You need 270 electoral votes to be President.
The Democratic candidate starts with 242 electoral votes and the Republican starts with 179.
>>69906730
>Democratic candidate starts with 242 electoral votes
You don't start with any electoral votes
>>69906811
What state that has always voted Democrat since 1992 do you think Trump is going to win?
>inb4 New York
>>69906730
Whats your point?
>>69906967
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin
Minnesota
>>69906730
Look at map
>IA will go blue
>LA will go red
>OH will go red
that doesnt even count NH and CO which are 50/50 and it puts the republicans over the mark
>>69907194
>Trump will win Minnesota
>A state which has gone blue in the last ten presidential elections
>Even went blue in 1980 and 1984
>He didn't even get second place there in the REPUBLICAN caucus
Cruz vs Clinton vs independent Trump
No one gets 270.
Wha happen
>>69908189
1. trump does even have the nomination yet
2 it was 52 to 45 in the last election
>>69908407
It goes to congress and America loses.
>>69907194
>this is what Trump supporters actually believe
>>69908416
1. You honestly think that the only state who's republicans voted for lil' marco will fall in line behind trump if he gains the nom, even with the growing "never trump" movement in the GOP establishment, ie, what the republicans in minnesota who voted for rubio are? When he wasn't even their second choice?
2. That is a gap 3% LARGER than the national average for 2012.
>>69909410
>2. That is a gap 3% LARGER than the national average for 2012
that was a year the dems one
>>69909583
*won
>>69909583
This is circular logic. OP asks what states Trump can win to beat the dems this year around, you put up suggestions, i call you out on the stupidest one, you say he'll win because the popular vote was only a 7% gap, i tell you that's 3% larger than the national average, you say that's just because the dems won. But how is trump going to be able to win this year around instead of the dems? We're back at your list. We went nowhere. Trump isn't winning Minnesota, bucko.
>>69909939
>OP asks what states Trump can win to beat the dems this year around
The thread dems v republicans
OP added trump
>>69909939
Trump can't win the election. I just don't see the math anywhere, not without a radical shift.
I'm hoping that I'm wrong, but unless something drastic starts happening in the next few months, Trump's fucked, and so are we.
I can't support trump anymore. His chances are just unrealistic and his comments lately have shown he is a racist, misogynist, liberal, pseudi-conservative, homophobic, loser, and evil. That's why I'm becoming a #CruzMissile the dream is dead guys
>>69906730
Meanwhile in 1992:
>You need 270 electoral votes to be President
>The Republicans start with 191 electoral votes
>They will also win the entire South, and probably get Florida and Texas
>Bill Clinton is gonna be BTFO
>>69910073
see >>69908416
Trump was integral to one of your only two arguments, you nigger. And the OP clarified Trump in the second post of the thread, before you posted And it's a pro-trump board, people aren't just blindly voting GOP without regards to the candidate. That was assumed. Stop shifting the goal posts. And MN won't go red if Cruz or Kasich get the nom either. Doublenigger.
>>69910492
>Stop shifting the goal posts
OP did that when he added trump
>>69906730
Kasich is going to break the cycle. A Kasich/Rubio ticket is what the gop will do at the convention. They will win Ohio,Florida,Virginia,NH,Wisconsin,Colorado.
>>69910547
and you factored it in as one of your main two arguments for why MN would go red. And it doesn't matter either way, because MN isn't going red.
Best case scenario for Trump. Not sure if he can do it.
The GOP is going to back an independent and cost Trump the west and cuckservative states.
>>69910676
Dems are becoming toxic to whites
>>69910752
>Trump wins IL, WI,MI, VA, most of NE
>Loses OH, PA, AR??
>>69910833
this is still a weak argument for MN going blue.
Give it up. Kasich is getting the nomination and Rubio is going to be his running mate. The map is going to look like this, and they may even get Wisconsin and PA. Trump can't get to 270. Kasich can. Trump is finished.
>>69908527
You don't have ballotage?
>>69911586
Nope, house of representatives votes on the new prez if no one gets 270. It's majority GOP so they will pick whatever candidate they run against trump.
>>69911517
IT'S OVER. START LIVING IN REALITY. HOW DO YOU EXPECT FOR TRUMP TO GET TO 270?
>>69912089
Crashing this establishement
>>69912362
YOU THINK THE POLLS ARE FUCKING LYING? THE POLLS PROVE IT'S STATISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM TO GET TO 270.
