Should Christian pastors and churches be allowed to discriminate against gay couples seeking their legal right to marriage?
They have a legal right to marriage, not a religious right.
>>69798864
And where is the law saying you have a legal right to use religion to oppress others?
No.
Those Christians are guilty of high heresy against the Church of Social Justice, they should be thrown into the gulag.
>>69798779
Yes. Gay people have equality before the law, they don't have the right to compel private individuals or institutions into contracts, particularly not contracts involving religious ceremonies.
>>69798943
And where is the law saying you can force people to do things against their will?
>>69798964
>mfw there are actually people like this
>>69798779
I think so. You can always go get legally married at the courthouse.
>>69799208
You don't have a right to discriminate, especially against gay people who are the most oppressed group. We need to give some groups special rights to make up for past injustices
>>69798779
You don't have the right to control how people practice their religion, you dumb faggot.
This is the reason why you lot should be killed, weakass christians is not doing their duty so muslims must come and clean up our mess. I hope to see the day that you guys are executed here as well.
>>69799326
>You don't have a right to discriminate
Yes you fucking do, asshole. Everybody does.
I suggest you suck my fucking dick, and if you refuse then you're discriminating against and oppressing me and you should be thrown in a reeducation camp.
If people truly believed in separating church and state, they'd allow people to refuse service on religious grounds.
The liberals harping on about church/state don't realize it's a two way street. If you want religion out of government, you can't stomp on religious rights too.
>>69798779
Christ I can't even tell if this is real or not.
>>69798779
Why should I care about protestant shit?
>>69798779
Yes, they should. It's especially stupid considering the fact that you KNOW that if a gay couple went to a Muslim rabbi, or whatever their title is, and tried to get a marriage and were denied, the government would defend the muslim and the gay couple would go elsewhere. Fuck this administration
>>69799861
Catholics too. Also Catholics should be forbidden to refuse to place orphans with gay couples.
Sorry but your religion belongs in your head, especially when it comes to things that matte like gay rights.
>>69798779
>that image
Pls tell me that's fake
>>69800206
Fags shouldn't be married in a Catholic Church, that is sacrilegious and heresy. Fuck you for trying to force your will on the Church.
>>69800402
Why does the church have the right to say what is wrong and not? They get a massive tax break and if they won't do what the government says they should be taxed to Fuck and back until they comply.
>>69799861
Because whether you believe in Jesus or not, his religion is all that's keeping you safe from a life time of beheadings and Sharia law.
>>69798779
>MUH RULIJUN
Why are Americhrists so religious? I never understand this.
Should the government even have its hand in marriage?
>>69798864
>>69798943
They don't subscribe to the religion and the religion doesn't subscribe to their way of life.
Any faggots who want religious marriage are overstepping just as much as religions trying to stop faggots from a civil marriage.
>>69798779
Until the church pays taxes, I have no right as a taxpayer to impose my will upon them. As long as they dont hurt anyone, its not oppression.
They have the legal right, but we cant force our views on a church with its own views.
>>69800508
>he doesnt remember why the church is not allowed to be taxed
I bet you complain about corporate influence in politics too.
>>69800508
>Why does the church have the right to say what is wrong and not?
Because that's where most of the morals are from.
>They get a massive tax break and if they won't do what the government says they should be taxed to Fuck and back until they comply.
That's actually discrimination, and trying to force the will of the state on the Holy See. This isn't Orthodox, the state has no right interfering with the politics in my religion.
>>69801193
Churches should be taxed but they need to keep their beliefs and opinions inside the church.
Personally I wish we could destroy every Christian church and use education centers to eradicate people enslaved by religion but until the SC rules Christianity a dangerous cult we can't do anything about their delusions.
>>69798779
I knew this would happen. Slippery slope my ass.
>>69801333
Wow, you're a fucking nutcase
>>69801333
Well if you tax them it dissolves the separation of church and state yah ding-bat! Then they have the right to impose their values on you!
>>69798943
Denying marriage is not opression since the separation of Church and State already happened.
>>69798779
>"No one wants to force Christians to marry gays you guys, the gay marriage movement is about love not whatever slippery slope you're imagining :^)"
>>69801445
Lol not enough of them now.
People with no religious beliefs are the majority in 5 states and in 19 states white Christians are a minority.
Pretty soon their numbers will be low enough that the rest of society can ignore them and do what we like whether they like it or not http://www.alternet.org/belief/white-christian-america-decline-why-young-people-are-sick-conservative-religion
>>69798779
Everyone has the right to discriminate, you dipshit.
How would you like it if the government forbade you discriminating against homophobes?
>>69798779
Gays have no rights in religion, God forbid people of the same sex to marry and have sexual intercourse.
>>69798779
Well yeah. The government shouldn't be able to kick in the church door and make the priest marry two homosex people.
>>69801764
hahaha wow nice meme friend
The'y may not stop the "progress" you want but the'll certainly slow it. But who cares? Why do you care so much what they do behind their doors? Whos oppressing who? They believe what they believe, you do you.
>>69801764
Stop acting retarded?
>>69801809
Discriminating against those who are intolerant is an example of tolerance defending itself, even with violence, against people whose opinions disorder society.
You have no right to disturb the peace so why should you have a right to use the worthless bible to discriminate or hurt others feelings?
>>69801764
I missed the part where it became ok to tax them?
>>69798779
Yes they should force a church to perform the ceremony because it's open to the public
And if any state disagrees they should have all the business moved
>>69798864
Freedom of religion.
>>69801978
If someone slows progress they should be re taught or removed. Maybe Christians should lose their right to vote if they hold discriminatory views.
>>69802085
>actually supporting the Church and State to be bedded
Degenerate.
>>69798779
Yes because there has always been a distinction between religious and civil marriage. You know, the reason that even if you're getting married by the Archbishop you still have to fill out gubmint paperwork? Why you're just as married going to the justice of the peace vs. having a church wedding?
Gay people should be able to marry in the eyes of the government i.e. civil marriage but to force religious marriage to be an option for them is wrong.
>>69802145
Right, we need the state but humanity doesn't really need God or other silly bullshit
>>69802092
Who defines progress? Maybe I define progress as gassing kikes. If you stop me from doing that you're horrible, you're against progressiveness!
Get a life dude this is a non-issue. Gay marriage is against the christian doctrine. Its not against the doctrine of the law, where it matters, so whats the issue?
>>69798779
Because this is not a life or death issue and there are alternative options to get married, yes, they should be able to refuse. Only medical treatment and medications should be protected.
Let's put it this way, if a pastor does not want to marry you, does not feel comfortable marrying you, what reason do you have to force him other than to be a dick?
>>69800233
>>69799766
>mad magazine
Underage kids please exit.
>>69800508
>Why does the church have the right to say what is wrong and not?
Everybody has the right to say what's wrong or not, and everybody has the freedom to choose to who to listen to about what's wrong or not.
>says they should be taxed to Fuck and back until they comply.
Do it, faggot. Tax the churches and then when we claim No Taxation Without Representation and form a Christian SuperPAC, win every election, and make it illegal to be a faggot at all, you'll have only yourself to blame.
>>69800402
If a priest actually tried to allow this I'd actually make sure they never get into the church.
I'm not one to protest or even care but no way would this be allowed to happen
>>69802234
Because Christians are refusing to obey the law. No one gets to do that and we should make an example out of them, a few more wackos if that is what he takes.
I fucking hate Christians and would gladly support their eradication. Muslims are ok.
>>69798943
Where's the law saying you can't?
Oh yeah, there isn't one
>>69802320
If a priest even made an attempt, his ass would be kicked out.
>>69802023
Poor b8 m8
>>69798779
Either this guy is from reddit or /lgbt/ but I repeat myself
>>69802218
>humanity doesn't really need God or other silly bullshit
Such pride for a dumbass.
>>69802388
The law is state marriage, not marriage as defined by the church. Legal marriage is the conglomeration of assets, in the church its the conglomeration of souls.
Dude seriously be "le trolling XD"
>>69802023
>against people whose opinions disorder society.
Sieg Heil, Anon.
We need purity of belief.
>>69802388
>Muslims are ok
Go get beheaded then.
>>69802482
God is a myth and you are stupid if you believe in magic. It's 2016, do you honestly believe in miracles?
>>69802914
Do you have a waifu?
>>69801764
LIke most SJWs you believe non-whites to be all atheists. There are more atheists among whites than any other group.
Also, atheists don't last long as a demographic group - when they even appear as one. They have cats instead of children. Every once in awhile they adopt a black kid or something, but they don't have progeny and are usually NEETs.
you have a legal right to a wedding not a legal right to a Christian wedding
besides if you are a christian helmet chaser you can almost certainly find some protestant sect willing to marry you off to your manfriend
>>69798779
>what is civil marriage
>>69802085
Churches are private property, genius.
>gay hulk
>>69802282
you completely miss the point, jew
>>69802023
>>>>>>>>>>>tolerance for thee but not for me, filthy goy ehehehehehe
>>69802085
>>69802218
You are the scum of this earth you need to be purged
>>69802280
The same reason they have to force Christians to make gay wedding cakes and such. Just being dicks. Gay dicks.
But really, doesn't it speak to the character of Christians that anyone would force them to make food? What person or group in the world would you want to prepare food for you against their will? They're likely to shit, puke, piss, and cum in the batter, and serve it to you with a smiling face.
>>69803062
So are bakeries but you are legally required to make a cake for a gay couple. Churches are open to the public and receive public utilities. If they want to meet in the woods and have no power or sewer services I am fine with them not having gay weddings but once you accept city services you have an obligation to follow any I discrimination laws.
Yes, if businesses can't discriminate based on beliefs the government shouldn't allow a whole institution to be held against their beliefs by their own will
>>69803062
so are cake shops but it didn't stop oregon's gestapo from going full '4th Reich gas the Christians, cake war now'
>>69803268
>So are bakeries but you are legally required to make a cake for a gay couple
No they aren't gays just try to sue them and most of the fucking time it fails.
>>69803268
>but once you accept city services you have an obligation to follow any I discrimination laws.
let me fuck your son or i'm suing you for antigay discrimination
>>69803268
By this logic the local fag metrosexual alliance that you are apart of should let me in to shit talk them
fuck discrimination am I right?
>>69802388
>No one gets to do that
ToP KeK go try to get married with your boyfriend in a Muslim temple.
>>69803432
No because your unacceptable language would violate their right to pursuit of happines, which is a guaranteed right
Basically your views are now harmful and need to be removed. You can be free to believe what you like but shouldn't be able to act or practice it.
>>69798779
Fags are degenerates. There is no right to same-sex marriage. The supreme court conjured it out of their asses.
>>69798779
Seperation of church and state
>>69800508
Wow, you're actually retarded.
Congratulations.
>>69803268
What person would force someone to make their food for them against their will? A piece of shit excuse for a human being, that's what. If that's what you support, then your morality is literally made of shit. And no one has 'forced' any Christian to make a cake against their will. There have just been some lawsuits brought by shit-tier LGBTBBQ activists.
You're wrong that if you 'accept city services' you don't have private property. That is simply retarded.
>>69803586
>violate the pursuit of happiness
Then anti gun laws are bullshit because guns make me happy
But back to fags and religion doesn't your attempt to remove christian churches violate their pursuit of happiness
>>69798779
Noone should be "allowed" to pretend to "allow" or not allow it.
>>69798779
Yes, pandering to the mentally ill is disgusting. Furthermore all fags should be gassed
>>69802914
It's the current year and you're not believing in the Holy Father?
Fuckin' pleb
>>69802388
The more I read, the more I hate you. Good job.
You do realize that Muslims actually actively kill gays? Christians don't do that.
Why don't you just drop dead? The world doesn't need idiots like you.
>>69804046
Muslims have a culture and are an oppressed minority where as Christians are an oppressive evil group and largely responsible for all the persecution you see today.
Most Christians are backward a red neck trailer trash.
>>69804199
Ok now I know your just here to trigger us
>>69804199
Are you trying to piss people off?
>>69804324
Of course he is
>>69804380
I can't believe it.
>>69803221
Yeah, that's what I don't get. The left applauds these people for standing up to their oppressors. Nearly all of my friends are liberal and it's so frustrating to watch them. They're bullies who applaud bullies.
What's a person to do when he's too liberal to associate with the right, but too conservative to not get escape the witch hunt of the left? Everything feels so stratified, like there are no middle-ground people left.
>>69798779
no
religious people are stupid cattle, they have no rights
you're lucky atheists aren't in larger numbers yet
>>69798943
It's not oppression it's following the rules of the religion. You agree to the rules when you join the club. If they want to get married in a church they can go make some gay religion and do it there
>>69804932
They never will, a stronger religion will take the place of Christianism. If I was you I would be afraid, Atheists don't get special treatment, they are actually treated worst than christians in other cultures.
Would Gay Hulk be a top or bottom?
Sage bait threads. Reported and filtered.
http://i.imgur.com/R9P8pBT.gif
>>69798779
Yes, the church is not the state. If the church doesn't want to hold the ceremony for two fags then they shouldn't be forced to do so.
t.faggot
>>69798779
Kind of funny how satire from 20 years ago is becoming reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLcrpGxFG3k
