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Why doesn't the Japanese economy grow?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/negative-rates-wont-save-japans-economy-1454347656
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inability to expand population and unwillingness to outsource jobs.
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>>69891082

An aging population means a shrinking labor pool and a growing pensioner pool. This becomes even more of a problem when you consider Japan's beta cuck population who refuse to reproduce. You can't have your economy grow when you are struggling to have enough people to pay your pensioners and you have nobody to work jobs.
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>>69891082
Not enough diversity.
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>>69891082
Lower birth rates could be causing it.
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>>69891082

They need 3-4 million islamic fundamentalist people (per/year) who can't read or write.

That will fix everything
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>>69891082

too much gay anime shit and video games
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>>69891082
They keep inflating their currency and their population is upsidedown
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This is actually a very interesting topic and deserves more serious thoughts.
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>>69891082
Insane work hours and a lack of creativity.

Pretty much all their problems would be solved if they stopped being such hive mentality autists working 80 hour weeks and never taking holiday because of muh honour.
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>>69891082

Central bank fuckery for the last several decades combined with political corruption that puts the U.S. to shame.
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birth rate. But who gives a shit if the economy is growing when population is growing faster making the country poorer per capita?
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>>69891082
Because endless growth is an idiotic concept and is nothing more than a pyramid scheme that will end with us harvesting the planet's resources in record time.

Negative growth now does mean negative growth forever, and vice versa.
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They're trying to fix their demographic crisis with machines rather than animals.
It's taking a while but will probably work.
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>>69891082
>no niggers or sandniggers in the crowd
>no niggers or sandniggers affirmative actioning on the adverts

Looks fine to me.
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>>69891511
This. They aint got time to make babies as a result.
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They lost their nationalistic spirit
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>>69891082
dont listen to the other idiots

population is not important, otherwise Switzerland wouldn't be a much better place to live in than India

it is their culture and politics. their economic growth was based primarily on western development help but now that this has declined they are stagnating. Japan has low innovation and efficiency as well as declining economic freedom and labor force participation

http://www.heritage.org/index/visualize?cnts=japan&type=9
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/japan/labor-force-participation-rate
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>>69891611
As much as i would love to agree with this growth is needed to expand progress. nothing has ever been accomplished because someone was satisfied with the way things were.
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>>69891761
>pic related
they have such a large population yet barely have more scientific output than tiny Switzerland
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>>69891459
It has everything to do with population. However it doesn't matter as long as they don't go full nigger mode. They will always be first world.
A couple of months ago they created negative interest banks because they're money is inflating. They're money is inflating so quickly because of the decline in population.
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>>69891761
>if your population is decreasing at the rate Japan is, you're going to have a bad time
>also what will they do with their old people, who's going to care for them
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>>69891082
Sustainable growth is not bad. Japan is already a rich country. They don't need to get richer.
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>>69891954
robots
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>>69891954
with the decrease in population more homes become vacant decreasing the overall cost of having children in a comfortable setting increasing the amount of children being born
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>>69891511
>muh honour
I'm surprised some nationalist politician hasn't taken advantage of this to get them to have kids
>DO YORRU DUTY TO NIPPON. IMPURREGNATE YORRU WAIFU
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>>69891670
>it's fine to raise kids in poverty and slowly starve go death as long as there's no brown people

Jesus fuck Britain I didn't think you were so retarded
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>>69891082

What's wrong with the Japs. Don't they fuck?
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>>69891082
not enough immigration INTO japan, so their economy is stagnating, because they have no diversity.
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>>69892129
>don't they fuck?
Their waifu pillows maybe, not actual flesh and blood women
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>>69891318
fuck europe
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>>69891318
you're absolutely right Mr. Soros, we should also heavily socially engineer their children to racemix too, nothing invigorates a people like slowly trying to genocide them
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>>69892098
>Pulling a complete strawman out your ass

0/10. Just no.
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>>69892129
>>69892067
the japs are MTGOW to the max. Japanese women mostly expect to be housewives that don't work. It is a family system even more lopsided than the west.
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>>69891082
>fucked up growth criteria, counting deflation as a negative variable
>fucked up inflation criteria, not counting the increase of the monetary base (M4) as inflation properly
>sharp population decline
They are actually growing but not on paper. They will fall hard soon though when the interest rates raise and the social security blows up the government budget (which is already fucked up beyond repair, with the debt being +200% of their GDP).
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Because they've denied multiculturalism and globalism.

MFW japanese cucks to afraid of the brave new world.
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population decline

they need to encourage their population to fuck more, with a focus on the women because the men are sheepish little fags
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>>69891954
Japanese population is stagnant, not decreasing

now tell me, how would it help Japan if they imported low qualification foreign workers? maybe it would boost their GDP a tiny bit but their GDP per capita would decline
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I worked with a lot of Japanese at a Japanese-owned company called Unipres here in the USA.

They are, almost without exception, hard-working and highly intelligent.

They will work things out with their economy. It's impossible to keep people like that down. They're a bit strange, yes, but they are an ancient society, which essentially places them above criticism for their little idiosyncracies.

if I had my own company and could hire from any country on Earth, I'd have nothing but Japanese working for me.
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>>69892359

>Japanese women mostly expect to be housewives that don't work

Why aren't they child rearing if that is the case?
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>>69892423
They're worse than american women when it comes to standards. 6 figure salary as a prereq to pass family approval
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>>69891082
Well obviously they need several million Islamic terrorist, also a few million mudslimes.

This would create tens of thousands of jobs, mostly government ones where people have to take care of them, also thousands of new police jobs and such.
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>>69891611
wealth creation =/= resource consuming

wealth is an abstract thing, you can "grow" endlessly without using anymore resources, only energy

>expecting a swede to understand economics
well I tried
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>>69891082
Why should an economy grown when there are not new people or new technologies?
Everyone in japan has a home, tv, refrigerator, phone, games... all the roads and tunnels are already done.
Developed countries don't have economical growth, why should they? They are already developed.
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It's all the fish! The fish have gone to there brain!
our it's the fight against Godzilla using up all their resources. I jk the japanese :) they are great.
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>>69892503
this

people who believe that mass immigration will ever solve economic problems are idiots
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>>69891082
"KEYNESIANS" ON SUICIDE WATCH.
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>>69891806
This is a bir misleading for japan. Their corporations are responsible for alot of the scientific advancement in Japan, and the advancements are "born" under corporate protection.
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>>69892386
>http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/26/japan-population-declines-first-time-since-1920s-official-census
"The country lost 947,345 people – more than the population of San Francisco – between 2010 and 2015."
"According to the United Nations, Japan’s population is likely to shrink to 83 million by 2100, with 35% of them older than 65."
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>>69892359
That system makes it easier to have children though
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>>69892499

Terrible. You would think they would want their daughters to marry off to at least someone who isn't a deadbeat before their ovaries shrivel up.
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>>69892830
It's funny because once women reach 25, they're shamed and undesireable as "Christmas cake" women
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>>69892593
It solves nothing, any benefits are mostly creating government funded jobs in the short term massively increasing spending.

Yes it looks good on paper because suddenly there's a few million more buyers, others now have a job but it's all tax money that is being drained from other places such as the education sector, infrastructure maintenance and so on and on.

That all comes at the cost of losing social cohesion, increasingly replacing the native population and ruining the country entirely in the long term.
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>>69892706
>population declines less than 0.15% per year
>if your population is decreasing at the rate Japan is, you're going to have a bad time
WEW
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>>69891082
because when there's not much their why bother getting it up?
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>>69892706
thats fine, they couldn't just keep growing their population forever, they will oscillate until reaching a stable point where housing is cheap enough and the population matches the labor demand

DO NOT START IMPORTING THIRD WORLD PEOPLE
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>>69891313
lel
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>>69891268
This is partly correct.

Their issue is sovereign debt being greater than 200% of their GDP.
Basically because of all the oldfags needing to be taken care of by the state, they are killing their hopes of a future.

Shinzo Abe tried to shill the population into spending more, but they did what Japs have always done: save.

At this point:
- Global interest rates rise = Jap. Govt. BTFO
- Cash flow (yield) from financial investments overseas slows down = Jap. Govt. BTFO.
- Inability to keep peddling debt to suckers = Jap. Govt. BTFO.

No one will buy Jap Sov. Debt unless it is at gunpoint. No one. Their people are sick of tossing money into a black hole, and their corporates know it cannot be repayed.

International investors have been wary of Jap Sov. Debt since the 1990s.

Basically once the debt gets written off they will probably do okay, assuming that the population doesn't an hero on mass, or go kamikaze.
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>>69891082
you can not grow without more workers, and japan do not reproduce and do not import workers.
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>>69893328
what is with all these idiots itt shilling for mass immigration

no wonder europe is going down the tubes with idiots like these in charge
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>>69893026
>That all comes at the cost of losing social cohesion, increasingly replacing the native population and ruining the country entirely in the long term.

this is the cost no one wants to talk about, and I think we are realizing its MASSIVE

mass immigration was cooked up by the boomers as one last fuck you to the world as the sail off into the sunset, the whole point is to balloon the young workforce to be taxed and pay for MUH SOCIAL SECURITY MUH MEDICARE MUH OLD PEOPLE BENNIES

we
are
their
slaves

they don't give a shit what it does to the culture in the long run, Merkel just needs to keep those pension checks flowing to the faggot old people

the biggest joke is that these third wold people don't even work THEY ARE JUST AS MUCH OF A DRAIN AS THE BOOMERS THEMSLEVES

so its going to all be on our shoulders, the few white kids those selfish idiots actually did have
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>>69893021

Interesting. I would say any female under 30 is pretty suitable for marriage. Maybe even early 30's if you start on the baby making right away.

I get that it is a culture deal. Japanese men want young virgin wives.
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Japan produces very little, imports a lot, has a huge social expense with an aging population that refuses to die fast, has a lot of unemployment and is suffering from the same globization problem as everyone else.

Top that off with the recurring quakes, landslides and tsunamis, and no economy in the world would grow. Besides, even their high tech industry is failling to keep ahead of China and Korea, and that has been Japan's silver bullet argument against doomsaying, "oh, we so good roboto, everyone wan japan roboto" doesn't fly anymore and they have no other dominant industries. Fishing? China does it better. Cars? Processors? Only cartoon porn, and how long can it last...
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>>69893514
Capitalism is built on consumption. Japs are losing their ability to consume. They need more diversity.
They should import 10 million chinese.
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>>69891082
Shit birth rate.
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>>69893825
The issue is less the Japanese men though, Otakuculture, the avoidance of women in favour of 2d and such is mostly caused by female behaviour.

I.e females have absolutely insane expectations towards their partner, while giving them absolute freedom similar to the West has allowed them to virtually ignore 80% of men for the first 25-30 years of their life chasing that high SMV dick while dropping their own SMV through the floor.

I see people talk a lot about "fixing men", to do so you need to get them invested in society, actually give them a perspective and a long term goal. Which in turn requires one to fix female behaviour, we did away with something virtually every civilization developed out of necessity and called it "progress" and "freedom" when it was absolutely needed for social cohesion and peace.
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>>69894040
Everyone keeps saying it.
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