>Family friend was a guy who served in the Luftwaffe
>He won almost every battle he fought
>Up until his death he maintained that the only reason Germany lost WWII was Hitler
Was the Führer really all he was cracked up to be, /pol/?
>>69806634
blaming hitler is retarded. high command made the final orders on most things anyway. its like blaming the president for everything wrong in america.
>>69806866
you didn't build that
>>69806866
>Hitler didn't override his high command all the time
>>69806866
The high command was only at the beginning in charge. When Hitler took over, it all went downwards.
Hitler actually had not a single great idea or plan. All good schmes were started before he came to power (re-armenment was started in the mid-1920, Autobahn in 1928)
>le hitler was militarily retarded meme
literally just a meme invented by the history channel
high command called the shots and they very, very rarely made mistakes
>>69807285
build what faggot. you can assume im in love with nazi germany because of my comment. doesnt mean its true.
>>69808376
>literally just a meme invented by the history channel
>high command called the shots and they very, very rarely made mistakes
this^^
>>69807826
>>69808197
>>69808376
This is so wrong. Hitler repeatedly intervened when it was about retreating from undefensible positions, bombing for propagandistic instead of military effect...
The list of bad decisions by himself directly is extremely long. And that's not something from a TV show, but what I learnt at the Military History Research Office of the Bundeswehr. That's where the conclusions from WW2 were drawn for future conflicts, so it was not about ideology but facts.
But I'm sure you can challange 13,000 pages of history by some anecdotal evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_and_the_Second_World_War
This is their main work
>>69808376
He was a failed painter corporal. It was literally impossible for him to properly personally comand a modern army. This really requires decades of specialist education and expirience, no way around it. It's like wanting a nurse to perform a brain surgery. The problem with the third reich was the occult demented cultish my-God-given-Fuhrer-of-the-Aryan-race-from-Thule mindset. This gave Hitler the right to override every military decision which he often did and it always ended in disaster. Why do you think the military wanted to kill him in 1944?
>>69808992
Yeah ... what you learned ... about Hitler ... in Nu-Germany. Tell us again how "rights" are something the government grants to the people for good behavior ...
>>69809401
That's right, Kraut, you should have used 4chan memes and merchant pics for genuine knowledge not peer reviewed military science university generated material.
don't let the kikes decieve you with "facts"
14/88
I was surprised to read in Heinz Guderian's autobiography on the birth of the blitzkrieg just how infested high command was with old prussians and aristocratic types determined to fight battles the world war 1 way.
>>69808992
>wikipedia
good goy! ... you truly dug out the deepest most fundamental ww2 lore possible, huh?
>>69809401
You are a fucking idiot. I personally talked to one of the later authors, used their sources to write my own paper on a certain operation and reviewed most of the international publications on it at that time.
Your knowledge of my country is so laughable, that your inconsistent argument is not even the worst part of your posting.
>>69806634
Germany was never capable of defeating the Soviets due to the disparity of industrial and economic power.
Much like for Japan, the war was lost when it was begun.
>>69809928
It`s a link to a wiki page about the book he is talking about you retarded cunt
>>69809928
You are unable to read, aren't you? The link is just to the short article on the major 13 part work "Das Deutsche Reich und der Zweite Weltkrieg/Germany and the Second World War" published by the MGFA. The article is not the source.
>>69806634
Never happened Jude unlike your favourite Rebbe fingering your greedy bumhole on high holy days.
>>69809928
Moron, it's a wiki entry about the book. It took them 30 years to write the fucking book
>>69810161
Not true, Hitler completely underestimated Soviet Total War industrial capacity. Germany was still functioning normally right up until 1942. If he had got his shit into gear and operated under a Total War setting like Stalin did from day one the Soviets would have been fucked. Similarly so would Britain
>>69809401
Germany does not exist. There was no civil capitulation. The formally held sovereign known as Germany is a territory occupied by a military corporation impressing the overarching NSverbotgesetz laws. Hence the occupying authority's military bases filled with foreign troops in possession of nuclear weapons which is wholly contrary to the occupied natives best interest. The GDR, the 3rd declaration of Reich is the rightful government in exile.
>>69810496
No Japan, we are supposed to be good guys now
The Juden must not know
>>69810154
You are a Jew/Jewdling and there is no Germany.
>>69810161
The Soviets were lost with out Amerikan assistance. Totally lost. There should be a statue of The Leader in every western European capital because he saved them from an onslaught.
>>69810883
>The GDR, the 3rd declaration of Reich is the rightful government in exile.
I lost it there. Youe are a funny guy
>>69811584
What did you study btw? History? or are you in the army?
>>69811723
I was in the air force. Military history is mandatory for (reserve) officer candidates.
>>69811723
He studied the Rebbe's shmutsi penis. It was all oral exams. Glug glug glug.
>>69812046
Any contact with the military now? What do the officers make of the current crisis? I was kinda amazed the Bundeswehr didn't say anything except turning barracks into refugee centers
>>69812046
My grand-pere was in the 33rd div. Charlemagne and you are pinging Jewdars die Welt over. Tov shebbe Judische harog.
>>69806866
This is the most retarded statement I've heard in a while
>>69812046
Na du faules Stück scheiße? Ist dein Cuckkörper zu fein fürs Heer? Hurensohn
>>69808197
the real reason axis lost, italy in africa.
>>69812206
>Any contact with the military now?
Only when he brings shvartzer servicemen home to bang his slag Rebbitzin whilst he snaps pics and fluffs the bull.
>>69812458
Unfortunately your nativist corps are to be utilised like the Australians at Gallipoli. Politically expedient bullet catchers.
>>69812206
Members of the military aren't allowed to comment on politics in their role as soldiersa, only as private citizens, so you don't really see them there.
And the high command would never publicly criticise their doubts, as is the case in any hierachal structure.
From what I hear privately, their views are roughly the same as their age, heritage and home state would suggest. (More easterners, more russians than turks etc). So closer to AfD, FDP and nearly no leftist. Officers try a bit more to find the strategy behind and aren't as critical as lower ranks, though.
It's literally impossible - to win war against the whole world.
And shItaly, of course.
>>69812458
Deine Eloquenz ist beeindruckend. Keine Ahnung warum ich nicht bei euch Heeresmuckeln dienen wollte. Gut, könnte damit zu tun haben, dass ich wusste was ich studieren will, und das Heer keine Jets hat, aber das wäre ja abwegig.
Du musst wohl echt eine Menge kompensieren.
>>69812458
>Heer, totally not full of turks and gays cuddling together in the foxholes
>>69808992
Hans is right, the high command came up with the majority of strategies for each operation, but every time Hitler demanded something that went against the pleas of the generals, things went disastrously wrong. Case in point , Stalingrad, which was pretty the turning point of the war for Germany. Anyone denying has never read a single book on wwii and is just citing obscure revisionist history from the internet
>>69810154
Don't listen to them Germbruh, you arguing with stormfags
>>69813898
Stalingrad wasn't Hitlers fault
>>69813660
Little known fact: in the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth gay sex was called "Turkish love"
>>69814218
They would have lost regardless but the fact that they stayed until everyone either died or was captured is what dug them an early grave, because of Hitler
>>69814218
It was. The commanding general realised earlier that he could not take the city and that his flanks were too weak. When he asked to be allowed to retreat and consolidate his forces, Hitler denied.
Trying to take Stalingrad wasn't the mistake, holding on to the plan when it had failed was.
>>69814130
Fee Fi Fo Fum I smell gefilte and two day old tsholnt!
Run and polish the blech so mum can properly wank those pricks at the gloryhole!
>>69813660
only russians and east germans desu
>>69814511
Why are nips so fucking weird
>>69814693
Au revoir Juif....you simply will not be missed.
>>69814218
He contributed to the massive losses by not allowing Paulus to retreat whe he still could. He often did that and the Germans lost a lot of troops needlessly with his "not a step back" policy. When the enemy is close to encircling you getting outta there while you still can is often a good idea instaed of getting cut off and slowly eliminated y'know. Military vehicles have wheels for a reason.
>>69814693
You should have bombed them into stone age.
Those chinks are subhumans.
>>69814853
Cry more zhidovski svinya.
>>69814963
shamefur dispray
it's time to commit sudoku.
>>69814218
It was our fault
>>69814511
>>69814768
>>69814963
>>69815390
> Never trust a Finn
wasnt hitlers idea to encircle caucasus first by capturing staliningrad instead of a direct assault?
>>69815602
wat
>>69815131
A brilliantly flaccid member of the illiterati are you! Poor Jewdy your time of shine is about to pass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=JP&v=OEyJVTJ3KEs&hl=ja
>>69815890
I bet you are a Jew. Go back to Israel JIDF
>>69809064
>This
He was basically a genius politician and propagandist (you can still see it by all the Stormtards becoming mad when you dare to criticize him) but leading an army of this power asks totally different skills.
>>69815995
You are definitely your mum's son Shmuelly...but so are all Jewcucks.
>>69816070
You love Hezbollah on formerly frum Jewess cuck porn. Oy vey ist mir!
>>69816406
Go to sleep Yoyne, we all know you are a chasidic Jew shitposter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B-X7ox8LBg
>>69806634
hitler wasnt the same man he was in '39. most /pol/ fags dont know shit about history, you'd get better results asking tumblr.
most of these cunts don't understand the difference between socialism and communism, or liberalism and anarchism, let alone, conservatism and fascism.
>>69816616
Bolek up your ass Leba Kohn.
Hitler was a cultural icon. He provided the German people with the ideology that made fascism successful.
However, that success also relied on the real command of the country... which whenever Hitler overruled just fucked things up
>>69816869
Holy shit I have been found out. The Jews should fear the Samurai
>>69816953
They were anti-fascist. You attended public skrewling.
>>69817042
I obtained the media scrapbook of an elite member of Polen's government in exile. Only cost me 15K Euro. You clean out post Shabbat crockpots with your bovine tongue.
