Why is Trump constantly bashing the Iran deal?
Is it that bad?
>>69890156
its bad for saudi arabia, iran is the only nation that can challenge the saudis for regional economic dominance and defacto control one of the most important shipping lanes on earth. normalization is bad for them because iran is no unshackeled,
and its bad for isreal for mostly the same reasone plus muh nukes.
>>69890156
its bad in the sense we had a lot of leverage and got almost nothing in return for giving it all up to someone who has been begging for it forever. it was a pretty shitty deal.
>>69890156
>Why is Trump constantly bashing the Iran deal?
Because Isreal is America's GREATEST ALLY
>>69890565
Pretty much this, could have gotten more out of it. Obama was too eager to make a deal.
It's not going to let Iran make any nukes.
>>69890565
They did fullfill their end of the bargain though didnt they?
>>69890734
mostly yes, whetehter they will continue to do so is another issue but it looks promiseing.
>>69890156
It's bad for Israel, Trump just so happens to love sucking on Jewish cock.
>>69890156
It's bad because Israel says it's bad. It's not really bad and it's not even a deal. It's just ending the embargo and asset freeze the US is doing unilaterally.
There's no legal basis for continuing it.
>>69890565
>>69890725
What else could the Americans have got from the deal?
iran could just back out of the arms control treaty and build as many bombs as isreal has
but they won't
they've been asking for a nuke free zone in the middle east but the us doesn't want that
>>69891553
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/23/netanyahu-thanks-us-blocking-middle-east-nuclear-arms-ban
>>69890734
Are you fucking joking? Even Obongo said they're already violating it
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/04/05/hardliners-all-sides-undermining-irans-nuclear-talks
>>69892259
sauce?
>>69891141
IDK im not a fucking politician, you brazilian pos.
>>69890734
No shit, ahmed, that's not the issue here. Its still a shit deal.
This board is full of autists
>>69891553
>iran could just back out of the arms control treaty and build as many bombs as isreal has
>but they won't
So why they have started building nuclear weapons in the first place?
>>69892978
probably because isreal has a couple hundred nukes pointed at them
Jews run Iran...
>>69892978
because isreal will neither confirm nor deny the possesion of a nuclear arsenal.
>>69893172
What made them change their minds?
>>69893357
change their mind? what do you mean?
>>69893226
don't expect us to be saints, when the world isn't exactly fair with us.
isreal is just a us base in the m/e
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/1-threat-peace-world-guess-who-its-us
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/09/the_top_4_threats_to_global_peace_guess_who_is_number_one_partner/
>>69893501
you said:
"iran could just back out of the arms control treaty and build as many bombs as isreal has"
why they have signed the treaty eventually?
>>69893811
>Salon
Another proof /pol/ allies with leftists.
enjoy your open borders, you deserve them with your leftist Salon friends.
>>69893843
they don't want nuclear proliferation either
>>69894081
they didn't make it up, they just reported it
>>69894098
then why they have started building nuclear weapons in the first place?
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/1-threat-peace-world-guess-who-its-us
>>69890156
It's a fantastic deal for Iran, that's for sure. However, it will only further destabilize the Middle East: which is something neither Europe nor North America can afford right now.
>>69891068
Yeah, it's not really a deal. The US just backed down on every single issue and reversed the US's policy of several decades.
De facto giving a green light for nuclear proliferation.
>>69890634
>>69890831
>Implying a stronger Iran, who sees itself as the enemy of the US, has no effect on the US.
extremely short sighted, but that's probably the hallmark of US foreign policy in the last 50 years.
>>69894225
fear?
don't forget iran doesn't have nukes
and iran says it's building nuclear power plants not nukes
>>69893608
i dont, im acctually fine with isreal being ambiguous about it, it prevents wars. just pointing out the why.
>>69894171
So why didn't you bring a normal source? I'm not clicking on this bulshit site.
>>69894266
ok
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>>69894424
>and iran says it's building nuclear power plants not nukes
do you believe that?
>>69894424
every summer terhan has to make ppl stop driving close schools ect because of smog
Iran gets $150 billion, we get...?
good deals provide roughly equal value to both sides
>>69894739
yes
Iran's Been Two Years Away From a Nuclear Weapon for since the 1980's.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/iran-has-been-two-years-away-from-a-nuclear-bomb-since-the-1980s/389333/
>>69894790
it's their money
>>69894790
>being this retarded.
>using "we" as a canadian.
not sure sure if you're a jidf or just stupid
>>69894364
Well, US is the only country losing money over the deal, Europe is actually benefiting from it by increasing sales.
See Iran doesn't see most of cucked to Islam Europe as an enemy, unlike the US.
>>69894424
IAEA says differently.
The reason Iran started working on nukes is both for defensive purposes against super power meddling and offensive power projection (not actually nuking other countries).
Imagine how would the US react if Iraq would have had nukes in 1990 Kuwait invasion?
Islamist Iran is expansionist, it's down in the ideology of the Islamic revolution led by Khomeini, one of the principles is "exporting the revolution".
Iran has declared expansionist ambitions in Iraq, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, and parts of the UAE.
>>69894836
why it took them more than 20 years and they have not achieved any results? Not even a nuclear power station.
>>69893608
>don't expect us to be saints, when the world isn't exactly fair with us.
Because you degenerates keep fucking with people and their countries.
It's going to go something like this with a Dem president:
>Iran develops long range missile capabilities
US:Hey don't do that
>Iran successfully tests said missiles
US:Hey now
>Iran refines nuclear material to weapons grade material
US: Pls stop
>Iran develops nuclear weapons
US: Hey you agreed to that deal
>Iran tests said nuclear weapons
US: Ok please don't actually use them
>Iran uses them on one of our allies
US: Oh golly gee
>>69895177
Because Mossad keeps bombing their facilities and kidnapping/assassinating their scientists.
Mossad honestly seems like one of the most effective intelligence agency in the world, save for the fact they get exposed an awful lot.
>>69894808
so do you think that the American intelligence lied or they just don't know what they're talking about?
>>69895098
https://www.google.ca/search?q=iran+has+not+attacked+another+country+in+over+200+years&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=0oYCV9qyBIbc-QHU5rmoDw#q=iran+hasn%27t+attacked+another+country+in+over+200+years
>>69895686
>American intelligence lied
>Saddam got WMD you guise, trust us.
>>69894790
>we get...?
Large orders for Bombardier , 100 of them
>>69895900
and the German intelligence?
>In 2009, the Wall Street Journal reported that Germany's foreign intelligence agency, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), amassed evidence of a sophisticated Iranian nuclear weapons program that continued beyond 2003
>>69890156
>Why is Trump constantly bashing the Iran deal?
Trump's Trusted Adviser on International Matters is Sarah 'Nailin' Palin , you figure that out yourself
http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/20/donald-trump-in-2007-we-have-to-strike-iran/
>>69895845
Iran has not attacked another country, except sending marines to seize islands from the UAE in 1971, breaking an agreement between the countries.
Or sending Quds force to fight against the gov in Yemen and Lebanon (civil war), sponsoring terrorism in Kuwait and Bahrain, and aiding the Muslims in the Balkan wars.
As for US and Iran nuclear cooperation, that was for peaceful purposes only.
Notice how no one gives a fuck about the nuclear power plant Russia is building for Iran in Bushehr?
Or about this:
>Egypt, Russia sign deal to build a nuclear power plant
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-russia-egypt-idUSKCN0T81YY20151119
Why are you obfuscating civilian use nuclear tech with military, or highly suspicious dual use?
impossible to have an intellectually honest discussion with some people. You're not here to discuss but to lay thick an agenda.
>>69896520
Again Trump proves he is an intelligent person.
A simple strike, like we made against the Iraqi nuclear program, or the Syrian one, could have easily and painlessly solved the entire issue all together.
A similar action against NK nuclear program could have prevented them from gaining nukes.
>>69896579
>Balkan wars?
you stole palistine golan hights,part of the sinai. you arent so pure either
>>69896727
thinks like a war criminal
>>69896886
just admit it, you are a muslim.
family was a little catholic, I'm an atheist
>>69897204
>>69896727
the us should probably strike your facilities then, eh?
>>69897204
>family was a little catholic
>was
what happened to these kafirs?
>>69896886
lol, typical leftist rhetoric, immediately change the subject.
>>69896954
lol hello Ahmed/SWJ radical leftist, what are you doing on /pol/?
>>69897204
>>69897428
Again irrelevant.
What is relevant? The fact that even Russia supported, or not opposed the sanctions put against Iran.
Russia has gone further than the UN sanctions required and suspended the S-300 sale for Iran.
Keep sliding all the hard questions.
>>69897615
Too late now, as it is against NK. But It wouldn't have been unreasonable for the US to act against the Israeli nuclear program at the time, especially since we were not allied back then.
Can you be as consistent? Or are you only capable to changing the subject?
>>69897790
they don not believe in sky spooks anymore
>>69897851
and the rest of the world has just about had it with that bs
if the us attacks iran, ww3
>>69898091
>and the rest of the world has just about had it with that bs
Typical SWJ, he thinks he speaks for the world....
>if the us attacks iran, ww3
t. Iranian ex pat.
Lol, no one would give a shit if the US bombed the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Or do you think Russia would nuke NY over that? huh, most likely everyone would say good riddance.
leftist
>>69898351
>>69897204
>>69895845
>>69894763
Master of avoiding the context of what was said, doesn't even bring the article, but whatever google search shows
>>69895686
Iranians were building enrichment facilities. Not actual warheads, which constitute as nuclear weapons.
They simply want a surplus of enriched uranium so they can mass produce nuclear warheads on a quick notice. A number of other countries like Japan do the same.
After this whole shit they probably are going to build nukes though. And if they nuke Israel, I honestly don't give a shit. I know that they won't direct attack US, nor do they have the capabilities to do so.
>>69898380
>Typical SWJ, he thinks he speaks for the world
>>69893811
>>69890156
cuz america will not benefit from it . all the money and trad will go to europe. they will buy european cars,trains,airplanes. and when the ars embargo ban is lifted to they will buy shit ton of european weapon.
>>69898454
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-sanders-troubling-history-supporting-us-military-violence-abroad
>Sanders supported Bill Clinton’s war on Serbia, voted for the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF), which pretty much allowed Bush to wage war wherever he wanted, backed Obama’s Libyan debacle and supports an expanded US role in the Syrian Civil War.
>More problematic for the Senator in Birkenstocks is the little-known fact that Bernie Sanders himself voted twice in support of regime change in Iraq. In 1998 Sanders voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which said: “It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime.”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/16/blood-traces-bernies-iraq-war-hypocrisy/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/bernie-sanders-loves-this-1-trillion-war-machine.html
>>69898859
>>Sanders supported Bill Clinton’s war on Serbia
it was a cia fake war
now he says no more
>>69898351
>Bernie Sanders Voting Record Antithetical To His Purported Anti-War Stance
>In spite of claims of being antiwar, his “hawkish” support of Clinton’s military actions in the 1999 Kosovo War caused one of his advisers to quit. When antiwar activists occupied Sanders’ office in 1999 because of that support of Clinton’s war policies, he had them arrested.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/bernie-sanders-voting-record-antithetical-to-his-purported-anti-war-stance/208066/
Never doubt the ability of radical leftists to deny reality.
>>69898552
That's not what the poll says, it says nothing about Iran.
>>69898798
More so from Russia and China, but from Europe as well. All except the US, which they view as their enemy...
>>69898527
>I know that they won't direct attack US, nor do they have the capabilities to do so.
Good luck
>>69899078
you said I think I speak for the world
those stories say the people of the middle east think the us is the threat, not iran
>>69899075
Had anti war protesters jailed
Supported war in Serbia
Supported actions against Saddam in Iraq
Refused to oppose war in Afghanistan
Supported regime change interventionism in Iraq
Supported regime change interventionism in Libya
Supported Obama's intervention in Syria.
Election time:
No more wars, I promise...
Typical leftist self delusion.
>>69895098
If anyone's expansionist it's you, you filthy Jew kike. Get out of Palestine before a second shoah.
>>69899417
lol get fucked we reconquested our ancient land and we're keeping it for good.
Fuck the Saudis, they are stretching their leash way too much with this ISIS shit and oil overproduction. Let Iran fuck them up
>>69899482
soon as americans start closing bases, you're on your own
I don't see why americans won't make peace with iran, they are more civilized and have more oil then daudi arabia
>>69899417
Reconqested? More like handed on a platter by the Eternal Anglo. You could've chosen to live peacefully with the Arabs as Jews had lived for centuries but no you've got to be as racist as the Nazis?
Do all Israelis hate Palestinians? Can thr one secular state formula work?
>>69899482
you're too kind on yourself.
>>69899482
I hope you don't actually believe this. You guys begged us and we pretty much gave it to you.
>>69899988
Meant for >>69899482
Also check those digits.
