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Is anything going to change because of this?
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>>69862610
No, because anything seriously damaging is being held back by the people with the actual papers
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>>69862610
Doubtful.
Snowden didn't change anything.
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>>69862610
> is soros shilling going to change anything

No
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>>69862822
Snowden did help foster the creation and maintenance of privacy groups, and sparked an interest in privacy/anonymity. Though not mainstream, it certainly is of some impact.
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>>69862610

Yes.

People will use different firms to help them hide their money.

Ones with better security that can prevent leaks.
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>>69862739
Apparently Wikileaks is asking if they should publish. You think this might be bluff?
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>>69862926

less than 1% of the shit he leaked had anything to do with domestic surveillance

it was almost entirely foreign intelligence collection methods

>b-but muh metadata

the motherfucker should be hung
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>>69862610
Yes. More Russia basing to hide other world events.
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>>69863081
*hanged
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>>69862610
Not fundamentally. Which is my guess you're implying.
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>>69863081
>doesn't even know that it's "hanged" not "hung"

I love your armchair geopolitical analysis though
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>>69862610

Nobody guilty will be punished.

The leaks conveniently avoid US interests.

However the bag of bile and cynicism is growing uncomfortably large. The general awareness that what used to be tin foil talk or things just hinted at and taken as truths (like that the same pols that were chastising banks are hiding their own cash and investing in bullshit) is in fact verifiably true.

It moves the marker of tin foil deeper. Meaning things that were "are you nuts" is now looking plausible.

The question is just when the violent reaction comes.
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anyone give me the tl dr?
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>>69862953
If they don't have it, how can they publish?
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>>69863405
TL;DR Big names in business, politics, and sports used fake companies to evade trillions of dollars worth in tax money.
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Where the fuck is the uncensored file ?
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>>69863640
this is news? is anyone actually surprised by this?
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>>69863650
This is what I am waiting on. A searchable database, like Saudi Cables or Clinton Emails

>>69863727
Surprised, No. Finally having proof of people implicated, yes
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>>69863727
Through skillful journalism, they've determined that Putin has rich friends. And David Cameron's father owns a company. Yuge
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>>69863727
A shell company is a company set up in a location that allows it's owners to not be named.

Lots of people use shell companies for legitimate (say Google investing in VR without tipping of MS of it's investments) and illegitimate reasons (hiding money from governments for tax or legal reasons).

A law firm in Panama, Mossack Fonseca, helped set up an enormous number of shell companies for both legitimate and illegitimate clients.

A huge group of journalists just discovered an enormous number of Mossack Fonseca records linking the actual owners to many shell companies. This information will potentially allow governments to investigate the actual owners for tax evasion or a host of financial crimes.
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>>69863727
Yes and no. Same as with Snowden.
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>>69862610
Ohwaityou'reseriousletmelaughevenharder.webm
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>>69863081
At least he used a buffer before publishing, unlike Manning
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Why are these threads sliding so fast yet other fucking shit threads last all day ?
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>>69863304

>The question is just when the violent reaction comes.

The true test of any revelation
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>>69863554
I also am wondering this.
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>>69864043
If its released and shown to have been modified the shitstorm will be glorious.
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>>69862610
Everyone with a basic sense of the world already knew this.

>rich people hiding their money is somehow a global scandal
Boooring
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>>69862610
lol, no... well, maybe, they'll undermine people's capacity to affect their interests even more.
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>>69864530
I hate this logic.

> Hur dur I knew about it before everyone aren't I cool

Of course everyone knew this was happening, we just needed proof.
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>>69863123
this

they're already mentioning only putin and assad but we'll see how this will unfold in the next days

so far it looks jut like another shill operation
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>>69862610
Clinton, Bernie sanders, ted Cruz names will be inside then but TRUMPs name won't.
>see? I want to make money legally. Legally.
A man can dream right?
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>>69862822
Still baffling how no one lost their jobs after prism leaked. Fuck, Joe Citizen didn't even give a shit.
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>>69862610
it won't
a few governments worldwide will fall, but nothing will change


nothing will ever change
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>>69862610
It's just meme journalism, the new Kony 2012.

All it claims is "evil guys like putin evade taxes and use offshore accounts to finance evil guys like assad... stop evil! support the moderate democratic freedom fighters in syria!"
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>>69864767

Bernie Sanders name would make sense as he's only 'worth' $500,000.
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>>69864404
>>69864662

This is why I am waiting for the actual data prior to forming opinion
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>>69862610
it's a media hype

the papers show that people hold anonymous companies based overseas
that's not illegal, it just isn't.

they are insinuating that individuals are doing it for he purpose of tax evasion
maybe some are.
but they are implicating everyone who uses the firm (one of many) in illegal activity

people use shell companes for a range of reasons
A. to stop them being targeted by people who have a personal issue with the owner
B. for negotiations, to stop buyers underpaying for something because of what they know about the financial situation of the owner.
C. for PR reasons, to hide their assets from media who want to do a beat-up on the wealthy, to stop various boycot movements
D. for legal jurisdiction reasons so people from different countries have the same rights

people should be putting pressure on their national tax agencies to investigate, and wait for a result before slandering people
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>>69862610
Yes, more people will go to Panama for vacation, because they read about Panama. It is a really cool country.
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>>69862610
>change because of this ?
yes it will

>reason why
because people who are banned from trading or buying things by the west, can go around this embargos with offshore accounts.

>One example
the coussin of bashir al assad, has an offshore account in panama. The Assad regimes is banned from buying fuel for its jets from the western countries and their allies. Now, as you dont know the real owners behind this offshore accounts, you can buy fuel for the syrian army from western companies wihtout any consequences. If there is a real interest in those embargos, this things will be changed.
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>>69864631
That might change when the numbers (in currency) come to light
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>>69862610
Nothing

> Cayman Islands Scam nothing changed
> LuxLeaks nothing changed
> PWC Leaks nothing changed
> Panama Papers nothing will change

Not that those leaks are not welcome or important but the majority of the worlds population is to stupid to understandwhat it actually means
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1. WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE PANAMA PAPERS? JESUS FUCK WHAT A COCKTEASE
2. ICIJ IS NOT NEUTRAL
3. Whoever leaked this shit didn't send em straight to Wikileaks. WHY?
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Nope.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-03/mossack-fonseca-nazi-cia-and-nevada-connections-and-why-its-now-rothschilds-turn

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-27/how-rothschilds-made-america-their-private-tax-fraud-backyard
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>>69865188
>> Cayman Islands Scam nothing changed
>> LuxLeaks nothing changed
>> PWC Leaks nothing changed
>> Panama Papers nothing will change

Luxembourg flag... yeah sure.
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>>69862610
Its like the guys at the casino in casa blanca. 'middle eastern dictators have offshore accounts? shocked, I am'...
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>>69864696
>wake up
>turn on tv
>news
>panama papers
>some faggot """"journalist"""" talking
>mentions putin at least 100 times in 4-5 minutes sometimes just repeating his name
>no murican or western europe name present
>that cunt says because there is no corruption
>fuck off, get on the internet to see what the fuck happened last night
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>>69865558
>Luxembourg flag... yeah sure.

That is exactly why i know what i am talking about.

You can't believe how many european and non european countries are still laundring their money here.

But Germany you are no better just look at Brandenburger IT Abkommen.
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>>69865258
>didn't send em straight to Wikileaks. WHY?
Because Wikileaks has become a CIA honeypot.
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>>69862610
SLIDE IT
>Nothing to see here. YOU'RE not some crazy who would believe this leftist garbage about the rich not paying their fair share, would you? Don't listen to the commies.
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>>69865826
>You can't believe how many european and non european countries are still laundring their money here.
I know. We have a Luxembourg entities which we use in our structures as well. It is a legal way to optimize taxes, specifically to get around German real estate transfer tax and capital gains tax, plus the corporate law is a lot better and more flexible than in Germany.
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>>69862953
It's not a bluff. BBC and the Guardian already have access.
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>>69862610
Yes I'm a little bit fucked because I avoided tons of child support through that way.
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>>69865899
Explain? Wikileaks is sure as hell a lot more unbiased than fucking ICIJ
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>>69866137
because wikileaks is just publishing things. They do not write reports of what they publish.
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>>69865765
the same thing is happening here

liberal media are strong here and they're by far the most popular so they influence a lot of people

croatia is a lost cause
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>>69866048
Exactly and it's not only the Germans doing it.

Middle East discovered it around 15 years ago. Asia especially South Korea, China and Japan is starting it strongly.
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Funny to see how this is the main news story in every other country except the US.
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>>69866253
I would rather take 2.6tb of raw data than hear all of the mainstream medias of the world chant "this is the new enemy!" in unison
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>>69863081
He isn't a shirt anon
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>>69862610
>naive
If only
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>>69866402
So you would rather read more than 15 Million documents on your own, than to believe that more than 400 journalist from more than 80 countries, are not all corrupt. The research on this topic was not done by the mainstream media. You should google it and take a little look on who has done this researches.
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>>69866048
Doesn't the German real estate transfer tax apply to all real estates located in Germany regardless of the owners location? I bought two houses in Germany 6 years ago to hide money, now if I want to sell, its going to be expensive. Especially since I didn't own them at least 10 years
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>>69866569
I would. There are no US officals named, I call bullshit.
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>>69866569
Why not both?
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>>69864977
you're missing -phantom shell companies- they're on the leaks...
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>>69862610
>trusting lügenpresse
>ever
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>>69866870
They're not done with research, they have two tb of documents and spreadsheets, several journaliss have tweeted that they have shit on the US
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>>69865765
>>69865765
>no american name or western europe name present

Father of Cameron
Island Premier Minister
members of the house of lords
members of the house of commons
relatives to the Spanish crown
Banks from Austria, Germany, Uk, Switzerland, Luxemburg etc
a former member of the EU Parliament

How many more do you want ?
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>>69862610
beligum is releasing all rich peoples names http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-03/unprecedented-leak-exposes-criminal-financial-dealings-some-worlds-wealthiest-people
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>>69866870
There is US data in the leak. We just have to wait until the media decides to drop the bomb.
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i've always been poor and partially stupid at seeing cause effect but what's the big deal?

it's their money they keep it where they want? if i had a lot of money i keep it where it's the most safe and less taxed why is that bad?
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>>69866861
Isn't that dependable on the usage of said buildings ?
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>>69866870
yea because this company mostly worked together with European banks. This is not the only company who is doing things like this.
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>>69866569
>inb4 /pol/ finds 400 Jewish connections
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>>69866870
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-media-gatekeepers-protect-western-1-from-panama-leak/
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>>69866569
>So you would rather read more than 15 Million documents on your own, than to believe that more than 400 journalist from more than 80 countries, are not all corrupt.
No. I would take their word with a grain of salt, but I would also like the documents myself. There is zero reason to keep them behind closed doors except to raise a lot of suspicion.
>The research on this topic was not done by the mainstream media. You should google it and take a little look on who has done this researches.
At least in Finland, the research was done only by the state-owned media YLE. In the UK it was done by BBC and Guardian.

I will gladly take the word of ICIJ but the word of ICIJ ALONE is as good as an entire world full of dog shit. The raw files are what matter.
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>>69867275
what kind of sense would this make ?
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>>69865659
I do have to say, I expected better of Iceland.

I mean come on. Iceland.
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>>69863081
I heard he is pretty hung actually.
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>>69862610
I see KONY 2012 andf Occupy Wall, street Vibes here
This shit is fishy as fuck and the media's way to undermine Russia while hiding the fact that the world economy is collapsing
This this is just a meme in a few months everyone will be against it
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>>69867316
None but then /pol/ would say that "the Jews did this" and claim that the entire thing is fake propaganda
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>>69867380
the fuck phone is fucking up with its autocorrect BS
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>>69867172
You think Trump's name will come up?

MAGA!
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>>69867307
>why not publishing everything
how do you publish content, which is huge, and which is immediately attacked from hackers all around the world to shut this site down. Also there is one huge problem. Its not legal to publish the raw data, because the act of gaining the data was illegal.
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>>69867197

It's not a matter of storing money. It's a matter of using money you would be taxed on and claiming it as an investment in to a company that doesn't exist and then getting back the vast majority of that money after taxes have been done.

It's fraudulent.

It's also used as a way for governments to give kick backs to friends, family, or incentives for political things.

All illegal.
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Nothing will change, nothing ever does

Rich people will keep hiding money and poor people will keep buying shit they cant afford
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>>69867452
Trump will be the only one NOT on the list and Sanders will be discovered as pumping a lot of his voters' donations into Panama so he can buy more expensive cars
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>>69867532
also to go around embargos
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>>69867413
But the entire thing is propaganda
Where are the real big names anon?
The media caught up very quickly to the point that they knew this shit was happening
This fiasco as fast to catch media attention like Sandy Hooks and KONY 2012 which are all BS
They minimized Belgium coverage but maximized the coverage for this
Very fishy stuff anon
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>>69867479
>how do you publish content, which is huge,
Torrents
>and which is immediately attacked from hackers all around the world to shut this site down.
what the hell are you saying
>Also there is one huge problem. Its not legal to publish the raw data, because the act of gaining the data was illegal.
I honestly think Wikileaks or Private Trackers would give zero shits.
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>>69862610
Nope.

People will just sit on their asses and post about it. Just like me. Don't be like me.
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>>69867635
>shut this site down
because the most powerfull people all over the world are very interested in not be exposed in public in this way.

>wikileaks gives zero shit
yea this is why assange is hiding in an embassy since a few years now, its only because he dont gives a shit
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>>69867605
The reason all reporters reportedb at the same time is because it made them safe.

If only one journalist dis it he would be killed/dissapeared/in jail instantly. This was planned to be published around the world simultaneously to protect against this
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>>69867635
a 6TB torrent? fuck like anyone's gonna download that.

6 months will have passed before anyone finishes the download and by then no one will give a shit

>implying this will change anything
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>>69867197
This is why you will continue to be poor and stupid.

>inb4 stones to throw u live in Russia durr
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>>69867212
Well I definitely don't live in their for private usage.
One is rented to a family and one to a company
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>>69867741
>because the most powerfull people all over the world are very interested in not be exposed in public in this way.
This has never happened in the history of mankind. Documents once released never disappear.
>yea this is why assange is hiding in an embassy since a few years now, its only because he dont gives a shit
That's exactly the case. He gives zero shits. Has any document been deleted from Wikileaks as a result of his arrest? No.
Not to mention Wikileaks != Assange alone.
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>>69867747
Good point though
Still I got false flag vibes from it, dunno why

the thing's 2.4 tB shit's gonna take a while before the real names pop up
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>>69867755
Maybe with your 56k connection lol
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>>69867124
anyone from USA?
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>>69863640
>>69863727

We all say it like we "know" it but we don't actually have definitive proof. Perhaps this can serve as definitive proof. Also your attitude is the reason why this isn't a big deal, people have already taken politicians being corrupt as such a given, that when we find hard evidence of corruption we don't even actually take the chance to do anything about it and actually hold them accountable for being corrupt.

It basically just lets them get away with it.
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>>69867836
If you buy to rent out, creating capital with the buildings then the taxes apply.

It's different if you use it yourself, even as second housing, or if you stock transit goods there.
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>>69867859
if you think everything is controlled again by someone or a group of people who control the world, believe whatever you want.
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>>69862610
>something leak
>ofcourse Putin is ebil
>noone from USA
well how unexpected!
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>>69868013
The Banks, which worked together with the company in Panama have been European Banks. There is for sure another company in Panama which is working together with American Banks. Also there is not so much need for rich Americans to go this way because the laws and circumstances for financial issues are a lot different in the USA than in Europe.
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>>69868039
That's not what I'm saying, but that's a nice strawman.
My point is that there is zero reason to not publish the raw files.
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>>69867937
It's going to be interesting weeks ahead of us anon. Every week we'll get a tidbit of information
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>>69868013
also there are a few people from the USA. More than 200 companies are related to people or banks or companies in the USA
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-camerons-dad-top-tories-7684150

Ayyy
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800 from Australia the ATO are gonna love this.
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>>69868159
They are planning to publish the raw files in due time. Even the journalists have to make a living somehow.
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>>69864828
>It's just meme journalism, the new Kony 2012.
the fact that they basically made a movie trailer to coincide with the release makes me highly suspicious that this is politics and propaganda and not journalism. the fug they need a hype video for?
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>>69862610
These are being funded by soros and CIA.
The paper that reported this is funded by soros
I would wait until the whole thing is released which I doubt it will be for the public.
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>>69868433
Fair enough, time will tell. Wish the leaker would've at least given us a SHA-1 or something.
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>>69868537
What is Soros even doing? Is he trying to destroy all his competition? Did someone piss him off? Is he just a crazy old fuck that wants to watch the world financial system burn? Does he have his own offshore company that is more secure? Is this to take heat off of him?
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>>69868537
Why would Soros publish information proving corruption of Ukrainian president Poroshenko, three days before the Netherlands has a referendum on the EUs association treaty with Ukraine, a treaty he supports?
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>>69868497
I believe the need for cinematics has more to do with the current state of journalism than sinister motives.

Anyways, in what way would the merchant profit off of spreading information badmouthing the elite?
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>>69867032
what's a phantom shell? that like an enigma wrapped in an enigma?
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>>69863081
pedro detected, build wall.
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>>69862610
Reddit is a joke.
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>>69862610
No.

The only thing that will enact change is voting for Bernie. He will fight for the people.
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>>69868537
Also, this wasn't published by one paper, it's a collaboration between over a hundred media organizations.
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>>69868433
>They are planning to publish the raw files in due time.
Also source on this
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>>69868569
Besides, they are clearly sharing the burden between different countries here. YLE has been participating in the data mining from Finland's side and they will report on Nordea's involvement on this evening's MOT. That's why there aren't any american bomb shells yet, because their news outlets are ready to break this story in the morning.
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>>69868813
It's not unreasonable to believe the wealthy elite own literally every media organization on the planet
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The SZ is a leftist newspaper, they won't publish shit, only muh Putin/Assad etc.
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>>69868813
They originated from the ICIJ, which are funded (among others) by:

Ford Foundation
Carnegie Endowment
Rockefeller Family Fund
W K Kellogg Foundation
Open Society Foundation (Soros)
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>>69868537
I DONT KNOW ANYTHING BUT ILL STILL SAY SOME THIS- IT WAS DEFINETLY MY IDEOLOGICAL ENEMIES DOING THIS!
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>>69868569
>Papers get released
>Everyone who downloads them gets tagged on level 1 international dissident list
>bagged and tagged for the next few months
>happy docile populace are left alone.
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the powerful financial elite fucking over the rest of the world, no news there.
surprise level zero
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I like how RT's reporting of this doesn't mention Putin at all.
https://www.rt.com/news/338270-panama-papers-corruption-report/
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>>69868894
That depends on your definition of reasonable.
>>69868924
Then explain why Soros would undermine the treaty between the EU and Ukraine, the treaty he's been shilling for for ages?
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>>69868675
I just got into this, The German media that published it is funded by Soros society.
Maybe they're doing this without his permission, but it said they're funded by him in the bottom of their page.
Does anyone know if they're going to publish the real papers?
>>69868813
I just got on this, will have to see what happens tomorrow.

I really hope this isn't dont to put Trump's info about some deals.
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>>69869044
I'm not going to speculate, I'm just stating the facts.

Source:
https://www.publicintegrity.org/about/our-work/supporters
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>>69868999
>all those people in the comments defending putin
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>>69869056
Hillary is bound to be these papers. Don't worry anon.
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>United States is the 4th largest client base of the company
>Not one United States person named.
>Leak handled by group sponsored by Soros, Rockfeller
>Non-stop bashing of Putin.

Colour me fucking surprised. Yet another attempt to demonise Putin.

Combined with Kerry/McCain push for war on Russia's border (Ukraine/Azerbaijan), this looks like a multi-faceted, coordinated attempt to overthrow Putin and crush Russia.

I'm not falling for it.
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>>69869044
Poroschenko wants to remove his jewish PM
and his archenemy is a jewish oligarch
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>>69869125
USA based companies probably have better ways of hiding it's money. Just because they're not here doesn't mean they're any less corrupt, just better at hiding their tracks.
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>>69869056
where does stand that they are funded by him ?
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>>69868677
>Anyways, in what way would the merchant profit off of spreading information badmouthing the elite?
it appears that they're badmouthing their political enemies at the moment. putin getting dragged through the mud and no american connections made. the austrian dude seems fairly informed on this though so maybe it's too early for me to go off on a conspiracy tangent. the first batch of leaks definitely seems politically driven though.
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>>69865188
You forgot the recent Unaoil leaks too
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>the first step in war with russia
>putin putin putin all over media with this leak
>find out it's soros funded leak
>dr evil is setting the stage ww3
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>>69869223
There are american connections though they just haven't been named. Wait till Monday morning when american and canadian journalists will start posting articles
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>>69869160
Poroschenko is a jewish oligarch himself who was put into power by the illegal foreign U.S occupation.
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>>69869223
Who are "they"? What common enemy do the Prime Ministers of Iceland, Ukraine and Britain share?
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>>69869295
This pretty much. It's a world jewry globalist effort. Why was the U.S not inscriminated? Why was specifically continental european and russians inscriminated? Doesn't take a genius to figure out.
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>>69869263
Exactly they changed so much that i already forgot em.
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why would they release the info about this now, half-way through being done researching???

I understand going through it and then releasing it -- secrecy keeps everyone safe, then open the floodgates, so it's too late to shut it down
I understand telling everyone they got it and then releasing info as they go through it -- you are worried something will leak, so the moment you have it you use publicity as your shield, then safely release everythin

but this half-way through it bullshit? why?
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>>69869174
No they don't.

There isn't a level above this degree of hiding. Putin and all these people implicated wouldn't use shit tier tax avoidance.

Have a look at statements regarding the release.

The Guardian said they will only release a curated selection, not all.

Not ONE United States implication. Not fucking one. All the way back to the 1970s, not one fucking USA linked name.

BULL FUCKING SHIT

They have the names right there, they're just not going to release them so they can paint Russia/non-USA as corrupt shit holes.
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>>69869223
I agree that it is suspicious that no American connections have been made so far, but I suggest we wait a couple of days. The juiciest bits haven't been dropped yet, the media is gonna milk this for all its worth.
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>>69869125
This
Shit's very fishy

>Handed by Soros and Rockfeller
It makes sense now
Its just another attack piece by the left to undermine the 1%

REMEMBER THIS ANONS
THIS SHIT WILL BE SHILLED EVERYWHERE
DO NOT FALL FOR IT
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>>69869299
>There are american connections though they just haven't been named.
that's why i said it's too early for conspiracy theories.
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>>69862829
Is Soro's/big names (Rothschilds for example) listed in the papers?
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>>69869415
Well, that doesn't make my statement untrue. They're covering their tracks better than the rest, that just might involve incriminating the rest while keeping themselves out of it.

I definitely don't believe there's nothing in there with US implication, I agree with you there.
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>>69869415
They will release the US leaks once the burgers wake up.
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>>69869125
We have to hand it to the americans though, they're fucking great at handling these situations.
Protecting their own and blaming others.
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>>69862610
No sorrow for Soros.
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>mfw people are angry that some people here in Sweden doesn't want to pay 60% taxes that goes to feminist gender critical thinking or immigration from the third world

oy vey stop it. Our society is sick anyway.
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>>69869400
They're not done releasing yet. They're spreading it out.
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>>69869501
>Bomb shell
>WW3 Causing
>Game Changer
>Its Happening
>>>>>>
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>>69869367
today is 4/4. every attack that has happened (that we were told and spammed with by media) has been repeating numbers. i'm not a betting man, but logic would tell me something will probably happen to distract this story

also, infamy.org
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>ICIJ will release the full list of companies and people linked to them in early May.
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>>69869598
Soros' Open Society Foundation is listed as a donor to the institution that runs the institution that leaked the papers.
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Ya'll should get in here and let them know what you think.

https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.snoonet.org/panamapapers/
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why is everyone shilling for Putin this hard?
I get it, you're all "redpilled" by RT and Putin can do no wrong, but in this case, HE ISN'T EVEN BEING THREATENED
he isn't named anywhere and nobody from Pajama Papers said there is anything to release about him.

the only people desperately grasping at straws and tying to tie him to it are Brits, and they have their own agenda against him. their attempts are weak and nobody is paying attention, the only russkies named are some people thrice removed from the president, and at that point you might as well say his cleaning lady is implicated.
chill the fuck out, famliez, nobody is attacking your god emperor
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>>69868790
Look at you! Go India!
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>>69869738
Screencapped.
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>>69869347
>Who are "they"?
media and the people that control the media
>What common enemy do the Prime Ministers of Iceland, Ukraine and Britain share?
none that i can readily discern. i'll wait and see how the media covers this though. i think it's possible to get caught up in this scandal but remain relatively unscathed. wouldnt be surprised if US installed ukranian president gets zero mentions here while putin's ass gets reamed.
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>>69869785
>Propaganda
even the company itself is involved in the propaganda ?
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>>69869832
>media and the people that control the media
and who is this ?
Some names would be great
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>>69869441
>The juiciest bits haven't been dropped yet
i always thought journalists were trained to lead with the juiciest bits. maybe im wrong though.
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>>69869600
What you are saying is that, since the 1970s, every single US company that contracted with the firm, was better at hiding their tracks than Putin and others.

Considering that some of these dumb fuck CEOs can't even pay hookers off, set strong passwords, not be absolute idiots in other fields of life etc., there is no way I believe that it has 0 USA links.

Maybe you're right with the top 1% of the top 1%, but not everyone is that good.
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For every Snowden in relative safety, I wonder how many people have been killed or otherwise destroyed because they were about to show the world some fucked up shit.
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>>69869894
>What you are saying is that, since the 1970s, every single US company that contracted with the firm, was better at hiding their tracks than Putin and others.
No, just that they threw everyone else in the shit before themselves as a way of covering their tracks.
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>>69869889
Not with huge stories like this. If they drop the juiciest bits first, the interest and hence income will drop as the story develops.

They're saving the best for last.
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>>69869738
>repeating numbers.
9-11
charlie Hebdo - 7 January 2015
Paris attacks - 13 November 2015,
Belgium attacks - 22 March 2016
how's it repeating?
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>>69869832
>wouldnt be surprised if US installed ukranian president gets zero mentions here
He's getting plenty here, two days before our referendum on the EU-Ukraine deal.
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>>69869659
for what? to let those implicated arrange a car accident or server farm fire for them? allow sliding to commence?
>let's give these powerful people a heads up about us having potentially career-ending and incarceration-causing information about them
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>>69869761
>can't use nick "nigger" because it's "erroneous"
>can't use nick "what" because it's "racist"
>got kicked immediately out for expressing concerns of leak's validity because of the lack of immediate download link

wow
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>>69869937
Plenty. Remember that British reporter who was found dead in a park, who was investigating the false Iraqi WMD claims or something?
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>>69869779
Whatever, man.
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>>69870010
To maximize attention and thus profit.
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>>69870010
There's tens of media outlets all over the world coordinating the release. They know what they're fucking with, and plan accordingly.
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Still no news about the leak.
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>>69863304
>>69862829
Panama is a shitty jurisdiction to expose, bc U.S.-based investors do not, as far as I know, use that jurisdiction for their """""""investing.""""""" The exposing of that pattern, like you note, does make public the kinds of shit that happens, though.

It's ironic anons blame Soros for containing this, when, he has his own pyramid of offshore trading entities, with spin-outs and everything. Maybe the biggest deflection job being done here is from his own offshore """""""arranging""""""" ?
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>>69869760
top kek.
Looks like the guys up stair's are clearing house of all those who might be a danger.
Also I'd ignore Russia and look at the actual Russians who are getting fucked by this and who their competitors are.
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>>69869779
i could give a fuck about putin, but if you actually visit the few sites covering this (not murican news) all of them mention putin within the first paragraph
>>69870071
as this anon has proven, they even made fucking graphs for putin, i think that page had like 3 graphs
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>>69870116
It's still night in burgerstan.
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>>69870116
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>>69862822
Big companies now refuse to use the cloud in fear of data loss.
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>>69869738
>the patterns

oh god. it has all become clear to me now. in this moment. so vivid.
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>>69870116
They weren't let in on it.
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>>69862610
They're all dirty turds
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>>69870071
>he was a childhood friend.. in childhood
>and this guy works for him.. the president of the country for whom everyone in the government works for
like I said, grasping at straws
check who is doing the spin, there will be something that looks like a pale Australian with buckteeth there, guaranteed
>protip: it's called a Brit
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>>69870071
>going through all this trouble to focus this on Putin
He wasn't even mentioned by name.

I wonder if anyone on their side was named, like Merkel, Soros or Zuckershit.
There's no such thing as journalism in the West anymore.
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>>69870116
there is nothing about it on tv either. us burgers only get news before the commute to work, so they'll shitpost on their news sites around 6am, definitely by 7am it'll be all over news outlets.
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>>69862822
It had drastic changes in the tech sector.

Long story short nobody stores data on American servers unless they're already working for the feds
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>>69870020
you could try NOT trolling.

There is no immediate link because it hasn't been fully analyzed yet. They are still combing through data. Wikileaks is voting on weather or not to release it all in one go, or spread it out over a few days to keep interest, so it doesn't just poof out over night.
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>>69870220
so where does a conductor gets more than half a billion dollar from ?
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>>69870268
>Wikileaks is voting on weather or not to release it all in one go, or spread it out over a few days to keep interest, so it doesn't just poof out over night
Source on this? Twitter joke polls aren't a valid source.
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>>69864977
>people should be putting pressure on their national tax agencies to investigate, and wait for a result before slandering people
Are you kidding me ?
Who went to jail for the global economic collapse ?
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I'm not quite sure I understand why so much of /pol/ thinks the leaks are fake and why it has anything to do with that kike Soros.

I'm not a shill, I genuinely want to understand it. Can someone explain it so a retard like me can understand it?
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>>69870350
>Who went to jail for the global economic collapse ?
Only 1 swiss dude, because he was the only one actually in violation of laws.

That's the worst part about the subprime crisis; none of it was illegal.
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>>69870160
there is a loosely tied network of journalists surrounding the leak, the Brits are the only ones working hard the Putin angle, which is really all you need to know, even without the others telling you there is nothing on Putin -- if there was, ALL of them would be working it

it's up on the sites because Brits pushed it and he is the biggest political name floating around so far, nobody cares for the Icecuck. but there is nothing solid on Putin and the moment something actually real is dug up about someone important, the British side will have to let it go
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>>69869974
gotcha. i was talking about US media mentions.
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>>69870419
give it a couple hours. it's only 1:03am on the west coast. Probably around 6 or 7 am it'll start getting US media attention.
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Let's dispel the myth that the media doesn't know what it's doing. The media knows exactly what it's doing. Getting you in another Soros manufactured movement. It's a systematic effort to clean house of people who may be of a threat to him.
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>>69870329
except they are the ones running their poll on twitter, and it isn't a joke poll.
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>>69864696
first thing i noticed, only the current enemies of the US/Israel are mentioned
shit's fishy af
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>>69870494
>Wikileaks butthurt that they weren't included in the leaks.
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>>69870240
next news cycle starts in an hour at 5am est.
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What is this Soros meme anyways? I'm out of the loop, haven't been browsing /pol/ much lately.
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>>69870543
They still have the files, apparently.
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https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-media-gatekeepers-protect-western-1-from-panama-leak/

Some Highlights

>Unfortunately the leaker has made the dreadful mistake of turning to the western corporate media to publicise the results. In consequence the first major story, published today by the Guardian, is all about Vladimir Putin and a cellist on the fiddle.

>What do you expect? The leak is being managed by the grandly but laughably named “International Consortium of Investigative Journalists”, which is funded and organised entirely by the USA’s Center for Public Integrity. Their funders include

>Ford Foundation
>Carnegie Endowment
>Rockefeller Family Fund
>W K Kellogg Foundation
>Open Society Foundation (Soros)

>Expect hits at Russia, Iran and Syria and some tiny “balancing” western country like Iceland. A superannuated UK peer or two will be sacrificed – someone already with dementia.
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They better release all of the papers unredacted, it pisses me off how they give the media time to cherry pick and manipulate the news, they're hyping up Assad and Putin being involved while ignoring the US involvement, they stated that there are thousands of companies and individuals involved from the US but no details are being released about their identities or the scope of their involvement.
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>>69870534
thats because you did not read or researched a little bit ?
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>>69870552
It's not a meme, there has been an effort to make Soros a household name because he funds any effort to cause civil unrest in any part of the world. He is behind black lives matter and the people you see protesting Trump in Arizona blocking the road, were found out to have been paid $16 an hour (lol) to protest. Plus, the woman who was in charge of it was directly related to moveon.org which is george soros funded.

In other words, if there is shit hitting the fan somewhere in the world that seems to come out of nowhere (oh it was grassroots!) theres a 99.9% chance he is behind it.
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>>69869044
>Then explain why Soros would undermine the treaty

jews gonna jew
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>>69870552
He's the latest boogyman of the Alt-Right.
In reality he's a large individual donor to the Democratic party and donated a lot towards eastern european causes during breakup of the USSR (ie, he's pro capitalism)
In Alt-Right fantasy land he's the grand mastermind behind all the convenient 'facts' the the left use to attack their bullshit. The lack of evidence on their own side is part of the conspiracy.
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>>69862610
small amount of more people who are leaning towards communism

mostly from younger generation who have no clue and this is the thing they see

jews trying to form more communistic people from young people
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One thing I'm unsure about is where the media is getting the info from, are they getting it from the leak or through wikileaks?
Is it possible that it was leaked to the mainstream media and wikileaks, so most of what we're seeing is the media cherry picking what they want to bring up? I'm just waiting for wikileaks to make their release.
I don't want to lose trust in wikileaks.
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>>69862610
Yes, because this is a hit piece by powers-that-be against their political enemies.

It's going to change a lot, and not for the better. It's a controlled "leak" - that's why everyone's fucking reporting it.

Had it been something worthwhile that actually attacked the legs the globalists stood on, it would've been buried and forgotten or treated like snowden's releases where they lie, lie, lie about it everything.

By the way, here's an actual recent leak that's been overshadowed by the panama "leak".

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-oil-company-unaoil-iraq-idUKKCN0WZ0EX
http://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2016/the-bribe-factory/day-1/the-company-that-bribed-the-world.html
https://www.rt.com/news/337961-unaoil-corruption-scandal-investigation/
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-oil-companies-corruption-idUKKCN0WY3KM

Sure is convenient that there's this panama release to cover up the actual unaoil leak.

If you want to talk about a leak, talk about unaoil, don't play into the hands of the globalists and jewish lugenpresse.
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>>69870701
Thank you for the brief explanation.

What are the most popular theories on why he's doing this?
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>>69870574
Source?

>>69870525
It's an obvious rhetorical question. DO THEY HAVE THE FILES?
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>>69870751
Don't use the word 'conspiracy' when there are facts. Stop using the discrediting tactic. It's real.

It has nothing to do with the alt-right, it has nothing to do with left vs right. He funds ANY movement that causes civil unrest. Now please, go shill your misinformation and discrediting buzzwords elsewhere. Fucking kike.
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>>69870552
>soros
>billionaire investor
>globalist type
>likes funding radical lefties like BLM and trump protesters

he's been doing this type of shit for a long time but i feel like the final straw for /pol/ was when they found out he was backing trump protesters. now it cant be a real happening without finding the soros connection.
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>>69870751
Goddamn, you're fucking stupid, even for an Austard.
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>>69870393
For starters, some news outlets who are publishing information from this leak are funded by soros and rothschild. There is also the IMF leak that happened just before this leak, which suggest this massive media hype to be covering up the IMF leak.
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>>69870781
On an Unaoil-related note, it's funny how a huge leak regarding corruption in the global oil sector goes largely unmentioned in Norwegian papers. Especially after all the corruption scandals in public companies that have surfaced during the last couple of years.
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>>69870936
>IMF leak
Please, please elaborate.
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>>69870783
Not much of a theory, he has said and this has been reported on most non-msm websites that his goal is "no borders" heres one link. Just type in "the goal is open boarders soros" in google and you'll find it.

http://www.naturalnews.com/051869_George_Soros_national_borders_migrant_invasion.html
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>>69870781
Finally a leaf that makes fucking sense
Godspeed to you anon

DONT BELIEVE THE LEAKS
SOURCES OF THE LEAK COME FROM SOROS AND ROCKEFELLER
THIS IS A LEFTIST PROPAGANDA MADE TO UNDERMINE THE 1%
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>>69870781
>Corrupt Iraqi official
>Big leak

Yeah, nah.
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>>69862610

No.
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>>69870783
That's what we're trying to figure out. The guy is close to death though. He might be sacrificing himself to shield the rest of his group.

But friendly reminder, Soros destroyed the pound single handed in 1992. Whicj is pretty huge.
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>>69871013
Reminds me of this
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>>69870751
Soros schill detected.
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>>69870943
There's a huge amount of news companies that aren't reporting on this at all.

For example in NZ, NZ Herald has multiple articles on their frontpage about the papers, but stuff.co.nz and NewsHub have nothing. You can't be THAT incompetent as a news provider, especially when one of them is the second largest news station in this country.
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>>69870998
There's a recorded conversation about bankrupting greece. It iirc on zerohedge. I am on the phone so cant search for it now, however if you go there it should be an easy find.
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>>69868790
>smelly cowshit
Look whos talking apoo
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>>69871129
>But friendly reminder, Soros destroyed the pound single handed in 1992. Whicj is pretty huge.
>EU formed 1993

no connection at all
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>>69871224
another pedro detected.
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>>69864171
welcome to /pol/, where's it's more interesting to dox two worthless fags at a trump rally than discussing the global jewery that's been fucking us all in the ass for centuries
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>>69869044
>Then explain why Soros would undermine the treaty between the EU and Ukraine

lost cause is lost. CIA failed with Ukraine.
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>>69871218
You must be blind or something. Both of these were on the top of the front page.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/78511167/Panama-papers-NZ-trusts-at-the-centre-of-Malta-money-scandal-Mossack-Fonseca-papers-show
http://www.newshub.co.nz/world/nz-linked-to-global-tax-evasion-scheme-2016040409
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>>69871283
Indeed. No connection at all.

He profited around and about 1Billion pounds over the backs of the Englisj.
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>>69864171
Pol is not real discussion. Only memetalk.
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>>69871049
prove it please
link to demonstration
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>>69866395
Probably because not that many Americans, if any, and mentioned... yet
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>>69864662
U dumb cunt. As soon as the gov goes on a witch hunt, they will bribe em out. Even they catch those tax evasives, they gon sentence only 2 yrs in jail. Reddit is overreacting
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