Is it just me or is this guy plain retarded? He literally claims that mob justice is better than having police.
He's also saying that nationalists are worshipping the state.
>>69785981
>He's also saying that nationalists are worshipping the state
Well that might be kinda true.
I don't think he is a anarcho-capitalist libertarian anymore. He's more of a paleoconservative/nationalist now.
>>69786161
>>69786096
>>69785981
not an argument.
"There was an argument here. It's gone now."
>>69786096
It's more about culture and history, than the country with it's goverment.
>>69786230
Calling yourself a phylosopher every 5 seconds is even worse.
>>69785981
Freemarket "police" would most certainly exist. There would be social reprecussions from not upholding contracts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBY0bZWKehQ
Mob justice is literally DEMOCRACY
>>69786096
I don't worship the state. I think the state is a tool to secure our existence culturally to prevent a disintegration of our values by undermining French liberal poison and that the state should protect people from their own by propaganda means (If people don't know that drugs exist, they can't take them. Therefore all references to drugs should be censored.)
>>69786096
Yeah, take look at UK
Rotherham and the likes? Fuck, decades long abuse by THE FUCKING corrupted government and muslim police.
>>69786390
Or in other words
Democracy is LITERALLY mob justice.
NOT
>>69786390
Well, democracy kinda sucks. Listening to the people before you make a decision is good, but letting them make the decision is bad.
Most people don't have any kind of grasp on what effect will voting candidate X have.
>>69786561
an argument
>>69786454
If you do not have American style negative rights then your worship the state.
>>69785981
The police are an armed mob that works for the THEY who CONTROL THE GOVERNMENTS.
>>69785981
you are all misusing the world state, thats why.
i would worship a real state of white people not jew states of niggers and multiculturalism
>>69785981
>He literally claims that mob justice is better than having police.
No he doesn't.
Not an argument, faggot.
>implying a private contractor couldn't do a better job than the police
Statists are cancer tbqh
>>69786588
I agree , rule by the lowest denominator who breeds the most is stupidity and always ends in socialism with gib me data until collapses
>>69786619
No, the police is an armed mob who is making sure everyone is obeying the rules, even the politicians. If they started acting like the president's toy army you'd have a revolution on your hands.
>>69785981
>>69786810
They also make sure their monopoly on violence stays in place over actually enforcing the laws.
If anyone decides to finally post an argument ITT let me know
>>69786784
They could but it would only really work in a homogeneous society otherwise you would have police forces representing all the different groups and it would be hell. Not that I wouldn't mind taking out some kebab police men when they come after me for drawing a picture of muhammad
>>69786784
No, becoming an anarchist shithole doesn't mean you don't have to pay debnts olivenigger.
>>69787017
not an argument
>>69786903
Anarchism wouldn't work because it requires that all people have a basic understanding on why rules are needed to begin with. Which they don't and which is why we have them.
Some laws are stupid, but most are required for a functional society to work, which is not fully understood by the common voter/worker/proletarian/yourmother.
>>69786784
Hello debnts my old friend
>mfw reddit is bitchng about police killing dogs again
what a bunch of faggots, if there's a dog anywhere near a cop he has a right to kill it.
Of course he would like mob justice instead of the evil state. Just think how much power he would have if that was the case. With that many subscribers on his youtube channel he could control or influence a lot of people.
What is so ironic with that is he says that "the state is just a entity of force" or something like that. All the while he is making him self a figure that commands a lot of people to do mob justice. Does he not see his own shadow here?
I articulate this badly but you understand what i mean right? He says the state is bad because its an entity of force. While the same time he preaches that he wants mob mentality and he has a big mob that serves and follows him. Seems him self is just out for power. But is blind to it him self.
Dude is mentally damaged in some way. Getting cult vibes from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcS-NglyU3M
>>69787078
Did you DEFOO yet and threaten your parents for spanking you?
>>69787250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqSZhwu1Rwo
>>69786096
Showing loyalty to your country and culture isn't inherently worshiping the government itself. Most patriots defend the US because it's where their family lives and they grew up here, they don't give two shits about Washington.
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>>69787250
ye na where does he ever say he wants control over a group of people?
>>69786096
Nationalists mostly don't think of the state as the government, but as the people for which the state supposedly represents.
>>69785981
HOW CAN I HAVE ONE SHRED OF DIGNITY, IF I POST IN A THREAD WHERE THE OP WANTS ME SHOT?! ARE YOU THAT SICK?!?!
GIVE ME MY FREE (you)'s FOR NOT STATING AN ARGUMENT!
JUST
>>69787337
Norway fag , your whole country and it's neighbors are literally that guy.
Keep surrendering to Victory for diversity.
His more recent videos he's praising European culture and talks about securing borders. He still derides state corruption and occasionally talks like a libertarian but it seems like he's more like a Faragist/paleoconservative nowadays. I can't put my finger on that accent it's a bizarre mix of slightly Irish/British at times and other times it sounds slightly Belgian/French. It's weird. I'm not sure if it's put on.
>>69787533
Just because he don't say it don't mean thats is not what he wants to do. I don't think that the Government explicitly says they want to control people either.
Certainly his talks about his viewers needs to talk to their families about certain matters is trying to influence them. Where goes the difference between influencing people and controlling them? The Quran doesn't control people either, neither does the teachers that teach and interprets the Quran, they just say what it says and the readers make up their own minds, but of course they know what the unspoken assumption etc. That is just an example. You get the point
>>69787337
Stefan Molyneux is a very smart guy but in his debate with the minarchist he says since early America was a minarchist state and developed into what it is today how can we trust minarchism. Yet how would you prevent a similar issue with anarchism. Also as OP said it's why I prefer minarchism over anarchism.
>>69788040
taxes enforced by cops with guns = control
spreading ideas is not control
>>69787250
sub 100 iq detected. He preaches that the initiation of force is evil just like slavery is evil because of the use of force and rape as well. There's a lot of prediction of what a free society looks like but that's all it is, prediction. It's like trying to predict what society would look like after slavery. It doesn't really matter because it's immoral, just don't do it. ps wtf Norway? Suckling on mother Norway's welfare nipple too much. faggot
>>69787922
PRESENT
>>69785981
he is a legend in his own mind.
>>69788285
>>69788239
The state isn't holding anyone at gun point, faggot. You can leave whenever you like, if you don't wanna pay taxes.
>>69786345
We already have free market police. They're called gangs.
You should say "not an argument" in a discussion you are having with someone, it's like they crash
>>69788448
why do I need to leave my property if I don't want to pay taxes?
>>69788556
I actually use it against people who use fallacies and ad hominem attacks against me. They just freeze up as I repeat it. I then explain why it's not an argument and they give up.
One thing Stef does great is that he doesn't let unargued points go unoticed, so he picks up on bias real quickly. It also conditions the opponent to pick up his game and put together a cohessive argument.
>>69788416
Look at lot of internet autist dislike him. He's not 100% right. Especially on the matter of Christianity. But his recent stuff is gold.
>>69785981
>He's also saying that nationalists are worshipping the state.
Nationalist are, they are only nominally religious in any other way except nation worship.
Nations are just something that exists in people's heads and does not have a real physical reality, so nationalism relies on a certain faith except that it can be proven to just be a invented thing.
>>69788448
>Choosing who points a gun at your head
>>69788448
You live in a different country and no you can't if you're a USA citizen. It takes about 3 years and 8,000 dollars to renounce your USA citizenship now thinks Obama. If you don't do that they well chase for every bit of income you get .
>>69788760
>>69788285
the freedom is strong
>>69788777
Aaaah... Democracy at it's finest!
>>69785981
Police don't deal justice, they refer criminals to courts who do. I literally just hopped the border yesterday and barely speak fragmented English, my only job skill is cleaning toilets and the stupidity of this man makes me seem a neuroscientist by comparison
>>69789140
>refer criminals
>have guns
>shoot people sometimes
m8 i r8 8/8 4 ur b8
>>69789260
Anybody can defend their lives with lethal force, not just police.
>>69789309
there is a major difference between defending yourself and imposing your will on others through the threat of violence
>>69788239
>taxes enforced by cops with guns = control
>using legal matters to enforce people to remove content from their youtube channels = control
>spreading ideas is not control
Of course not, that is not my point either. Spreading implications for behavior goes in to the realm of influence. You don't ever have to tell people directly what to do, you just have to convince people what the best thing to do is and they will do it on their own accord.
>>69788285
>He preaches that the initiation of force is evil just like slavery
His ideas about use of force is deluded and does not work in reality.
>There's a lot of prediction of what a free society looks like but that's all it is, prediction.
Its a stupid utopian dream.
>>69788660
Because you agreed to do it you dumb fuck
>>69789594
>you just have to convince people what the best thing to do is and they will do it on their own accord
people aren't responsible for their own actions?
>>69789456
Police answer to the same courts composed of peers as others. They can't lay you down and shoot you execution style because they feel it's just and not answer to the courts and a jury for it.
Police don't enact justice, courts do. Police maintain order.
>>69789732
please refer to
>>69789456
Nationalists do worship the state; they're edgy Communists.
>>69789685
buttblasted eurotrash detected
>>69789778
I should have just referred to pic related
>>69788137
anarchism = 0 state
minarchism = state > 0
anarchism * 200 state power = 0
minarchism * 200 state power = 200minarchism
>>69789905
not an argument
ty for playing
>>69789731
You really need to stop being a dumb turd.
>people aren't responsible for their own actions?
People can not be manipulated and fooled in to doing this? Bro, there is no point in furthering this conversation when you are gonna nitpick on small things as this and feel you made any point. And if you do not understand how influence and manipulation work then you should go and read up on that.
>>69789835
Not an argument.
>>69785981
He makes SOME good points, he has been pretty spot on lately. Same with Alex Jones, has some good points even though he is a jack ass, he is LITERALLY the worst reporter for Info Wars.
>>69785981
>Not a single argument against Robo-cop
>>69788036
With regards to the accent, he was raised in England until he was a teenager then moved to Canada
>not a single argument in the entire thread
>>69790377
people can be manipulated/influenced, but they are responsible for their own actions.
so what you're saying is that i'm trying to control you right now by giving you my ideas and influencing the way you think?
ONE
>>69785981
mob justice is very democratic.
if democracy is your thing then mob justice is better than police.
>>69791078
go home
>>69790827
Didn't he also live in South Africa and Ireland for a little while? It's certainly reflected in his accent.
>>69788036
He's like a lot of E-celebs, he'll change his opinion to gain the biggest potential market share. Ours is a growing demographic, so you'll start to see more of these e-celebs pander to us.
>>69785981
I will say it again. Only stupid housewife and people with two digit IQ support this dude
It's a bird?
It's a plane?
well, it's sure not an argument
