The leader of Russia's 200 million Orthodox Christians says the modern world is steeped in heresy as never before.
The "heresy" he speaks against is "worshipping the human" and enshrining laws that give the "right" to sin, which the Patriarch calls "the new idolatry that removes God from human life."
And he warns that the consequences of this modern heresy "can become apocalyptic."
Speaking from the pulpit of Christ the Savior Cathedral in Moscow, Patriarch Kirill said, "Today we are [seeing] a global heresy of bowing down to man, the new idolatry that removes God from human life... Nothing like that had even happened on a global scale before."
Preaching on Orthodoxy Sunday, the first Sunday of Orthodox Lent, the Primate lamented that society's criterion of truth has become individual "rights," and such a mindset "has begun a revolutionary exile of God from man's life and that of society.”
His All-Holiness said the heresy began in Western Europe and America, but is now worldwide, infesting even his own country. "The idea of a life without God is developing on a large scale around the world," he warned.
He criticized the elevation of human rights to the level above morality, decency, the Bible, and even God Himself. "We are seeing how concerted efforts are being made in many prosperous countries to establish by law the person's right to any choice, including the most sinful ones, those that contradict God's Word, the concept of holiness, the concept of God," he said.
The Patriarch then dedicated his Church to fighting this modern heresy. "It is specifically at overcoming this present day's heresy, the consequences of which can become apocalyptic, that the church must aim the force of its strength, its word, its thought."
"We must defend Orthodoxy," Kirill said.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/orthodox-patriarch-church-must-combat-unprecedented-global-heresy-that-clai
>>69857290
>Russia going to get even less liberal
>>69857290
Hi Britain.
>>69857290
He consider abortion heresy too?
Because it's pretty rampant on orthodox world
>>69857402
Hi Peru.
>>69857410
Yes, they condemn abortion.
>>69857290
>And he warns that the consequences of this modern heresy "can become apocalyptic."
fyi "apocalypse" actually means "revelation"
>>69857402
DUDE
FUCKING
LEAF
LESS
>>69857402
Put your leaf back on
>>69857402
>>69857290
>And he warns that the consequences of this modern heresy "can become apocalyptic."
THE END IS NIGH
>>69857438
Its 0540am, haven't you got better things to do than shitpost pol
>>69857438
I found really interesting how a nation with almost a century of Communism, were able to retain the Orthodox Church network and heritage as well as the Imperial Fine Arts School.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpxrY0O40Ic
There is a vox populi surrounding the KGB, they were the ones who restricted Christianity and Czar era culture, but they were also the ones who prevented the total eradication of them the Party was so fervent to do.
China on other hand didn't had an institution who bypassed their cultural revolution.
>>69857915
No, it is 5:40am, don't you have better things to do than ask me about shitposting?
Can this man declare a crusade so we can save Europe?
>>69858018
Do the Orthodox do crusades? I thought they were a Catholic thing.
>>69858018
No, the orthodoxs churches do not function like the catholic church
>>69858055
I don't care at this point
>>69857290
Is it time to retake constantinople?
Patriarch Kirill is a clown, and the whole orthodox church are corrupt crooks and thieves.
>>69858055
Yes they did. In fact it was your nation among the French who prevented the Russians to retake Constantinople and ethnic clean what we know as Turkey.
To get an idea, Ukraine was under a caliphate by the Ottomans generals. Look how they look today, they wiped all Tartars.
The British and French didn't like losing all the gold in trade the Ottoman gave them, so they jumped in.
>>69857290
sounds like another freedom-hating commie desu senpai
>>69858348
>1800s Britain
For all practical purposes that Britain is dead. I just live on the same island.
Sounds collectivist.
Communist scum.
>>69857290
No Offense but these fuckers want to establish a fucking Theocracy.
The last thing we need is to go to the Middle Ages were fucking non-believers were beheaded and / or crucified.
>>69858342
I agree, most of them are ex-KGB. But Putin explains it very well, Orthodox Church benefits more your society than not having them, that is why he restore it quickly.
Its called real politik and pragmatism, they focus on results: morality, nationalism, culture. Rather than arguing if God exist or not.
>>69858560
They are nothing but leeches of the state. If these fuckers try to establish a theocracy they are going to have a very difficult time dealing with the 20 some percent of muslims that live in Russia.
>>69858546
Russia got sent back a few hundred years by the Mongols they need to catch up possibly by going through some shit to get up to speed
>>69858560
so not bothering to get into arguments with internet atheists
>>69857290
If there is hope, it lies in the Slavs.
I wonder what exactly he means by that.
Oh well. Not like Christianity doesn't have over 2000 years of funny business that nobody really knows about for sure, and that built upon all kinds of other weird stuff.
>>69857290
This is the West in 20 years. This is the future
>>69858672
>theocracy
Russia government pays them to spread morality, nationalism and culture. The Patriarch knows he is basically runs another institution working for the Kremlin, he will never question their authority nor policies.
>>69857290
corrupt and pedo
[spoiler] as any religious head[/spoiler]
/thread
>>69858672
No, the Russians know how to deal with their Muslims
>>69858755
>>69857290
He's pretty much just talking about wide-spread secular gnosticism, not in a literal sense, but gnosticism is in its essence self-worship and hatred of God.
Quite natural as the roots of humanism are found in protestantism (i.e. personal christianity) and jewish esotericism via. freemasonry.
>>69859098
That's it
>>69858342
Egor Prosvirnin is a cuck.
>>69859098
Gnostics are the ones who see Satan as a good guy who set humans free, right?
>>69858857
there is no nationalism. Google kvachkov. putin jailed him for anti muslim and pro slavic views.
every year there are more and more muslims from kavkaz region and middle Asia
>>69859098
That's my preferred interpretation. But there are some iffy bits if you look at it too closely.
>>69858546
Why not?
>>69857290
>thinking anyone in 2015+1 cares what an old faggot in faggot hat worshipping a faggot religion with faggot followers says about anything
wowitsfuckingnothing.jpg
>>69859209
Think of Gnosticism as existing on a scale, with materialism at the other end.
Gnosticism denies the body and says everything is spirit, while materialism denies the spirit and says that everything is material. In practice, the "denial of the body" results in the idea that you can do whatever you want with your body and it's all ok, bigot.
As an interesting aside, consider this: Jesus told his followers "This is my body, that will be given up for you." A modern "Gnostic" would take this and turn it into the profane "My body, my choice"
Post your face when it'll turn out that the Russian Pope is on the Panama Papers
>>69859000
bullshit, remember that muslim nanny
>>69858932
>/thread your own post
Good job Yuri
I am Catholic, but did you saw the Pope the other day washing refugees (welfare invaders) feet?
It was painful to watch. I get that Jesus showed humble by saying he is came to serve and not to be served. But come on, that was pathetic, denigrating, humiliating and portray the Church as if we don't have dignity. Even Jesus raged when he saw Merchants doing usury in the temple.
I really think the Vatican was hijacked by an organization who will brake Western values by making believers quit.
The amount of pedophiles and homosexual is crazy, even in local news every year children sue priests. The Vatican needs to step up restore marriage for priests like the Orthodox Church as well as community activities focused preserve our values like schools and universities, rather than pointless charities that feed the Roman banks.
>>69859699
I mean when they go bomb Chechnya and rape the women so the Muslims don't try to pull anything for a few years
>>69857290
>being a schismatic
>2016 In the year of our Lord and his Catholic Church founded on Blessed Peter
>>69857290
>The leader of Russia's 200 million Orthodox Christians
>the population of russia is only 143 million
>wtf
>>69859809
Yeah. There's a difference between the washing of the feet and making a PR stunt out of it. The Pope is surely smart enough to know what he was doing with that one.
>>69857290
>worshipping the human
Isn't this the guy with the $200,000 watch?
>>69857290
Never trust a man with in a funny hat
>>69859908
There are Russian Orthodox in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, etc.
>>69859413
This can only end in war. When Christians really get fed up with shit enough that patience they have starts to disappear more and more. You can call them faggots and introduce secularism but if you violate their doctrines enough they will burn you alive.
>>69859809
>The Vatican needs to step up restore marriage for priests
"im a catholic"
>>69859932
>The Pope is surely smart enough to know what he was doing with that one.
He probably isn't and he's being used.
And I bet whoever is using him also forced Ratzinger out.
>patriach
>""""Christian"""
[Mat 23:9-12 KJV] 9 And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, [even] Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
>>69859413
>Not wanting the two largest religions in the world to declare war on each other
You faggot
>>69857290
HOLY WAR!
>>69857290
Burn the heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the unclean
>>69859908
There are Russian Orthodox Christians in Belarus, Ukraine, the Caucasian states, Alaska, and Kazakhstan. Plus their are other Orthodox Christians in most of the Balkan states.
>>69860066
That's been my suspicion as well.
But who knows. It's just reality politics playing out before our eyes.
>>69857290
orthodox church is cancer
same as our patriarch, whines about not letting refugees and islam, etc, but in the same time drives brand new s-class and wears rolex for 100k euro
fuck those corrupt shits
>>69858546
>>69857290
HAIL TO THE MOTHER LAND
>>69859868
MAD BANTZ
BEARDED PRIESTS BTFO
SLAVS BTFO
>>69860192
In modern English please. I can't make much of it.
>>69859215
Ok. Putin wants the nationalism the Chechen leader portrays.
"First I am Russian, then I am Muslim, then I am Chechen."
Kvachkov was a treat to the multicultural Russia you have today. It boost racial tensions and religion tensions. But I get your point, you refer to a more Slav nationalism. Putin wants a nationalism who only focus in the actual flag, laws and language.
It was discussed in Duma the issue of immigrants from those areas. Problem is that the Asians and Muslims mutts from those region do have Russia Federation papers. Blame the USSR who tried social experiments and issued them passports.
Its a problem it will keep growing, but thankfully for you it will end as that loophole will close as generations get older and only the ones born in modern Russian can move to Moscow.
Commies ruined your homogeneous population the Czar worked. You went from burning Jews alive to follow their orders.
>>69857290
Last I checked, Russia had somewhere around 150 million people, give or take. How is the leader of Russia's Orthodox Christians the head of 200 million people?
>>69859908
Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russian diaspora...
>>69858546
>Is this Patriarch Kirill? Yes, where can I submit an application as executioner?
Theocracies are best gubments
>>69857290
He isn't wrong if we start worshipping man, we become even more enslaved.
The only true path is ancestor worship, let your dead ancestors lives drive you forward to greatness.
>>69860494
The Russian Orthodox Church is not only in Russia.
>>69860059
There is no single line in the Bible that restrains priests from marriage. So yeah, if the Vatican really wanted they could do it without hurting the Catholic original dogma.
>>69860494
Our church spreads beyond our borders, there are branches in other countries
>>69859098
Hm. Interesting
Why did Gnostic monks get BTFO at one point in time? Read that in passing once
>>69860004
>burn me alive
Young men and money fight wars fag. What the fuck is a puppet of a bunch of frumpy Russian wives going to do about shit?
The Orthodox Church is and will always be used to control domestic policy. It has no power or muscle.
Also fite me fgt
>>69858932
>le pedo xD
>le fedora shit
>threading own post
Shitty b8
>>69860492
>homogeneous population the Czar worked
The Russian Empire at its height contained about 100 ethnic groups. You can't reign over 1/6th of the earth's surface and have a pure ethno-nationalist state at the same time, which is why the "Russia For Russians!" nationalist types are stupid and using a model imported from the west.
>2016 and not a buddhist
It's 2016 people.
>>69859413
>thinking anyone in 2015+1 cares what an old faggot in faggot hat worshipping a faggot religion with faggot followers says about anything
*teleports behind you*
>>69860811
fuck off abbo
Any link to the full sermon?
Pic related, it's him chilling with penguins in Antartica this February.
>>69857290
>rights
>bad
Y'all are cucks to men in dresses.
>>69860745
Who do you think was the first European house to play with Eugenics? There were some Cossack divisions breed to be tall and fearless all paid by the Russian house.
100 ethnic groups that were close. At one extreme you had Swedes, on the other one were Teutons. In the east any Tartar or Asian was lynched. It was homogeneous within a white/European parameter.
>>69860588
>>69860619
The way the OP stated it is that it is
>Russia's 200 million Orthodox Christians
There is little ambiguity in that statement. According to that statement, all 200 million Orthodox Christians belong to Russia.
>>69860962
Not an abbo.
abbo's can't internet.
>>69860455
american """""""""""education""""""""""
>>69860735
Well than very well let's rely on Muslims to do it. After they fucking take over Europe. You don't realize that religions win in the end because they produce young men and unite people more than anything. They don't even need much wealth if their religiously motivated enough because their paradise is it's own reward.
>>69857290
http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/20/putin-solzhenitsyn-kirill-russia-opinions-contributors_orthodox_church.html
"After the fall of the Soviet Union, the church received official privileges including the right to import duty-free alcohol and tobacco. In 1995, the Nikolo-Ugreshky Monastery, which is directly subordinated to the patriarchate, earned $350 million from the sale of alcohol. The patriarchate’s department of foreign church relations, which Kirill ran, earned $75 million from the sale of tobacco. But the patriarchate reported an annual budget in 1995-1996 of only $2 million. Kirill’s personal wealth was estimated by the Moscow News in 2006 to be $4 billion."
Very holy.
>>69861198
But what if they could?
>>69857290
I'm all for nationalism but this is starting to sound Muslim tier.
>>69860492
you know too much about duma and other shit for Canadian. I guess you are bot from savushkina or you just work for them.because no-one in good mind would support putin and his puppets like kadyrov and religious fags.
He started the war in Syria to divert attention from fail in donbass.
he is worse than Hitler.because Hitler didn't make his folks poor and he didn't killed brothers- Austrians.
>>69861346
>Russians and Christfags will defend this
>>69861497
>and he didn't killed brothers- Austrians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engelbert_Dollfuss
He had the leader of Austria gunned down.
>>69861058
Link to the full sermon?
>>69860455
[Mat 23:9-12 NASB] 9 "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10 "Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ. 11 "But the greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 "Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.
"Don't let anyone be your teacher but Christ. Anyone who claims authority of the word is a cuck."
>>69861536
>church sells alcohol to RUSSIANS
>like giving suicide vests to Palestinians
>claims the Church is being pragmatic and concerned with upholding morality and the integrity of the nation
>Peruvians will defend this
>>69857723
This will never not make me laugh
>>69859674
>A modern "Gnostic" would take this and turn it into the profane "My body, my choice
Based Peter Kreeft.
>>69860059
Eastern Catholic Rites allow married priests.
Western Catholic Rites don't.
It's simply tradition and not many priests want it to change, mostly because they don't care.
>>69861932
>America is a globalist puppet
>Likes giving weapons to violent Islamic groups
>Declares war on other violent Islamic groups
>Supports Israel and Saudi Arabia known for human rights violations
>American government claims America is the champion of human rights and free speech
You know I don't think there is more than a few large organizations that are actually not hypocrites.
>>69860735
This faggot has no idea how powerful religious fervor is and how it shaped almost all of human history up to now.
>>69862487
It became the easy way to hide the family homo, especially as the Church gained a lot of political power over the shattered aristocracy that the Roman Empire left behind.
Both things basically completely against what the Church teaches. But yet if it were not for the Church we wouldn't have Western Civilization as we know it.
Life is a wild ride.
>>69862487
Better a married Priest, and run the risk of dynasticism, than a Homosexual priest and ensure the corruption of the Churchs morality.
what happens when governments in europe fall apart due to muslims, will russia and the u.s. have power struggles again?
>>69861497
>He started the war in Syria
Please no. Come on. It was the US warmongers who started it.
Geopolitics is too idealistic, until the plan you have for the next 50 years came to a reality.
>pic related was a top secret 40 years ago both Russians and Americans knew this scenario was coming, to the good or bad both sides wanted their pipeline.
This is important Russia accomplish the energetic dependence of Europe, the USA knew that at some point NATO influence will be questioned and possible ruled out. They both craved for EU energy monopoly as you can gain from it a lot of liquidity, markets and good.
Now you can read Hillary and Cable leaks, Syria was target ala Libya. But why? Because pic related again. So blaming Obama or Putin for it is stupid, that chess game was already on decades ago.
>I guess you are bot from savushkina or you just work for them.because no-one in good mind would support putin and his puppets like kadyrov and religious fags.
Not really I am Peruvian. But I like to detach geopolitics from narratives. I like Putin not because he runs Russia like an criminal organization, but because he hold it when local lords where about to Balkanize the entire region and make themselves pseudo presidents. Give him a little credit for fixing the USSR fall anarchy.
Hitler did make Germans die, if you don't consider war causalities its fine tho.
>>69862674
Having unmarried priests prevents a family taking over a see as a dynasty. Not a huge concern now, but nack in the feudal era it was how all positions were decided and accumulated within dynasties.
A lot of Middle-Eastern churches have positions controlled by a single family, and child bishops & priests when the father dies too young.
Unmarried priests solves that problem. It opens up the homosexual problem, which is worse today.
>>69860606
Yes, the Vatican could.
But there isn't a big call for it. And don't say "oh but the laity wants it!" because that doesn't matter. The priests themselves need to want it, and they can see that their Easter Catholic brothers get married, but as most celibate Catholic priests are of the Western (or Latin) Rite, which prohibits priests from marrying, they simply submit to the requirement of celibacy.
Basically, unless you're a Catholic Priest not ordained in the Latin Rite, you really don't care enough to champion for a lifting on the celibacy thing.
>>69862962
I never thought about it like that, but you're right.
>>69863088
And most of the seminaries have been taken over by homosexuals.
http://www.amazon.com/Sodomy-Homosexuality-Roman-Catholic-Church/dp/0977860132
>An Open Letter to "Pope" Francis on Homosexuality & Pederasty
>Randy Engel Rakes Francis Over the Coals
http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/randy-engel-letter-francis.htm
>>69861932
Hahaha. How did you expect the Kremlin paid the ex-KGB working to rebuild the Orthodox Church?
Times were difficult during those days, so rule out cash, gold or properties. Those three can be your death sentence in the future also.
Letting them sell goods that were banned in the past was a profitable business (like cocaine today), it was the 90's.
Now they have evolve and they paid them in salaries and gifts, expecting them to the job. They were assigned for.
>>69863172
It was a decent solution to that problem, for that era.
Homosexuality amongst preists is the far bigger problem now.
Let them get married, and have a decent family man as the local preist, not some effete homosexual weirdo.
>>69863329
Wouldn't the better answer be "be more strict on who gets into seminary" rather than "let priests marry?" Because even if they could marry, that doesn't mean all of them will or that gays won't try and become priests anymore.
>>69858672
>they are going to have a very difficult time dealing with the 20 some percent of muslims that live in Russia.
russians arent cucks for muslims like the west.
should this situation arise, it will be the muslims who have a very difficult time. not the russians.
also it's more like 7%, not 20%
>>69859868
>schismatic
Coming from the ones who inserted prases into the creed
>>69857290
>2016
>Being an Orthodox
>Not a Transhumanist
What a poor life choice.
pic related, believing in whatever form of Christianity is like this.
>>69861058
There is a Russian movie called "The Island". Watch it twice and it will change your life. You might not figure it out the first time. Very deep and you have to watch it without interruptions
>>69863518
To be entirely frank with you, my position is that there are things so vile going on these days that the only correct thing to do for the next Pope who wants to be anything other than an accessory to the crime is to issue a public statement admitting that there is a problem, and that every time somebody gets caught that said person will be immediately handed over to the local authorities for investigation.
And the convicted ones will have their pictures posted in every chruch. Paid for by the vatican.
Otherwise, what are people supposed to believe in?
>>69859868
man, being proud of abandoning your christian brothers to the ottomans while fighting among each other for land&titles is something to be proud of ?
>>69857290
>leader of Russia's 200 million Orthodox Christians
he is not pope tier nor did even the ecumenical patriarch had that kind of power.......
>>69863329
>>69863088
Back to my point again. Its a vicious cycle, as we can conclude. But who is available to end that vicious cycle?
Church imposed almost a military training to priests, authority over logic. Did you ever saw soldiers revolting against their institution? They can be demoralized but will never revolt, they will leave the said institution first. So rule out the soldiers.
So the responsibility of relies in the Head, in the upper levels. The Vatican itself is the only one capable of fixing it. They have to be honest.
1) Its life style in the modern era that attracts homosexuals and pedophiles.
2) Scandals indicate a very high % of said sick people in the workforce, at every single level.
Celibate is an issue, in the past, thanks to all the Italian chronicles, priests did have a sexual partner. During renaissance most priests had a "secret" family, and who wouldn't crave for their wealth to be honest. Just like women smiling to rich guys, women smiled to them especially if they were ranked.
So comparison is way enlightening. Marriage should come back.
>>69857290
orthodox are good people
>>69863779
Didn't one of the last two Popes already say that?
Also, how many Catholic churches have you been to? There isn't room enough for that picture thing, assuming you are going by defrocked pedo priests as a whole and not by diocese.
If there were only 50 defrocked pedo priests, that's far more pictures to frame and display than most churches have room for.
>>69864252
If he said it, he didn't say it loud enough to break news. The MSM would be up and down that shit like rats to an asshole convention.
>>69857290
This retard is the most corrupt ass-licking heretic among world religious leaders, what the fuck?I am so happy to be agnostic these days.
>>69864183
But these issues can also be solved by higher scrutiny in who gets into seminary.
There is no guarentee that letting priests marry cuts down on gays and pedos trying to get in. Otherwise there would be no cases of gay or pedo priests among Eastern Orthodoxy. And that is certainly not the case.
>>69857290
RUSSIA NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>69863690
>Transhumanist
Kike tool detected, go upload your conciousness into google drive already, you fucking tool!
>>69864311
The media doesn't care if they can't twist it. Francis has compared modern gender theory to nuclear weapons, no one talked about it because they couldn't spin it. He said earlier that if Joe likes men but actively and completely rejects those desires and lives according to Church teachings on morality, sexual or otherwise, it doesn't matter that he's gay as far as the church is concerned, and the media saw an opportunity to spin it into some progressive schlock.
>>69858932
>[spoiler] as any religious head[/spoiler]
>>69863542
Allowing married preists would seem the only way to break the stranghold of homosexuals on seminaries.
It would also allow competition against homosexual priests. Normal family man priest attracts more parishioners than weirdo effeminate gay priest etc.
>>69857290
LOL fucking corrupdet puttin puppet. Declare war to priests pedophiles first xD
>>69864516
>There is no guarentee that letting priests marry cuts down on gays and pedos trying to get in.
I disagree. For example you increase the spectrum of people wanting to join the Church as priests.
In others words. I have a welders company where human resource find out that the % of gay and pedophiles are the same as the % of gays and pedophile in the global population statistics. Now if the welders company did impose a rule to human resources to only hire "hetero males" that aren't marry and will not marry in the next 40 years or face charges and sues... the % of gays and pedophiles getting in the company will be higher than the % of them in the Global population.
There was a study that many of them weren't pedophiles at first, they were indeed homosexuals. But as obedience is a rule, older and ranked priests started targeting younger gay males in seminars, to then targeting teen males when ever they can. Almost like a jail environment where sex and rape its a way of defining status.
Degenerate of course, but simple to solve if marriage is restored.
>higher scrutiny
That's a good point but like I said before the scandals point out a high % in all levels. Do you expect the Church to fire more than its 50% of "priests"?
>>69863690
The poor bastard sitting in that chair...
>>69864183
I agree. Too many weirdo gay/pederest priests that have abandon God and alienate normal people from tha Church.
Put some family men in. I relate to the married Anglican preist as a person more than a sterile gay weirdo (haven't meet an Eastern Catholic married priest yet).
Christ is the head of ths Church, hopefully he or one of the Saints appears to somebody and makes a direct revelation to reform the Church and take it back from them. Can't see it happening without divine intercession.
>>69864252
Mowt of the bad eggs are homosexuals who dabbled in pedestry, rather than strict pedophiles (although some of those existed too). The problem is gays.
>>69865098
Are you even Catholic? Our churches aren't free enterprise. A diocesan cluster shuffles its pool of priests frequently to fit various scheduled mass times or other clerical purposes in the diocese. If you don't like the priest at mass that day and hour, tough shit. He's not there to entertain you, he's there to perform a sacred ritual.
>>69857290
>He criticized the elevation of human rights to the level above morality, decency, the Bible, and even God Himself.
If follow the Orthodox and doubly so for the Catholic interpretation of "God's law" we end up concluding that the priests should be deciding just about everything. It's basically Sharia law. If a group wants to act big and think they are the "real authority" than they are basically declaring war. Do we have to start throwing them back to the lions?
On the other hand of we go with other interpretations of "God's law" we see that all these 'rights' are granted by God so it's all ok.
There is something quite Jewish about the line out of thought
1. God's law is supreme
2. My church knows the correct interpetation of Gods law.
It's essentially saying GIMME GIMME GIMME and shut up!!
>the consequences of which can become apocalyptic,
This is what Christians say when they feel they are on the verge of defeat.
>>69863736
Thanks m8 will do, is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms4TXwIDutM
>>69858546
A theocracy sounds pretty good right about now
>>69857290
Christianity is Jewish mind control. Pagans will rule in the end. There will never be an apocalypse.
>>69865804
Nah. That's the same appeal to authority that begets Communism and right wing death squads.
While we do obviously need to gas the kikes, and not interbreed with the spades, you can't go full retard about it.
>>69865901
I think you need to come with me to your free helicopter ride.
>>69860811
It's the current year.
>>69858546
You're right. Transgender children and refugees and feminism is a much better option. Except that looks like it eventually ends up in a caliphate so...
>>69863779
The problem is that homosexuality itself isn't a crime in most areas anymore, nor is pedestry (equal age of consent laws). So it's an internal question if Church discipline, can't palm it off the secular authorities.
In that "Rite of Sodomy" book they talk about the more severe punishments that once existed for homosexuality in church discipline. Including the need for a public confession (so everyone would be aware of the sin and the person disgraced and forever rendered unfit for church/public positions) and severe penances etc.
>>69865861
>There will never be an apocalypse.
Don't pagans believe in their own apocalypses? Like Ragnarok?
>>69865989
A coup is a last resort, typically enjoyed by shit countries who get nothing much out of it in the long run.
As for me, I would quite like to Make America Great Again.
>>69865861
>>69865861
Many have thought that. Be serious how can you replace dogmas or "mind control organizations" with something as efficient and simple to give society a system of values and morals?
Atheism is very irresponsible, we haven't developed something to stay civilized to others despite laws. And laws are repressive to actions, religion in other hand makes individuals do good by their own will.
>If you kill God, who is going to do his job?
Very deep question.
Patriarch is Kirill
No
>>69866089
I'm not that well read, but I remember the story of Sodom and Gamorrah. Apparently it's a little bit more of a detailed story than I was told as a youth, but the main point is that his wife turned into a pillar of salt when she looked back.
Guess I'm just glad I don't have carnal urges that draw me far enough to actually want to have sex with a guy. Nature has its mating rituals. Maybe I'm just a victim of nature.
>>69857290
M-muh morals.
Tears are getting tastier every year. Good job U S of A, you made them all cry. Looking forward to a complete meltdown of oriental religions in Europe. That is the way to go.
>>69865590
And in the real world the Church is dying, why? It does matter, the hersey and moral laxity within the Church leads to the loss of people and whole nations.
https://pjmedia.com/blog/latest-survey-finds-25-of-french-teenagers-are-muslims/
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>>69866241
>but the main point is that his wife turned into a pillar of salt when she looked back.
That's more to the point of how we often want to go back into sin when trying to escape it.
You want to "look back" and turn from righteousness because of your remaining attachments to that sin. Lot left sin behind and never gave a single thought to returning to that more of degeneracy, his wife wanted to look back, to turn and if but for a moment return to sin. And she was destroyed for it. She brought it on herself.
Biblical Exegesis informed by centuries of Sacred Tradition, it's what lets you read scripture and not tip like a faggot or whine about how your kids are going to sacrifice chickens to a moon demon if you let them watch Power Rangers.
>>69857290
>enshrining laws that give the "right" to sin,
absolutely right, even from an atheist point of view.
>>69866573
Yet its booming in Africa and Asia.
If the West dies, we shall create a new West, just as how when the Roman Empire died, we created a new Roman Empire. The entire modern Western World is that new Roman Empire.
>>69866904
It's kind of a common theme. One of the worst stories was that of the prodigal son. I mean, seriously, what the fuck?
Or those who love live are going to lose it but those who hate life are going to be forced to live forever? What the fuck is that?
I guess it all makes a lot more sense as you get older, but maybe we could do a better job getting kids up to speed.
>>69867109
Let me guess the source of their success:
Having lots and lots of homosexual/pederest priests?
Those Churches are non-POZ, our churches are POZZED.
>>69867218
The prodigal son was fucked up? The one where, to put it in modern context, an affluent kid buys a bus ticket with his his life savings, looses it all at the Roulette table and ends up living in a dumpster before swallowing his pride and returning home, hoping his dad will go easy on him and then his dad throws a welcome home party because as far as he knew, the kid had gotten stabbed to death behind a Chinese restaurant over his Nikes, and the fact he's safe and sound is cause for celebration?
How is that fucked up?
>>69857290
>RUSSIA STRONK
can these mongoloids be more butthurt?
>>69863690
Actually as an interesting aside, one of the earliest transhumanist thinkers was a Russian Orthodox. Nikolai Fyodorovich Fyodorov was writing about transhumanist elements all the way back in the 19th century.
Which makes sense, because Eastern Christianity is all about transcending human failures through faith in God and Jesus.
Imagine how easy it is to resist temptation if you could remove it from your body altogether.
So yes, I think Eastern Orthodoxy meshes well with transhumanism.
>>69867403
No, it's the fact they have a strong level of piety and that considering where they live, the seeds of the church is a martyr's blood. We thrive under persecution.
And also South Koreans are preferring Catholicisn to Protestantism because Catholic clergy are far less corrupt over there in their eyes. That yacht crash in Korea was due to a scammy Prot pastor.
>>69867646
I get it now. It's just that when I first heard it I was all like, "mommy, he crossed the borders and touched the things that belong to me! It's not faaaaaaiiiiirrrr!"
Maybe I just didn't have the best priest around to 'splain it to me at the time.
>>69867891
No worries mate I'm sure another paen to "social justice" from a gay jesuit will save old Christendom.
>>69857290
>Russian Patriarch Kirill
The most based fucking Patriarch that /pol/ deserves and needs.
Fuck outta here with cuck Patriarch Francis.
The faster religion dies the better.
Good riddance.
Fuck the Pope.
Fuck the Patriarch.
Fuck Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
Can't wait for the day when the Vatican is bulldozed to make way for a space launch pad.
>>69866112
The world recycles after. Eternal recurrence.
>>69866182
If you kill YHWH, he gets replaced with warrior aristocracies and a swarm of fertility rites course throughout europe. My dream is to infiltrate the catholic church and gradually replaced christ wth Dionysus, god of pain and birth, the ultimate sign of Life.
>>69868958
>replaced christ wth Dionysus, god of pain and birth, the ultimate sign of Life
What would Moses think of you?
>Christendom nearly killed Europe.
>Let's do that again
I'm all for removing progressive from any semblance of power but why the fuck give it to people who think mutilating genitals is a good idea?
>>69858546
non believer detected
Heresy ?! What are you talking about !
>>69858672
Do you understand the difference between a federation of multiple nations, and homogenous nation states receiving foreign nations inside its borders?
>>69858348
youre proxy perru, go fuck yourself lying cunt
>>69861497
>He started the war in Syria to divert attention from fail in donbass.
CIA shill detected.
>started the war in Syria
Jesus christ lmfao.
>>69869101
Hopefully the kike bastard would hate me. Probably the least religious man in history, changed some slave tribe into a materialist war cult with a sole male God to represent the sole male patriarchy of himself. Too bad he was a mortal and royally screwed the Jews heads up for the rest of time, constantly searching for the return of their dictator. View the world as a unholy slate, everyone else is cattle except the tribe, flee from pleasure at any cost: basically the first national socialist. You now see also why Nazism was a jewish replica only against the jew; theyre all different forms of nihilism and life-denial, ought to be ripped from the earth to heal it in glorious war.
SOON
>>69869843
He tipped over your money-changing tables.
Too bad you still can't get over it.
>>69858342
The whole *Russian*Orthodox church. Not Orthodoxy overall
>>69860192
The only reason you have that book to quote is that patriarchs existed to create it, save it and protect it. Go research the Orthodox Church and see that Christianity would be non existent without it
>>69857290
>200 million Russian Orthodox
there are liek 140 mill ppl in Russia and many of them are atheists and musslims, unless you have a 100 mill diaspora, i don't think so
ukraine isn't even under the russian autocephaly anymore
>>69857290
Fuck. I really fucking hope he dies in horrible death
I hate religion so much. Its cancer on human mind.
Religion is the reason of why russia so retarded - because it controlls the goverment.
Back then russia hated religion (from early 1900s to 90s). Its only now when this poison started to spread.
If you agree with this fuck then kill yourself.
>>6985792
I think it survived because the Orthodox church is the heart of slavic culture and Russian identity I think its no coincidence that Stalin revived the Church in 1941, communist propaganda alone was not enough to rally the people to fight a brutal war against the Axis powers let alone the brutality they were going to face from their own government.
>>69857928
This is for you, made a mistake.
>>69873038
