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Why the fuck do we base our lives around a corrupt system that has put billions of people in poverty, sustains racism and is killing the entire fucking planet?
Shouldn't we be progressed past this fucking point already?
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It also put billions of people in a state of comfort and good wealth.

There's always going to be failures.
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It's profitable and competition does breed innovation. That being said, when left unregulated it is a huge fucking problem. Profit being the primary end goal far above all others is not the best for many services that people need on a daily basis.
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>>69825274
Captialism is literally the entire fucking reason why slavery ever existed.
There's no excuse for these kinds of failures.
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>>69825397
No it wasn't. Slavery existed long before capitalism.
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I think a hybrid of socialism and capitalism is the best as it takes the best of both worlds and negates problems caused by each side.
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>>69825438
Even leaf cutter ants in the amazon that capture other insects sometimes use them as slaves instead of killing them. Slavery is an ooold concept.
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>>69825438
Whatever mechantilism is basically capitalism without money. It's just the same shit with the haves controlling the have nots.

>>69825448
Or how about pure socialism like every other modern country in the world
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>>69825107
Pure capitalism is not bad. When we mix capitalism with socialistic ideas we get disaster. Welfare devalues money. Money is not bad.
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>>69825587
What? Man I don't think you know what pure socialism is. Those Nordic nations all have social democracy which is a mix of capitalism and socialism. Exactly what I'm referencing.
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>>69825107
it's not free market capitalism, that's the problem burger
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>>69825587
Slavery literally existed before we adopted the concept of currency.

Capitalism is a tool. Slavery was just another longstanding business venture.
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>>69825107
But we don't base our lives around communism. I don't see the point of this thread
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>>69825865
It's just another nig nogging.
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>>69825747
Well their socialism comes first not the capitalism. It's basically light socialism.

>>69825755
Then what the fuck is it?

>>69825761
Yeah but it only existed because rich traders had a demand to trade them. It doesn't matter if there was money or not.

>>69825865
Real funny.
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>>69825632
She's an idiot. The idea is the love of money is the root of evil. Very different
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It's not the system, it's the people.
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>>69825632
Those who control money are in power. Jews, cough...Jews.
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>>69826006
Well no. Means of production are privately owned, it's certainly not pure socialism.
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>>69825107
>Why the fuck do we base our lives around a corrupt system that has put billions of people in poverty, sustains racism and is killing the entire fucking planet?
But the Berlin Wall fell, we don't do that anymore, save for a few shit nations in the far east that nobody cares about anyway.
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>>69826045
Why is it wrong to love money?
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Communism creates poverty
Free Market Capitalism allows anyone able to work to alleviate themselves from poverty
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>>69826524
LOL
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>>69826006
There was no trade. Animals take slaves to do their bidding. It's as simple as that. The trade came later among trade for other things. Slaves are just another product to be traded.

Don't blame the tool of trade for something that already existed. That's like saying capitalism is responsible for diamonds.
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>>69825107
Keep working. You'll be rich one day. Trust me.
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>>69825107
capitalism mimics natural laws. Competition is the way of Life.
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OP I was 12 once as well.
Also don't you need to be 18 to post on 4chan?
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>>69826524
I get what you are saying but individual poverty doesn't exist in communism, only nationwide poverty.
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>>69826769

not an argument
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>>69826662
He's not wrong, retard.
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>>69826884

You have to admit Darwinism is a pretty good model.
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>>69827018
Considering that there are poor people who don't want to be poor and try as hard as they can, he is wrong.
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>>69826769

Rape and genocide is the way of life, we should back to feudalism and turn the world in africa following this logic.
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>>69827108
Good model for what? What makes it good?
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>>69827108
i want to kill people but its illegal
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>>69826884
It's not an argument, it's a fact.
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>>69827132
>Considering that there are poor people who don't want to be poor and try as hard as they can
Your argument implies those people exist. I challenge that assertion. What are you going to do about it?
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>>69827132
If you try as hard as you can and you're still shit that's just unfortunate, but you can only blame yourself
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>>69827426
Well you're wrong. There are plenty of people who work their asses off and are still poor. There are people who are poorer than me that work much harder than me.

>>69827448
Or possibly the system that one lives within. Someone who is shit now would have a fine life 35 years ago in the same place if the nature of the society and economy changed. This level of individualist thinking you have is not only very short sighted, but also fallacious.
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>>69825363
Well said.
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>>69826841


Communism (really socialism and state-capitalism since communism by definition requires a world government) is simply too inefficient.

We have proven records time and time again of the inefficiency of socialism and communism.

When a man in communism is inefficient he himself is poor, his family or friends may be rich however.

When a government is inefficient in communism (which all are due to a lack of competition) all men are struck into poverty.

Look up the holodomor.

You may say "look at Europe" but Switzerland has no minimum wage, Norway had a freer market form of capitalism than even the USA and still is considered more free in terms of capitalism in many areas.

Not to mention they are a tiny nation who struck oil, who are now going through large bursts of unemployment and poverty due to the oil industry just not being what it used to be.

You have Sweden with very similar positions also.

There's also the fact none of these European nations pay nearly as much as the USA does on defense or even on welfare.

Look at pic related can you really say that we should find these programs more?
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>>69826314
Topkek
I see what you did there
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>>69827653
You're not even making any arguments. You're just saying things and forming sentences. What even is the point in this thread?
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>>69825107
Capitalism has a good fundamental principle in it that does mimic nature as >>69826769 points out. This principle is free market competition. Unfortunately, free markets don't persist very long and lead directly to monopolies which entrench themselves through corruption, defeating the fundamental good nature of capitalism.

However, nature isn't always about such direct competition, either. Counterpoint to >>69826769; Competition is _A_ way of life. There is the existence of a very different survival strategy that we see in nature when resources are -not- scarce: Fast breeding, lots of children, no child rearing, no in-groups, no competition. This diversifies genetic stock and explodes population numbers which can easily increase the survivability of the species on the whole, but it does mean that on an individual level species members tend to be weak and non-competitive which can be a disaster for most when resources do become scarce.

What we're seeing today is this form of naturalism taking place. We're 'soft' because we can afford to be soft. There is a surplus of resources which means there's no 'culling of the herd'. This *isn't* a bad situation and shouldn't be seen as a bad thing. It's just a result of our circumstances. It's like complaining that the sun shines too brightly.

When or if resources grow scarce again, and competition becomes necessary for survival of your progeny vs others, we'll see a resurgence of right-wing politics and whites in general.
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>>69827892
You're saying people are poor because they don't try hard enough, I'm saying there are plenty of poor people who work their asses off for money. This really isn't that difficult.
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>>69827653
>Someone who is shit now would have a fine life 35 years ago in the same place if the nature of the society and economy changed.
Or it would be even worse. Baseless speculation about what could be at some point in the future is a waste of time. Besides, there still would be OTHER poor people who are trying hard, so what does it matter?
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>>69825107
>Shouldn't we be progressed past this fucking point already?

[Current Year Intensifies]
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>>69827231

Survival of our race.
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>>69827132
>tfw earning 50,000
>tfw frugal saving only use up 30,000 yearly
>tfw saving 20,000 a year
>tfw become a millionaire after working the same damn job for 50 years
>implying you won't get raises and promotions within 50 years of labor
I think people that remain poor and complain that they are "really trying" are retards.
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>>69827653

Working hard isn't enough, working smart and having merit is the important point as is the work of your parents and the like.

And to continue on from

>>69827828

Pic related is USA's poverty rate, notice how poverty was going down gradually? How it all stopped and stabilized in the 1960's? This is when the government started the war on poverty.

These socialistic policies don't actually benefit the poor, they keep the poor as they are.

If you want a proof on a system that maximizes efficiency therefore helping the most people look at the miracle of chile.

Pinochet came into power, forcibly enacting Chicago school style authoritarian libertarian capitalism.
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>>69828013
The free market gives them every opportunity to succeed, and if they really do work as hard as you say, they would be rewarded respectively. Unfortunately we don't have a free market and some peoples efforts are known to go down the drain. Is it capitalism's fault that we don't have a free market?
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>>69825107
You don't have to. But how the fuck are you gonna stop it?
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>>69828117
You realize that white people aren't the smartest people on Earth right?

>>69828063
The point of the statement was to show the huge societal influence on poverty and quality of life.
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>>69825107
I enjoy capitalism. That freedom to buy and sell as you please, gotta love it.

>puts billions of people in poverty

No, they put themselves there. That's the beauty of capitalism: The people that don't try are the ones who starve. Yes, it sucks that they have to starve, but under any other system, they'll drag the rest of us down with them and everyone will starve, because you can't sustain a system where people don't have to earn everything.
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>>69828065
>tfw liberals
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>>69828253
Some people aren't that smart. Some people got completely fucked by their childhood and early life.
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>>69828253


Is this not proof of how efficient capitalism is?
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>>69827223
It's another way of "nature" just more advanced and helpful.
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>>69828413
For individuals maybe. For society as a whole hardly. There'll always be winners and losers in the great game of life.
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We shouldn't argue against communism with fool like OP, we should just send them to Cuba, Venezuela or ultimately North Korea to experience real socialism, and when they start to starve to death we could ban them from entering any airport so they would be unable to go to any capitalist country where the supermarkets are filled with food instead of the empty supermarkets in socialist countries
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>>69825397
>monarchies and feudal states didn't have slaves

wew lad

If anything capitalism freed the world's slaves as slavery isn't profitable to the system at large
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>>69828413
lol
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>>69828489

And? This is life, life isn't inherently fair.

The law of the strong exists in nature for a reason and realistically still manifests even in communism.

The fact is, the strong survive and the weak perish and this will never change.

Darwin got the term "survival of the fittest" from spencerism. Spencer applied the term to economics and man.

The fact is we can punish the sum of all people for the faults of the weak or we can allow nature to take its course and cull the weak.

This might sound harsh but this is reality.
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>>69825587
There's no such thing a "pure socialism", socialism by definition is capitalism but people taxed based on how much they contribute.

You honestly don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Slavery doesn't exist because of capitalism, it exists because people can force others to do shit for them. It's existed before "currency" was a thing, in hunter gatherer tribes.
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>>69828705
>i just repeat whatever my professor tells me

what is the deal with college professors spreading this cancerous ideology
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Does anyone know of other worthwhile capitalism vs socialism debates?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGo2G1Sjb6M
The one I've posted is of the morality of each system. It features Leonard Peikoff, John Ridpath, and two democratic socialists. I'd also prefer it if those endorsing socialism were more intelligent than the ones included here.
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>>69828896
Jews, basically.
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>>69828911
Here is a good monologue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-T0ey0IKDA
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>>69828117
Fierce competition for survival isn't always the best strategy. It depends on the circumstances of the environment. You are confusing what Darwinian evolution implies by 'the best species survives'. The best species isn't necessarily the most individually competent, but rather the one best suited to the environment it lives in.

A highly competitive species invests more into their child-rearing and tends to have very few children as a result. However on an individual level they're competent - and need to be in order to survive the harsh conditions where it is not a question, "Who will die?", but "who gets to live?".

A non-competitive species can have children willy-nilly, and in an environment where resources are not scarce, they will rapidly out-compete the slow-breeding competitive species through sheer numbers.

Whites are a K-selection race in the human species. Whites evolved in a harsh environment that necessitated strong competition in order to maximize survival chances, and as a direct result, whites don't have high natural birth rates, but do take care of their children very well. Most of the other human races (blacks especially) have evolved within environments that are very r-selection biased, where resources are not scarce and the environment isn't so dangerous.

Neither survival strategy is necessarily better than the other, they just fit different environments.

And right now the natural environment on the planet is more beneficial to the r-selection species than it is to the K-selection species.
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>>69825632
Pure capitalism is awful. Have you ever actually stopped to think about what pure capitalism is?
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>>69828810
Capitalism is cancer because it makes the entire republic government system fixed, it should NEVER BE POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WITH ALOT OF MONEY TO CONTROL GOVERNMENTS EVER.
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>>69827653
>Fallacious

Holy shit.
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>>69828221
This
My mom went to the U.S. without a college degree and found a job in 2 weeks earning 30k a year which i think its ok since she doesn't has a degree or much working experience
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>>69829078
We only call it crony capitalism because we can't expect black people to be able to pronounce 'plutocratic oligarchy'. It's actually not in the free market's best interest for government to be corrupted by bankers.
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>>69828836
>socialism by definition is capitalism but people taxed based on how much they contribute.
What kind of grade school did you drop out off that taught you this definition?
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>>69827653
>I have wealth, but don't work hard
>There exists people who work harder than me, but don't have wealth
>therefore the assertion that poor people cannot work out of poverty is wrong

You're using a relativistic determiner when your argument only works if you show that people can be poor while putting in above the median level of effort.

Effectively you made this claim
>A 125lb man who lifts weights once a month, but is still weaker than a 200lb man who doesn't exercise at all implies that exercise is meaningless and doesn't work
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>>69828221

Honestly if you just work hard, save money, get at least a high school to college education and marry when you are in your late 20's or later you will be pretty much fine for life.
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>>69829547
Peak male sexual attractiveness is around 36
Peak female sexual attractiveness is around 20

Men and women should keep this in mind.
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Capitalism is a perfect system if you're not retarded and now how to operate with in it such as working hard and making smart career moves. Also it's not killing the planet, it's saving with investments in alternative energies.

And there's nothing wrong with the racism aspect. Whites deserve to be wealthier than lesser races like Africans. It is our right and destiny.
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>>69829725
Capitalism is not a perfect system and you have to be a naive fool to believe it is.

Capitalism is mostly good, but to say it's perfect is hyperbole at best.
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get shrekt communist faggots
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>>69828013
Hard work isn't inherently valuable either. A person digging ditches and refilling them on the side of the road will work harder than a person watering a garden, yet the ditch digger will eat worse than the gardener if both are left to their own devices.

There are structural problems which trap people into poverty, but there is mobility available to almost everyone who is not severely handicapped
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>>69829896

No system is perfect however it is simply the best system we have.

I personally believe a collectivistic capitalism, a nationalist capitalism that keeps all money in the nation and works to maximize the profits of the nation against other nations is probably the best system.

Basically national libertarianism
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>>69828221
This. If you want to completely avoid poverty in a free Western society you only need to do three things:
Finish high school
Don't have kids before you're married
Get and keep a job, any job. (Most important)
Poor people are lazy, stupid and impatient.
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>>69825363
annd
/thread
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>>69825107

Congratulations OP! You have won a free Helicopter ride for you and your whole family.
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>>69828413
We must secure a future for white children
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>>69828013

No people are poor because they don't work hard enough and they aren't smart enough.

Making bad decisions is stupid. The poor by majority have the lowest IQ on average with the top 1% having the top 1% of highest intellect usually.
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>>69825107
Capitalism has outlived it's usefulness, especially with the endless growth model. But communism isn't the answer. The transition to a better system is going to involve shorter work weeks as automation spikes productivity, basic income as a stopgap to deal with massive unemployment and extreme inequality.
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>>69825107
"Human behaviour is economic behaviour. The particulars may vary, but competition for limited resources remains a constant. Need as well as greed have followed us to the stars, and the rewards of wealth still await those wise enough to recognise this deep thrumming of our common pulse."
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>>69830281
Dude, fuck off
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>>69825107
Because having a system that COULD end up like that is better than one forced on you by a government that WOULD end up like that.

SUCK A BIG FAT DICK YOU COMMUNIST FUCK!

You're system has never worked, will never work, and you are fucking scum.
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>>69828221
Ayn rand is an idiot, how is the sentence
>this sentence is a lie
not a contradiction?

>>69827828
>When a man in communism is inefficient he himself is poor, his family or friends may be rich however.

>When a government is inefficient in communism (which all are due to a lack of competition) all men are struck into poverty.

>Look up the holodomor.
look up 1970's china, there were no famines and it was the period when China was pushed deeper into communism. How many Famines has Vietnam had since Ho Chi Minh took power?
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>>69825107
Capitalism is only a problem for multicultural societies because regulation can only occur when there is a single ethnic group.

Shame as a function of society only works within ethnic groups because everyone has both in-group preference and racist tendencies. I can't shame a nigger for selling drugs because in his eyes I'm just a jealous white boy. Likewise, an Asian guy can't shame a Muslim Arab for not working because of his religion.
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>>69829896
My Econ professor had an interesting opinion on different economic systems. To him, the bigger question was societal. All systems sound good on paper, but will they work in X society under Y conditions? And should we seriously entertain the notion or expect the same system to apply universally in the absence of absolute cultural and political hegemony?
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>>69830528
Fuck... "you're" dumbass phone... your
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>>69825107
>Implying the average person now doesn't have more economic power than ever before
>implying the free market doesn't make racism uneconomical
>implying we can have anything that has the trappings of modernity without using resources

>implying we live under capitalism and not cronyism
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>>69830539
Why don't you try actually reading Rand before critiquing her you fucking cuck?
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>>69825107
>sustains racism
That's enough for me to support it. I hate you fucking communists because you want to force me to be around and play nice with people I hate. I hope this entire leftist system collapses and all your dreams turn to ash.
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>>69830073
>Poor people are lazy, stupid and impatient.
so what?
>he believe hardwork and wealth are correlated

maybe at the level where you agree to work overtime, but that does not account for more than 20,000 dollars a year MAXIMUM. Hardwork won't explain millions and billions made under ten years.

Steve Jobs made his fortune being lazy, stupid and impatient towards nerds.
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>>69825397
>Captialism is literally the entire fucking reason why slavery ever existed.
The Egyptians were capitalists? Wow didn't know that.
The Romans were capitalists? Wow didn't know that.
The Babylonians were capitalists? Wow I didn't know that.
I can go on and on and on...
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>>69825107
No system has raised more people out of poverty and improved more lives than capitalism.
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>>69826425
Because you will end up like Jews.
There's nothing wrong with making lots of money.
The main context of "the love of money is the root of all evil" is that people who are greedy are morally evil.
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>>69830647
In my eyes, the best traits of an economic system should be adaptability and elegance.

Hell, you could probably consider adaptability a part of elegance. Simplicity too.

A free market system where prices are naturally decided by supply and demand is what I would call an elegant system. It works under virtually every condition and it is very simple.

Economic and political policies should strive for this.
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>>69830870
It will.

Everything the left foists upon everyone eventually does.
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>>69831009
viewing people as property is very capitalistic m9
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>>69831024
/thread
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>How many famines were there when HCM was put in power
>Ignores the mass amount of people he outright killed or tortured

HCM, after his Viet Minh ascended to power on Sep 2, 1945 across most of North Vietnam, then arrested and imprisoned [many disappeared, ie. killed] all non-Communist Viet Minh members and allies who fought alongside him against the French, to monopolize Communist power in the Hanoi government. These included the Vietnam Nationalist Party [Viet Nam Quoc Dan Dang], who were rounded up and whisked away from the Hanoi hotel they stayed at, a few managed to hide then escaped to South Vietnam. HCM had many other rival, non-Communist anti-French nationalist revolutionaries killed as well along the way, including President Ngo Dinh Diem's brother, Ngo Dinh Khoi. HCM also attempted to kill Diem as well, but failed.
HCM's Land Reform killed an estimated 172,000 North Vietnamese labelled as ''landlords'', actually many were either political opponents/dissidents, perceived ''class enemies'' and demographic groups perceived unsupportive of the Communists, people who didn't allow HCM's collectivization and land/property confiscations, etc. Many ''landlords'' were killed by burying them alive, or had their body buried underground with their heads overground and beheaded by a rice plough. He claimed that the Land Reform was a ''mistake'' that ''was undertaken by his overzealous, wrongful cadres and subordinates'' to avoid his responsibility over these atrocities - actually, Ho is the President of North Vietnam and nothing can be conducted without his approval/order.
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>Shouldn't we be progressed past this fucking point already?

Yes.
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>>69831092
Everyone is defacto a slave under an authoritarian socialist society.
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>>69831195
we must secure a future for white Brazilian children and Brazilian nationalism as a whole
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>People hate capitalism for whatever reason

>their solution is to give the powers of the economy from people they can choose not to endorse and make go out of business to people who will permanently always be in business, no matter the quality

BRILLIANT

Capitalism puts the most power into the people's hands
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>>69831053
Ehh supply and demand aren't a great metric, people demand a lot of terrible/stupid/destructive shit and the pricing assumes people are
A) perfectly rational
B) can determine long term consequences well
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>>69831341
>we must secure a future for white Brazilian children
Yeah, all 6 of them.
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>>69830539

Hey you just mentioned China a communist nation. Let's see how much the average Chinese makes.

The average annual salary is equal to $4,755

China also funny enough has the most billionaires in the world right after the USA.

As you can see communism sure is good at distributing the wealth evenly!

But hey let's look at Vietnam.

It is a socialist-oriented market economy. It became a market economy to survive.

Again, only way for socialism to have any measure of success is from the fruits of capitalism and through capitalism.

Basically every single positive that you can point out about any socialist regime ultimately can be traced to capitalism and the products of capitalism. Funny enough this is also why capitalism simply dominates all of the world.

Oh and you've also not explained why any of what I posted from statistics to historical examples are wrong and the like.

Can you show any examples of socialism relieving poverty more than the miracle of chile?
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>>69831433
your damn right

those six can go on to breed on more
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>>69825107
>Why the fuck do we base our lives around a corrupt system that has put billions of people in poverty, sustains racism and is killing the entire fucking planet?
and how exactly is this a bad thing?
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>>69831161
>Ignores the mass amount of people Pinochet, and other third world U.S supported dictators, killed and tortured.

>>69831311
>Everyone is defacto a slave under an authoritarian socialist society.

In 1970's china you could drag party leaders out to criticism sessions and replace them, that doesn't sound like slavery to me. In most states in the U.S you can get fired just because the boss doesn't like your face.
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fuck off gommie
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>>69831692
In an authoritarian socialist society, the government owns the means of production making the workers all wage slaves to the government.
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>>69831457
China went full capitalist after Mao died. if you don't have the brain capacity to differentiate between labels and content, you should go back to grade school.

>It is a socialist-oriented market economy. It became a market economy to survive.
this claim requires sauce
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>>69830924

Again, hard work and smart work. If you aren't smart enough you won't get anything.


There is only ONE way to raise equality in any real and meaningful and lasting way. This way is eugenics. You improve the quality of human's in general and they themselves will improve their own positions.
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I know this is bait but here is a story.

I met a dude from Bosnia who told my that one day, everyone is shooting at each other. After the peace accords they were all together in the marketplace buying things from each other.

Im not some Randian faggot but there is something to be said for the power of capitalism to overcome differences of race, ethnicity, and so forth. People want to make money off each other. They dont care if niggers or fags or wahtever buys the product.


So in that way, capitalism is the system that best promotes equality.
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>>69831854
In a socialist society the means of production are collectively owned by the laborers.
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>>69831859
Eugenics would just give make smarter people do the same menial jobs the dumb used to do. if anything this would lead to a revolution.
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>>69831855
>China went full capitalist after Mao died. if you don't have the brain capacity to differentiate between labels and content, you should go back to grade school.

But this has happened in every single communist regime, hell look at the Soviet Union.

As for sauce on Vietnam being a market economy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Vietnam

http://www.heritage.org/index/country/vietnam

http://www.vietrade.gov.vn/en/index.php?option=com_content&id=759&Itemid=76
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>>69832009
I said "authoritarian socialist" for a reason m8.
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>>69831692
>Ignores the fact I never mentioned them and was addressing something you put forth
>Also tries to justify death with more death from another source

You mentioned Vietnam. Let's keep it in Vietnam, unless you don't have anything to justify the deaths HCM (who you praised for avoiding famine) caused.
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>>69832200

How so?

All you are doing is applying selective breeding which is decided through scientific methods in order to create better men.
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>put billions of people into poverty
No, they were born that way.

Capitalism has made it so that instead of dying of dysentery at 11, they work in dismal factories instead.
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>>69825107
You have no idea how much worse it can be.
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>>69825107
Because I'm white and it works for me.
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>>69825107
Actually capitalism brought billions of people out of poverty. There are still people living in poverty simply because the industrial revolution only happened 100 years ago and not a 1000.
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>>69832652
I'd also like to take moment to point out that capitalism does more to end racism than affirmative action.

If I'm a business owner. I want to higher the people that will save me money. It's that simple really.

Affirmative action holds different groups of people at different standards. Humans are naturally lazy and will typically only meet the requirement. Affirmative action only reinforces the "lazy black people" stereotype
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>>69825107
Well, put up a new economic system that's better besides a pure free trade society with incredibly small government
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>>69832652
>>69832856
>and killing the entire planet

Well this is true in some respects but we are starting to move past it. Not to mention that burning wood is much worse for the environment than burning coal is. There's no way on a technology scale we could have gone
>wood
>nuclear
>solar

Since steam power never became a reasonable technology until the discovered oil/coal fossil fuels.

Now rotating turbines is the main purpose of using nuclear sources as well as geothermal.

Yea there's a bunch of plastic but we will clean it up shortly. Since our capitalist system promotes new technology all the time
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>>69825107
People were poor well before capitalism.

If anything capitalism is the reason as many people aren't poor. Regulated capitalism anyways.
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>>69825107
>I hate a system responsible for all modern innovations I am benefiting from right now
Faggot, stop shitposting go back to tweeting #StopCapitalism while sipping on starbucks
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Hey look, literally nothing to combat the proven efficiency and record of capitalism and market economics.

Hey look, nothing to show that communism is ever actually good.

Yes people want another system, something different because "different is better" in the mind of the overly sexualized mind of the xenophile youth.

It is a shame but this is the fruit of liberal capitalism also.

If we implemented nationalist capitalism such beliefs wouldn't be tolerated and would never have time to grow.
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>>69825107
A system that doesn't result in slavery doesn't exist. It was good at the beginning when there was mobility.
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