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>"you'll be happier if you transition!"
>transition
>kill self

Liberals will literally defend this
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>>69790458

sage this daily shitpost
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>literally
Please stop
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>>69790458
who she?
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>>69791108
i've got some bad news for you anon
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>>69790458
Liberals are living in fantasy.
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they will just say that the trannie killed himself because of transphobia
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>>69791182
You will just end up killing yourself and it will be easier to have friends/get laid if you are just a normal gay, transitions are not worth it amigo
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>>69791155
Oh, well (s)hes a trump supporter so it's okay
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>>69790458
Traps are the only good ones. Trannies and transgenders are nasty.
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>>69791108
warmfreshpaint on chaturbate
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>>69790569
Liberals will defend this.
Liberals will literally defend this.

I don't see how the first sentence could be perceived as "figuratively"
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>>69790458

Sounds like you're jealous you haven't transitioned yet op.
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>>69791560
"it's only degeneracy if I don't like it!"
go back to /r9k/ you fucking wanker
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>>69791712

Unless you're already feminine enough to be capable of cross dressing and pulling it off, transitioning wont help you at all. Since bone structure can't be hormoned away.
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>>69791882
hairy portuguese sand niggers don't look good after with cute pills
we lack good traps, it's sad
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>>69792073

Have you been verified by other people or are you assuming that yourself?

Trannies tend to think they're passing when they aren't.
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I don't have any problems with adults and mature teens deciding to dress like girls and take hormone blockers. It's a fetish and they can have sex however they want, it's the kids who are paired into it by the media that get fucked up by it.
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>>69791712
>>69792073
Not sure about Spain, but here people are ok with gays
All I'm saying is that fucking your body up with surgery + hormones will probably drive you to suicide

If you are already a trap don't go any further, it's never worth it
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Just admit you like getting fucked and looking like a girl and you won't have emotional problems
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>>69792066
How does indecent exposure laws work for trannys? If they pull there fake boobs out while looking like a hairy male will they get arrested?
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>>69791182
hello spaniard sissy
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>>69792066

goddammit
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>>69790458
Who is this semen demon?
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>>69791916
Cuck.
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>>69792262
you are the semon demon if you get with "her".
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>>69791988
>cute pills
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Shemales are nothing new. They have always been a kink.
10 years ago. I could not imagine shemale culture would be overused for satirical purposes here on 4chan in 2016
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>>69792190
>Not sure about Spain, but here people are ok with gays
Lisbon? Up here most people are okay with BEING gay, they are not okay with public displays of affection.
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>>69791988
>>69791988
your women have mustaches. i mean actual women not traps or shemales.
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I still enjoy the child and adult relationship acceptance threads though. We should have more of them.
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>>69792066

Cute
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>>69790458
dont transistion still kill yourself good job.
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>>69792250

Post the fucking pics faggot I don't have all day to masturbate.
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>>69792495
>child and adult relationship acceptance

Are you a fucking pedo, vietanon?
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>>69790458
explain;
do they kill themselves after 40 because they cant be womyn anymore and that their wasted male life and that cant stand to live as a natural man after that?

or can they only live with "muh privilege" as a woman?
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>>69792250

Let's fucking see it then faggot. That's what this thread is for.
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>>69792655
Who doesn't like little girls? They're adorable.
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>>69792250
>people say I'm really cute

>you know the truth, anon

Post pics and we'll decide. You want validation as a girl, don't you? Quit fucking around and we'll tell you if you're wasting your life or not, faggot
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>>69792272
>looks at flag
Pleased to meet you, Carl McCuckold.
If you like traps, jump on a pic related and kill yourself.
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>>69792066
Is this the "your not old enough to vote" Trump girl?
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>>69790458
Maybe that's what liberals really want? Maybe their aim is to normalize transitional surgery so that trannies off themselves faster. They might even start a push for transitional surgery to be funded by the federal government. It would let them virtue signal while slowly getting rid of one of the biggest pieces of evidence that there are inherent differences between the sexes
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>>69792774
We should have dumped more Agent Orange on you
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god fucking damn it. fucking faggots shut the fuck up and end yourself
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>>69792250
You are. Just stay a qt trap for the time being and gain muscle when you become too old for that.

Because at the end of the day, can you really imagine yourself as an old woman rather than an old man?

>p-post butt
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>>69792986
but America! A lot of good CP were made in your country! I got like this because of you!
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Anyone else get a warm feeling when a tranny abomination kills itself?

I feel like the world just became a little better
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>>69793542
Remember that tranny that threw himself in front of a truck and died and trannies were protesting that the driver wasn't charged with murder or a hate crime?
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>>69793660
pants off
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>>69793660
Post feet
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>>69793660
bend over homo
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>>69793542

>that goybook post
>attention whoring
>d-don't try to stop me!
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>>69793660
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>>69793712
>>69793755
>>69793760

>/pol/ hates gays
>loves traps

Degeneracy?
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>>69793712
>>69793755
>>69793760
niggers get out
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>>69793755
wtf man you're a faggot too?

jesus what's happening to pol
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>>69793858
You attention whoring faggot
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>>69790458
As far as I'm concerned they have the liberty to do whatever they want to their body.
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>>69793651

Yep pretty hilarious
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>>69794024
Post chest
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>>69793660
>>69793712
>>69793755
>>69793760

Die faggots
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>>69794024
>>69794119

Kill yourself weebshit faggot trash you are an ugly monstrocity and an abomination jump off a bridge freak
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>>69794024
Gib snapchat
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>>69793542
It makes me sad really
Knowing that he could have had a normal life if he didn't fall for the transgender meme
>>69792437
Porto, none of the gays I've ever met have had any problems
It's not like I'm an expert at this subject tbqh
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>>69794181

This.
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>>69791108
>she
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>>69793899
>baguette calling others niggers
the irony
>>69794119
post more
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>>69794119
Put on some weight
2 skeely 4 me
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>>69793660
Oh dear God,it's this faggot again.
I remember that ass from the last thread.
FUCK OFF
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>>69794286
Kik any thing i live to harass traps and flirt
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>>69794119
Thanks mr. Skeletal
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>>69790458
liberals actually claim that if you block puberty in order to transition there's literally zero people who'll ever regret it

Seriously, they cite a study that """proves""" that
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>>69794457
Fuck off, Jorge.
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>>69794457
Post throw away email or steam then
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>>69794457
Work out, lift weights, and you'll find your hunger again. Exert yourself. Be a man.
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>>69794457
You camwhored,but you're scared to post face,you cum slurping faggot?
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>>69794457
you expect me to browse pol erryday?
post steam ya cunt
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>>69794074
Hello Greekman of homo hating

flay the gays
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>>69794531
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HAHAHAHHAA HE GOT BANNED
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>>69790458
That same person would probably kill themselves regardless of the transition.
Hormone therapy and surgery is actually the best chance you've got if you have gender dysphoria.
And if discrimination against transsexuals would be reduced, I imagine it would be even more successful.

Until we find a replacement treatment for this issue, we should stick to the one that actually has some chance of working.
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trap got banned kek
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>>69794658

Everyone has to do their bit
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>>69793858

Nice feets, would lick them
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>>69794531
>>69794571
>implying you can hide you cuck
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>>69794798
He'll be back in 3 days or something. Maybe even less if he knows how to use a proxy.
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Liberals don't care about the people they "defend", they only care about their own egos and giving off the impression that they're more compassionate than those around them.
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#freeerica
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>>69790458
I had a friend who transitioned. Ask me anything.

Long story short:
>he was 25
>married with a kid
>started hanging out with leftists who, in my opinion, brainwashed him
>decided to go through with his deepest fantasy of transitioning into "Michelle"
>all leftists friends immediately supportive and totally on board with him being him(her)self
>me and one other friend only rational ones
>"You have a wife and kid. Think of what will happen. You're literally throwing everything away to live out a fantasy."
>goes through with it anyways
>months go by
>his wife leaves him
>she won't ever let him see kid because he's a tranny now
>Michelle tries to kill himself
>fails and ends up in hospital
>all friends super supportive
>I don't bother, other rational friend pretty much said told you so, hang up the hat m8
>months go by Michelle still is girl
>same story, no wife, no kid, can't find new job to support him being tranny
>tries to kill self again this time by cutting wrists
>fails again (I don't know how people fail at killing themselves. He probably is just doing it for attention at this point).
>back to hospital
>leftists friends once again supportive
>me distant
>other rational friend starting to give up
>don't know what happened to this day because I deleted Jewbook
Remember: being transgender is a mental disease and acting upon it will ruin your life (especially if you are a late transition like Michelle) The people who support it are promoting a disease.
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>>69795151
You should try to find out what happened

Feel sorry for the wife and kid tbqh
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>>69795151
I've failed suicide before. I took a whole shit load of pills but i just woke up on my bathroom floor face down in a pile of sick.
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>>69795151
>Remember: being transgender is a mental disease and acting upon it will ruin your life

But this is false. Gender dysphoria is a mental disease, and being transgender is a treatment for it. Statistically the most successful treatment, even though numbers are low.
The disease is just such that if you have it, it will probably drive you to depression and suicide.
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>>69795151
>He probably is just doing it for attention at this point
I think this is the root of it. It's a form of religious esotericism, except it's transgressive instead of transcendent
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>>69795336
>suicide by pills
Are you a woman?
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>>69795425
I couldn't get my guillotine to work and I couldn't be arsed going to the hardware store.
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>>69795379
>Statistically the most successful treatment
Making someone infertile, weak, and even more depressed & mentally unhinged is considered "successful treatment" now?
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>>69795302
I guess I could ask one of the old leftist friends next time I see him. I feel bad for them too, especially the kid. Oh well.

>>69795336
Sorry to hear that m8. Anytime you feel suicidal remember we need you on 4chan to shitpost.

>>69795379
I could have been better with the syntax of my language. I'm sorry. You know what I meant though.
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>>69795379
>Giving in to the delusion helps
Everyone I know that has transitioned has been worse off for it.
I have nothing against them for being trans, but they need psychological/psychiatric help, not surgery that just fucks them over more.
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>>69795546
I guess it's kinda like lobotomy, it works but it sucks.
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>>69795490
I'm sure there are plenty of high places in down under land
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>>69795151
>have a wife and kid
>THEN claim to be a real grill
Definitely brainwashed
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>fuciboi deleted his steam url
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>>69795692
Well I'd spent the entire previous afternoon building the damn thing and I didn't want it to go to waste. But I suppose it did in the end anyway.

I ended up taking it down to a local playground that had a whole bunch of wooden play equipment and just leaving it there.
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>>69795151

Trannies that "transition" have a higher suicide rate than simple crossdressers
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>>69795546
>>69795656
If you have gender dysphoria you are pretty much fucked, but by transitioning you throw some dice and maybe you luck out and you live a decent life.

Overall its a fight against the odds, but what is the alternative?
People with gender dysphoria WILL 100% of the time be miserable, depressed and suicidal if they just "man up" and stay as is.
Hormone therapy and surgery is the best available treatment. It is still very unlikely to help, but more likely than not acting out against your condition.

Hopefully we come up with a better solution to this disease in time. Currently we dont have one.
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>>69795916
Or they could just take pimozide and be happy.
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>>69795885
Simple crossdressers dont have gender dysphoria.
Thats like saying chemotherapy patients have higher death rates than bald people.

Come on, /pol/, at least read up on what you are arguing.
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>>69795151
>Had a friend who tried to kill himself.
>Everyone else who knew was supportive.
>I told him, "What kind of faggot fails at killing themselves? It's pretty fucking simple to do."
>After all these years, I'm the only person from back then that he still keeps in contact with and is friends with.
>He says I'm the reason he never tried again, because I told him to man up and stop being a pussy.

It probably helps that as far as our situations in life were, he'd had a better life overall than I had, at the time, though as of right now I'm better off than he is.
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>>69795725
http://steamcommunity.com/id/courier_ttf
>not saving links before they get deleted
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>>69795986
>Or they could just take pimozide and be happy.

Yeah, for three months, and then what? You cant spend all your life on antidepresants.
There is a crash, and at that point you'd kill yourself.
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>>69795885
To be fair, most cross dressers are straight.
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I don't think anyone should transition unless they're 110% positive that can deal with the shit.
Hell I was at McDonald's the other day and this cutie working the til was clearly trans. Actually pretty passing but I could still tell because I'm a degenerate that faps to all kinds of shemale porn.
Anyhow, I gave "her" a bit of a knowing smile and just could see pain in her eyes.
Fuck all of you bigotted faggots that drive them to it.
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>>69796085
*anti-psychotics

and yes you can
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>>69796001
>>69796101

By crossdressers I mean the trannies that take hormones and pretend to be women. There is no such thing as a tranny they are men with fake tits and wigs.
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>>69796085
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
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>>69795955
same guy 3 years later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMO5CHFnJFY
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>>69795916
I know it's a losing battle either way, but they are much better off getting the support and help they need from friends and family along with mental care professionals, and try to keep them as they are. If they still want to, they are free to go ahead as long as they are cleared by psych beforehand, and not as if I'll feel any less of them, but it still just puts them in a worse off position IMO.
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>>69795916
>what is the alternative?
Accepting your body for what it is and learning to live with it sounds much safer, easier, and more productive than tearing your body apart, destroying your reproductive abilities, lying to yourself & everyone around you, sperging out when people don't accept you as something that you're not, and being on medication that fucks with your body for the rest of your life.

>>69796085
But you can spend all your life on hormones and drugs that stop your body from trying to recover properly from the surgery?
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>>69796318
>one patient
I'd like to see that research conducted with more people, if it works better than hormones it would be great.
At the moment we dont know if it will.

>i didnt mean to say what i said
So say it right. And no, not all transvestites have gender dysphoria. Most dont.
I dont get why so few people use the actual term for the disease being discussed.
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>>69795955
>Professionals waste their talent and time doing that
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>>69796524
Big money to be made.
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>>69796245
Try taking them sometime.
Until then, try not living in a bubble where the world could be so easy if only you had any say, cause that's a mental illness too.
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>>69796261
Fuck that picture, disgusting faggot.

I used to cross dress, had a small bag of ladies clothes and underwear I'd put on and wank into, every costume party I'd crossdress to. But eventually the thrill went away and I don't do it anymore. Took a few years for it to wind down but it's gone now. Threw the collection away a few years ago, into a bin on the other side of the city, on garbage collection day, at 1am.

I was shit-scared for years that my mum would find the clothes if I died in a car accident or something when all it was for me was a slightly naughty way to wank.
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>>69796261
Fair enough.
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>>69796524
Would you like to see how its done?
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>>69795151

>Tfw the family your family was friends with had a grandfather, who had GRANDKIDS before finally coming out as gay and ruining their lives from the grandma down

It honestly struck me as the most selfish thing one could possibly do. I have yet to encounter anything in life that has exceeded it.
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>>69796640
;-))) jasmine don't lie to yourself
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>>69794801
>Hormone therapy and surgery is actually the best chance you've got if you have gender dysphoria.
Best chance they've got if weed was legal.
>smoke you brains out
>forget the problems
Like generations and generations of grandfathers did sinking their life's disdain in alcohol.
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>>69796457
>just man up and accept it
The definition of the disease is that you cant accept your body.
If you can, then you dont have gender dysphoria. It is defined by inability to live as your current gender.

>it is impossible to live decently on hormones
It is unlikely, but it is not impossible. There are people alive right now who have transitioned, and are having good lives.
Again, I dislike the hormone therapy, I dislike the surgery, it all seems grotesque to me, but it is statistically the best way to treat a mental disease that we have right now.

Until things like >>69796318 are further tested and popularized, we'd do well to treat transsexuals like cancer patients. They look like freaks because they are treating their illness.
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Leave my son and her body alone!
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>>69796762
>treat a problem that will likely result in suicide with alcoholism

If anything, that will only make their life expectancy shorter. At least they will pay a lot of tax on all these spirits I suppose.
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>>69796702
Can you show me the world?
Take me beautiful places?

If not then fuck off.
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>>69796669
Why did I watch the entire thing, again? Surgeons can transform an sex organ into another, yet my doctors fucked up my TOES.
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>>69790569
>>69790458
Liberals will liberally defend this

>>69791155
>>69794311
>>69791561
Jesus Christ I want to suck her penis
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>>69796951
>Surgeons can transform an sex organ into another,


Uh. No. They can just turn one inside out or take chunks off your legs to make a meat sausage that you can now piss through.
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>>69796765
Why are you acting like it's impossible for them to EVER come to terms with who they are? You even claim that dsyphoria is cureable if they mutilate their body, which doesn't actually turn them into a woman, so what makes you think that there's no other way to fix them? If they can come to terms with being an ugly mutilated infertile mess that's going to die early, surely they can come to terms with being a healthy decent-looking male.
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>>69796850
This is why i suggest weed. Alcoholism will kill them fast especially if they have health problems (and often they do this prevents normal sexual manifestation in the first place they can't compete in the body development against peer group). Not like our grandfathers cared about alcohol health effects with their life expectancy.
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>>69790458
>implying killing off trannies is a bad thing

You should probably transition now, OP.
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>>69795379
>Statistically the most successful treatment
don't they still kill themselves in similar percentage? if the treatment for suicidal depression didn't significantly improve the chances of patients not killing themselves it would be called a failure and a scam, not a success
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>Transitionfags can't even wait for brain transplants or vr
Fucking faggots holy shit
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>>69797278
Most of the dysphoria, which again by definition means you can't come to terms with your body, is already elevated by hormone therapy. I guess both its effects on your body and brain. "Mutilating" your body, which in fact is just swapping out genitals and hardly mutilation, is just taking it a step further cause who the fuck would want to be a girl with a dick. Now that's a whole other mental illness.

Apart from that, hormone therapy is enough to make you infertile and in some cases even asexual, so whether or not you lop off your dick makes no difference.
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>>69797675
>Girls with dicks
>Who wouldn't want this
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>>69797278
>Why are you acting like it's impossible for them to EVER come to terms with who they are?

Because thats what the definition of the disease is.
And I dont claim its curable, I claim its treatable.
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>>69796892
I'll give you a whole new perception and take you on a magic ride. just rub the lamp
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>>69797767
It being your fetish doesn't validate it, much less suggests that the person who is actually affected should be fine with it because you you want them to from a perverted pov.
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>>69797612
Nah, if you start early enough and get proper support (read: you dont travel to Vietnam for operations and chew on South American hormones) your chances increase somewhat.

It is still very bad and you will probably enter a depressed state and kill yourself.
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>>69796420

i genuinely felt my stomach churn, a sick revolting feeling to the point of retching

never felt like that in years and ive watched isis/cartel gore.

how bizarre.
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>>69798060
>Genitalia scares me
lel
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>>69797983
20x higher suicide rates than normal people after transitioning last time I checked.
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>>69798191
>mentally ill people prone to depression kill themselves more often than normal people

Yes. Yes, you are correct.
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>>69797675
>which in fact is just swapping out genitals and hardly mutilation
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOW THE FUCK IS TEARING YOUR DICK APART NOT MUTILATION? SWAPPING GENITALS? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, I'VE SEEN BUTCHERS CUT ANIMALS APART IN LESS VIOLENT WAYS THAN THOSE SRS VIDEOS.

>>69797805
And you're saying it's not possible to treat it without destroying their bodies? If you can't even cure it, what even is the point i doing all that shit to them?
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>>69798191
About 20% of bipolar people kill themselves too, but since this is nothing spectacular like trannies that the media could profit from, noone gives a fuck.

This hypocrisy is annoying. Bipolar treatment is piss poor, much like tranny treatment but noone bats an eye, yet everyone loses their shit over trannies.

It's your fetish, admit it or drop the discussion.
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>>69798354
I am saying that of all the treatments available right now, hormone therapy and surgery is the one most likely to lead to a decent life.
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>>69795490
>I couldn't get my guillotine to work
Even when posting about the darkest shit aussies still manage to make it fun
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Can we go back to the good old times where we put the loonies in asylums and be over with the insanity... Then they can spend their entire day surrounded by like-minded crazy people and with a lesser chance of suicide in their padded rooms! And who knows maybe with electroshock therapy some can ever return to being normal. It's win-win fellas!
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>>69798354
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOW THE FUCK IS TEARING YOUR DICK APART NOT MUTILATION?
Leaves you with a functional vagina, that for some even enables sex in the first place, as opposed to having some useless meaty appendage that only gets in the way.

Mutilation looks different and doesn't exactly have the goal to leave you with the resemblance of a proper human body part.
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>>69794038
mean!!
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>>69798591
>functional vagina

Thats far fetched, although I agree with you in general.
It leaves you with something that you can pretend is a functional vagina, more like.
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>>69790458
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>>69798676
Well, I don't see the womb as part of a vagina and once you hit the menopause, your vagina is just as functional as a surgical one, but women still have sex.
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>>69798855
I meant lubrication, stretching when aroused, pleasure, stuff like that.
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>>69798439
And I'm saying you're wrong. They have a better chance of living a decent life with a healthy body rather than a broken, mutilated, dysfunctional body.

>>69798591
>functional vagina
LOL

>some useless meaty appendage that only gets in the way
We're not talking about FtM SRS here mate. Even if their hormones stop them from getting an erection, a real dick is a lot more functional than a literal gaping wound.

>doesn't exactly have the goal to leave you with the resemblance of a proper human body part
SRS doesn't either, it's just a cash grab for surgeons, and the results are fucking terrible.
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>>69798189
I'm sorry but that is the absense of genitalia, their used to be a full working reporoductive system, that has the miracle ability of creating children. Now it's just a scar from where a penis and balls used to be, nothing else.
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>>69794038
>Online trolls urged trans game developer Rachel Bryk to jump off a bridge. She did. The ultimate madman.
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>>69790458
That's a cute girl
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>>69795379
>fucking up your body irreversably is a good way to treat mental illness

Are you fucking stupid
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>>69798988
Why would a neovagina not lubricate or feel nice? It's not the 20th century anymore.

>>69799023
>We're not talking about FtM SRS here mate. Even if their hormones stop them from getting an erection, a real dick is a lot more functional than a literal gaping wound.

>can't even get an errection
>jacking off hurts
>freak out during sex
>functional

Whatever man.
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>>69799023
>And I'm saying you're wrong.
If you have gender dysphoria, you can NOT enjoy a decent life as your current gender.

Of the serious studies conducted, only the first one gave bad results. Unsurprisingly, thats the one that the /pol/ sphere always quotes.

>J. K. Meyer & Reter, 1979, unfavorable results in the long term after transitioning
>Pauly, 1981, 72% of transitioning people confirmed favorable outcomes in the long term
>Rehman and colleagues (1999), very favorable, few patients regretted
>Krege and colleagues (2001), very favorable, few patients regretted
>Smith, Van Goozen, Kuiper, & Cohen-Kettenis, 2005, only 2% regretted
>De Cuypere et al., 2005; Garaffa, Christopher, & Ralph, 2010, Klein & Gorzalka, 2009 - almost nobody regretted

All of these concern sex life, general well being, perception of self, others perception, and such.
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>>69799402
Will you make an argument, or just throw insults?
I said it is the best available treatment, not that it is a good treatment.
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That dude looks like Rocky Dennis.
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>>69790458
I fail to see the problem.

You thought the grass was greener on the other side and it wasn't. Except you chopped your balls off and can't go back or in her case grew a dick.
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>>69799528
Ok
How about we DON'T encourage them to fuck up their bodies and instead give them psychological help.
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a small red pill for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAU3SPYFsA
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tfw no transgender pucc to fuck

BULGARIA YES
FORWARD
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>>69799901
Psychological "help" is already a prerequisite to getting surgery, and sometimes HRT.
It's just that "help" sucks donkey dick, because noone yet taught shrinks how to actually help trannies, likely because noone figured it out.

Work on that.
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>>69799901
Psychological help doesnt give you better results.
See the studies here >>69799469
Hormone therapy and surgery kind of works. It takes a person that is almost guaranteed to live in constant depression and very likely to kill themselves, and makes it possible for them to live a decent life.
Not guaranteed, but possible, and at a higher success rate than any of the other treatments.
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>>69790458
Gender disphoria is a mental illness. People.who trans should kill themselves
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>>69799528

Kill yourself, faggot.

>That shit never gets old.
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>>69799199

>cute girl


Gud b,8
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>new girl begins working with me
>typical butch chubby lesbian type
>fun to work with, really funny and personable with everyone
>decides to become a transman. apparently she knew since she was about 13 that she was a man inside
>receives about 6 months of pre-transition therapy from gender therapists and psychologists, none of whom are anything like consultant psychiatrists or trained medical practitioners. they literally do some postgrad bullshit after completing their bachelor of psychology with a second major in gender/social studies and then call themselves gender therapists
>she recounts to me one day at work a conversation she had with her main therapist which involved her therapist refusing to understand why anyone would ever commit suicide, the therapist going on to say: "there is help out there if you need it, so why go through with it?"
>she rages internally at her therapist as her own brother, a fag, commuted suicide
>a month after this she commences hrt
>she begins to act out with various hyper masculine affectations, as though that is what a man must act like: aggressive, confrontational and antisocial
>'he' becomes a harsh, prickly, and withdrawn imitation of the girl i once knew
>get fired 2 weeks later for theft and fraud as she lacked to money to pay for the various invasive surgeries she was told were perfectly acceptable to undertake
>attempted suicide 3 days ago
this is the cure the progressive left chose. this is progress.
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>>69798855
There's no way a sane person could ever think this, you're clearly a tranny trying to justify the useless ineffective mutilation that you have so much hope in. It's a damn shame you weren't killed in the terrorist attacks last month, it's thanks to degenerates like you that Europe is in such a fucking terrible state right now.

>>69799414
>>can't even get an errection
If you stopped taking drugs you'd be able to. It's not permanently broken.

>>jacking off hurts
>>freak out during sex
Brain problems. You've deluded yourself into feeling this way, and there's still hope that your mentality can be fixed.

>>functional
Because an inverted dick with less sensitivity, that's prone to infection, is nothing like a real vagina, and has no reproductive abilities is so much more functional right?

>>69799469
>If you have gender dysphoria, you can NOT enjoy a decent life as your current gender.

That's just something retards convince themselves or are brainwashed into believing. Not to mention that a lot of trannies are just vulnerable depressed people that were looking for a cause for their misery and after coming across the tranny fad got sucked in and deluded into thinking that the real reason for their depression must be gender dysphoria and refuse to believe anything else because they believe that at long last they've found their problem and it's something people claim to be treatable.

>Of the serious studies conducted, only the first one gave bad results.
Tell me, how many of these are funded by organisations with a pro-tranny bias or something to gain from positive results, how many of the pre-2010 patients are happy and still alive at this point in time, and just how many of these so-called "happy patients" are there compared to all the dead and depressed post-op trannies out there?
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>>69799589
kek
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>>69800649
>your facts are wrong, my 4chan post is right

m8
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>>69800531
>>typical butch chubby lesbian type
the first mistake
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>>69799469
>If you have gender dysphoria, you can NOT enjoy a decent life as your current gender.

Literally treatable with 2mg if Pimozide daily, results are good almost all of the time.
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>>69800198
So wait
There isn't a good psychological treatment for acceptance but there is fro transitioning?
What the fuck
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>>69800798
>Literally treatable with 2mg if Pimozide daily, results are good almost all of the time.

There is literally ONE documented case.
Yeah, 100% winrate, 1 out of 1.
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>schizophrenic asks doctor for help
>the doctor tells him to listen to the voices in his head

This is wrong.

>an anorexic asks a doctor for help
>the doctor advises her to schedule liposuction

This is wrong.

>a person with gender-dysphoria asks a doctor for help
>the doctor imbibes their delusion and even gives medication to further it

This is correct.

What a strange world we live in.
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>>69790458
What exactly is wrong with the mentally ill killing themselves?
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>>69790458
“This is Colonel Testosterone to all Androgen fire teams at the primary and secondary perimeters! I want a controlled fallback to the testes by stages, regrouping as you go! Our objective is full evac of DHEA and androstenedione , and we will hold this station until it’s done! You have at most one hour to make your way back here; after that you’re going to be Estrogen.”
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#NotAllFaggots
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>>69800649
>There's no way a sane person could ever think this
You don't know shit about neovaginas and surgical procedures, so with what credibility are you saying this?


>less sensitivity
>prone to infection
And thank you for proving me right.

>>69800833
To my awareness, yes. Otherwise you'd hear a lot more people speaking up. To date there is only McHugh, who does nothing but complain how upsetting his work is but has no actual suggestion or idea how to solve the issue himself, next to all the armchair psychologists you find elsewhere on the net.

I mean, you're welcome to find a study that proves me wrong, because if there was alternative treatment, surely there would be information.
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>>69799909
>post op trans are 20 times more likely to commit suicide

That settles it
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>>69800721
>facts

>>69801290
These "neovaginas" aren't magic, y'know? They can't magically lube themselves, nor can they magically regrow more nerves, and unlike a natural unmutilated bodypart they're not going to be able to recover as well.
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>>69801290
Watch this>>69799909
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>>69800531
If your story weren't made up:
>she begins to act out with various hyper masculine affectations, as though that is what a man must act like: aggressive, confrontational and antisocial
Would be the results of testosterone. You have very little understanding of how deeply your hormones influence your mental state. Most people never fuck with their hormones enough to have any other state of mind to compare it to. But it has more to do with who you are than you can possibly imagine.
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>>69796702
Jasmine, top kek
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>>69793542
If you're a depressed ugly man you're gonna be a depressed ugly sheman. Libshits have some deranged ethics.
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>>69790458
We're supposed to accept trannies, but they can't even accept the body they were born into. Fuck 'em
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>>69799909
>Being transgender
>Mental illness

He has to pick one.
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>>69797127
worse than dagestan massacre video
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>>69801514
I made references to peer reviewed academic studies.
You just quoted me and said I am wrong.

Not all posts are created equal, anon, and yours is just worse than mine.
Argue me wrong, dont just tell me that I am wrong. Argue the studies.
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>>69790458
I transitioned several years ago. I'm currently looking into castration. I'm also planning on killing myself next year.

I don't see the problem.
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>>69801514
>They can't magically lube themselves
Except they can unless you didn't give a fuck and went to the next best surgeon around the corner.

>nor can they magically regrow more nerves
Of course not, but the nerves you do have can do more when they're not concentrated to a single spot.

>>69801557
>Compares transsexuality to BID
Yeah no I'm not suffering through the whole 16 minutes of made up pseudoscience.
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>>69801861
Why do you want to do all that shit if you're going to kill yourelf anyway
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>>69801861

Please take more people with you so we can have a happening thread.
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>tfw transitioning

I don't care anymore. I just want to be a girl.
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>>69801514
And before someone spergs out, by "as well" I mean "as good as the aforementioned thing", not "too". English is my third language, so do pardon my unclearness.

>>69801796
I'm not going through all these studies just to tell you that they're biased and short-sighted when 9/10 LGBT-related studies I've looked at were like this.

>>69801919
>Except they can
Slimy sweat isn't lube.

>but the nerves you do have can do more when they're not concentrated to a single spot
You'll lose a bunch of them in the operation, AND your prostate will become less sensitive which is a fucking crime.
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>>69802057
there was a stat that shows the vast majority of trannies end up actually happy and satisfied
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>>69802057
It won't make you a girl.

>>69802267
Clearly not true, turkroach.
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>>69802057
Just wait till brain transplants or vr comes out, Jesus can't you faggots wait. If I can do it we all can.
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>>69802345
I'm dead anyway

Killing myself either way.
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>>69802254
>academic and peer reviewed studies that disagree with my viewpoints are biased and short sighted

You continue to just tell me I am wrong, without making a point, or providing relevant and reliable information.
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>>69802254
>Slimy sweat isn't lube.
It's part prostate fluid and part whatever the body makes of that lining surgeons create that sort of becomes a mucus membrane.

And again, don't go to the surgeon around the corner and you won't lose any nerves.
They'll take a while to reattach themselves like after any surgery, but preserving them is quite obviously priority in this type of procedure and the last thing to be worried about.

And your posts are just full of what >>69802488
said. Everything you say is just made up in your head in a way you think makes sense.
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>>69801919
>hey here's proof
>nah fuck u

Ok
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>>69799155
Not only that, but it being mutilated and unnaturally stuffed into the body to make it into a "vagina". Makes me sick, too
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>>69802458
>vr sex
commit sudoku for even implanting the thought in my mind
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>>69792437
>>69794244
I have a friend in London. That is gay, and he himself can't deal with how obnoxious gays are in London.
Just because you are gay, you don't have to show it to the world constantly. I don't go around telling people I love vaginas.
Partly because now catcalling give 2 year jail time.
People should keep their sexuality for themselves and their partners.
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>proof
>youtube video of anecdotes
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>>69790458
I personally know the tranny in that picture and i am one myself. I can gurantee we are both happier after hormones.

The fallacy and meme that transitioning somehow leads to suicide is just more than a little false. It has been proven time and time again that if a transgender person gets proper medical care and following during hormonal treatments that they will end up a LOT happier.

The people who end up killing themselves are usually doing a combination of the following
1. Self medding and not being followed by a doctor. This is terrible because they usually get the dosage wrong and a lot of other problems.
2. They cant afford to take hormones consistantly and are constantly on/off them. This is fucking TERRIBLE for your body and mental health. Your hormones should not fluctuate that much and its extremely important that if you start hormones to keep taking them unless closely followed by a doctor.

3. They get the barbaric genital mutilation procedure shilled as a "surgery". The truth behind this surgery is that the vast majority of the "medical documents" and "studies" are not peer reviewd and are literally just forged by the VERY SAME plastic surgeons who are paid so much to perform the surgery in the first place. It is nothing more than genital mutilation and once the trannies who were tricked into getting it realize this they usually kill themselves.

If a transgender person is properly followed by medical prfoessionals during hormones and does not get the surgery there risk of suicide is EXPONENTIALLY reduced, although it is still 0.

You have to remember that gender dysphoria is an insane mental ilness and although hormones are effective they are not a cure. This means hormones just arent enough for some people and they end up killing themselves either way.

I hope this post helped to alleviate some of the common misconceptions people have about trannies. I love all of you, gas the kikes race war now <3
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>>69802964
Better than snipping your dick off
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>>69802479
Why waste time? Just die now rather than spending time going through a time-consuming operation that is going to suck up your money, disappoint you, and disgust your family.
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>>69802488
I did make a point. How many of these "happy patients" are there compared to depressed and suicided post-op trannies? If these tests don't reflect reality, they don't really mean much, do they?

>>69802757
And how do you justify losing prostate sensitivity? Anal sex is the best kind of sex, if I had to choose between cumming from my ass or cumming from my penis I'd pick my ass every single time and I'm a straight guy.
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>>69801935
I absolutely hate my testicles and I want them removed.
It's asked a lot why care or do anything since you'll die anyway. Well I'm not dead yet, that's why.
>>69801953
I'm sorry jungle monkey I have no interest in harming others.
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>>69803172
Because I can't take money to the grave
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>>69803035
>references in description
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>>69802267
Yeah soon after transitioning. Ultimately they end up unhappy and depressed and are incredibly likely to kill themselves.

It's not a long term solution, if you can call it a solution at all. It's basically just a fad that will hopefully go away, for the sake of these sad lonely people who need some opportunistic doctors to give them a ridiculous diagnosis.

Honestly, this shit is basically gender ADHD
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>>69803211
Now you claim that published and peer reviewed academic studies are wrong, but cant back your claims with anything.
Your non-argument moved from saying I am wrong, and failing to prove it, to saying my citations are wrong, and failing to prove it.
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>>69803211
>Anal sex is the best kind of sex
I object, but I guess that's preference.

>>69803614
>Jenner, Jenner, Jenner, Pimozide, Mchugh, Pimozide, McHugh again.
Noice.
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>>69793542
>maybe i'll see you on the other side

imagine the eternal suffering this man would face if he did, i can't help but laugh.

>You are a very talented person and i know you made people happy
>only 2 likes

>Whatever you're going to do, stop
>only 1 like

Killing himself was worth it.
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>>69803715
>Ultimately they end up unhappy and depressed and are incredibly likely to kill themselves.
see
>>69803112
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i would dominate that degenerate with my huge english penis
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>>69790458
The future of the white race everybody!

Weak effeminate men!

Only God can save us
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>>69793542
Just a somber reminder that these people need psychological help
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>>69791988
You haven't met me yet then :)
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>>69804052
If you have a point you should probably make it desu
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>>69803838
Listen nigga, I ain't going through a hundred pages of pro-tranny propaganda to write you a thesis on why your argument on 4chan is wrong. If we was having an argument bout Breivik and I whipped out his manifesto to say that hey, this guy is actually motherfucking E.T, would it be okay for me to expect you to read through all that shit and cite a bunch of sources to validate your ludicrious claim that this nigga ain't actually motherfucking E.T?
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>>69791916

There's a world of difference. One is simply man who utilizes a female identity, and the others are self-mutaliting wierdos who make you watch your pronouns and kill themselves all the time. They're usually fat truckers in their 50's with a lesbien fetish.
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>>69803715
>Yeah soon after transitioning. Ultimately they end up unhappy and depressed and are incredibly likely to kill themselves.
It's kind of like weddings. People spend years planning and organising them that after they're done they feel so fucking relived about it that they don't realise that they actually fucking hate the person they married.
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>>69804224
i literally made over 5 points in my long post but heres the proofs
http://www.jctejournal.com/article/S2214-6237%2815%2900049-6/abstract

>Hormone therapy in transgender adults is safe with provider supervision; A review of hormone therapy sequelae for transgender individuals

The point is the people who "transition" and kill themselves are usually doing it incredibly wrong with 0 to little medical supervision
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Aren't all the stats on post-op suicide very old and before all this "acceptance" stuff
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>>69803524
You want your family to pay for your funeral then? Or just want to be buried in a ditch?
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>>69804494
>i have no argument, but i am still right!!!!

I accept your surrender.
Next time when someone brings up published and reviewed studies, and you cant discredit them, just close the tab.
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>>69799469
gender dysphoria is no excuse to turn yourself into a medical experiment.
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>>69804708
for most people with gender dysphoria its either take hormones or kill yourself. The most basic and primal human instinct is the need for survival. Are you unironically saying these people shouldnt attempt to stay alive? How silly.
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>>69801413
Lol, any more comics like this?
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>>69792774
Clearly we didn't drop enough napalm

>>69793542
>>69794038
>mfw
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>>69804513
And I think you'll probably end up killing yourself too

if it wasn't immediately obvious
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>>69803112
>anecdotal evidence
IF you have taken statistics , and weren't a dumb fucking tranny. You would realize trannies have a higher suicide rate than others which in case means if you transition then there is a higher risk of you becoming suicidal.
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>>69804637
I don't care nigga they are rich as fuck
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>>69794668
This guy does have an extremely punchable face
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>>69803168
I bet you sleep at night thinking people actually do that ;-)))
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>>69805041
>>anecdotal evidence
oh?
http://www.jctejournal.com/article/S2214-6237%2815%2900049-6/abstract

http://www.jctejournal.com/article/S2214-6237%2815%2900049-6/abstract

http://www.jctejournal.com/article/S2214-6237%2815%2900049-6/abstract

read it and weep
>>69804990
nope im actually so incredibly happy and content with my life its becoming a problem. nice projection tho ;)
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