Should the theory of evolution be taught in schools?
>>69783529
Creationist here. Yes it should. It is a science class not a religion class, so teach what science teaches.
>>69783529
Should Swedes still be allowed to post here? I don't know, man.
>>69783619
Evolutionist here. No it shouldn't. It's mostly based on assumptions. The only reason it's so popular is because there is no other theory than God creating everything
Then what should be taught in a science class, if not evolution
>>69783875
meant to link you in this post>>69783875
>>69783753
Are you retarded?
>>69783753
You are retarded aren't you anon?
It is completely backed up by "facts" as are all "theories." While the only thing to ever back up god is a poorly written book.
But you are bait so my reply is cancer.
Yes. It is a reasonable model, supported by what we can currently see and test. If something better comes along then switching over or incorporating it into our overall understanding makes sense.
>>69783529
Isn't it already?
>>69783753
We literally made it happen in a controlled sandbox when we domesicated farm animals.
>>69784050
what "facts"?
>>69784346
I'm here wondering the same. I had evolution taught me at school 10 years ago when I was 14.
>>69785279
legit lol
>>69783875
how to avoid degeneracy and subdue the jew
>>69783529
You know what should be taught in schools? ALMOST ANYTHING OTHER THAN FUCKING NOTHING. FUCK.
>>69785152
you know all those experiments with cross breeding. Fossils indicating the genetic change in species, the structure of a specie having a common specialties with its close relatives and such. Tbh if you actually read a book on morphology . evolution you would see that we live in the 21st century and science of biology have come a long way
>>69783529
Yes. As a Christian, I know that the Genesis Hebrew mythology has no relevance to my faith.
>>69783529
Should we teach the theory of gravity in physics?
>>69783529
Abrahamic schools should teach their flock that sky fairies in the holy lands are their masters and not even mention evolution, that's blasphemy.
Public schools should teach their flocks regular science.
Home school parents can teach whatever they want.
People not having children should be exempt from funding any of it.
>>69786502
How dare you say something so racist. As expect of a nazi.
no, state funded education is socialism
>>69783529
why teach evolution on schools it does not build rockets ,and it has evidence what fits in a coffin
>>69787075
>this model predicts that animals have no genetic limitations and given enough time, anything can turn into anything
That person has no fucking clue what evolution is.
>>69787149
they have found dinosaurs from million years ago, and they cant find any fossil with a sea horse,, or a catfish
oh look guys we found a dragon total proof of evolution am i right
>>69787427
[Citation needed]
Not everything fossilises, and fossilisation has many requirements that need to be met.
What you posted doesn't even disprove evolution.
>>69783875
How to manufacture zyklon B
>>69783529
>should facts be taught in school
>>69783529
Sure... it's established scientific fact.
It's not going to affect anyone on this board, though, because all they do is deny science and reality. global warming, evolution, out of africa theory, the truth about "race" and genetics. The truth means nothing to people here. It's a safe space for retards.
>>69790786
> the truth about "race" and genetics.
Please tell me more about how we are all equal (which is a non scientific christian born concept) and then claim we are the creationists.
of course, shouldn't even be a question
>>69791198
http://www.nature.com/index.html?file=/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1455.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2271140/
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.10079/abstract;jsessionid=F7CE43E76C6B6AF7D965CF1A2F1C7E34.f02t03
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707610015
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1435.html
http://www.nature.com/index.html?file=/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1436.html
http://www.nature.com/index.html?file=/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1455.html
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2739576?sid=21105479746581&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739904&uid=3739256
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14655871
>>69783529
Wait, are there places where it isn't studied in school?
>>69791271
Can you argument your stance ? I opened the first ncbi link and its just political nonsense
>>69790786
You're a pussy.
How much do we contribute (and by we I mean JUST THE USA) to the excess co2 in our atmosphere that's causing this climate change?
>>69791464
>Can you argument your stance
Yes I can "argument my stance.
Science is not about arguing. It's about presenting evidence. You can'y bullshit people in science. If you don't understand that you have no business talking about science. None of it is "political bullshit."
>>69791645
China produces the most total, but the US produces the most per capita by far.
>>69791441
America, I believe so.
>>69791676
>he's literally "argumening" his stance at the behest of Argentina
Good Lord.
>>69783753
Atheist here. Evolution should be taught in religious education exclusively, it's not called the THEORY of evolution for nothing.
>>69792013
You hear the same thing from any poltard or stormfront member: They don't want to read/don't know how to read the evidence.
>>69791676
The evidence you presented doesnt disprove that human groups have different genes, "None of it is "political bullshit" you clearly didnt even read your links, there are political statements like "what's apropiate"
You didn't even try writting what you are trying to prove, you just fished up some irrelevant papers submitted to pubmed.
Please tell me more about human biology mr humanities major.
>>69792093
That's what happens when Big Oil pumps millions of dollars into brainwashing conservatives into sucking corporate dick.
>>69792114
>The evidence you presented doesnt disprove that human groups have different genes,
That exactly what it does. You didn't read it.
>>69792087
Do you know what the term "theory" even means?
>>69786302
>fossils
what is the great flood
> indicating the genetic change in species
sauce?
>>69792271
I don't even know what the term "term" means.
>>69792181
>That exactly what it does.
Are you actually fucking iliterate or just trolling? please tell me your level of education, I want to know what makes you think you're qualified to talk about human biology with a medical practitioner.
>>69783529
In the US they're teaching children that Moses was a founding father. Who gives a shit about evolution if we've now proven the country was founded by religion itself.
>>69783753
>evolutionist here
>>69792271
theory is just a theory, not law.
you don't hear "theory of supply and demand" do you?
>>69792285
>what is the great flood
Dunno, but can't your Mom just stop it with a tampon or something?
Yes.
It should be taught in churches as well. In fact, evolution should be incorporated into the true third stage of Judeo-Christian beliefs. If you don't believe in evolution, it's unlikely your idea of God is accurate.
>>69786899
well kek'd my fellow leaf
So I totally believe in micro evolution, but I am not completely sold on macro evolution. Is there real evidence of this?
>>69783529
Yes. Even though it's mostly based on assumptions, it's the best guess we have so far. But the scientific community shouldn't just accept it as absolute fact, and should instead be critical of it and develop other intelligent theories as well.
>>69792522
>I totally believe in micro evolution
Heresy.
>>69792494
>believe in evolution
>believe
this is science, people. believing, not proving.
next time you tell me science is about believing aliens exist.
>>69792402
You fucking moron, all scientific theories are called 'theories' in the event that they might be revised in the future.
Only a complete, absolute, total fucking retard uses the argument that "hurr durr evolution isn't true it's just a theory."
Gravity is also just a theory you intellectually bankrupt piece of shit, do you also deny the existence of gravity on the grounds that it's just a theory?
>>69792522
>So I totally believe in micro evolution, but I am not completely sold on macro evolution.
>I believe in bricks but not in buildings
>>69792598
Well, we actually have seen evolution in front of our very eyes. Particularly with species that we have created, like dogs.
Evolutionist AND Priest here.
No it shouldn't its just a theory with no objective evidence.
But then again they teach a lot of stupid worthless shit in schools anyways
>>69792402
Gravity is just a theory too :^)
>>69792670
>Gravity is also just a theory you intellectually bankrupt piece of shit, do you also deny the existence of gravity on the grounds that it's just a theory?
then why is gravity NOT a law?
>>69783753
>It's mostly based on assumptions.
You mean like how we use evolution to breed neural nets to get tasks done for us?
>>69792670
>scientific theories are called 'theories' in the event that they might be revised in the future.
>revised in the future
So scientists know their theories aren't sound and have lingering doubt?
>tfw even scientists know their theories are complete bullshit and will need to be revised time and again
>Replying to a blatant bait thread
sage
>>69792402
Whoever taught you science did a bad job.
A theory is the pinnacle of science. Theories are not upgraded to laws.
>>69791271
FUCKING
REKT
>>69792820
We still don't know 100% how it works. There's no real reason for gravity to exist, it just does.
>>69783529
Obviously. What other reasonable explanation is there?
>>69792522
there is none it is literally in the bible 13 times
24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
> after his kind
genesis is full with that for a reason , dont get foold by macro evolution guys
http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/1.htm
>>69792522
>I believe in cell proliferation in embrios but I'm not completely sold on tissue formation in fetuses
That's how stupid you sound, literally a yemeni arab goat herder tier of obliviousness, which is sad because you live in the most technologically advanced country on earth.
>>69783529
Yeah, I'm Christian and a fisheries scientist. Evolutionary theory provides a good example of non theological scientific theory based in observable history via fossil records among other things. At the very least it's a great tool to teach kids how to logically and critically think about science in relation to nature.
>>69792714
Yes, but it's still a major jump to go from dogs becoming other types of dogs to fish becoming human. You have to assume that what you see in a microcosm is what you will see in a macrocosm.
You have to assume that our standards of measurement and observation are adequate to gauge billions of years, even though no one's lived that long to test that.
Evolution is a LOGICAL ASSUMPTION and should be treated as such. Am I denying that it is a viable explanation? NO. All you people who say it is a "proven fact" need to provide solid evidence as to why evolution is a fact. Dont just go off the assumption that because Micro evolution is irrefutable it leads to Macro evolution is irrefutable.
What if there are limitations to the genetic variations? Oh and by the way, Macro evolution is supposed to take effect over THOUSANDS OF YEARS so even if it is true you will never provide evidence in your lifetime nor can you know that Macro evolution is a FACT.
Kids learn it. But for some reason they think that the changes animals went through we're out of necessity. Not random mutations. I'm a high school substitute teacher and when this comes up I hear things like "the reason we have eyes is because we needed them and over a few generations we grew them." Also from pro evolutionary theory students I hear the "we came from monkeys" maymay a lot.
>>69792976
>theory
>not law
oy vey!
>>69792753
Real priest here. Evolution should be taught everywhere nonstop 24/7 as a way to incur God's wrath and fasttrack the apolalypse and thus be united with God again.
Only a false priest would disagree. Nice try, Hitlersatan.
>>69792522
They are literally the same thing over different scales.
Literally. Not even figuratively.
You know that "micro evolution" exists, and a whole bunch of those make a "macro evolution" same process.
There is an insane amount of peer reviewed evidence available to look at it you want to. But to be fair, I'm not a biologist, if you have these questions and are serious about finding answers ask one.
Also, no there is no fucking conspiracy, the biologists believe it because it is backed up by all available evidence.
In before an example of a special snowflake biologist or da j00z
>>69792878
You are special, aren't you?
They call them theories IN THE POSSIBLE EVENT OF them being revised.
>>69792820
See >>69792976.
Should the theory of gravity be taught in schools?
>See the post
>See OPs flag
wtf sweden. On the hand, Sweden is full of moon god's worshippers so I shouldn't be surprised
>>69792878
Confirmed for retarded. It's because they don't want to say their model is absolute if adjustments might be necessary in the future, because they're not arrogant enough to claim it's absolute.
>>69792653
A thing can be believed or disbeleved despite being proven or disproven. Knowledge and belief are not mutually exclusive, a justified true belief is still a belief.
In my opinion, disbelieving that God's will is in the laws of the universe as created in the big bang is having an immature understanding of God. These laws include evolution, which (as an unjustified, possibly untrue belief) necessary tends towards creatures capable of understanding reality and conversing about reality. The birth of the ubermensch, the being born enlightened, is prophecy.
>>69793034
Additionally, is it such a stretch that God included evolution in his design?
No. It, much like math, is a THEORY [a guess].
Kids should only be taught facts.
I need to coin an internet law for how long into a conversation about religion and science it takes for fedora tippers to start talking about Galilleo. Ill call it "Urbans Law" in honor of that pope.
>Mfw I can feel it happening...
>>69783529
>clearly this is not bait
Obviously it should it is fundamental to our understanding of biology and pathology
>>69793088
The Law of Thermodynamics should still probably be called a theory, we're still learning about it. It's not completely infallible, because it's still not 100% proven, and it never will be.
>>69793151
If they really were sure of their findings, they wouldn't need to incorporate a semantic failsafe in order to save face when people find out they're full of shit.
Unless """""scientists""""" are willing to come up with the Fact of Evolution, I'll continue to dismiss their childish positions as spiritual esotericism.
>>69793005
>If its in the bible its true!!!!
What is it like to be retarded?
>>69792087
The earth rotating around the sun = theory.
>>69792651
Bro micro evolution is proven beyond a doubt and we can test it today
>>69793224
>>69792878
>So scientists know their theories aren't sound and have lingering doubt?
>What is empiricism
It's not that we aren't basically certain of the truth of a theory, it's that, philosophically speaking, we can't actually point to one, inherently knowable thing and say "LOOK! This is the truth behind the theory!"
Like, gravity is a theory, but that doesn't mean it's not essentially a fact. It's only just a theory because it's not actually a "thing" in itself (like, there's no "atom" of gravity that we can capture and say "look, this is how gravity works!"), but rather just the description of a series of natural processes which can say with 99.99% certainty is the fucking truth.
>tl;dr, read a fucking book you goddamn Germanic pleb
>>69793202
>Canada calling others retarded
The irony. Canada is basically the New Zealand of the northern hemisphere.
>>69792994
>There's no real reason for gravity to exist
science isn't about why it exists, but how it behaves. gravity's behavior is still not completely explained.
the bible does explain it, where the earth "hangs on nothing". that's something science cannot even fathom.
>>69792696
That is not a sound analogy at all. Micro evolution can be tested and macro can't.
>>69793457
Canada will soon be the new Belgium or Paris. ;)
>>69793165
>not answering the question
this much jewish tactics. on /pol/ of all boards.
>>69793485
>that's something science cannot even fathom.
Einstein had no problem fathoming it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuwoHQHCm84
i repeat to their kind is it not so that animals cant breed anymore because they are restricted. sure sounds like macro evolution to me guys how can it evolve if it cant even breed
>>69793488
It doesn't need to be tested because macro-evolution IS micro-evolution on a larger scale.
The second you believe in micro-evolution, you also believe in macro-evolution.
>>69793457
This post makes zero fucking sense. You should be ashamed of yourself Hans.
>>69793485
Why is the bible more important than everything else though? When it comes down to it, it's just a book.
>>69792820
There is a law of gravitational attraction which is a part of the larger theory of gravity. The theory includes observations about planets masses and orbits, you know, facts.
>>69793231
Guess all these weird fossils of extinct but similar creatures is nothing to think about.
>>69793447
>Empiricism
Now that you mention it, it's pretty funny that these people are literally centuries behind in knowledge.
>>69793355
>If they really were sure of their findings, they wouldn't need to incorporate a semantic failsafe in order to save face when people find out they're full of shit.
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.[1][2][3][4] Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[5]
get fucked, tard
>>69793348
you disprove it then. you don't wait for somebody else to do the burden of work for you.
>>69793621
it does explain """"""scientists""""" cannot even explain.
>>69793046
>>69793367
you do read what it says infidel
>>69793612
I'm playing both sides here, you dense cunt.
Hahahahahhaah
>>69783529
Europeans are so blue pilled man, if evolution is real where are the in between species? How come we can't find any fossils for that?
>>69787075
Does not make rockets but it creates some fine algorithms
>>69793632
>he pasted his lame answer from a Wikipedia article because he cannot from a coherent thought of his own
lmao
>>69783753
Are you ignorant or just apathetic?
>>69793706
Such as?
Bullshit just like all the other science which was widely believed by the scientific community and disproven decades or centuries later.
It's just the hot stuff right now. Who knows what might come next.
>>69793706
It doesn't explain anything though, it just provides theories. Most of these theories have been disproved.
The Earth is more than 6000 years old.
Noah didn't put 2 of every animal on a giant boat.
The Jews weren't slaves in Egypt.
Every piece of evidence has to be backed by facts, and the Bible doesn't back up shit.
>>69792522
Yes, the Jews say it is so so it is so. Why would you deny it? Are you a retarded Republican or something? Why can't Americans be like cultured, educated Europeans?
>>69793943
>Noah didn't put 2 of every animal on a giant boat.
Uh, were you there?
Didn't think so.
>>69793801
the fucking gravity that still remains a theory and not law because """"scientists"""" cannot completely explain its behavior. but the bible was able to completely.
again, its "the planets hanging on nothing".
>>69793943
Except science is literally always wrong. Everything we believe will be disproven I a 100 years and everyone will laugh at how dumb we were. The Bible though always comes out as being fact, remember when scientists discovered sea shells on the Himalayas? Well what a coincidence that the Bible also mentions that there was a great flood.
>>69783529
> Coming from Svensko
Are you really THIS cucked now? For real?
>>69793985
We can trace our routes back 6000 years without much difficulty. There would have been some sort of evidence that it happened.
>>69793997
The theory of gravity is a JOKE.
First there's Newton with his "theory", 200 years later there comes Albert "Turboshill" Einstein and presents HIS """"""theory""""", and his supporters lap it up like a dog.
In 50 years we'll have yet another new """""theory""""" of gravity and all these hipster cucks shilling for Einstein will drop him harder than an AIDS-ridden crack whore.
>>69793997
>The bible can completely explain gravity
Ah yes I remember the portion of the bible that dealt with planetary orbits being a result of an unseen but powerful force.
Oh no wait, the church believed for hundreds of years that Aristotle's glass spheres was the correct model for the universe because they're fucking retards
>>69793997
>Bible able to explain gravity behaviour
Yes, I really loved the part of the Bible where God gives the universal gravitational constant to moses
>>69794132
>We can trace our routes back 6000 years
Oh really. Then, pray, tell me where YOU'VE been 5349 years ago if you're so good at tracking?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
>>69794109
Explain why planes dont fall off the sky and how are we even having this conversation if science is always wrong?
>>69794109
No it's not, most of the major theories have stood the test of time, like gravity.
how can you beleive in evolution if it is just a theory (a geuss)?
>>69793997
Filipinos are the most red pilled race on the planet, I'm talking to a Filipino girl she thinks women should be punished for having abortions, supports Trump 100%, I completely support you guys coming here even if you're too loud sometimes.
>>69794171
>Aristotle
some fucking useless """"scientist""" just like anyone else.
opinion invalid.
>>69783529
you don't teach it in sweden?
here in germany we teach evolution as part of the biology class. in religion class we learn about Genesis.
>>69793538
>>69793997
Your question is based on the misconception that theories become laws.
Theories incorporate laws.
A law is the mathematical description of WHAT has been observed (see Newton's law of gravitation that describes the attraction of masses). A scientific theory on the other hand is a framework that explains HOW gravity works (see Einstein's general relativity on curved space-time).
>>69794245
>Explain why planes dont fall off the sky and how are we even having this conversation if science is always wrong?
Phenomena exist without science and will continue to exist without science. Science was """""invented""""" to make sense of the observed phenomena, but it isn't a prerequisite for the existence of phenomena in general.
>people saying Newtownian gravity is false.
It's incomplete retards
>>69793795
I showed you an accurate, dictionary definition of a theory. That is not indicative of lac of thought, which is ironic, coming from someone who doesn't believe in evolution
>>69794245
>implying science (explaining how shit happens) has anything to do with why planes and skies don't fall.
>>69794233
I meant as a species. We can find fossils, cave drawings, old dwellings ect.
>>69793717
This analogy is silly. Changing the letter size, color or font is still microevolution. It is changing within its species. Just like there are several types of wolves, from arctic to regular.
Macroevolution would be changing the letters to something else completely, such as drawings.
A sea bacteria can become a different type of bacteria, but it can't become human, like "scientists" claim.
>>69794171
>Aristotle's
Aristotle? The guy who said women had fewer teeth than man? Yeah what a great thinker
lmao
>>69783529
Are you rertarded trashkid?
Babbe?
>>69794245
I should have specified that I meant scientific theories. It's basically just scientists pulling fake facts from their ass for some sweet government funding.
>>69794250
Gravity is just common sense but scientists can't answer how because they'd rather tip their fedoras than accept God made it that way.
>>69794381
>Wikipedia
>dictionary
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>69794394
>I meant as a species
Ah yes, and the backpedaling begins
>>69794279
>ever taking a woman's opinion
t. betacuck
>>69794109
Ok, sure. When you get cancer, don't bother going in for chemotherapy, since it's based off things "that are wrong." Just pray to God, I'm sure that'll help magic the cancer away!
>>69794491
So you support Abortion? If a woman is right she's right, there's nothing more to it.
>>69794442
>gravity common sense
Everything about it goes against common sense
>>69793717
using a inteligent design example vs random evolution top kek
>>69783753
>based on assumptions
The only assumption that can be made here is that you're a complete retard
>>69793985
its fucking impossible.
i think evolution is 'true', but scientists don't actually understand the mechanism behind it because they're not crazy enough to. evolution is a decision in the same way that humans consciously and intentionally grow from small kid to big adult, the same way a person might pick up a glass of water with his hand.
it's a mistake to think that anything life does is unintentional; life can not act without intention. and where life ends and begins, is as good of a question as, 'where does the universe end and begin'. evolution is just a man picking up a glass of water with his hands and drinking it.
anyone who uses the bible for anything but inspiration is just stupid. anyone who uses science for anything but inspiration is just unimaginative, and i say that because at least science has rigor beyond the discipline required to take a biblecock up your buttcunt.
>>69794491
>voluntarily shutting yourself off from half of the world's opinions that provide ample opportunities for intellectual growth and challenge because you're too insecure in your own ideas to have them challenged by "dumb females"
t. willfully ignorant idiotcuck
>>69794509
Yeah, like that faggot faith healer Rod Parsley.
>Gets cancer
>Gets real medical treatment
He spends most of his shows trying to jew people out of $50 for prayer cloths.
>>69794403
Mutations are random and additive, there is no genetic policeman stopping animals from changing even more when they deviate too much from some idealistic template of their species.
>>69794448
And where do you think wikipedia gets its definitions from?
Nice backtracking you tard.
>>69794303
How can you be a scientist millenia before the invention of the scientific method ?
Dumb fucking jungle coon.
>>69794393
I forgot that the bible had schematics for all aircraft in circulation, my mistake!
>>69794363
Ah yes the natural occuring phenomena of airplanes, nothing to do with science, they are just trying to explain how they work!
>>69794509
Cancer can almost always be prevented by living a healthy wholesome life, take care of Gods creation (your body) and chances are you'll live a long and healthy life. Sometimes that's not the case, and if it's your time to go it's your time to go, who am I to argue with the will of God?
>>69794635
Uhuh, call me when that's observed, mr. ape.
>>69794565
>everything about keeping us flat on the ground instead of floating off to space goes against common sense
t. Italian intellectuals
>>69794467
Were you there when Jesus was around? Well then, you can't really prove to me that he existed.
>>69793051
>Dont just go off the assumption that because Micro evolution is irrefutable it leads to Macro evolution is irrefutable.
>micro evolution
>hundreds of millions of years
>?????
>macro evolution
is it that hard to understand?
>>69794599
>women
>intellectual growth
your dubs has to be a lie.
>>69794727
Speciation has been observed, faggot:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html
>>69794586
>its fucking impossible.
Uh, how? Everyone knows ships were MUCH bigger back then, today's ships have shrunk due to inflation (blame the Jews)
>>69794670
From retards on /pol/. Literally worthless, no wonder you regard it as a source of great authority. lmao
>>69794682
Airplanes imitate the flight of birds, which was a gift given to them by God. No science needed here.
>>69794776
Jesus exists with or without your ignorance.
>>69794776
Were you there when Hitler was around? Well then, you can't really prove to me that he existed.
>>69783753
>Evolutionist here
top kek
>>69794882
it's fucking impossible.
u troll
>>69794765
Oh right, it's not totally against common sense that objects of different weight fall at the same speed. It's not against common sense that the gravity field is Conservative. It's not against common sense that gravity is the space being twisted.
If you do not know what you are talking about, stay silent
>>69783529
>theory
>>69794688
Why do you think God gave the world chemotherapy in the first place?
>tfw OP is Ahmed and it's mad Evolution is taught in schools
>>69794842
I thought you had to be 18 to post on this site?
>>69794983
Nothing exploding and creating life so you can shitpost 500 billion years later is also impossible but atheists will accept that without question.
>>69795049
Because he was worried the growth on your mom's butt might overshadow His beautiful creation.
>>69783529
Yes, as a theory, just like religious education should be taught, as a theory.
In fact combine them into one lesson, Theory.
>>69795096
>Australia
>thinking
I guess the shitposting never ends.
>>69783753
>It's mostly based on assumptions.
All of science presumes that
>reality exists
>logic applies to it
>mathematics as an extension of logic explain it
Those are all assumptions that we've made. Protip: that doesnt invalidate all of science.
You can assume that this glass of water in front of you indeed exists, and indeed contains water, without running 200 experiments with a control group.
>>69794688
Cancer is an inevitable aspect of DNA replication, you can have the luck of dying before you get it but all long lived organism will develop cancer at some point regardless of preventive meassures.
Why do you even bother typing the word cancer if you don't actually know what cancer is beyond word from mouth of equally unqualified simpletons?
>>69794882
>wikipedia gets its soure from /pol/
Holy fuck you are stupid
>Airplanes imitate the flight of birds
No they don't. When was the last time you saw a plane flap its wings?
>>69795154
>you
>thinking
I guess being a retard is incurable
>>69795145
>A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.
Yeah, but really it should be like 2-3 lessons in primary school Science class, it's not something worth dedicating a lot of time to outside of specialized Biology classes in highschool.
>>69794997
Is this how your average pizza nigger acts? You should drive down to the Vatican and learn some facts instead of learning from the Jews, who by the way don't even believe what they preach!
>>69795049
So that young people may live longer so that they may fulfil their duty to have and raise children.
>>69795331
>So that young people may live longer so that they may fulfil their duty to have and raise children.
Alright, I'm not even sure what you're arguing at this point.
You're a weird fucker. I hope something works out for you.
>>69795097
no, that's not impossible.
it is extremely possible that something came from nothing, in fact its the most ancient theory of reality - ovum ex nihilio. dates back to before recorded history. it's actually more of the concept that it never HAD a beginning, the ancients would have thought the idea of the universe 'beginning' merely amusing.
but it's totally fucking impossible to put 2 of every animal on a boat. we might be living in a simulation, god might exist, aliens might have created us, the universe might just be an atom in a larger universe, this might all be the dream of a dust particle, shapeshifting lizards from planet X might rule earth, but putting 2 of every animal on a boat is fucking impossible.
>>69795190
I agree with you, cancer is inevitable past a certain point, but it can still be kept at bay for longer by taking care of your body.
>>69783753
Are you retard?
Seriously evolution is a proven fact.
>but it's a theory
Go swallow a bottle pills
>>69795194
>Let's transfer the way birds displace air to an inanimate object so it can take to the air like birds too. Oh, but let's slightly change the process and call it science! Haha stupid God, he's so easy to trick xDDDD
>>69794727
>>69794403
Ahmed Evolution is a simple fact. Of course for Evolution of multicelular organism to happen there needs to be a large amount of time, usually in the thousands-million of years, probably less for more minute changes. Evolution never stops, it's a constant but the changes are small in a human lifespan but over generations you start to see its effect.
>>69795186
>reality exists
are they not already saying that it does not
>>69783529
The most important things to teach in school are useful skills and knowledge that allow one to live successfully in the currently existing society.
How does knowing evolutionary theory in any way improve one's ability to live successfully in our society?
On the other hand, how would learning how to balance a budget, think critically about advertising, cook a meal, or fix a car help one to live successfully?
These latter are actually useful knowledge, and yet they are not mandatory learning in our schools. Meanwhile evolutionary theory is essentially useless knowledge, and yet it is mandatory.
>>69795449
We need to ban Australian shitposters, open the bible for once in your life and listen to the word of God instead of the lies spread by Jews.
>>69795461
If an explosion can create life how come the bombs you dropped on Japan didn't increase their population? It's a moronic theory!
>>69795474
Thats not how planes fucking work and you entirely dodged my question
Planes don't "displace air" they work using airfoils that use a difference in pressure to generate lift.
>>69795561
Philosophers have been discussing the possibility since before we could write down thoughts.
Read a book, nigger.
>>69787075
>understanding how humans came to be is not important
Should we stop teaching history too because it happened in that past and stuff?
>>69795630
if a fucking leaf can spawn shitposts, how come orchards are artificially fertilized?
>>69795561
kill yourself.
>>69795474
He's Dutch, what do you expect from the most degenerate country in Europe?
>>69795463
You are a bible literalist, explain to me how did the people in the bible live centuries without developing cancer? it seems that the word of god is rather the word of primitive people with no idea of how life works.
"God did it" is not valid since there is no explanation in the bible of why he did that and why did he stop.
>>69795713
If an American can grow to 500 pounds, how come we have a global food crisis?
>>69795331
No this is the average human should reply to retarded statements. You showed you have no clue of how gravity works, yet you feel like you are entitled to write about your terrible ideas.
You are no different from retard sjw redditors. The only thing that changes is the field you are ignorant of.
>>69795615
You do not get to dictate what is and isn't useful knowledge. Everything you just listed as "useful" are things your parents teach you, so your school doesn't have to.
>>69795630
Hirohima today has about three times the population it had before the bombing.
>>69792181
>different human groups don't have different genes
Are you really arguing that every human being on Earth is genetically identical anon? as I may not be the brightest man on Earth, but that sounds dubious.
>>69795714
I'm an expat, actually.
>what do you expect from the most degenerate country in Europe?
>implying canada can call others degenerate
>>69795630
>We need to ban Australian shitposters, open the bible for once in your life and listen to the word of God instead of the lies spread by Jews.
Been there, done that. Hell I'm not even an atheist, but to take everything you read in the Bible at face-value not only undermines what the Bible actually is, but is to more or less cut yourself off from understanding as much of God's creation as you can because you're irrationally afraid of Hell. Newsflash kid: You're not going to be sent to the lake of fire for being open to the idea that human knowledge can adequately explain for more of the world than you were indoctrinated to believe.
>>69795630
>If an explosion can create life how come the bombs you dropped on Japan didn't increase their population? It's a moronic theory!
what if we keep using small nukes then we can create a universe in a universe
>>69787075
>mule
>natural
Mules can't mate m8, they are sterile and can produce no offspring. They are only made by having a horse fuck a donkey, something that is extremely rare in nature.
>>69783529
Private schools should be teaching whatever the fuck they want.
>>69795774
Why does there have to be an explanation as to why God does something? Why do the seasons change? Wouldn't it be better if we could harvest fruit all year instead of suffering from long cold winters? That's just the way things are.
>>69783753
>all these responses
>pol is this bluepilled
kek, at least take freshman biology before you faggots talk out your ass.
>>69795664
no thanks jew not falling for your tricks
>>69795939
>Why do the seasons change?
Wait, you actually do not know the answer? Have you ever been to a school?
>>69795695
>history repeats itself
actually I'm leaning on yes.
>>69795939
Stop moving the goalposts and answer the question.
>>69795939
Ok you're trolling
>>69795939
>Why does there have to be an explanation as to why God does something?
So that your theory is based on evidence as opposed to "LOL HGOD WORKS IN MYSTERY WAYS XDDD'?
>>69794303
>>69794435
You fucking morons, if you weren't so goddamned illiterate you would understand that Aristotle was the church's unscientific mouthpiece for centuries!
>>69795794
we DON'T have a global food crisis. america solved it. there's literally 0 people dying from hunger due to white people.
and when the population increases because of that, when we have enough, we're going to sacrifice them all to satan and fill up a copper bowl the size of a NFL stadium with human blood.
we gave them that life.
>>69796012
>philosophy is a jewish trick
Are you mentally ill?
>>69783529
Evolution is an adaptation of species to its enviroment.
Trying to hamfist the THERE'S NO GOD WE'RE MONKEYS rhetorics in is cancer.
I'll leave this here.
>>69795838
I do have a clue, God made it that way, it's not complicated but Jews who are hungry for government funding like to make it more confusing than it is and people actually fall for their lies.
>>69795850
So are you saying that after the Big Bang happened, people moved to the Newley created Earth? The Japanese didn't just magically appear from a cell in the water and turn into a human they moved there.
>>69795871
Okay Achmed, go pray to your war lord
>>69795878
What's the point in being a Christian if you don't believe the word of God? If we continue to just disregard parts of the Bible eventually nothing in the bible will be true,
>>69795894
Why don't you try it on yourself first?
>>69795695
No you can learn from history and use it for example if everyone knew history we would not let muslims in because we all knew they are shit tier . noooo the crusades where evil
>>69796108
church of kek, maybe.
just because it's a "church" doesn't mean it follow the bible to the letter and apply their ways based on what's written on it.
daily reminder that church are still run by 3dpd that will use any and all means just to place food in their tables. including tarnishing His good name.
>>69796267
>Okay Achmed, go pray to your war lord
I'm an atheist, actually
Funny how when you BTFO other people they just reply with ad hominem because they realise they've been outed as stupid fucks
>>69795714
thats right leaf i already posted how godless holland was and we are next in line to get cucked.
>>69792160
Better than being forced to suck 30 Muslim dicks
>>69796019
We do know why, but why is it that way? God just made things that way and sometimes we don't know the answer as to why he did things that way,
>>69796049
What was your question?
>>69796051
It's sad that Argentina has abandoned it's Christian faith
>>69796068
Except there is no evidence
>>69796140
There are still millions starving, not that I think it's a bad thing, Africans are one of the most degenerate people on this planet!
no fedora posts here Yet? Im proud of you /pol/ now us atheist can have a reasonable discussion here.
>>69796108
>Aristotle was the church's unscientific mouthpiece
That's because science is a sham. Every scientist is therefore unscientific by DEFINITION.
>>69796425
>Better than being forced to suck 30 Muslim dicks
I'm sure your jaws will adapt soon.
>>69796447
Right, so you accept there is no evidence for your theory and can be disregarded as false.
Any thing asserted with no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence.
>>69796447
>god of the gaps
So how do we know when to stop asking questions?
>>69796267
>What's the point in being a Christian if you don't believe the word of God?
The bible wasn't mostly written by a pack of literal jews and sandniggers. Then revised probably a dozen times over the course of history.
If anything the stories of god / jesus have taught such idolatry and zealous reverence are exactly the type of shit they didn't like (outside of the old testament, but if you listen to that shit you may as well be a literal kike).
>>69796267
>What's the point in being a Christian if you don't believe the word of God?
But believing the word of God doesn't mean you you take everything in the Bible as physical *fact.* The Bible is not A book, it is a collection of books, all of which serve different purposes and are used in different contexts to slowly reveal the extent of God's wisdom and creation.
>If we continue to just disregard parts of the Bible eventually nothing in the bible will be true,
You don't have to disregard *anything* in the Bible. You just have to be sure you don't read the Bible with a single mindset, because doing so opens yourself up to all sorts of internal contradictions and if anything actually hampers attempts at gaining a genuine understanding of God, not helps it.
Genesis is allegorical. The Gospels are history. Job is a parable. You can read all of these, believe every single one of them to be true, but not contradict yourself when faced with scientific evidence to the contrary because you made the wise choice to understand HOW you believe things, not just why.
>>69796447
i don't think millions are starving. unless your idea of starving is not enough burgers and milkshakes. those people didn't exist until we needed blood for a grand sacrifice. they don't deserve burgers.
>>69794109
>remember when scientists discovered sea shells on the Himalayas? Well what a coincidence that the Bible also mentions that there was a great flood.
Are you retarded? Serious question.
>>69796400
How can an atheist call someone else stupid? It must still be April fools in the Netherlands, Europeans are always so behind us and America.
>>69796411
I feel sorry, you have a beautiful country and unfortunately it's all going the way of the Dodo.
>>69796267
>genuinely thinks the big bang is exactly what it says on the tin
Anon. It was not an explosion because an explosion requires space outside of the blast range in which to be viewed, the big bang was a rapid expansion, in which an infintesimal point in an endless nothingness created an expanding envelope of space and matter, which is our universe. They just put the explosion effects on current visual renditions to excite the young and unintelligent.
>>69792402
Stop making FIlipinos look bad jesus fucking christ it's no wonder why it's such a shithole
People like you are the reason the Philippines will never get past jungle nigger tier in the eyes of the rest of the world
>>69796627
>How can an atheist call someone else stupid?
In a 2013 meta-analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, of 63 scientific studies about IQ and religiosity, a negative relation between intelligence and religiosity was found in 53, and a positive relation in the remaining ten. Controlling for other factors, they can only confidently show strong negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity among American Protestants.[1]
>>69796627
>I feel sorry, you have a beautiful country and unfortunately it's all going the way of the Dodo.
It wouldn't surprise me if AIDS turned out to be a Dutch invention, a logical conclusion to their centuries-old degeneracy.
>>69796627
The authors reported a correlation of 0.60 between atheism rates and level of intelligence, which was determined to be "highly statistically significant".[3] Of the twelve countries with atheism over 40%, all except two are in the average IQ range of 94 to 100, with only one higher than that range (Japan) and one lower (Cuba)
>>69787427
>and they cant find any fossil with a sea horse,, or a catfish
Holy fuck, reading this thread is like going back to XIVth century.
>>69796555
The word of God is my evidence
>>69796557
When we open the Bible and see the answers are right in there
>>69796589
You can practice it the way you want, I'll continue to practice it the way I want and I believe the word of God is 100% accurate and to be taken literally.
>>69796604
You can believe what you'd like
>>69796645
The universe was already of infinite size at the time of the big bang, otherwise nothing would exist outside of the observable(!) universe.
>>69796148
it probably is because i have my bible right here
Romans 1:22-32King James Version (KJV)
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
>>69796736
>Ma, I'm quoting from Degenerapedia again!!!!
1) Stupid people need God's love too, and they, too, deserve salvation. Why are you so elitist?
2)There are many, MANY highly intelligent believers, among which you can find many Nobel Prize winners
>>69796736
In absolute honesty m8, and he is retarded for sure, anyone who calls themselves an athiest I write off as a dribbling idiot faster than I do with religious people.
You must be aware that you are fighting hypocracy with hypocracy, by drawing the opposite conclusion to him with the same lack of data you accuse him of.
>>69796267
So, if you really are such an expert, you should be able to reply to really easy question that was one of the most important thing in philosophy about gravity.
It's
Time of a full swing of a pendulum = constant * length of the pendulum
Or
= constant * length^2
Again this is an historical problem
