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my pastors are accepting any questions. Ask away. Appropriate only. We are protestant.
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>>69855370
Do you believe in god?
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>>69855370
how do we remove kebab?
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>>69855443
This desu
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>>69855370
I already asked about race mixing and strong independent women.
Race mixing = will make things difficult that dont need to be made difficult, so like how children will be raised, etc.
Strong independent women = bad. The man is the head of the family.
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>>69855370
ask him, does he know the Jews are responsible for Destroying our lives?
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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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what kind of fucking pews are those?
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What form of Protestant and what are their thoughts on Catholics and Orthodox?
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>>69855370
Tel him that he will never know what heaven feels like because he isn't Catholic
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"When Pope Francis declares the final crusade, will we be eligible to participate?"

It's a valid question and if they dodge it, ask if they take the threat of Christian genocide seriously.
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>>69855370

If a non-believer lives a moral life, will he go to heaven?
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>>69855574
This, always this
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Why did the Jews lie about the holocaust?
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>>69855370
Do you believe Jesus Christ's birthday actually on 9/11?
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>>69855370

Why is it necessary for Jesus to be of both a human and divine nature instead of one to the exclusion of the other?

Theology 101 basically, just to test him
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>>69855370
If God is omnipotent, can God create a burrito so large that even God couldn't eat it?
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>>69855443
>Are the mass Arab migrations of refugees to Europe a threat to Christianity in the West? On average, Arab families have much more children than Western families.

Asked
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>>69855654
Ohhhhhhhhh, that's good also.
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if adultery is a sin, did the virgin mary commit a sin by having God's child when she was married to adam?
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>>69855654
Will ask next
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>>69855370
Ask them if they think Protestantism in America is threatened by immigration from predominantly Catholic countries such as Mexico.
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Why do Catholics hate Protestants?

Literally every single one I've spoken to has some dumb shit to say against us
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>>69855370
Ask how are you suppose to love your enemies, even when they want to behead you in the name of their religion.
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>>69856115
Catholics hate Protestants and Protestants hate Catholics. It's been that way since Martin Luther wrote the 95 Theses. Both see the other as heresy.
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Ask them what they think of refugees
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>>69855370
What are you protesting?
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>>69855764
What was their answer? Ask if we should be coordinating another crusade. Wait for his answer, then just yell "Deus Vult" and walk out.
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>>69856262
The Catholic church...thats literally what Protestantism is. Christianity with a disdain for the Catholic church.
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>>69856115

The church has an intellectual tradition going very far back, and it's very well developed, so Protestants are seen as intellectual lightweights. Plus shit like woman priests
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See if they know the name of Job's wife.

Just so you know, she's not named, but this will be a good test of their Biblical expertise
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>>69856296
No answer yet.
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>>69856262

When we had religion classes in school, that's what I thought too. There were two options: Catholic or Protestant, and I remember thinking that Protestants would go outside and protest the fact that the classes were happening
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>>69856115
To the basic Protestant pleb, Catholicism looks like a cult that worships the pope and Mother Mary.

To the basic Catholic pleb, proddies look like a bunch of weirdo hicks who attend a hoedown on Sunday mornings instead of church.
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>>69856364
Mrs. Job
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>>69855370
Ask them why prophets always sought out a nonjew wife after they "met God"?
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>>69857305
Wait what?
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>>69857366
Abraham married a canaanite woman after Sarah died. Moses married a midianite girl. Joseph married an egyptian girl. David married a nonjew. Why is this?
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>>69856296
Answer: Trust God.
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>>69857640
Can you put it in a formal format so i can copy and text it
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>>69857646
Wow what a genius you got there. Or maybe he's avoiding the question
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>>69857777
Question got derailed. I asked about Europe and they took it as to USA.
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>>69857777
Heavenly quad confirms. Is the pastor is avoiding the question and telling the usual bullshit answer?
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Ask them why Ted Cruz was anointed by God to run for POTUS, yet tells lies constantly in violation of his proclaimed Christian faith.
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>>69857646
Tell him god told you to kill Muslims
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>>69857750
Why did Abraham, Joseph, Moses and David all marry nonisraelite women?
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>>69855370
Is suicide degenerate?
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>>69855370
Why do you believe in committing schisms, why do you support having no common ground to stand on?
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Ask if Adam and eve had belly buttons.
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I bet everyone is asking stupid theology type questions and OP is the only autist there asking about current events and politics.
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>>69855439
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>>69858160
This is LITERALLY the questions here.
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>>69855370
How do you reconcile your belief that murdering people you decide are you enemies is justifiable in any circumstance given there are a plethora of direct commandments from God/Christ that make it abundantly clear it's sin to do so?
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>>69858311
Ahahahaha looks like the kind of garbage I remember people asking at the church I grew up in. Why I stopped going there.
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>>69855370
is this coast hills?
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>>69857930
Moses didnt have a choice, was on run.
Joseph was a slave living in slavery.
They added that Mariam had leprosy because she was mad at Moses for marrying a dark skinned wife.
Overall, Gods will
Samson slept with that one girl because it was Gods plan to punish those people in the temple.
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>>69858311
Yep. That's pretty normal in churches. One of the reasons I don't attend around here. If other people find it fruitful - great.
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>>69858575
Its a youth Q&A
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Ask something about why should Christians blindly support Israel and follow the "chosen people" meme.
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>>69855370

Ask them why did Noah curse his son for covering him up after going on on a drunken stupor?
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>>69858311
>women
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>>69858694
It's like that in general Bible studies too in many places. Adult (>23) women often ask similar questions.
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>>69856350
>disdain for the Catholic church.

le catholix literally worship the pope and Mary maymay
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>>69858853
My disdain for Catholicism comes from apostolic succession mostly.
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Session is over. Thx for your questions
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>>69855370
>protestant

Edgy
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Ask them if Christians should have a "disdain" for Catholic and Orthodox Christians?

Alt: Given all the sin and heresy in the secular world, is it appropriate to have a "disdain" for a Christian religion over completely petty, meaningless differences?
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>>69859010
Catholicism =/= Catholics.
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>>69859065
?
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>>69858918
So Peter never existed?
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>>69859112
>Ask them if Christians should have a "disdain" for Catholic and Orthodox Christians?

Catholicism =/= Catholics. No one has disdain for people, they have disdain for some parts of an ideology.
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Marx was right about religion, the only way you can truly appreciate religion without being a slush for brain idiot is if you take a scholarly holistic approach to it which is far much to ask in this Vatican II, Protestant rock concert era ruled where the majority of what goes on in church is just singing terrible 90s alt rock style hymns
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>>69855370
>having more than one pastor
wtf is this shit?
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>>69859122
I believe Peter existed - I don't have to believe he had any super special magical powers, or that any super special magical powers he had carry on through other people each time he/the "chosen" successor dies.
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>>69855370
>We are protest-
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>>69859303
> I don't have to believe he had any super special magical powers, or that any super special magical powers he had carry on through other people each time he/the "chosen" successor dies.
Then you don't believe in Peter existed.
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>>69859326
I'd bet a large sum of money that more Protestants own guns and Catholics.
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Why isn't Jesus referred to as the New Adam? I feel like it would clear up the fact that much of the laws in the old testament (the original covenant) such as animal sacrifices, circumcision, forelocks and homosexuality are no longer necessary. Since he died for the original sin Adam and Eve committed.
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>>69859323
But Protestants had Johann Sebastian Bach.
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>>69859378
I fucking *love* Catholic "logic". It never ceases to entertain.
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>>69859277
It's kind of like the word "ministry" where they started giving every person and function of a church a title.

Most Protestant churches have Lead Pastors, Executive Pastors, Youth Pastors, Resident Pastors, Outreach Pastors, etc.
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Ask him what he should do if he "Likes it?"
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>>69859440
And I "love" protestant whoredom which does nothing to bring unity to the land.
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protestants btfo
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>>69859524
You literally abandon an argument and start memeing because you don't know how to respond to a disagreement.

And that's almost always the Catholic response - when you don't know how to actually make the case for your doctrine, you just say the other person is "just wrong" or something similar and get upset. Utterly laughable.
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>>69859440
daw chris chan is cute
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>>69859652
It's one in the morning, I just got done watching 5 hours of shit (who the fuck is booking this shit. Thank God Zach Ryder got over) Give me a break.
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>>69859400
and your point being?
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This triggers the tripfag
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>>69857777
God quints confirm leftist muzzie-lovers dodging the question
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>>69859780
You being tired doesn't mean you sperg out. If you don't feel up to a conversation you can just say so or leave.
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>>69859824
god quads* my bad long day
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>>69859808
I like memes though.
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>>69859808
so if the world ends now you are saved dont you?
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>>69859872
No no, I'm not leaving because some tripfag that can't handle the idea of a Pope, or Bishops, or the idea of pragmatic working shit that helps hold the Church together is a bad thing.
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>protestants

How many snakes do you play with during mass?
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>>69859978
It *is* a bad thing. Scripture is Scripture - it's not what some random fallible humans say it is, and you can't *establish* that it is what those random fallible humans say it is. You can only establish that they say it is that way.
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>>69855816

This implies they had sex
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Why do Christians so often make ritualistic, repetitive prayers aloud if they genuinely believe they're speaking to a being that can read their minds?
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>>69860002
>cathocucks

Don't you have some refugees feet to kiss?
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>>69860178
And more importantly, how can they tell the difference in their own souls between being grateful for something because they're genuinely grateful of their own recognizance and not because it's expected from them?
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>>69860125
>it's not what some random fallible humans say it is, and you can't *establish* that it is what those random fallible humans say it is.
Peter was fallible yet at the end of the day he's still alright.
>>69860206
Why is it that the protestant countries are taking in refugees?
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>>69860178
Because it makes them feel better. It's not rational really.
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>>69855816
whos adam? a third one? wow mary was loose
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>>69855370
Did you know that Trump is the Second Coming?
Actually ask them this. Its the truth.
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ask them what they think about catholics
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>>69860322
>Peter was fallible yet at the end of the day he's still alright
I don't disagree with that. But the Catholic Church does as its official stance. Your dogma relies on being infallible and unreproachable - that's what dogma means.
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>>69859403
Anyone?
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>>69859562

Why did god make the bible so hard to understand? iif you want people to stop believing just let them read the bible
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>>69860479
> But the Catholic Church does as its official stance. Your dogma relies on being infallible and unreproachable
Because it's a political/religious office.
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>>69855619
those are called chairs
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>>69855659
No, Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.No one gets to the Father except through Him
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>>69855741

The only reasonable question so far. This thread is filled with jackassery. I just realized how retarded this place is. It's a chance to learn something from a legit source but all you guys can think to do is ask smartassed questions. In short, you think it's better to be funny than to learn. And you're not even funny. But I guess anything is better than learning, right? I'm done with this shit hole. Sayonara, dipshits.
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What is the biblical support for apostolic succession?

Full QuestionWhy do Catholics cling so tightly to the tradition of apostolic succession when there's no biblical support for it? All you can point to are dubious opinions of a few early Christian writers.

Answer

We cling tightly to this tradition because it's true, for starters, and because all Christians are commanded to do so by Paul in 1 Corinthians 11:2 and 2 Thessalonians 2:15. For biblical corroboration look at Acts 1:21-26, where you'll see the apostles, immediately after Jesus' Ascension, acting swiftly to replace the position left vacant by Judas's suicide.

They prayed for guidance, asking God to show them which candidate was "chosen to take the place in this apostolic ministry from which Judas turned away." After choosing Matthias they laid hands on him to confer apostolic authority.

Look at 1 Timothy 1:6 and 4:14, where Paul reminds Timothy that the office of bishop had been conferred on him through the laying on of hands. Notice in 1 Timothy 5:22 that Paul advises Timothy not to be hasty in handing on this authority to others. In Titus Paul describes the apostolic authority Titus had received and urges him to act decisively in this leadership role.

Lastly, please do better homework on early Christian writings. The testimony of the early Church is deafening in its unanimous (yes, unanimous) assertion of apostolic succession. Far from being discussed by only a few, scattered writers, the belief that the apostles handed on their authority to others was one of the most frequently and vociferously defended doctrines in the first centuries of Christianity.
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>>69860621
Ask your priest whether the dogma of the Catholic Church could be wrong.

Given what you're saying, I don't think you'll like the answer.
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>>69860763
>Ask your priest whether the dogma of the Catholic Church could be wrong.
It can't, because that would mean it would be fallible.
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>>69858311
Is the answer to "Is it okay to data a guy a have other guy friends on the side?"

"No."?

Curious what the church teaches
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>>69860814
And what makes it infallible?
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>>69860344
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>>69860420
Trump wouldve been a great fucking question. Ill ask next time, our session ended.
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>>69860872
Because it has the backing of Christ.
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>>69860884
I don't think singing is a good form of worship senpai.
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>>69860926
It does? Even though all of it was established after Christ?
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>>69860755
man you sound like Israel asking for a king when they had God guiding them

>but i feel aloooone
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>>69860830
Answer: it is not okay to have a "boyfriend"/"girlfriend" in the first place. All emotional stuff like kissing and holding hands should only happen after marriage.
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>>69860763
As him how without a central and divinely ordained hierarchy can the bible be interpreted. How does he reconcile that what he preaches and another protest preaches is different? How can biblical truth be subjective.

That is unless he see himself as infallible.
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>>69855370
Oh look, an American 'church' AKA convention centre with a priest guy yelling into a microphone about praising jebus
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>>69860884
Oh how true this comic is. I've seen it in person and it's amazing in the worst way.
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>>69860985
Yes, because Christ said to Peter that Peter would build the foundation of Christ.
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>>69860985
>What is Pentecost
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>>69855370
Ask "What do you think about the holy Qur'an and the Prophet Mohammad, peace and blessings be upon him?"
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>>69861084
Our church is actually very interactive. We have sermons but we also have a moment in which anyone can talk about happenings and whatnot during their week, etc.
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>>69861035
>As him how without a central and divinely ordained hierarchy can the bible be interpreted
By anyone.

>How does he reconcile that what he preaches and another protest preaches is different?
Someone's right and the rest are wrong. Or else the differences in methodology aren't absolutes in themselves, like the difference between using x incense or y incense as being more worthy of God or something trivial like that.
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>>69861171
He was the foundation. He started the ministry and was fundamental to it. Where, exactly, do you get the idea that Peter "being the rock of the church" means anything more than that?
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>>69861197
But that's not how church is supposed to work you heretic. Social shit is supposed to be done in the church hall after mass
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>>69861181
>what is charitable argumentation
He came and went twice - obviously I mean the second time He left.
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>>69861283
Easy, Peter becoming a Martyr like Christ and then in turn having someone else take the helm of the Church. It's 1:31 and I'm not out to make an ass of myself, if anyone else wants to take over be my guess.
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>>69861510
"The helm"? Every Christian is a disciple of Christ. There's no "helm" - we're literally all equal in Christ.

This isn't an argument that Catholics have ground to stand on. It's what infuriates me about Catholicism.
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>>69861222
Yes but how does he know which are right and which are wrong? Many protest beliefs vary greatly and many of them have valid biblical reasoning. But that doesn't make them right. In America alone there are over 40k denominations. Is that realy how you believe christ would want it? Did Christ's lie when he said that he Would Build a church on the rock, Peter? Are we his flock truly abandoned by God with out any guidence doomed to argue and squabble while muddying the truth until the second comming?
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>>69860738
>A Christian guilt tripping people who aren't taking his religion seriously
I've never seen this tactic before...
You literally do this every time you don't get a red carpet laid down for you and you never give anyone an actual reason to take you seriously than, "well if you don't want to learn..."

Learn what? Tell me something profound that you're absolutely sure I've never seen before because I'm not sobbing about the state of the faith with you or fuck off.

>opportunity
lel
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>>69861084

why is this i never have seen this outside of the usa i really get this satan vibe from it
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>>69861649
It's all about hierarchy. Something that most people don't get.
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>>69861671
You don't - you'll have to wait for God to correct you on your inaccuracies if you had any. You do the best you can and be the most humble you can be - there's *absolutely nothing humble* about insisting "this dogma is true because we say it is". It's completely anti-Biblical.
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>>69861777
Hierarchy is anti-Biblical. We're literally all equal in Christ.
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>>69861195
ASK MY QUESTION REEEEEEEEEE
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>>69855370
Ask if aesthetics/space change as technology progresses alters consciousness of the congregation. The echoes of the old church hall being an example of a spiritual/emotional connection though space/architecture.
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>>69861781

It's not true because they say it is it true because it's truth. Do honestly believe that for 1500 years before martin luther the entire christian world was wrong about apastolic sucession?
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>>69861873
No you aren't. You aren't equal to the disciples and you're sure as hell not equal to Christ.
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>>69861949
>because it's the truth
Really? Establish it's the truth for me then. Since it's simply true, according to you, that should be easy.
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>>69861974
>equal in Christ
>equal *to* Christ
One of these things~
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>>69861949
but there were a real Christian house for sure b4 Luther, he just did wake up the sheeple
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>>69855659
Sola gratia
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>>69862052
Equal in Christ doesn't mean shit.
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>>69855370
You have the internet to look up anything you want. Why are you still fucking retarded and believe in fairy tales?
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>>69862273
Have you *ever* read the Gospels? *Ever*?
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>>69862317
he's catholic what do you think?
he only follow his fathers
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>>69862011
Bingo!

I can't because I can't speak extra Cathedra. Neither can you. My point is how do you avoid error without hierarchy. If what your saying is true then faith doesn't matter. You can believe what ever you wish as long as the interpretation comes from the bible.
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>>69862317
Yes.
>>69862276
Do you have a waifu?
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>>69862368
Oh no I totally expected these responses. Sometimes I think they share a hivemind with how predictable they are.
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>>69862399
Then how can you *POSSIBLY* say that?
Even in Galatians you have "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
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>>69862391
>I can't speak extra Cathedra
Who can then? And how do you know they can?
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>>69862494
>>>/r/eddit
>>69862556
>Then how can you *POSSIBLY* say that?
Easy, I just did.
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>>69862613
So you unabashedly ignore Scripture if you don't like its implication. Cucklics, everyone.
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>>69860947
Why not?
God is a greedy jealous kike that wants attention and nothing else. Singing does that.
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>>69862659
>So you unabashedly ignore Scripture if you don't like its implication
It's almost two and I'm arguing about shit in the bible. Equal in Christ doesn't translate to man.
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>>69862786
.......................
LITERALLY οὐk ἔνι Ἰουδαῖος οὐδὲ Ἕλλην, οὐk ἔνι δοῦλος οὐδὲ ἐλεύθερος, οὐk ἔνι ἄρσεν kαὶ θῆλυ· πάντες γὰρ ὑμεῖς εἷς ἐστε ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ.

>ἔνι ἄρσεν kαὶ θῆλυ
>man nor woman
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>>69862786
so are you saved or not?
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Ask them if they're secretly non-theistic but they cling to an elaborate mythology as an effective psychological trap which is most effdctivs on people that are oblivious to its purpose in creating a worldwide groupthink mentality they can use to stand on like a soapbox and shout down at everyone else for doing things they don't like.
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>>69862924
Ahuh, I can't read that. Neither can you. We aren't clergy, yet we're both arguing about shit in the bible.
>>69862929
I'm not going to hell.
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>>69862586
Apostolic succession! Unless you can trace your ordination line back to the apostles you don't have authority. Read early Christian writing they assert this.

From the acts of the apostles to 1500. Apostolic succession was accepted by all christendom
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>>69863026
so you are saved right?
cause Christ died in the cross and blessed you with that right?
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>>69863026
>We aren't clergy, yet we're both arguing about shit in the bible.
L I T E R A L L Y
S H E E P

And you *WONDER* why people don't respect Cucklicism. I've been to seminary - that doesn't mean I'm magically better than you. Although you're certainly not making much of a case.
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>>69863043
And how do you establish apostolic succession as even being a thing...?
It was accepted for millennia that the earth was flat too - didn't end up meaning much. You're literally engaging in a logical fallacy by appealing to tradition.
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My cousin is Pentecostal holiness and is engaged to a Catholic.
Their family is chill but clearly modern liberal shit but my aunt hates Catholics because they are like orthodox and that is why she left russia. How bad will the wedding be and do you think she will want Catholic wedding?
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>>69863138
I just answered your question didn't I?
>>69863143
>And you *WONDER* why people don't respect
No, it's because people are retarded. The Pope only has as much power as you give him. You look at Poland and they're flipping the Pope off.
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>>69862613

Brother we all are equally capable of receiving truth and doing good in Christ Jesus. We all will be equally righteous when resurrected in glory
Romans 9:15-17For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
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>>69863395
You literally tried to say you believe people who aren't priests either can't or at least shouldn't discuss Scripture. Holy fucking shit.
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>>69863395
you said you arent going to hell
where are you going?
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>>69863253

Its not an apeal to tradition. It's litterly history. So did peter fuck up by starting a line of bishops of rome?because his writings. The writing of his contemporaries and successors all confirmed the same thing.

He'll read the Bible. You still never adress my points here >>69860755
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Ask them if they're more afraid of God than they are of people who don't believe in him.
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>>69863477
>You literally tried to say you believe people who aren't priests either can't or at least shouldn't discuss Scripture.
Because they shouldn't. If they are properly trained then yeah, everything works out in the end.
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>>69863489
Purgatory, then Heaven?
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>>69863422
what I mean is that we all are justified in the works of our hands on that day. We are equal in the ability to do good now if we believe in Him, Christ Jesus, we are not all equally qualified in our carnal flesh but we are all equally able. And I find that wonderful.
He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
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>>69863572
Holy. Shit. Sheep.

>>69863525
It is *LITERALLY* an appeal to tradition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition
It is *EXACTLY* what you're doing, and it's what Cucklics do *ALL THE TIME*. Wolfshiem and the rest of you use the *EXACT* same methodology in how you try to argue for your absurd practices, and it's *ALWAYS* fundamentally wrong.
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>>69863718
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

WOOPS Forgot the whole verse!!!
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>>69857906
This.
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>>69863759
>individualism is totally okay
Get outta here commie.
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>>69863820
catholics are weird
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>>69863820
You were subtle up til now. It's sad that you literally passed for my average encounter and expectations of Catholics.
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>>69864002
What?
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did you know god isnt real?
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>>69855370
Ask your pastor if he/she believes he/she worship the same god as his/her congregants.

The obvious answer would seem to yes, but every person's concept will differ to various degrees. Hindu deities seem quite obviously to not the same deity as Yahweh, but you can get closer along the spectrum. Allah is more like Yahweh than the Hindu deities. The Jewish Yahweh is more like the Christian Yehway than Allah is. Mormons are closer to his deity than Jews. Catholics are closer to the same deity than Mormons. Another protestant denomination is closer to his deity than Catholics. Another church within his denomination is closer to his deity than another denomination. Are the congregants within his denomination, no matter how similar to his deity it may be, actually worshiping the same god?

100 is quite clearly a different number than 1, and so is 2. But even 1.00001 is not quite 1.

No matter how close, any slight difference at all, and it's not the same.
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did you know must protestants don't really even think about Catholics, they just go to church adn sing a bunch of psalms, and think "well gee Catholics are awfully strange." and that's the most of if.

I tried to join the Roman Catholic church myself and I was never accepted socially simply because I believed in Sola Fide, as the early Protestants defined it formally. It was the only reason, I was told I would bever be one of them because I disagreed. then I hear all the time complaints about we're all going to hell because I won't join the Catholic Church and then I see this on 4chan and it's frustrating. I want to come back but you faggots wont let me, just complaining onto eternity about how awful we all are. PLease forgive us and move on
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>>69858311
what kind of a weird shit is that
>>69855370
that fucking question is always asked by weird cunts who belong to cultish types of organizations. you getting ready to wipe out human kind or some shit you weird cunts
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>>69864220
shut up leaf
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>>69863759
So appealing to the bible is an apeal to tradition? Appealing to words of the bible is a fallacy. Wtf are you talking about? And all the letters and writings of the the very first Christians are a fallacy??? The very fucking words of Jesus Christ and the fucking apostles are FALLCYS? Stop throwing out words to sound smart. Appealing to tradition is a fallacy because it doesn't explain the origin. But I'm telling you the origin is the words of Christ and the apostles.
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>>69864221
Catholics are more often infuriatingly obstinate and illogical than not. If you won't accept their literal dogma they tend to want nothing to do with you, and will insist you're going to hell until you 100% get on board with their mass delusion.
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>>69864386
oh wait
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>>69864066

Proof it or shut the fuck up
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>>69864221
It was a Catholic Church at a university, I know that there are other ctholic churches that aren't like that, but I've yet to meet them.
I know that you don't say Protestants wil lgo to hell, what I mean is that all you do is condemn.

Its a small legalistic group that is pretty condemning towards you but Most in my experience just don't give a shit
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>>69864391
>From the acts of the apostles to 1500. Apostolic succession was accepted by all christendom
>Unless you can trace your ordination line back to the apostles you don't have authority. Read early Christian writing they assert this
>Do honestly believe that for 1500 years before martin luther the entire christian world was wrong about apastolic sucession?
>from the Bible
L e l
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>>69864401
Well you are going to hell. Hell is just the absent of God, no more, no less.
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>>69864618
why?
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>>69864618
No, you're going to hell.
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>>69864401
yeah I know how you feel, I just wish they were more friendly you know. No wonder were still divided. The Catholic and Orthodox church have a history of doctrinal divisions but people forget this and think that tey all agreed all the time and anyoen who differed was kicked out. It isn't like that.

I forgive you catholic faggots, I love you all but for god's sake please let in new church members, many protestants really want to come back
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Alright ill give

"Christianity has been in perpetual war with the Islamic faith since the razing of the Holy Sepulcher of Jesus Christ in 1009 by the Fatimid Caliphate, can these religions ever co-exist peacefully?"
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>>69864689
>posting my daughteru
Stop that.
And hell is just the absent of God, and anything else is hogwash.
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>>69864618

new christfag here god is life and death is eternal right that is what hell is , some kind of deathrow with a final judgement
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>>69864773
You're going there though. I know this because my priest tells me that if you don't believe everything he believes and tells me I should believe it's unavoidable.
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>>69864862
>I know this because my priest tells me that if you don't believe everything he believes and tells me I should believe it's unavoidable.
I don't follow your schismatic priest.
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>>69864445
there is no evidence for god.

rekt, kys.
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>>69864917
Mine is right though. He tells me so - whether you follow him or not is irrelevant.
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>>69864972
What does he have backing him?
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>>69864972
>your's
Why do people do this?
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>>69865022
God Almighty.

>>69865083
That's the joke.
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>>69865083
That's why.
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>>69864221
Catholics conceal the absurdity of their beliefs with a ridiculously elaborate information barrier that it takes years of dedication to absorb and process.

When you engage them they will always shift the discussion deep into Theology to catch you in your ignorance, even though it's the equivalent of debating the rules of how magical spells work in DnD for two hours.

Esoteric religions are like this too. You can watch two disciplines go at it over the details of some of the most wild shit and they take themselves super seriously.

Just look at this thread.
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>>69864966

there is no evidence that there is no god also
.But what would a leaf know go make your own hat tipping thread
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>>69865137
What a cruel joke.
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Look if you rely on man before Scripture can be mislead. There's alot of deception out there and there have been plenty of corrupt priests, John of Chrysostom said famously that the road to hell would be paved with the skulls of priests.

What I am saying is always fact check, there are other godly men, plenty of great saints from the early church even that disagreed with each other and certain doctrines, what matters is that the fruits and the intertretation of scripture line up. Not just what any of us say

IN my experience a simple prayer in faith alone can help you when no one else is there for you.
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>>69865137
Then he is one prideful motherfucker.
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>>69865176
>that it takes years of dedication to absorb and process
No, it's really just circular reasoning. It breaks down to "Catholic dogma is justified and validated by apostolic succession, and apostolic succession is justified and validated by church tradition, and church tradition is validated and justified by apostolic succession". It's viciously circular reasoning.
That's all it is.
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I'm not attacking a certain denomination, I've seen corruption in my own church, a baptist church,
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>>69865177
i just proved it to you. the fact there is no evidence of it is how disproving things works.
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>>69865247
Since that's exactly what the Catholic church does, I must declare resolutely - L M A O
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my answer to all of this discussion at this point is stop complaining and forgive each other, it's what Jesus wants I'm sure.

Please love each other
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>>69865401
No.
Matthew 16:18 I'm not reposting the damn thing again.
No bully.
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>>69865393
You don't have evidence your hand is attached to your arm either. You believe it anyway.
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What gets me about protestants in general is that the heresy isn't even interesting. Marcionites, Gnostics, Cathars, Free Spirit, there was creative shit there. Protestants just do nothing. Muh Bible, muh Jesus. The end.

Mormons are pretty cool I guess. ENDLESS CELESTIAL SEX AND GOD OF YOUR WORLD. Its like some edgy teenager made a religion and people bought it.

But seriously tho stop playin come back to actual Christianity this is emberassin.
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>>69865393

Proof to me that god did not create everything one second ago , you just think that you existed before
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>>69865486
And the interpretation of that verse that is far more reasonable, posted >>69861283 is wrong because...?
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>>69865592
Unless your priest has the lineage of Peter, then no, he's a prideful bastard.
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>>69865725
You didn't answer the question at all.
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>>69865498
yes i do, i can see it, dummy
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>>69865486
why dont you take Matthew 19:21 literally then?
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>>69865513
prove to me cthulu didnt create everything 69 seconds ago. oh wait you cant
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>>69865766
That doesn't mean it's actually there. You could literally be a brain in a vat, with your "experiences" fed to you by a machine.
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>>69865755
I know.
>>69865783
Because I'm a vapid cunt that's not willing to let go.
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>protestants

bahahahahhahaha what a joke
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>>69865817
>Because I'm a vapid cunt that's not willing to let go.
Better an honest vapid cunt than a weasel like Weaselshiem.

I hope you get over it one day.
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>>69865393

no that works only if there is a scientific expirement to disprove god , and there is not
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>>69865915
I trust Wolfshiem because he's not rude desu.
Bully.
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>>69865980
Satan was never rude either.
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>>69865813
now you are arguing solopsism, this is irrelevant.
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>>69865802

no i cant everything is optional
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>>69866009
No bully, he's a cool cat.
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>>69866011
I don't have to talk about solipsism to push the point across. I can just bring up the problem of induction. How do you deal with it?
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>>69866009

what is up with that, with job he seems bro tier with god. and then in revelation shit is going down
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>>69866064
He's literally a weasel. Apostolic succession requires circular reasoning to function, and he *KNOWS THIS*, and yet he just pretends otherwise. Either that or he is an absolute idiot, and I doubt that since he's mostly articulate.
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>>69865919
plenty of people have tested the efficacy of prayer, and that showed prayer isnt answered.

but whats important is that for thins to be considered true they must have supporting evidence. or else you must consider them false, because if you didnt youd have to believe everything else for which there is no evidence, and thereby completely fail logic and coherence. youd have to start watching out for unicorns.

or just be a massive degenerate hypocrit, an inferior mind who can only wish to be as smart and sexy as the smart atheists who get girls and solve the worlds problems.
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>>69866156
he's just one of his tools
maybe John is over reacting in revelations
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>>69866197
It doesn't, it says in the bible that it exists and that's that.
No bully, I don't wanna get attacked by smug.
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>>69866032

truth aint optional friend.
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>>69866110
now the dumb theist is talking about stoves, baka
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