https://www.rt.com/usa/338237-trump-fine-nato-breakup-obsolete/
The Donald wants to breakup NATO
wat do pol?
>>69796541
let him, its outdated and costs too much
>the you will live in an isolationist America
My body is ready
>>69796541
He doesn't necessarily want to break it uo he wants to change to and update it, also make it so the USA isnt paying or responding to all the shit, back then the USA was rich and powerful now it's going full third world status, this is why Trump wants the USA to be less involved with what is happening go bally and only focus in the USA and fixing it.
>>69796541
How can one man be so based?
>>69796807
Seriously, It's about time.
>>69796541
Its a great idea; NATO should have been re-purposed to recolonize the middle east.
Good. the cold war ended a long time ago - we don't need to keep pretending anymore.
>mfw I no longer have to pay for Team America: World Police under a Trump presidency.
>>69796807
There is literally nothing wrong with being isolationist. MAGA
That reinvestment in infrastructure once the NATO parasite is removed. Cant wait.
>>69796541
>yurop lets turkey become eu/nato
>yurop can't stand on its two feet
>yurop disregards the binding associations with Egypt/Israel
>yurop accepts all sandnigger immigrants making them protected under nato
NATO is worthless for the US
>>69796541
Is it possible that this is all just a part of the ongoing white genocide plan? I want the Europeans to defend themselves, but if we just up and leave them it might be a disaster, and open the door to the ethnic cleansing of Europe while brainwashed Americans cheer "they deserve it for not loving freedom!" and throw their brothers under the bus.
>>69797035
Are you retarded?
>>69797124>>69797124
>NATO parasite is removed. Cant wait.
yeah me too, also don't forget to get your bases, soldiers and nuclear warheads out of our country
>>69796807
Isn't this sort of what George Washington wanted anyways?
>>69797272
They do deserve it. Why the fuck have they spent literally nothing on military while the US pays for everything and we Americans suffer? They threw us under the bus first, and now they suffer when we get tired of being the bodyguard. It's their fault for openly letting in the mussies.
>tfw you will no longer deliver your fresh cum to Yuropoors
>>69797419
pretty much yes
>>69797365
Gladly, have fun defending your own borders.
You guys do realize that America is the sole super power in the world and benefits from having a naval presence of major trade routes. Not only that having like 300 bases around the world.
You literally cannot just up and leave. Foreign policies are mainly based on external factors, president can only do so much.
Trump really can't do that much. You guy are starting to sound as retarded a Bernie supporters. Or fuck off Putinbots
>>69797419
washington only wanted hamilton's sweet tight boipu$$y
>>69797440
>why have they spent nothing?
Because we're controlled by imperialist kikes and we won't allow the Germans to have an actual military! Nor would the same people allow the Europeans to have any real self-determination. That's why they don't fund their own defense.
>>69797419
Yes.
Trump is right though. In 2014, The total expenditure for all member nations of NATO was $924 billion. Of that, America contributed $610 billion. It has only gone up since then. If America were to cut its spending by 500 billion, not only would we still be contributing more than the next three countries, but would have solved our National budget deficit.
>>69796541
>wat do pol?
Thank god. While the Islamic states of Europe are battling out America can live in harmony.
>>69797683
it will be a start
>>69797365
That sounds lovely
He won't be able to. NATO is a strategic counterbalance and thinly veiled euphemism for "US Military."
Both a breakup of NATO and the EU is in favor of Russian interests.
Then again, the shills on this site working from St. Petersburg already know that.
>>69796541
You know, I'm starting to like Trump. I hope he changes his mind about Israel and doesn't go full jew's bitch if elected.
>>69801138
maybe it will be good for both the usa and russia
Can a president do that?
I dont think he can do that.
Why aren't these countries paying the Nato fees? It's like 2% of GDP and 23 out of 25 of them aren't paying, I heard.
>>69802499
it would be wasted money
>>69797365
No problem!
>>69797683
Our major trade routes are Asian now.
Europe is just an abandoned museum we have some sentimental ties to.
>>69801501
He wants to reform it.
>>69796807
Isolationism will cost us our position as the strongest super power.
>>69796541
Fuck the euros.
>>69796807
Isolationism is idiotic, to say the least.
wojak = trump
pepe = lithuania
hes right
NATO became obsolete following the collapse of the USSR, we should scrap it and then form regional defence pacts as and when they become necessary
>>69804113
We have the Air Force, we still have carriers, as well as missiles, etc. we just don't need that many military bases anymore. If European countries don't wanna contribute to their own defense, they're not worth saving.
>>69804285
OH yeah, you get to be a satellite state of Russia again. Oh joy! That will be fun.
>>69796541
Even if he becomes president and actually wants to do this instead of just making empty campaign promises, he would have zero power to make it happen.
Anything like that is a matter for Congress to decide, not the Executive branch.
>>69796541
did you get your check from the kremlin?
>>69796541
Get out of the UN 1st
![1422835371_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4bg5fc1.jpg "1422835371_1[1].jpg")
>Turkey is a NATO member
yeah, the moment Trump disbands NATO T*rkey gets glassed.
>>69802499
Because they hate America and want America to pay for their military protection.
>>69804580
And that's a bad thing how?
>>69804490
it's funny that the minimum wage in a second-world shithole like Lithuania is higher than the average wage of a russian
>>69804580
yeah it will be glorious
>>69796541
NATO only helps 3 world shitters. I'm glad he wants to leave it. wtf has NATO ever done to help usa? I mean fuck we pay for it all anyway.
Good thing Trump won't get elected and you amerilards will enjoy 8 years of female white Obama in office.
![BravoC1024c10[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fccjsrM.jpg "BravoC1024c10[1].jpg")
>>69804663
>And that's a bad thing how?
It's not.
>>69796541
no, he wants to renegotiate so the united states doesn't keep getting fucked in the ass by the lesser, weaker countries
>>69804580
exactly
how can we fight the roaches if we are allied with them
>>69804769
El PeruANO.
>>69804297
what you're describing is the pre-WWII European security order which didn't exactly have a successful track record
NATO collective security has created one of the most stable periods in European history since the Roman Empire
>>69804769
it's not that, we'll be stuck with hillary because we don't have honest elections and haven't for a long time; they like to go back and forth so only half the country is pissed at a time but with trump in the mix it'll be a lot harder to do so they'll let hillary have four years as spokes-puppet and then see what happens, presidential politics is a farce
>>69796541
its like he wants to be assassinated
absolute madman
>>69804799
He wants to REJIGGER it so we don't pay to defend europe.
>>69804565
i don't know what you're talking about
>>69804769
This.
You're next president will be a female.
This is the price you pay for tolerance of extreme left wing values and your liberal, safe-space college campus mindset.
Shame on you, USA.
>>69804906
How is that our problem.
>>69796541
NATO A SHIT
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT!
>>69796541
You can't push for greater military spending in Europe if the ungrateful Yuropoors still believe USA will keep footing the bill. Threats have to be credible to be taken seriously.
Trump won't actually disband NATO.
He is making threats so the Yuropeons increase their military spending.
>>69805052
>pay to defend Europe
Is this the latest meme? You guys spending money on your Military Complex is done only for your own interests. You aren't defending anyone.
>>69796541
fuck nato.
>>69805175
You'd better hope Carlos, because your country is smack bang in NATO's sights right now.
>>69804693
Don't doubt it. Eastern Europe needs NATO though, but they also need to step up their budgets to match the required 1.5 percent. Countries in Europe need to stop being worthless.
that' would basically mean ww3
>>69797304
Are you? You guys elected a drama teacher btw.
>>69805108
He knows Avi...
>>69797272
It's the other way around. Once Europeans are forced to actually defend themselves and re-develop a militaristic culture... they will change.
This war is not fought with armies but through culture and opinions.
Europe could have stopped the invasion with couple of hundreds of soldiers, and guts to do what is needed. But all the planes and tanks in the world won't do a thing to stop Europe from capitulating.
>>69797790
>Because we're controlled by imperialist kikes and we won't allow the Germans to have an actual military!
That's bullshit, in fact, Germany did have a pretty strong military just a few decades back. They could have easily re-militarized and changed their laws, just look at Japan who did just that.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33532557
You're just giving excuses for why cucks are cucks. Germany is just one country, what about Norway, Sweden, Denmark, UK, Spain, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Switzerland (though on a smaller scale), Finland, Austria, Italy and whomever more I've forgotten on the way
Not to mention US and Canada themselves.
Only uncucked western country is Australia. The only country to close its borders.
But keep dinduing and no surprise you'll end up failing like the niggers you are.
>>69796541
>The Donald wants to breakup NATO
Glorious. I hope this paves the way for a future United States-Russia alliance.
>>69797440
>Why the fuck have they spent literally nothing on military
Y'know all those socialist programs and free shit commies talking about? Guess where all that money that would otherwise be spent on their own military go?
>>69805302
Huh? We are Major Non-NATO Allies of the USA with troops serving in Bosnia.
Nobody cares about your islands, get over yourselves.
>>69805279
uh huh
hope you enjoy life behind that iron curtain spaghettio because russia would really love to have you!
It will be interesting to see how the model socialist Scandinavian countries are able to continue to pay for their socialist utopias when they will also have to start paying the full bill for their defense rather than depending on the US to do it for them.
>>69796541
I'd be happy to see it transformed into a S.H.I.E.L.D.-like organisation.
>>69805279
well, that's true; we're a defacto fucking empire
>>69797683
You sound worried that you would have to kill your enemies at some point.
>>69796541
Good, NATO is fucking retarded and probably did more damage during the cold war than good.
>>69805316
What do you mean?
The Baltic are the only NATO members besides USA that actually comply to the "no less than 2% of GDP for defense" clause.
>>69804906
... I don't know, they managed to repel the moors and reconquer Spain and S.France.
They managed to retake Malta and Sicily.
Managed to repel the Ottomans multiple times, finally dissolving their empire and driving them all the way back to the Bosporus.
Managed to conquer half the world.
Sure they had many wars, but no risk of going instinct and bred into a mixed slave race.
>>69805424
>Glorious. I hope this paves the way for a future United States-Russia alliance.
Very glorious
>The Don potentially starting a small crisis in Europe regarding our defenses
.....Perfectly OK with this. In fact, we need it. Bring it.
>>69805735
USA Russian union, Russian balls and strength, with USA order and economy.
>TRUMP WATNS TO START WWIII
>t. liberals
>He literally want to dismantle NATO
>>69801138
>restructure NATO to include Russia (which they wanted in after the wall came down)
>NATO now represent USA/Russian interests
>interests include removing kebab
Europe is currently being invaded by third-world hordes and NATO has done nothing, what use does it have?
>>69805397
based jew bro
we own this board
goyim simply can't compete!
>>69805847
USA and Russia should be one state, with Russia we are unstoppable in the entire world.
France and the UK would likely be the less hurt by these measures since we haven't completely delegated our defense to our american overlord.
Can't wait for germany to be forced to sink billions in defense budget to play catch up with other relevant countries.
>>69805954
I have auto hide on all kike posts, the Führer banished them.
>>69806046
>Germany will suddenly have to choose between refugees and defence
Bueno
>>69805911
NATO's purpose is to oppose Russia really.
>>69805689
idk chart says you're only paying 1%
Estonia is paying 1.9%
Lithuania being the only one above bar with 2.7%.
All of these figures are pretty law should one assume you take the Russian threat as a credible one, unless you're just planning to mooch of the US's power.
Just for a simple comparison, in the times we really felt threatened Israel spent as much as 35% of GDP on military (that's before US aid that was then worth about another 4-5% of GDP).
You're spending 1%.
Now sure 35% was right after a real war and things needed to get replaced etc, even the 2% NATO standard is extremely low, it was probably set as low because NATO is more a political/bureaucratic tool these days rather than a real military alliance.
>>69806046
yeah worked great the last time right
round 3 here we go
Oh fug :DDDDD
>>69796807
>>69797102
>>69797419
typical american retardation:
if you aren't bombing everyone it means you're embracing isolationism.
>>69806176
germans are massive cucks and they have millions of people who are there for the gibs rather than for the greatness of germany. World War 3 won't be started by germany. Even Hitler wouldn't be able to start WW3 if he came back
>>69806234
Are you ready for occupation?
>>69804229
Still, breaking the NATO involvement won't necessarily make America an isolanist country anyway.
The American empire will still prevail financially and culturaly all over the world.
>>69806365
germany didnt start any world wars. but this time they are going to end them for good
>>69806046
They could easily do that if they weren't forced to pay for everything in the EU.
>>69805911
There are Nato ships helping the refugees and trying to stop the smugglers
>>69805551
>Russia wants to take over
I strongly doubt that
>>69806411
Germany started the second world war, the first one was Serbs.
>>69806435
All countries want to extend their sphere of influence.
Russia especially wants muh warm water port.
>>69806570
>usa declares war on iraq
>all of europe declares war on usa
>usa started ww3.
>>69806577
Europe doesn't need the US to stop Russia they need balls.
They have 3x to 4x the population.
Italy's economy on it's own is bigger than the Russian one, and their tech is better (civilian one, military one is dependent on field.)
>>69806570
>peacefully unite german territory
>oy vey we better start a world war righto chap
>>69806305
>people ask American to get involved
>we tell other countries bullying others to fuck off
>stop it America! Can't you understand?
>become isolationist to keep power unbalanced to an unnecessary degree
>countries go back to bullying each-other unchecked
>Stop it America! Can't you understand?
Are all of you fucks outside the US this fucking stupid, or is it just you?
>>69806846
>Europe doesn't need the US to stop Russia they need balls.
more than anything we need unity
>>69807108
>there are different people with different desires
incredible
>>69796541
>Trump disbands NATO
>Europe is left defenceless against crazy ruskies with Versallies' syndrome
>Russia occupies former Soviet republics
>Declares itself Soviet Union again
>Bipolar world order is restored
>Isolationist USA finally has someone serious to compete against
>Liberals are no longer taken serious
>Tumblr-tier radicals and BLM niggers tossed in prison for threating internal stability
>America is made great again
My body is ready.
>>69807475
What? Oh, right, you're a slavshit, no sense required.
>>69807475
> t. country that hasnt been relevant in centuries
>>69796807
>>69796541
>>69796732
it's hilarious. NATO was formed to counter Soviet Union/Russia. Democrats laugh at the idea that Russia remains a threat. Republicans are the ones that think Russia is a threat.
Democrats should be the ones who want to get out of NATO, while Republicans should be the ones who want to stay. Yet it's the other way around!
Democrats can either oppose Trump and support NATO, or support Trump and oppose NATO.
either way it's funny
>>69807535
>The only way we can be great is to be enemies
I'm sorry it had to be this way Petor
>>69804580
"We HAVE to use our nukes, we haven't used them in years"
-Donald J. Trump
>>69807708
EU Czechout when?
>>69807108
>ask Americans to use their significant might in a straightforward and limited way
>America wades in wrapped in a flag and shits all over the entire mission, fucking things up for decades to come
>world is justifiably angry at America screwing up a simple mission
>Americans complain about not being appreciated for all the good things they do despite being unable to point at a single one of them
>Americans get sick of being "underappreciated" and retreat to their shitty continent of spics and niggers, evading their responsibilities in Europe with "lol not muh problem"
>Europe gets along just fine without them like it did literally for centuries
>Americans get bored and upset at being left out and wade back into the continent selling their ass for the power and prestige that comes naturally to nations like Britain and Germany so that they can pretend to be involved in European politics
And the cycle begins again.
>>69807756
when the fourth german reich offers an alliance
>>69804580
>T*rkey gets glassed.
You can't nuke cockroaches
>>69807708
the last truly significant historical event in your country was a guy getting thrown out a window
>>69807830
>Europe
>Getting along just fine
Haven't read a newspaper in a few years, huh?
>>69807830
>ask American's to use might
>in limited way
We're not your personal army, fuck off.
>>69807610
>Democrats laugh at the idea that Russia remains a threat.
Which democrats? Last time I checked Shillary wants to go full Cold War mode.
>>69796541
Praise him.
>>69808032
You literally are Germany's personal army. Japan and South Korea too.
And you sure rode France's cock when they ordered you into Libya.
>>69807999
Because America is so much whiter than Europe, right Juan?
>>69807910
>>69808067
that's shillary, most democrats here have to present a facade of "NO MORE WARS!" and that includes the whole "cold war has been over for decades" stuff
>>69805279
Then why is everyone shitting their pants over the threat of ending NATO and forcing them to pay for their own interventionist militaries?
>>69808107
>We're the primary funders, technological backers, and reinforces of every important military nation on the planet
>y-y-you're our personal army! hahaha!
Alrighty then, shouldn't be a fucking problem when we pull out all our shit and become isolationist then, huh?
>>69808132
we have a lot of untainted line. if you want niggers you can go to the south or the cities. mexicans likewise stick to the border
This is great. It will reinstall national draft in the Netherlands, and de-pussify men. Next to that we can say goodbay to our nanny-state, which also feminizes men. No more nanny-state = no more refugee money.
>>69808067
In contrast, Obama laughed at the idea of Russia as a threat when Romney brought it up in the debates.
>>69796541
Good, fuck NATO. The sooner it and the EU collapse the better.
>>69797683
You are ON our major trade route, my maple-syrup loving friend.
>>69796541
good, no decent American would want their nation to intervene in anything unless it personally threatened them, and by them I do not mean the elite.
>>69808444
When NATO collapses you give the EU good reason to create an EU army actually.
But it would for sure reinstall national draft in the Netherlands, which is good.
>>69808309
Are you implying that it would be?
American isolationism would change pretty much nothing in the world except increase stability in the Middle East. China and Russia are held in check by their crumbling internal politics, economic interdependence, and nuclear deterrence, not by US soldiers in rubber dinghies showing the flag every other month. The only place where the US military is relevant is in places that are irrelevant, like the Middle East. And Russia is doing a better job cleaning up ISIS than the US is - and the US fucking created ISIS in the first place with Gulf War 2, dipshit boogaloo.
And I love the contradiction in your argument:
"I'm sick of being the world police waaaaaaaaaah"
but also
"haha fuck you we aren't your personal army we only fight for ourselvels lololol"
You can only have one you fucking mong.
>tripfag
Why do I even bother?
>>69808203
>everyone shitting their pants
Who?
>>69804541
Where were you the last 8 years?
>>69806305
Bombing is fun tho
>>69808583
occupation of mesopotamia soon fellow euro
How do I into filter, doesn't seem to work
>>69796541
but but they protect oil corporation's private property at taxpayer expense
>>69796541
NATO is nothing but the military branch of the globalists (the UN being the political branch, and the BiS/IMF banks etc the financial branch). The sooner it dies the better.
>An isolationist, non-interventionist America that focuses on improving itself
Our founding fathers would be proud
>oil is now traded in Euro/yuan basket
>petrodollar falls
>16$ trillion debt mountain called in
>USA becomes ussr 2
>>69809089
exactly
>>69807435
And diversity. Lots of explosive brown diversity.
If Europeans would have kept up their end of the bargain this wouldn't even be an issue. So far as I know the only country that is over 2% of GDP as is required in the alliance is the UK.
>>69807830
>>Europe gets along just fine without them like it did literally for centuries
>two wold wars in the space of 3 decades that destroyed their empires and continent and nearly led to the occupation of Europe by communists
>just fine
>>69808389
I always remember this. I only thank God he wasn't someone important like a general or our captain in a war, just a figurehead for the oligarchy.
Considering we pay more than 70% of it. Ya we should
>>69797272
This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. And Europe has never, ever been our ally. They've always sought to undermine us and destroy us. You will hear this from the European leftists as well as the European nationalists.
fuck nato
get rid of it
>>69805954
Uncucked Westerner reporting in.
>>69809589
>were not trying to destroy europe but we should
>>69809440
>>two wold wars in the space of 3 decades
And America was involved in both of them, fampam.
World War One was just Empire stuff. I wouldn't expect an American to understand, but sometimes great nations fight big wars that are actually important and matter instead of fucking around in the third world or Vietnam.
World War Two was as much an American fight as it was European, seeing how you joined after Japan spat on your islands.
>>69797304
YOU ARE A FUCKING WHITE MALE
>>69808616
>American isolationism would change pretty much nothing in the world except increase stability in the Middle East.
Right. Ignore the fact of Putin actively trying to extend power and control to the previous Soviet satellite states. Ignore China trying to gain dominance among the seas against Japan. Ignore the US's seventh fleet which is guarding against North Korea aggression, and has operational command over every single naval force in the region. Ignore ALL of that.
Then again, you're an aussie, you probably did that already.
>>69808067
Shillary is a fucking Neocon. The only reason Democrats are voting for her is LITERALLY because the has a pussy...although we are not sure if she even has one to be perfectly honest with you.
>>69796541
Our best SD agent is finally fullfilling his duty and makes free the field for the next German Wars. Danke Herr Trumpf!
>>69809842
>Ignore the fact of Putin actively trying to extend power and control to the previous Soviet satellite states
Who cares?
>Ignore China trying to gain dominance among the seas against Japan
Because Japan can't and won't turn nuclear over-fucking-night and form a "fuck China" coalition with its asian brothers who it despises slightly less than China, right? All of which will be equally nuclear-armed.
China is a paper tiger anyway.
>North Korea aggression
>"North Korea is a serious threat to world peace" - t. Americlap
You cannot name a single thing America does with its military in the world today that is invaluable and irreplaceable. The shit that is done by America could easily be done by other people, but it isn't, because why the fuck would we do it when you cucks are going to do it F O R F R E E.
>>69807535
>only way to MAGA is to be enemies with Russia
Ivan, im so sorry
>>69809589
>Europe has never, ever been our ally
What the fuck
>>69810236
You heard him
>>69810236
>trusting the amerijew
>>69810109
>Because Japan can't and won't turn nuclear over-fucking-night and form a "fuck China" coalition with its asian brothers who it despises slightly less than China, right? All of which will be equally nuclear-armed.
Right, I'm sure Japan will form a coalition of nuclear armaments with Asian countries all of which it has ties to and loves admirably, it's not like Japan had a history of violence all across south-east Asia and that they all wouldn't be gunning for their throats once they lose all their support from the US's military might, or that even Korea, which is still seen in a negative light by both countries, would be happy to jump on board with them (assuming that China wouldn't just absorb them first and split it with North Korea).
>You cannot name a single thing America does with its military in the world today that is invaluable and irreplaceable
Existing.
Dumbass Aussie, lol, why do I even bother.
>>69810236
YOU HEARD THE MAN
>>69809589
America has no real allies, allies who don't abuse our generosity and actually carries their own weight, outside of the UK and maybe France.
>>69810439
>everyone in the world is too dumb to see the existential threat that china poses to asian nations EXCEPT FOR MEEEEEE
You're a real fucking genius, mate.
Also
>annexing other countries
>in the nuclear era
Never ever going to happen. The most China would do would be to impose some unequal treaties, which is literally what the US is doing just in a different part of the world. Holy fuck - one evil is replaced by another!!!!! Who would have guessed that a superpower replacing a superpower would simply be different shit with the same smell.
>>69810714
I would add Australia to that list.
Argentina during the 1990s too, we got nothing in return for being your lapdog for a decade.
>>69810714
>abuse our generosity
in what way are you generous, exactly?
>>69810726
>You're a real fucking genius, mate.
Well it's easy to knock down strawmen when you set them up, retard.
>Never ever going to happen. The most China would do would be to impose some unequal treaties, which is literally what the US is doing just in a different part of the world. Holy fuck - one evil is replaced by another!!!!! Who would have guessed that a superpower replacing a superpower would simply be different shit with the same smell.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *gasps for air* AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DxUEwxrjko
>China would do would be to impose some unequal treaties, which is literally what the US is doing just in a different part of the world
The US is getting fucked over constantly, which is why I laughed so hard, you're a fucking idiot.
>>69796541
Get in here /pol/
Bernie Truthers think they can peacefully talk about Social Justice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEFB5DA1pk0
.
>>69797365
Enjoy the Arab invasion, Mario.
>>69811207
>China receives sovereignty over Hong Kong according to the treaty and takes actions that they are legally entitled to take there now that they own it
>WOW FUCKING COMMUNISTS TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD
The double standard of Americans is comedy fucking gold.
>The US is getting fucked over constantly
But you're not our personal army, right? You still haven't decided whether you're sick of working for us or whether the US is nobody's bitch, but you only get to pick fucking one.
*raises paw* Quick question, I thought we didn't use fucking *emoticon speak* on the chan but I can see you're fresh off the fucking boat so here's a tip: go get raped by a pack of feral niggers and tell your wife's son that his dad's boyslave is a shitcunt who stuffs rats up his asshole and then duct tapes it closed because the only thing that turns him on is the sensation of things eating his own shit and go fuck yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
>>69797272
Having someone else defend them is part of the reason why Western Europeans are such cucks. It's for the best that the US stops baby sitting those cucks. Maybe they'll grow a pair.
>>69808132
Who said anything about whiteness? Europe as a whole is in the gutter economically, and things are only getting worse.
>>69806128
>>Germany will suddenly have to choose between refugees and defence
They've already made a choice.
>>69811334
>>69811665
>raises paw
>I thought we didn't
>we
>emoticon speak
>the chan
>tries too hard to fit in by mentioning niggers and rape for no reason
>after all of this, has the audacity to play le newfag card
This is my first visit back here in like 2 years and I can already tell it was a mistake. You gave my grandchildren cancer, you fucking nigger.
>>69811553
>Enjoy the Arab invasion, Mario.
>Having someone else defend them is part of the reason why Western Europeans are such cucks. It's for the best that the US stops baby sitting those cucks. Maybe they'll grow a pair.
choose one my Slavic friend, they don't teach you what contradictions are in Croatia?
>>69811665
>China receives sovereignty over Hong Kong according to the treaty and takes actions that they are legally entitled to take there now that they own it
>WOW FUCKING COMMUNISTS TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD
I wish I lived in as stupid and lack-of-understanding of a world as you do.
>But you're not our personal army, right?
>still sour about that
Heh, then maybe you should probably shut your fucking mouth and not bitch about things you take for granted, eh, cuck?
>go get raped by a pack of feral niggers and tell your wife's son that his dad's boyslave is a shitcunt who stuffs rats up his asshole and then duct tapes it closed because the only thing that turns him on is the sensation of things eating his own shit and go fuck yourself.
Go kill your family, slit your baby sisters throat, and then throw yourself off a bridge you gutter rat fuck-cunt.
Kay? Kay.
>>69811700
Still, such a scenario would make space for Visegrad intergration becoming bigger and stronger, after all, central and Eastern Europe needs a hammer and shield against the Russian animals.
But still, Trump wont do 10% of what he says because he is a democrat on the bait for votes from the dumbest voter base on the planet. Even if he would, chances are that Hillary will win it, so yeah, we are speaking of a purely fictional scenario.
>>69812288
>But still, Trump wont do 10% of what he says because he is a democrat
Kill yourself, mudslime.
>>69812229
I don't see any contradiction in what I said. You'll fight for your borders from now on and you can cry about it all you want.
>>69812632
>You'll fight for your borders from now on and you can cry about it all you want.
How is that different from now?
>>69812092
>This is my first visit back here in like 2 years and I can already tell it was a mistake
If you'd been here for half as long as you imply you have you'd have known that before coming you fucking spastic.
>>69812249
>I wish I lived in as stupid and lack-of-understanding of a world as you do.
This from the mongoloid who can't do anything but post youtube "news" videos from a spastic pasty white nerd who doesn't even attempt to hide his bias. And I bet you think his commentary is so fucking witty, too. Because why give facts and justify your opinions when you can just make a pithy remark in passing to make the dumb shit swallowing audience that you cater to, who will gulp down your every nugget without any trace of analysis or critical review, hail you as the newest coming of Tacitus.
>>still sour about that
Oh I'm not sour, I just keep brining it up because it clearly fucking embarrasses you. All you have to do is pick one of the two options you fucking tard, but you can't because you've backed yourself into your dumb little corner and cannot bear admitting that you are objectively wrong because your two beliefs are mutually exclusive.
Go ahead, make another passive aggressive deflection so I can hammer you on this again.
And never forget that the entirety of 4chan will be able to remember how badly you're fucking up right now with your inability to resolve the paradox you've created because of your stupid fucking trip, faggot.
>>69805735
people seem not to understand that Putin, former KGB officer, wants Russia to have power over the US. Trump supporters think he's going to get along well with Putin, but the reality is, Putin does what he wants and will probably try to manipulate a weak Trump for his (and russia's) own benefit.
>>69812632
the first comment seemed to suggest the dissolution of nato was a bad idea
the second one seemed to suggest it was a good idea
maybe i misinterpreted
The only reason NATO still exists are all those people working for the government that would see their salary and their future cushy pensions disappear and would have to get an actual job.
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>>69812823
>>69812823
>This from the mongoloid who can't do anything but post youtube "news"
>uses exaggeration to exacerbate his flawed arguing skills as I've only posted 1 video yet
God you're dumb.
>from a spastic pasty white nerd who doesn't even attempt to hide his bias
>bias that he has because he's a news channel dedicated to telling stories that the CCP is censoring or being mis/under reported
God you're dumb.
>Because why give facts and justify your opinions when you can just make a pithy remark in passing to make the dumb shit swallowing audience that you cater to, who will gulp down your every nugget without any trace of analysis or critical review, hail you as the newest coming of Tacitus.
>ignores facts and reduces his argument to "pithy remarks", thinking his thesaurus will impress anyony
God you're dumb.
>I just keep brining it up because it clearly fucking embarrasses you
>clearly
>constantly reminds me how bad I fucked you over with that statement and alls you can do is repeat it endlessly because of how much it's stuck in your head
God you're hilarious.
>All you have to do is pick one of the two options you fucking tard
Awwww, is baby gonna cwy?
>but you can't because you've backed yourself into your dumb little corner and cannot bear admitting that you are objectively wrong because your two beliefs are mutually exclusive.
Lol, no I haven't, but it's nice to see you trying to reverse the tables. Explain in depth about exactly what I've backed myself into and how I have please. This should be good.
It was simple, alls you had to do was accept the fact that you're an irrational idiot who's hypocritical in his wishes for what you think the US should do, or fuck off and let the US do what it does. And now you've fucked yourself over with irrational statements, over-simplified international politics, and shown how little you actually know about how the world functions. You're fucked. Just end yourself.
>>69812877
>wants Russia to have power over the US
typical American-centric view a lot of Americans seem to have
news flash: the rest of the world for the most part doesn't care about you and just wants to be left alone
>>69813507
tfw I will never be this mad.
>>69812823
>And never forget that the entirety of 4chan will be able to remember how badly you're fucking up right now
Despite my comments earlier, I will thank you for allowing me to use old OC again.
>>69813507
Pffft this is fucking pathetic.
>I only posted one video
Exactly. That's literally all you can do. It's all your capable of.
>muh pet youtube channel is the bestest and most perfect source of news ever
Then why the fuck doesn't he have a real job?
>Explain in depth about exactly what I've backed myself into and how I have please
Okay.
1. America is not anyone's personal army
2. I'm sick of our military solving the problems of other countries for them instead of acting in our interest
You only get one.
>hypocritical in his wishes for what you think the US should do
I want the US to stop fucking up. I don't care what it does so long as it actually succeeds at it. Point to one significant foreign policy goal in the last 30 years that the US actually achieved.
By the way you might want to take a chill pill, your asshurt is showing.
>>69813702
Yup, totally, I'm totally not just wasting time till me and my GF go to the movies later.
>>69812823
Also, before I offend your fragile sensibilities, I have to ask. Are you dogkin? You have an odd obsession with doggos.
>>69813927
Definitely not. I just seem to have coincidentally selected mostly dogs from my gfur collection tonight. Have some big cats.
>>69812474
>muslim
Nice try purger filth
All I am saying is tha Trump was, is and always will be a democrat at heart. Most of the bullshit he spouts are idiotic and purely to draw the even dumber GOP voter base, like the time when he lied about being a christian.
>>69796541
The day Trump disbands NATO is the day the traitorous governments of Europe lose their main source of protection.I'll just leave it at that.
>>69805649
But Ausbro.. pic related
>>69813828
>Pffft this is fucking pathetic.
Yea, you are, kek.
>Exactly. That's literally all you can do. It's all your capable of.
Lol, and alls you can do is swear like a child.
>Then why the fuck doesn't he have a real job?
He probably does. I don't know. You seem to be the one furiously sucking his cock, why not take your lips away for one moment to ask him, cuck?
>1. America is not anyone's personal army
Mmm, wrong, that was my personal statement. That explains literally nothing.
>2. I'm sick of our military solving the problems of other countries for them instead of acting in our interest
Lol, what the fuck are you talking about? The US uses it's military to project it's might, but to also safe-guard assets of the US. It's why we entered the Gulf War you retard, just to name one.
The fuck are you even talking about?
>I want the US to stop fucking up
Seeing as the US is better than you, I'd say we've got that covered.
Next please ;^)
>>69810440
they couldn't find a younger, more attractive model?
>>69813676
Putin used the expansion of NATO as an excuse to annex Crimea and attempt to control interest in the Ukraine. He's stated publicly his disdain for NATO and it's influence. Furthermore, since the Ukraine was eligible to become a part of NATO, shouldn't it be up to Ukraine, instead of Russia?
>>69814334
it should be up to gemany
>>69814201
>The US uses it's military to project it's might, but to also safe-guard assets of the US
So you admit that the US does nothing to defend other nations and any "world policing" that the US does is just advancing US strategic interests in disguise?
If so, what the fuck do you expect the world to be grateful to you for?
This is the contradiction:
"I want the world to be grateful to us even though we aren't doing anything for them by my own admission."
"The US is nobody's personal army, but we spend a lot of time defending other countries for nothing in return."
Pick one. Either way, you're wrong, because you've supported both points in the past.
>the US is better than you
Weak bait. Weaker even than your "NO U" up the top.
Step it up seppo.
Good, fuck NATO. Isolationism is the way to go. Before Europe dragged us into World Wars we were isolationists and everybody loved America for that. We were so much better off when we weren't pissing on every other country. Now the world hates us but for some stupid reason people don't want isolationism anymore.
>>69805359
You mad that he's out SOOO PROGRESSIVEing you, Joey?
>>69814566
>If so, what the fuck do you expect the world to be grateful to you for?
Deterrence, you stupid fucking faggot
>>69814897
Deterrence from fucking what? Tripfaggot just admitted that the US does nothing but look out for number one anyway, so "deterrence" can be characterised more like "dibs" on which country the US gets to fuck with next.
>>69806020
>USA should carry the burden of a paper tiger that can't even keep track of its outdated tank battalions
Nah, burgerbro. You're better off flying solo.
>>69814536
can't tell if bait
How would you like it if Germany made decisions for your country?
![200_s[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/ciRoPna.gif "200_s[1].gif")
>>69814566
>So you admit that the US does nothing to defend other nations and any "world policing" that the US does is just advancing US strategic interests in disguise?
Sure, despite the fact that the US was obligated to defend South Korea on behalf of the United Nations and is still doing so today, you fucking retard.
>The US is nobody's personal army, but we spend a lot of time defending other countries for nothing in return."
Love how you took my comment out of context.
>>69807830
>Ask americans to use their might in a straightforward and limited way
>implying that's not what you originally stated
You're a fucking idiot. By the way, I love how you add in
>fucking things up for decades to come
Even though Japan and South Korea are both the corner-stones of economic power-houses in Asia. Really shows how stupid you aussies truly are.
If you're going to "ask" America to use our might, you have absolutely no fucking say in how much we use, and you never will, so fuck off. If you don't like it, then don't ask, because we're not your personal army.
Deal with it, kiddo.
>>69814334
> an excuse to annex Crimea
Crimeans voted to be annexed to Russia, they are ethnic russians for the most part and consider themselves russians
>>69814334
>attempt to control interest in the Ukraine
in 2014 there has been a coup backed by western funded groups and western intelligence to overthrow a pro-russian government in favor of a pro-us one so i don't really get what you're saying here
>He's stated publicly his disdain for NATO and it's influence
ok and how is that bad? NATO broke the promise of non-expansion after the fall of the Soviet union and is in an aggressive stance towards Russia, constantly claiming ridiculous things like Russia being the primary threat to world peace
>since the Ukraine was eligible to become a part of NATO, shouldn't it be up to Ukraine, instead of Russia?
no idea what that means. Are you claiming Russia in deciding in their stead?
>>69806020
>>69805847
>Mfw the strongest white nations merge as one and stop the decades long infighting caused by marxist idiology
>>69815057
europe is rightful german lebensraum
>>69807535
>>69807711
>>69810171
We need to disable NAFTA
BASED TRUMP IS A SECRET RUSSIABOO
HE'S GOING TO ALLOW PUTIN TO RECLAIM THE BALTICS, FINLAND, UKRAINE, BELARUS, BESSARABIA, POLAND, CENTRAL ASIA, AND MONGOLIA FOR THE GLORY OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE
AFTER THIS, TSAR VLADIMIR WILL TAKE BACK CONSTANTINOPLE
WHO /THIRD ROME/ HERE
>>69814566
While the US does it for its own interests it also often acts in the interests of its allies, namely England, sometimes France . It largely depends who is in power at the time they all have their own reasons but it the end it mainly ends up benefiting the global jew whether thats the intention of the president or not..
>>69815074
>US was obligated to defend South Korea on behalf of the United Nations and is still doing so today
So you're South Korea's personal army?
>Japan and South Korea are both the corner-stones of economic power-houses in Asia
And they were before the US turned up too. Don't take credit for being present at the success of other nations, faggot. Japan was well on the path to modernity, and South Korea never far behind.
>If you're going to "ask" America to use our might, you have absolutely no fucking say in how much we use
"Hey America come do X for us"
"Sure, I agree to do X"
>do Y
"WHY ARE YOU SO MAD YOU ASKED ME TO DO IT FUCK YOU FAGGOTS"
t. America
>If you don't like it, then don't ask, because we're not your personal army.
Then why are you still in South Korea?
>>69796541
Fucking YES
BASED DONALDO TRUMPOLONI
>>69815272
FORGOT TO ADD ARMENIA, GEORGIA, AND AZERBAIJAN IN THERE AS WELL
>>69815321
>it also often acts in the interests of its allies
aka in its own interests, because the things that keep allies allies is helping them out.
There's no state on the planet that does charity, and America is no exception. That's why isolationism is so retarded. America is already "isolationist" in the sense that it looks out for itself. What isolationist want is for America to abandon the networks of influence that keep it top dog. If you don't engage in world politics then world politics will come to you.
>>69815491
So then why act like the US is bad for this. We are much more benevolent than most other countries would be if they had the same position and military might as us.
![Untitled-3-6085[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/plMSUHX.jpg "Untitled-3-6085[1].jpg")
>>69815363
>So you're South Korea's personal army?
No, we're the UN's personal army, which we invented, mostly as a way to just inject ourselves into every nation on the planet, including Ausfaglia. How are those bases we have there by the way?
>And they were before the US turned up too
Lol, not even close to what they are now. It's because of the US's defense and economic alliances with them that they've grown so rapidly. Of course, you're an Ausfag, you know how that works first-hand, don't you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E2%80%93United_States_Free_Trade_Agreement
>The United States is also the largest investor in Australia while Australia is the fifth largest investor in the US.
You're already bought and paid for. Enjoy your life on our dime while you still can. *puffs cigar* Because we let you.
>"WHY ARE YOU SO MAD YOU ASKED ME TO DO IT FUCK YOU FAGGOTS"
Kek, yup, we're "soooo" mad. Yup. Whatever you say, pawn.
>>69815738
>We are much more benevolent than most other countries would be if they had the same position and military might as us.
Said every empire in the history of the world.
I'm not saying the US is bad for acting in its interests, I'm saying anyone who complains that the US is performing military charity is fucking delusional.
>>69815082
They voted to join russia not under their countries accord.
>NATO broke the promise of non-expansion after the fall of the ussr...
There is some contention on what sort of promise there actually was, but even so, there's a difference between political pressure, and inciting a civil war, sending troops across borders, et cetera. Both the US and the Russian Federation undoubtedly pressured the eastern European countries politically.
>Russia deciding in their stead?
By starting a war in the Ukraine, yes.
I'm willing to concede that NATO probably was overly aggressive, but then Putin waaay overdid himself.
>>69797272
>Is it possible that this is all just a part of the ongoing white genocide plan?
this - step 1 is to weaken america and the west 2. make them withdraw like britain did 3. gang up and attack and desroy the west
>>69815822
>How are those bases we have there by the way?
Free, which allows my government to give me my tax dollars back in free healthcare instead of shitting them into our military.
>we trade with you!
Cool. Isolationist governments still trade, dipshit. Trade is a mutually beneficial relationship. Also
>US is top investor in China
>vast majority of all Australian commodities are exported to China
Thanks for the cash, faggots. Excuse us while we use it to make loads of dosh off your enemies.
>It's because of the US's defense and economic alliances with them that they've grown so rapidly.
Yeah, China would never have reached where it is today without the US economic alliance that it enjoys to this very day ;^).
Asian economies grew so rapidly because there was demand and an ability to grow to meet that demand. Neither of those things were caused by the US. All you did was stand around and take credit.
Like usual.
>>69797683
oh so canada suddenly get scared with the neighbor with all the guns and good dog decided to sell the house in town and move to the country
>>69816196
>Isolationist governments still trade, dipshit.
Did I say they didn't? Retard dumb fuck?
>Thanks for the cash, faggots. Excuse us while we use it to make loads of dosh off your enemies.
Lol, you mean those "enemies" which we sell land to and then audit the fuck out of?
Okey dokey, dumb fuckey.
>China would never have reached where it is today without the US economic alliance that it enjoys to this very day ;^).
>reached where it is today
ebin ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwOBRH56Ic0
Enjoy more delicious semen from the man who's cock you love to suck xD
>>69816196
>Asian economies grew so rapidly because there was demand and an ability to grow to meet that demand
Literally laughing out loud on my end.
>>69816605
>you mean those "enemies" which we sell land to and then audit the fuck out of
Oh yeah, the US-China tension is a big fucking ruse and doesn't exist and you're best chums ;^).
Pull the other one Tyrone.
>Did I say they didn't? Retard dumb fuck?
What's the point of bringing it up if it's going to happen regardless of the policy direction of your country? US-Australia trade isn't charity, it's as automatic as breathing and will happen regardless.
>actually implying China's rise was anything other that meteoric
>>69816729
Yeah dude, you sure come of as cool, collected, and totally under control. Not like an autist furiously hammering his keyboard and shitting out posts as fast as the counter goes down at all.
>>69815883
>By starting a war in the Ukraine, yes.
there's a war in certain eastern provinces of Ukraine, not Ukraine in general, and that is because the citizens of those provinces consider themselves more Russian than Ukrainian.
>Putin waaay overdid himself.
as previously stated, the war was started by the west, Soros was the main financier behind it. Putin has no interest in having a war on Russia's doorstep.
>>69816781
>Oh yeah, the US-China tension is a big fucking ruse and doesn't exist and you're best chums
Well, apparently you love to pretend that there's absolutely no tension between all the Asian countries over in East-Asia, so why not?
>Pull the other one Tyrone.
Says the man living in a literal prison colony.
>actually implying China's rise was anything other that meteoric
It's been meteoric because they've done nothing to keep themselves in check. They've in essence, destroyed most of their viable resources, which is why Obama licensed an agreement to start selling water from the US to them.
>>69816866
You're doing an awfully lot of projecting for a country that's never been a super-power.
>>69796541
Ignore him. He doesn't know his head from his ass and he'll never be PoTUS anyways.
>>69816866
What makes you think furfags are welcome here? Fuck off with your degenerate bullshit.
The U.S. will not have to babysit a bunch of worthless smelly euroshits anymore. Oh no, whatever will we do.
>>69817436
Furries are pretty Redpilled.
>>69796807
If this happens I'm definitely renewing my american passport, I've only been there twice on vacation when I was young. Finally I would be able to own a gun and enjoy all the freedom.
>>69796541
Didn't Trump have connections to Russian mafia in NYC? Frankly, this sounds like something a KGB recruit would push. Sad!
>>69816891
That would be like saying "well... there's war in some Italian provinces like Lombardia and Veneto, but it's not 'war in Italy'."
>putin had no interest in having a war on Russia's doorstep
The second Chechen war lasted literally all of Putin's first term in office. Which is interesting considering the people in Chechnya wanted to break away from Russia which he didn't allow, but now that Crimea wants to be part of Russia, he condemns Ukraine for trying to keep it. Hypocrisy.
This was a fun discussion, but i've got to go. peace
>>69796541
This is absolutely wonderful!!!
This is the greatest news ever!?!!
If only those ameritards stopped watching John Oliver and put trump in the office this would be the begining of a new future.
>>69807535
>>Isolationist USA finally has someone serious to compete against
It's China. The Chinese economy is literally ten times bigger than Russia's.
Russia is a fast declining mid size kleptocracy with nukes while China is a real superpower with insane resources they're just being shy about it.
