>America is based on multiculturalism
>it's the melting pot of the world
migration without assimilation is invasion.
pretty much what colonists did to the natives, only this time, were the natives
Go full racist and say the truth that America was founded by white men for white men. Only white male land owners were allowed to vote
Only white European immigrants were allowed in until Jews opened the gates to the world
Ask her why a melting pot is objectively, inherently good.
>>69855261
Are you armed?
America was based on immigrants coming to America and adopting American values and thustly excelling. Not catering to the values of other, more primitive nations.
i hate bublers, they clog and are really hard to clean
Ask them why their pipes all look like sucknig on a cock and balls.
>>69855261
Vape Nation
VN
America was never multicultural until the past few decades. Ask your friends for proof of any of the founding fathers talking about a melting pot or multiculturalism. Where in the declaration of independence or constitution is it mentioned or the federalist papers or any of their personal writings or any of the very influential pamphlets of the late 18th century? You were supposed to assimilate to wasp like ways and learn the english language. We didnt have voting ballots in German and Spanish in the early 19th century. Plus, melting pot means assimilation, its the opposite of multicult.
>>69855261
unadultered immigration means every poor spic will flood your country
immigration must be selective to preserve national identity and ensure that all citizens are the best of the best
>>69855416
So then the entire inception of America is immoral by your own words?
>>69855261
why are white countries always the melting pot?
>>69855261
(1) The immigration pre 1965 was qualitatively different than what we have now.
(2) The question isn't "what is America" but rather what kind of objectives you want to fulfill. One of them is having a quality society. It's not okay to bring in people who have been socialized differently, want to be socialized differently, to a country without any expectation that they're going change to adapt to said society. You also can't assume that diversity is always good in so far as that diversity may go against the social goals you have. Big fucking case in point : Islam.
>>69855633
Specifically mention the immigration act of 1965, and correlate that to crime and degeneracy. Before that our immigration was european based, and when we were at our best. Post 1965, only shit everywhere.
>>69855261
"America has only worked as a multicultural nation because of a strong patriotism inherent in its culture. The destruction of ethnically-inclusive nationalism in the United States is the death knell of freedom in America and therefore destabilizing on a global scale."
>>69855555
lel truth
>>69855261
Everyone integrated. "White people" are actually a mixture of very distinct European cultures.
Multiculturalism discourages integration. And a democracy can't function if the people don't integrate together. Too many different interest groups.
>>69855261
tell them the wall just got 10ft higher
>>69855771
Also, one of the reasons Immigration was cut off in 1923 or so because the italians, slavs and east asians werent assimilating rapidly enough.
>>69855261
I used to love weed. It is the most degenerate drug. Toss that filth and embrace a good diet of dark leafy greens instead of your "green".
Live a healthy life. Breed a healthy mind. Cultivate a healthy spirit. Identity politics mean nothing to a person who is complete.
>>69855261
Amerika was based on revolutionary independent pioneer spirit all that other shit was literally the media Jew muddying the waters during the 20th century.
>>69855888
Same. This thread makes me want to take a fat b-rip, though, holy fuck.
>>69855261
multiple (white) cultures abandoning their old societies to create a new one versus multiple (nonwhite) ethnicities coming to an established society to take handouts and contribute to "democracy"
>>69855416
People from Germany and Italy selling their iconic food is a lot different to a person from the third world, also we have the Welfare state now.
>>69855261
America was also based on slavery.
ask your friend if that should still be allowed unchecked
>>69855261
>Getting out of pseudoarguments
>Going to pol for sophism
Multiculturalism?
Thats not the melting pot. Thats not equatable.
Multiculturalism means you have more than one culture co-existing separately within a nation (ie French and English).
Melting pot means you combine a ton of cultures to create a creole or mono-culture.
America is great because it blended cultures and took the best from them (same thing the Romans did, and Spanish did for awhile).
In this manner, your culture doesnt stagnate.
Thing is, the melting pot is pretty much dead in America, and all the new immigrants to protect their culture.
Its not even, nor should it have to be "adopt american culture", but rather "join the melting pot".
Saying that, like the internet or globalized culture (another melting pot) or whathave you, if you have 200 years of a certain culture developed in the pot already, whatever you add in isn't gunna change it much.
Countries which push for "multiculturalism" stave off progress, and countries which demand random newer cultures jump into the melting pot to be stripped and at this point add a little flavor to an already established pot become superior when the best qualities of other cultures are mixed in naturally and the shitty ones ditched.
>>69855888
faggot waste of trips.
people have been smoking hashish and cannabis for thousands of years.
there is nothing healthy about the 20 mountain dews a day you drink
>>69855633
>Plus, melting pot means assimilation, its the opposite of multicult.
that's good; it's more like a trash can
>>69855261
America isn't based on multi culti bullshit.
It's "based on" a bunch of people who told their government to fuck off so they could earn their own living and be left alone. Many of those people were not white, yes, but what they had in common was far more important than their race.
>>69855261
Everyone will be half Mexican in 20 years. How does that feel /pol/?
>>69855711
immoral and moral are subjective to different people.
people looking inside from out might see nothing but immoral murdering and pillaging. but to someone living inside to protect your birthland is as moral and righteous as it can get
>>69855711
Yes faggot, we try to learn from history here.
>>69856206
>still smoking the leafy jew
>>69855261
1. The levels of american immigration are higher than ever. It's far beyond what it used to be back before the 1970s, both in total amount and percentages (when comparing to the existing population).
2. You are in the same boat with the immigrants that are already there. Taking more may not be the best thing for them either. Are they ready for the fact that US infrastructure may not be able to sustain what most 1st world people consider an adequate quality of life for everybody when (among other services) schools and medical centers are overburdened? What if housing cannot keep up with the trends (as has been seen elsewhere)? Trying to take more than you can handle will cause a world of hurt. And these are just a few examples.
3. Multiculturalism is not the same as a melting pot of cultures. Plenty of reasons why ITT.
>>69855261
>we were never at war with eurasia
>anti-tradition is the only tradition
Cultures can be too different to co-exist, cannibals and vegan societies probably don't see eye to eye, mutual respect of key values aren't always gauranteed so an assessment of another culture is perfectly valid - different doesn't equal good.
>>69855261
Neither of those statements are true.
>America is based on multiculturalism
In no sense was this ever true. America was originally based on individual freedom, as the Puritans came here to practice their religion that they couldn't practice in Europe. Likewise, there are no clauses in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution that say anything about multiculturalism.
>it's the melting pot of the world
When America was first called a melting pot was in the early 1900's, in reference to different "races" of European peoples coming together, living shoulder-to-shoulder, and gradually assimilating. The statement is based on the assumption that everybody in the melting pot is CAPABLE of assimilating. Whites living with other whites are capable of assimilating. However, mudskins are NEVER capable of assimilating with whites because even after a generation and they lose their accents, they will always be visually different from whites. This is considered common sense in much of the world, but for some reason in white countries, we don't get it.
America is not a melting pot, America is a chamber pot.
>>69855261
Nice dildo
Only degenerates smoke wacky tobaky
>>69855261
>America is based on multiculturalism
Wrong. It's mostly based on Anglo-Saxon culture. Look at who wrote the U.S constitution and The Bill of Rights and look at what cultures influenced those ideas.
>it's the melting pot of the world
No. It was the melting pot of northern Europe until 1965 when our immigration laws were changed to allow jewish refugees into the country. see: 1965 Immigration Act. The laws were loosened enough to allow immigration from virtually anywhere and we've been in a demographic shift ever since. If this same shift was happening in reverse to a nonwhite country, there would be a liberal outrage.
Africans are here because of slavery.
The melting pot maymay was invented by Israel Zangwill in the early 20th century long after the founding of this country. If I recall correctly, he was mostly referring to European cultures coming together in a melting pot.
>>69855261
the answer to your question has to do with:
the statue of liberty, a poem, the joos, and emma lazarus
http://www.jewishpost.com/culture/emma-lazarus-the-new-colossus.html
>>69855261
That's not an argument. It's an opinion with no reasoning.
>>69855261
>>69859696
https://smashculturalmarxism.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/the-statue-of-liberty-a-false-beacon-for-mass-immigration/
>This poem has come to falsely represent the myth that America is a nation that should open its arms to the world and its people, and that the once 90% European majority who built America, should not oppose it.
>“Whose interest could have been served in having America flooded with ‘wretched refuse’? It was in the perceived interest of a cohesive people who use racial solidarity like a weapon, a weapon they want only for themselves. The efforts to change the American immigration law and ultimately displace the European majority has been led almost exclusively by Jews.”
>Emma Lazarus was typical of your diaspora Jew, she advocated and pushed for ‘racial diversity’ in America as they do across the West, but who also wanted an exclusively Jewish state in Palestine for Jews.
>>69855711
Yes. So is England.
Angles and Saxons invaded the Britons and the Normans invaded the Anglo-Saxons.
