar.
>>69933425
Who the fuck are you?
>>69933308
Because part of his entire gig up until now has been respecting the rule of law. The dumby failed to prepare for his interview and ended up answering a hypothetical question on what should happen to someone who does something illegal. The correct response would have been that the doctors who practice illegal abortion should be punished because that's the objectively best way to stop that sort of thing and enforce the law, but he stayed true to his propensity for outrageous comments for media coverage and said that the women should be punished for breaking the law.
It backfired because women don't take kindly to that sort of thing. Even though that if a woman were to break the law and get an abortion, she is STILL breaking the law, and some will even say that they are murdering the child.
In the end the whole thing is fucking stupid, and I hate that Trump even chose to go on the show. It seems at this point that he will have to seriously turn the woman's vote around or he's going to be fucking demolished by Hillary in the election. I mean I think if anyone can do it, it'd be him, but it'd still be pretty tough and I can't see how he would do it exactly.
>>69934317
fuck u fucking fagot
>>69934960
You are just a dumb faggot supporter. You probably have a job that a Mexican can take without even speaking English, trumpfag
>>69935228
>job that a Mexican can take
Well I'm a lazy NEET right now so I guess you're right lmao
>>69910746
>Are you guys retarded?
yes, they are.
they have yet to realize that Trump was placed in the race from the beginning to put Hillary in the White House.
though, perhaps they are catching on - i have noticed a marked decrease in Trump threads
>>69926736
You left your homeland to fuck up another country?Holy shit, kill yourself you fucking traitor.
>>69934960
>but he stayed true to his propensity for outrageous comments for media coverage
Did he? Usually he's overtly outrageous. This time around he seemed hesitant to state his beliefs. If his point was outrage, why not be bold in his stance? He tiptoed around the topic for a good while, even trying to throw the question back at Chris Matthews. His actions tell a different story.
>>69911569
>The United State's army can stop millions of armed citizens
