>believes in the Self above all and Objectivism
>encourages people to stay and fight in their countries rather than run away to safety
How can you possibly reconcile these two beliefs?
>>69889274
" Self above all" means to defend your interests in order to prosper, it also means to fight what you believe in . It is not a evolutionary concept of basic survival therefore your assumption is invalid.
Because dumb as shit muslims staying in their countries is in my best interest
>>69889274
I've listen to most of this guy's podcasts/videos and I sincerely think he's a retard
He's only consistent in his "RELIGION IS BAD PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW RELIGION ARE EVIL" rants
NOT
>>69889893
>I sincerely think he's a retard
Not an argument.
>>69889893
>think someone is a retard
>sit and listen to hundreds of hours of their ideas
Are you autistic?
>>69889274
>How can you possibly reconcile these two beliefs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsh_b70NSFQ
>>69889893
I read the title of his videos then I think what he's going to say. Then I watch the video and he says exactly what I think with more info and insight.
Your vagina means you don't operate on logic so you disagree with him.
>>69889274
His theory of universal preferences is fucking stupid and full of holes and logical inconsistencies.
He tries way to hard. It's a shame because I think he is a smart guy and he can make some solid arguments.
>>69890600
>is fucking stupid
not an argument
>full of holes and logical inconsistencies.
such as?
>>69890682
for example the 2 dollar-shape holes, of which only one can be filled, since you've sent merely one dollar.
>>69890682
>not an argument
not an argument
>such as?
not an argument
>>69889274
this is basically national socialism
" make your country better by being a better person yourself "
>>69889274
>>encourages people to stay and fight in their countries rather than run away to safety
Within the current system this is how you should act according to him.
In an Objectivist / Anarcho-Capitalist system this would be redundant.
>>69889274
I believe in the STEF above all
also not an argument
>tfw reading Universally Preferable Behaviour
I don't know how to process this fucking book. The whole time, he never really convinces me of his "Proofs", but I can't find any fault in them. I also can't get the image of his bald fucking head, glistening with sweat under the white-blue light of his computer monitor as he shits out another paragraph about slaying the great dragon that is the state.
To be fair though, none of this is an argument.
>>69890895
>greentext to present the opposing argument
not an argument
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>>69891355
Not an argument.
how would one even be objective and virtuous while fighting for an ideal Syria? You'd have to go lone wolf vigilantly style or assimilate to the psychopaths.
>>69891223
>Within the current system this is how you should act according to him.
this is what bothers me. moral imperatives apply at all times in all places, so his "I'm anti-immigration to prevent more violence" is
>1. - utilitarian
>2. - immoral
he should debate Adam Kokesh on this.
>objectivism
Stirnerian egoism is better.
>>69890247
More likely just a liar.
>>69891540
Pointing out logical fallacies is in fact an argument. On the other hand, making emotional statements, or statements based on pure conjecture, are not arguments.
>>69892722
Not an argument.
Do you know the difference between a citizen and civilian is?
>>69889274
Because staying, fighting, and winning is more beneficial than running away to inferior lands.
>>69892722
not an argument
He looks like a faggot that will run away as soon as he hears a gunshot
>>69891690
Open borders isn't libertarian, its global communism. Read Hoppe faggot.
>>69893227
>tfw someone saves your stef OC
Now THIS is Universally Preferable Behaviour.
>le racist cult leader man
>consistently creates ~1 hour long clear and informative presentations
>consistently cites over 20 sources in his videos
>is non-PC
>race realist
>defends trump
>somehow /pol/ calls him a retard
NOT
AN
ARGUMENT
>>69893322
sounds to me like you support him getting shot
>>69889274
Because fighting for and being a part of a collective increase your chances of survival drastically, therefore being a part of a collective is advantageous for the individual. There's a reason we humans evolved human relationship instincts, to better fit in with the crowd. And- say you just run away from all the problems of the west. You come out of hiding 50 years later, and your people, who are most similar to you in genetics, is destroyed. You will have failed at securing your people's right to reproduce, and exist. Edgy autistic teenage pseudo-intellectuals often argue about whether nihilism, anarchy, and individualism is superior or not to collectivism. And the truth is, both are needed, and are mutually inclusive. Basically, belief in the self means that you want to be a part of the collective, so that you, as an individual, can survive.
>>69889274
Thinking of donating to this guy, his stuff is quite interesting. How much should I donate? I was thinking a dollar. (I'm quite poor at the moment)
>>69893322
You're just use to it because your entire """"country"""" is a warzone
>>69894410
match the bernie donors
>>69889274
u wot m8
doesn't it tend to be in peoples general self-interest to strengthen their own communities?
if I'm a jew in israel for instance, I'd want to make my country as strong as possible to keep arabs from kicking my shit in
>>69889274
You can't. Libertarianism is irreconcilable with nationalism despite what a few memesters on /pol/ say.
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>>69890390
Not an argument
He's you guys if you actually knew how to talk
Molyneux is an educated racist, he's just not racist enough for my tastes
The day he says "Gas the kikes race war now" I'll actually take his opinion seriously
GUN
IN
THE
ROOM
>>69894757
/pol/ is a melting pot of Ancap race realists and Natsoc white supremacists.
>>69889274
I really don't get you collectivist idiots who think that an individualist has to be a coward or never, ever, EVER share an interest with somebody else and work with them to help achieve your mutual goals.
>>69893339
Open borders is "freedom" though. Only the state can prevent people coming in, firms excercise their "freedom" by importing shitskins to do jobs for low wages. It's global capitalism that drives immigration actually. Communism as an internationalist idea died with Trotsky. I don't like communism by any means but pretending like it's even an influential thing anymore is laughable. Even far leftists (real far leftists) are against globalism, the EU, international banking etc. "Money conservatives" (of which libertarians fall into) love open borders because it drives the economy.
>>69889274
mfw I came here to see some arguments but coudn't find any.
>>69895040
Yeah. But the libertarians are a minority and they just add "national" at the beginning so /pol/ doesn't reject them outright. There's nothing nationalist about whoring your nation out to private companies, giving kikes free reign to promote liberalism via the media, letting companies pollute the environment etc.
>>69895286
Ancap libertarians don't like open borders because failure to integrate, exploitation of the welfare state and so on chips away at western civilisations and will lead to their demise
If you have any arguments just keep me posted.
>>69895591
I've seen 30 Stefan threads over the past couple of months. Collectively, I've read about 3000 posts. I can safely say that not a single post was an argument.
>>69895503
Yet taking power away from the state only gives it the rich, who have a vested interest in open borders. /pol/ is stuck in the 20's when they bitch about "Marxism" like it's an actual thing anymore. The SJW morons are just useful idiots spreading the capitalist agenda.
>>69893322
id run away and get some cover too because in not some fucking little jew kid who dreams about being a indestructible IDF commando that burns Palestinian babies with white phosphor
>>69889274
He's a based fedora. In other words, a retard with some good nationalistic integrity
>>69895757
>Collectively, I've read about 3000 posts
>Collectively
Fuck off you filthy r selected commie, you will never be a rugged Objectivist Libertarian Ancap individualist like us.
>>69895757
top kek almost spit my food at the guy infront of me in the food court.
>>69894313
Nice
This reminds me of a video he did where he broke down people into something
called /r/ types and /k/types? Herd mentality (I think he used deers as an example) and /k/ which are groups more likely to defend the young and women from predators while /r/s dont and just procreate more and run away from problems.
Something to do with these groups of people being at odds with each other.
>>69896088
>sitting alone in a food court
>on /pol/ on your phone
You should hang yourself now tbqh
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Not an argument
>>69894410
I am thinking the same I will probably donate 10, usd of course
>>69896288
Reported post. Enjoy your ban.
>>69896384
>announcing reports
>>69896571
I'm a janitor so I do what I want. Fuck off before I mark you for ban.
>>69896384
Do you support me being shot?
>>69895764
You can be an anarchist/right libertarian and be against open borders if you subscribe to tribalist/minarchist ideas as well, they're not mutually exclusive.
>>69896738
Were you spanked as a child?
>>69895286
are you retarded? in a society without a state movement would be more restricted as everything would be private property, how many people do you allow to just walk around in your house? not that many.
>>69889274
>2016
>being a paranoid, xenophobic, racist faggot afraid of a few harmless migrants
>>69893898
Pretty much this.
Why does /pol/ hate him again? He begs for money? I guess that's scummy enough but hey why not profit of the people willing to donate and expand your influence? I thought you liked capitalism and free market?
He doesn't support child beatings? I kinda disagree with that too, children are in need of discipline, not with vicious beatings, of course not but a occasional slap or a spank is needed. Otherwise you're seen as weak and even your own kids will give you shit. I know a dude who's a complete meek faggot with his son and his son literally calls him an idiot to his face.
He's a Jew? I thought he was French. Even if he is a Jew he calls them out on a lot of shit.
Is he a smarmy smug cunt? Well sometimes when he goes into his heritage but so are people here who know and are proud of their ancestors. Nothing wrong with that, especially if you're in the right.
Really his videos calling out the media cover ups, lying about Trump and immigration are easy to digest and objective, backed with sources. He's at least red-pilling the masses and normies. Do you have a platform to speak from and state the truths? If no get to it, we need more people that are educated and willing to speak out in a calm and collected way. The day you open up the eyes of millions of normalfags is the day you're justified in shitting on this man.
>inb4 argument meme parrot because you can't refute this
>>69896807
My parents espoused the idea of peaceful parenting; also not an argument.
>>69897044
seen as weak?
you're saying hitting a defenseless child will make you look tough then?
wow lmao, what a good example to set for your kids
just hit people to make them stop doing what you don't like
be sure to try it on your wife!
>>69897044
>Is he a smarmy smug cunt?
honestly my biggest problem with his videos is when he starts condescendingly talking down to people who agree with him for not agreeing with him enough/in the right ways
>>69897496
When a child is young its mind is not developed enough that you can reason with them. Sometimes pain is the best teacher. I almost died twice as a mischievous kid because I was unaware of the dangers of jumping from the top of the balcony, the thoughts never occurred to me and I went against the warnings because fuck the police. After trying it twice I got a slap across the mouth and I never even attempted to do it again. Once I was all grown up I was appreciative of that one single slap.
In his comments I saw a man who was relieved of not being a "villain" once he stopped spanking his sons. Of course your life is easier if you're not beating your fucking kids but in most of the cases it's for their own good. "This hurts more than it hurts you" has some grounding.
Again, Stefan is clearly emotionally invested in this particular topic so we can't expect objectivity from him. Who knows what happened in his early life. This doesn't change the fact that his other videos are neat and useful, especially to a lot of young people who were too politically correct. See all those Germans now calling and talking to him about their country.
>>69897500
He needs to correct them in that turn. When that one German woman said:"I'm being optimistic" when they talked about the rapefugees it's perfectly fine to correct even the wording she used.
I don't think you need to beat your kid.
My father would send me to my room and use force (grab me) if I wouldn't go.
This is better then hitting a child but still shows you won't allow disobedience.
He would also take away my favorite toys or TV privileges and other shit if I behaved badly or didn't do decent on my schooling.
You can discipline your kid without hitting them.
>>69898294
So it's okay to beat people who don't know better?
so you should hit 2 year olds, retards, and sometimes the elderly right?
also being appreciative of abuse is called stockholm syndrome
and no you actually can be quite objective about it
it's either ok to hit defenseless people (who don't even know better according to you lel) not out of self defense just to change their behavior or it isn't
so good luck being on the right side of that cuck, hope you never have kids
He believes there will come a time where evil will not be part of society because we won't get exposed to it.
He's more like a communist than he'd like to admit.
>>69898746
He's from Monetengro, he has stockholm syndrome from the USSR. Desperate to be cucked by that filthy strongman alpha Stalin again.
>>69898746
>So it's okay to beat people who don't know better?
Sometimes that's the case.
>so you should hit 2 year olds, retards, and sometimes the elderly right?
No, no and no. These wouldn't be the right cases.
See it like this. People are right now, as we speak, trying to teach African refugees >not< to rape. It clearly isn't working. Sometimes a little bit of violence saves innocent lives from harm. If we enforced the law on our borders the massive instances of rapes, thievery, bombings, shootings would not have happened.
When your kid is being in his rebellious years and wishes to try out cigarettes you slap them out of his hands as a father figure. No amount of sugarcoating and kind words would convince him.
>>69899024
We were never under the USSR. Tito was at great odds with Stalin.
>>69898294
>i was a retard as a kid
>this justifies billions of people abusing their children
wew lad
not even CLOSE to an argument
>>69889274
>believes in objectivism
Not anymore faggot OP
this election season has been nothing but moral relativism so he can justify his mental gymnastics
He's as bad as Politifact now with what he puts attention/emphasis on and doesnt
>>69899516
>If we enforced the law on our borders the massive instances of rapes, thievery, bombings, shootings would not have happened.
I think you mean if Trump didn't piss off the Muslims and bait the Belgium's none of that would have happened.
>>69889274
Maybe the latter is a means to the former.
>>69896384
Not an argument.
>>69899960
>Implying somehow islamic terrorism didn't' exist before Trump.
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>>69889274
The Self can be concerned with other things outside of the self. It's that easy.
>>69899960
>Blaming Trump for Belgium's terrorists
>>69889893
>"RELIGION IS BAD PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW RELIGION ARE EVIL" rants
Never seen/heard this and I've never got the sense of this from him
The last podcast where he mentioned religion was in the Christians/Catholics vs being a Muslim
It was something like
>If you leave the Church, the worst thing is having to awkwardly sing Christmas carols vs if you "stop" being a Muslim, you'll probably go to jail or die
>>69901894
>those chompers
Do brits just eat rocks and glass?
I thought those cucks boiled all their food into a mush
>>69896384
Do you support me being banned?
>>69891504
unless you are a nihilist, ancaps have the most bulletproof arguments
and if you are a nihilist, it doesn't matter what you think
>>69896006
Daily reminder that YOUR DADDY'S RICH
AND YOUR MAMA'S
GOOOD LOOOOKIN'
>>69889274
Because getting overrun by low IQ Muslims/"people" that will burn everything to the ground both literally and metaphorically is much worse than living in a homogeneous society run by a government.
>>69907899
>government
>running a homogenous society
NOT
>>69889274
The guy is another libertarian, relativist, evolutionist (meaning that he explains all things through evolution). Listening to him is a waste of time
