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Why is Singapore so clean?

In Norway you would have seen a good amount of litter in those bushes.
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>>69781548
Army of cleaners. Singaporeans are terrible litterbugs.
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Their government is authoritarian. You will be fined or sent to prison for littering. Chewing gum is illegal in Singapore.
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>>69781548

Littering gets you caned...like 50 lashes.

They literally beat your ass if you are a piece of shit.
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You will pay 500$ if you drop something on the ground there
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>>69781548
you get executed for sneezing. just think what they do if you litter.
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>>69781548
Because passing such laws would be considered racism in western world because poor "diverse" (nigger filled) areas are dirty while clean ones are rich and white. So it would be systemic racism blah blah blah

And it's legit ,black "intellectuals" denounced how crack cocaine is more harshly punished than powder cocaine because it's "da black man drug man"
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>>69781548

They execute people for littering. That's why there are no people in the photo.
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>In the mid 1990s, Singapore's laws began to receive international press coverage. For example, the U.S. media paid great attention to the case of Michael P. Fay, an American teenager sentenced in 1994 to caning in Singapore for vandalism (for using spray paint, not chewing gum). They also drew attention to some of Singapore's other laws, including the "mandatory flushing of public toilets" rule. Confused reporting about these issues has led to worldwide propagation of the myth that the use or importation of chewing gum is itself punishable with caning. In fact, this has never been a caning offence, and the only penalties provided under Chapter 57 are fines and imprisonment.[4]

>When a BBC reporter suggested that such draconian laws would stifle the people's creativity, Lee Kuan Yew retorted: "If you can't think because you can't chew, try a banana."[5]

Based Yew, the world is a darker place without him.
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>>69782237
>caning in Singapore for vandalism (for using spray paint

I would gladly cane every single fuckhead with a spraycan, to be honest. Completely just punishment.
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Singapore pursues a system of capital punishment for petty crime. You litter, you get caned. And not some pussy boarding school slap on your wrist, it's an actual whipping that usually breaks the skin with every stroke.

I honestly wish Australia would take a page from their book. See how many of those boong cunts keep stealing shit if it means getting stripes.
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>>69781548
Authoritarian as fuck
Banned chewing gum.
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>>69781548
>In Norway you would have seen a good amount of litter in those bushes.
What the fuck is wrong with Europe?
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>>69782443
The degenerates of the '68-generation think having people shit all over the place and do whatever they want without any norms, laws, or morals is an essential part of liberty and artistic expression and surrendering the continent to those sand- and junglenigger savages will turn it into a multicultural utopia.

Fuck that, bring bang the gallows and fire up the ovens.
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As native from this shithole that is Brazil, I was thoroughly impressed when I visited Singapore

Walking at night with whatever I wanted and not a worry in the world was unreal to me. I also loved how everything was very clean and organized. Would live there without thinking twice.

Just follow the laws and you're alright. They're reasonable enough, littering is for fags.

Though that car thing is bullshit.
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>>69782623
Jesus.

All memes aside: America is probably the freest nation on the planet but we still teach our children "don't litter, use the trash cans". It's like Europe wanted to emulate America, but went to the extremes to compensate.
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>>69782972

People rarely litter here. But then again, Scandinavians are a different race from those filthy continentals.
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>>69782972
We force kids to pick up garbage as part of the education system.
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>>69783666

Same.
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>>69784094

>In October 2014, the Supreme Court of Singapore upheld the government’s ban on homosexuality, effectively ruling that gay men must stay ‘in-the-closet’ or face a two year prison term. These laws were designed to defend what Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong described as traditional Singaporean family values.

>However, same sex relationships between women have never been penalized and, were actually specifically mentioned in another statute which offered more sexual freedom to heterosexuals and lesbians.
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>>69784094
I see nothing wrong with most of this. Especially faggots. They spread STD more than others
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>>69782385
>>69782237
>>69781744

>One of the most highly talked about laws in Singapore, is the “Chewing Gum Law”. In 1992, after years of vandalism in elevators, mailboxes, and on sidewalks, the government of Singapore decreed all gum illegal to stem the amount of sticky stuff on elevator buttons and on stair railings.
>Only in 2004, after pressure from the US and other governments, the law was revised to allow chewing gum for therapeutic, medicinal, or dental reasons, however it is illegal to sell and import gum on the island. Tourists in-transit, West Malaysians, and gum for research purposes are exceptions of gum chewing allowed in Singapore, however this is still contingent on approval from the government.
>Singapore Statutes Online states chewing gum penalty fines for first-time convictions may range up to $100,000, a prison sentence of up to two years, or both. Plus, penalties rise with each subsequent conviction.
>Word to the wise, leave your gum at home!
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>>69781829
>Littering gets you caned...like 50 lashes.

Sounds great
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>>69781548
it doesnt look any cleaner than where i work in brisbane

maybe norway is a shitty country that doesnt make unemployed people walk around and pick up trash for their welfare cheques
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>>69782342

Graffiti boils my blood in any form. Imagine a world without graffiti
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>>69784094
Singapore is a fascist state posing as a democracy.

Those kind of draconian laws are what keeps displaced Chinamen in line, without those they're no different than their mainlander cousins.
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>>69784186
fuck, i remember this shit.
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>>69784412
Street art is pretty sick though. Can make a dull, brown/grey wall actually look interesting
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>>69784569
>>69784186
>>69783666
>Scandinavia
not even once
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>>69784596

It's better if things are kept clean and orderly.
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>>69784596
fuck no

its chimp speak that ruins cultural landmarks or some faggot like banksy it preaching at you to open your borders like a dumb cunt
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>>69784596
Forgot pic

>>69784569
Which one are you in the other Swede's pic?
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>>69784412
Tags infuriate me.
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>>69784658
degenerate as fuck
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>>69784186
Cute!

I honestly don't know how to act around children, but I still don't mind being around them. It's like I need someone to police the children present, and then I really like being around them. I must be autistic.
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>>69784677
>Grey commieblock walls straight outta 1984 are superior to colour and vibrance
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>>69784412
>>69784667
I'd rather see a billboard of tags than some black cunt topless advertising jeans or some gay shit.
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It's pretty incredible what you can accomplish with threats of beating people.
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>>69784824
>>Grey commieblock walls straight outta 1984 are superior to colour and vibrance

Definitely.
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>>69784824
>implying we have commie blocks
also commie blocks are preferable to graffiti covered shit
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>>69784094
kucked
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>>69784879
What a fucking depressing city you would want to create, you should live in Brussels or in Belarus/Russia. Fucking depressing places with commieblocks further than the eye can see.

Grey walls provide nothing of value at all. Street art promotes domestic and international tourism.
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>>69784658

>Signed 'Adam Cuck'.
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>>69784878
there was a vice article today about some dumb shit and liberals and somebody posted a comment on the article saying that it would be so much easier to just throw leftists out of a helicopter and triggered fucking everybody for like 5 hours straight
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>>69784997
>you should live in Brussels or in Belarus/Russia.

Those places are covered in graffiti, so no thanks.
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>>69784969
Where in my posts did I make that implication?
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>>69782237
its like the opposite of poo in the loo land
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>>69784997
Saint Petersburg is quite beautiful even with commie blocks
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>>69784997
>>69784824
>>69784658
this shit isnt grafitti this crap is organised by the local council
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>>69784094
>severe penalties for not shitting in the loo and flushing it

Lee Kuan Yew had only 1 group of people in mind.
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>>69781548
I guess it's because there are no americans?
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>>69784094

based
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>>69781829
When Trump gets elected, will we get that same law in Finland, please?
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>>69785069
They are also saturated with grey walls for you to feel cosy with. Enjoy.
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>>69781548
Because they stone you to death for spitting out gum in the sidewalk. The littering laws there are crazy
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>>69784658

Looks disgusting and 99.999% of Graffiti is just vandalism and would never be considered art by a sane human being. If a wall does need to be tarted up they can commission actual artists, not kids who wear their pants round their fucking ankles.
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Sharia Law
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>>69781548

Because you pay a lot if you do that or you go to jail. That's why. Punishment is the only thing to make people behave propertly.
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>Why is Singapore so clean?

Probably because a littering first offense carries a $1,000.00 fine, 2nd offense $2,000 plus community service - and the law is actually enforced.

Just a guess.
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>>69785114
I acknowledged that difference, read
>>69784596
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>>69781548
Having lived in Singapore for awhile, I can tell you that people over there still litter. The mainland Chinese are especially prone to it, and if you take a walk near the HDB flats where they tend to congregate, you'll see shitloads of litter on the ground.
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>>69785225
Too bad some fucktards still do it even when there's a trashcan every 50 metres
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>>69785190
I'm not condoning grafitti where it is just tags you burnt out pommie. I'm saying that cool looking street art can contribute to the culture of a city along with creating a relatively cheap way to promote tourism. Who the fuck wants to stare at grey walls everywhere they go?
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>>69785372
S'what you have the ratan for, my ninja.
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>>69785418
So long as it's not Banksy/privilege checking garbage.

I really can't stand that fuckwad.
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>>69785372
I do my part by telling these scums (politely) to please pick it up and dispose their thrash.
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>>69785462
I agree, his political messages are bullshit
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>>69785207
>Punishment is the only thing to make people behave propertly.
This. It is legal in Spain to litter because we don't want to bother our main source of income: the tourists. Therefore many spaniards behave like pigs and fill our streets with dog piss and filth.
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>>69785418
>putting bandannas over famous people's faces from nearly 60 years ago is cultural enrichment


faggots that cover their faces with bandannas to look "badass" need to be publicly caned
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>>69785623
>I'm triggered by the sight of a bandanna
>I'm also an edgelord who prefers fucking grey walls to genuine pieces of artwork to be contrarian/I hate all things colourful
Turn it up mate
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>>69781548
The government of Singapore is authoritarian and gives no fucks, smoking and drinking carry heavy sin taxes and littering is heavily fined and punished

if you bring drugs or contraband into it you must be the dumbest motherfucker alive
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>>69785816

You are seriously disgusting.
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>>69785418

>Who the fuck wants to stare at grey walls everywhere they go?

There's a thing called "architecture." It's the design of buildings. A building itself is intended, by the architect, to be visually pleasing - in most cases.

So to paint something on it is pretty much the same thing as painting a picture on a statue, or putting a boom-box blasting Led Zeppelin on the stage during a Lady Gaga concert.

Personally I'd be standing close to the boom box, but that's beside the point.
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>>69785892
KEK
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>>69785816
trash
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>>69785892
>cuck calling graffiti disgusting

Shut the fuck up refugee lover, I'll take well done street art over people who scream about infidels any day of the week.

You can switch the two over my dead body.
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I hope Singapore never becomes the land of degenerates. Liberal poison is the worst thing that can happen to a country. After communism of course.
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>>69785484
Why is Singapore so successful? Also do you approve of living in such society? Seems pretty based to me.

>>69785816
>>69785961
Scarring buildings with your shit is thrash, but at least they have talent unlike modern "artists"
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Isn't singapore a very very authoritarian country? I heard somewhere that free speech is extremely limited there.
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>>69784094
Those should be in the constitution of every country
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>>69786106
Singapore is successful because there is no safety net per se. You have to contribute to survive in Singapore.
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>>69786136
Our freedom of speech is no different from what Europe has at the moment
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>>69785945
Incorrect, post WWII when the population boomed and urbanization increased exponentially, aesthetically pleasing architecture was replaced by practical, confined and high. Why do you think that the only noticeable architecture has come in the last 15 years, even then only a small amount who have adopted a hyper modern look? Actually good architecture was halted at the turn of the 19th century.

The picture you have highlighted is brown, and therefore street art wouldn't work as well on it. It also seems to be in a rural area, which is not typically where street art is most located. Where it IS, however, is in back alleys, skate parks, tunnels, and areas that would otherwise be uninteresting grey walls. And definitely not designed to look aesthetic.
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>>69786106
^this

I like
>>69785816
way more than current "modern art"
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>>69786208
Ah, so it is indeed extremely limited.
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>>69784186
I did this when I was in boy scouts
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>>69786208
A guy got arrested for making a video with disparaging comments about LKY. Doesn't sound very free to me.
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>>69786172
Also didn't you guys play around successfully with population control for a while? I think I remember that Singapore tried to implement a limited number of children per couple, and then removed that limitation and provided massive tax breaks for having kids, so only the richest most successful people ended up having kids.

I always wondered why western countries didn't copy that form of population control instead of just importing trillions of niggers.
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>>69781548
because they beat you and through you in jail if you litter.
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>>69786242
Sorry I didn't phrase that very well
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>>69782007
>black intellectuals
>black
>intellectuals
kek
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>>69786278
Yes it is. I circumvent it by posting on 4chan.
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>>69786136
yup, not that most off the cuff remarks are rammed down on like in china, but it is better to leave well enough alone and to mind you mouth

generally not being an asshole, and minding the tone and volumn of your voice is the best way to stay out of trouble, don't be like Micheal P. Fay;

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/26/us/us-student-tells-of-pain-of-his-caning-in-singapore.html
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>>69786320
Yeah. Bongland had a guy arrested for a racist tweet. What is your point?
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>>69781548
Former British colonies are always the best
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>>69784364
That powerful Gum lobby though
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>>69781548
Their government is a somewhat fascist dictatorship. Notice how capitalist democracies have litter, graffiti and gum everywhere and socialist countries are all poorly maintained and falling to pieces.
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>>69786484
What do you mean "circumvent"? Can your government not monitor 4chan? Mine can easily get an IP.
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>>69786004

The two go hand in hand. "Street art" lovers are refugee loving cucks, WITH NO EXCEPTIONS.
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>>69786242

>And definitely not designed to look aesthetic.

Of course it's designed to look aesthetic. Look at the neighborhood it's in, it's a perfect fit - it stands out just slightly, and portrays an image of solid craftsmanship and subtle authority. As intended, I'm sure.

Can you imagine if that church was some modern spectacle standing out like a sore thumb?

Point being, the surroundings are all part of the package. You could plop that building down dead square in the middle of any middle class neighborhood featuring older homes and it would fit right in. All you have to do is look at it to know it's a church.
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>>69785372
>there's a trashcan every 50 metres
This is what I need. I hate going into the city and there's absolutely no fucking trashcans. It's like they want people to litter.
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>>69786536
I obviously disagree for the Brit getting arrested as well, but the difference is the teenager was making a political video (freedom of speech is a fundamental pillar of democracy), the Bong was making a racial comment.

What's more, most Singaporeans I've talked to, both IRL and online, were supportive of the arrest, in contrast to may Brits who were horrified.
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>>69786648
They can but they have to go through the US system to subpoena an Ip or some other country since hiro now owns 4chan. Why would they do that for one lone shitposter?
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>>69786645
uthoritarianism works when it has a nationalistic character.
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>>69786683
You misinterpreted me. I said that alley ways, skate parks, tunnels and overpasses are not designed to be aesthetic, not that particular building. This is just an objective fact.

What's more, there are obviously limits to street art, putting it on religious buildings is not appopriate, nor do I advocate every single wall in the entire world being sprayed. However there is a clear case in many urban environments where the landscape is saturated with dull grey walls that are boring to look t. A relatively cost free initiative like street art is an excellent way make the city look far prettier.
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>>69786820
He was arrested for comments he made in a political video. Those comments however were racist in nature. Saying racist comments in a political video doesn't suddenly grant you immunity
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>>69786892
Not sure. The Singaporean government is the opposite of being cucked. I wouldn't be surprised if they went hard after some shitposting faggot just to make a point. But then again, I don't know shit about Singapore.
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>>69781548
I regularly visit Singapore on my way to visit my family in New Zealand.

It's so clean that it feels a bit sterile. I like it though. The food is the best I've ever tasted.
The people are a bit standoffish.

Also it's basically a fascist dictatorship, and if you break the law, you're fucked.
Don't break the law in Singapore. And whatever you do don't even think about drugs. Instant death penalty. It's clean because the penalties for dropping rubbish are extremely severe.
I don't wish to be racist, but there's a type of 'hive mind' there. It's difficult to explain.

Pic is some mountains in Kazakhstan after visiting my sis on my way back to England.
Looks better from the window.
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>>69787033
>Those comments however were racist in nature.
Really? As I recall when I watched, it purely attacked the fact that LKY had been created as this holier than thou national figure that one was unable to criticize. Ironically, he proved his point when he got arrested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JqLm1kXqvo

Watch it again (wouldn't be suprised if it was blocked). I hear no racial undertones at all, particularly as they are the same race.
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>>69784460
>Chinamen in line, without those they're no different than their mainlander cousins.
what do the mainlanders do
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>>69784596
Fuck you
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>>69787215
He was attacking/insulting Christians.
That is the part where the courts charged him with. Not him insulting LKY.
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>>69784596
>>Street art is pretty sick though
too few people are creative, not worth it to promote it. also, painters are not owners of the wall but they sure enjoy defacing whatever they can, so they are ill-minded in the first place
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>>69787352
Ah, it's still bullshit. Just slightly less ridiculous bullshit. Still ridiculous though.
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>>69787009

I suppose here and there are places where it fits in just fine. My objective objection, however, is that when one person decides to engage such a project, it might or might not be considered an improvement by other members of the community.

Basically, graffiti artists who are serious about their shit need to come up from underground and seek permission to do what they do. I recall seeing a large number of community-sanctioned murals that have definitely made a nice visual impact.

But let's be frank - the garden-variety graffiti artist is just as interested in the criminal aspect of the activity as the artistic aspect. It's thrill-painting.
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>>69787452
Like I said, it is no different from Europe at the moment.
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>>69777777
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>>69787295
Mainland Chinese are without souls. Their callous actions towards each other and to others reflects this. Mao didn't wipe out enough of these fucks if you ask me.
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>>69787352
>Not him insulting LKY
That seems like a rather poor attempt at trying arresting someone when there is a clear other reason. Kind of like arresting the Mafia for tax evasion. I an 8:30 video, he spent around 45 seconds comparing LKW to Jesus while satirically pointing out differences. Go ahead, watch the video yourself.
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Sounds like you are just mad that your exfuture wife is actually going to wind up getting raped by refugees. Don't worry anon, we'll be here for you when that happens.

Still better than modern art, which only proves how art is subjective. Disliking a group of people is objective.
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>>69784602
Straya and Britain does it too.

Mainly to educate about the effect of trash on the environment.

Teaching litterers to not litter is pointless - they don't care
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>>69787698
I already watched the video. A long time ago. I know what he said, I don't need an Aussie to tell me about news that is happening in my own fucking country.

Regardless of what you think or your opinions, he didn't get charged for insulting LKY in a political video, he got charged for insulting Christians. That is a big no-no in our country. You can't insult religion or race here.
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>>69784658
>street art

just an excuse for building cheap shitty concrete garbage.

Don't tolerate it. 'Shedism' is a joke
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>>69787478
Yeah see I'd define that as grafitti. Your natural next response would be how can you distinguish between Street Art and Grafitti, and being art, it is incredibly difficult and subjective to make the contrast.

My major point is that in many cases, these boring grey walls, and the city as a whole, can have recieve great benefits from genuinely good street art. It livens up the place immensely in mine, and many others, opinion.
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I remember overhearing some Bernie-fag talking about moving out of the country if Trump is elected.

He named your usual: Canada, Sweden, other cucked countries.

Then he named Singapore and went on to talk about it in high spirits as if what he said about Trump's strict foreign policy and authoritarian figure bothering him doesn't apply here - When Singapore is one of the most strictly fascist places to live in (which is a privilege).

Heh like they would even let that fat-ass into their country.
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>>69787860
So he spent 7 minutes and 45 seconds highlighting that despite excellent economic growth,how LKY was more akin to a dictator than a democratic leader. He also used factual based evidence to support his claim.

You are correct that he was charged for criticisms against Christanity (although what he said about it was hardly controversial at all). However by far what dominated the public sphere was his comments on LKY. Many people in Singapore said he "needed to see a doctor" because he spoke ill of dear leader.
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>>69784658
>>69784824
>>69784997
>>69785175
>>69785418
>>69785816
>>69785961
>>69788063
>Tarnishing nice clean walls and surfaces with shitty images causing all kinds of horrid asymmetry, clutter and jarring vibrance
Fucking disgusting.
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>>69782898
That's what all brown people think. Then the next thought in mind is how easy it would be to start taking advantage of it criminally.
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>>69781829
I like it!
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>>69788432
And? How is that any different from what is happening all over the world at the moment? Ever heard of popular opinions? He had one that went against it and people disagreed. He however wasn't charged for it.
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>>69784639
>>69787327
>>69788754
>Swedes care more about THIS MUCH about street art
No wonder you're going down the shitter
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>>69781548
a strong national identity is drummed into the people since birth.

this is truly /pol/and
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>>69787860
You're a dumbass if you think he was charged for comments on Christianity and not for insulting our Great Leeder.
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>>69782972
Our cities are dirty as hell, but that's mostly non-whites and bydlo white trash.

>>69783666
Here, we force drunks or would-be prisoners to do it on weekend mornings.
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>>69784094
good, faggotry should be banned.

homosexuality is a psychosexual disorder
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>>69781744
Dropping gum or cigarette litter is punishable by a £75 on the spot fine in the UK
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>>69789150
if you do it front of a bobby
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>>69788826
Because it is clear that it was highly convenient that Yee discussed thirty seconds of religion in his nine minute video because it gave the Singaporean judicial system an incredibly poor justification to arrest him. If he wasn't found guilty of "remarks against Christianity, with the deliberate intention of wounding the religious feelings of Christians in general".
He was found guilty of hurting Christians feelings? This is Sharia Law tier.

It was a clear intent by the Singporean Government to discourage negative comments of Lee Kuan Yew. There have been no videos or criticism of him ever since then in the same manner, and it is known the criticising him in Singapore is asking for trouble.
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>>69784186
Where are the blacks?
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>>69789034
>He was factually charged with X
>Wow you must be a retarded if you think he was charged with X
ITE students have a holiday tomorrow?
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>>69789269
Structured that second sentence poorly sorry
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>>69789269
>This is Sharia Law tier.
Yes. Like the rest of Europe. What is your point again? I feel like I am aruging in circles at the moment.

>It was a clear intent by the Singporean Government to discourage negative comments of Lee Kuan Yew
Okay. Prove it.
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>>69789180
I did it once in Birmingham in front of one and he told me to pick it up and put it in the bin. Later that same week I swear I saw the some policeman fining a Paki for the same offence
>mfw
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>>69789305
>I believe what the government has to say 100% in any court case
Yes because the only reason Al Capone was arrested for tax evasion in 1932
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>>69781744
Import and sale of gum. Prosecuting people who chew gum is silly, people get pissed and find ways to hide chewing gum. Just make it so no one can buy chewing gum.
>>69781829
It's a fine and or public service, American. Gang violence gets you caned.
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>>69789455
Birmingham is already shit enough without litter
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>>69784186
>>69783666
This wouldn't work in the states though, niggers literally litter needles and crackpots. Even in decent neighborhoods.
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>>69789508
Stop right there citizen!

Did you just sneeze, Are you aware that such actions can result in the death penalty?

What's say you in your defense?
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>>69782237
>If you can't think because you can't chew, try a banana
Top bantz
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>>69789366
Actually I would love you to cite an example of someone being arrested for "hurting someones feelings", particularly in an action as harmless as a 30 second speech. As I said earlier the tweet was related to a man potentially verbally/physically harassing a Muslim woman. The arrest also got nationwide condemnation and he was realised soon after, the complete opposite to the LKY saga.
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>>69781548
I visited Singapore, and the first thing my driver told me was to not say or do anything that could be construed as legally questionable or even remotely anti-government or the government might make me "disappear."

On the plus side, it is clean as shit.
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>>69781548
Because Asia is the masterrace.
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>>69784366
>>69784412
>>69784667
You fags seem so old.
>these kids with their low riding pants now days. You can almost see the bottom of their briefs
> wat is this hippity hoop?
>I remember when star wars came out
No wonder every post in /pol gets 400 likes. Old people can't help but respond.
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>>69783666
>>69784186
Why no gloves.
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>>69782898
COE makes perfect sense. We have horrific jams even with cars costing several hundred percent more. Just use the MRT, the perimeter of the island is only 40km.
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>>69789730
The example can't be about inciting violence either, seeing as you are making direct comparisons to Singaporean free speech and its Western equivalent,
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Along with all the answers given already in this thread, I think it's also important to mention that Singapore rests in a very wet and turbulent climate with lots of typhoons, floods, and tidal events. When you have so much water pouring down on you, it's easy to keep things clean since most of it gets washed away.
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>>69782898
seriously m8, get the fuck out of Brazil. Even Canada. Go somewhere with civilized people and a reasonable climate.
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>>69781548
Wtf! That's my neighbourhood.
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>>69782972
>freest nation
>most people in prison
donthinksotim
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>>69789952
>What are niggers
I hope you complain about incarceration due to drug laws, particularly as you may or may not be comparing the USA to Singapore
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Why the fuck are there no LKY pics in this thread.

You all fucked up REAL bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8rPofi-AUw
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>>69781548
>he doesn't know about Coalescence, the 54 Immortals or the army of crazed robots patrolling the streets.
>mfw
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>>69784094
>no homos but yes to lesbians
I am very OK with this

The chewing gum thing is bullshit, you can chew. You're just fined if you spit it onto the streets or try to import it.
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>>69789497
Here comes the strawman
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>>69782972
>All memes aside: America is probably the freest nation
>All memes aside
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>>69789730
>>69789897
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/mar/27/student-jailed-fabrice-muamba-tweets
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>>69781548
Like korea
Muh authorita
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>>69789180
Enforcement officers for local councils as well
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>>69786320
He was arrested for this anti Christianity comments.

Fine by me. I have no love of freedom of speech. It's a repulsive idea - Just because I have an idea, regardless of how irrational and unsupported it is, it deserves to exist.
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>>69783666
>>69784186
so cute lol.
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>>69790851
You are allowed to think 2+2=5 anon. That is what freedom is.
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>>69787185
That pic looks great. Reminds me of a pic I took when I was a kid and went to Shang-Ri La. We stopped at some gas station and ten km away I saw this fucking huge, sheer mountain wall thay came out of nowhere.
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>>69789952
>he doesn't know how to adjust for population
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>>69789007
No one takes it seriously. Every racial harmony day is just a day watch some ethnic shows.
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>>69790332

That guy was 1 in 100 million.
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>>69789666
I tell them I have H1N1 and use my Medishield to pay my affordable healthcare.
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>>69790589
I don't agree with it, but to arrest someone for hurling racist tweets towards a recently decased man is different from comparing Lee Kuan Yew to a christian (albeit he was recently deceased). It is also interesting how you have consistently targeted the UK which is perhaps the weakest of the Western countries in regards to these matters.

>>69790851
How hypocritical, posting on an anonymous site criticizing free speech. Your particular mindset is a nefarious dictator's wet dream. He can literally rise to power unimpeded because of restrictions on you that you support.

I have to go to bed, but it comes down to a philosophical mindset. You are clearly content with relinquishing political freedoms that are common in many nations, either for an authoritarian reason or an economic one. However I will never believe that opinions, no matter how radical, should be restricted in my country, even if that means I have a little less in my back pocket.
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>>69789740
That's just paranoia, everyone enjoys being privy to the dark side of a country. It's like a badge of honor. Singaporeans have a better safe than sorry attitude to everything.
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>>69791239
UK isn't Europe now? Did the Brexit vote pass?

>I don't agree with it
Your opinion has 0 bearing on the law. The law is the law.
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is singapore really that clean? i've always considered this level of cleanliness pretty much standard across all developed cities
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>>69791501
How many developed cities have you been to. Just curious.
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>>69781548
>Why is Singapore so clean?

They don't have "unemployment," if you don't have a job they won't just give you a handout. Everybody works. If the streets are dirty and you have people without a job, you put them to work cleaning the streets. It's not fun, the hours are long, but for contributing to society you will have an income.

Despite the Authoritarian government I think that's a pretty reasonable way to handle unemployment.

The problem is that we can't put people to work in the west, people don't want to work. It's the same reasons women don't bitch about gender under-representation in jobs like mining and garbage collection.
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>>69791535
only a few in europe and australia since im poor as fuck and can't travel very far

i have never been to uk or the states, but i see pictures of cities there and they look pretty clean to me
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>>69789282
Black kids rarely attended kindergarten, it's actually the biggest integration problem in Norway
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>>69791761
The pictures you see are of tourist areas. All tourist areas are pretty clean. Even those in Europe and Australia. Stray a little out of the way and suddenly everything goes to shit.
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>>69781548
Because unlike Norway, Singapore sends back the people who try to enter illegally.
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So tell me, mainland Chinese girls or Singaporean girls?
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>>69791684
That and they'd expect at least 15$ an hour to pick up trash otherwise they'd bitch about how it's not a living wage.
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>>69789820
Other way around. The pendulum's swung back and the kids are authoritarians.
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>>69781548
Singapore canes you for spitting gum on the ground.
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>chew gum
>get jailed
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>>69784460
>Singapore is a fascist state posing as a democracy.
>Implying that's bad

Commie UPfag detected
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>>69791035
That's free will.
>>69791239
>how hypocritical
I like anonymity, not freedom of speech. I enjoy shitposting without the social pressures of being judged by others. But if I ever said anything important, anything worth saying, I'd do it publicly.

Freedom is a meme, an idea that people are controlled or aren't. In politically free countries, the rulers are moulded by popular opinion. Elected because of it. Politicial correctness filters the candiates until the most politically correct one gets to the top. You're as controlled as we are, except your dictator is narrative, the mass consciousness' interpretation of the world.

We have just one narrative, trust. We are, in fact, a democracy. If we ever stopped trusting the PAP they wouldn't be in charge. Our trust is as you said philosophically different from yours. We don't care much about gays and not being arrested for what you say, but scandals like corruption and bribery are a big no.
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>this entire thread

I miss that rich Singaporean asshole. Every Singaporean poster ITT is middle class.
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>>69781548
its weird that Singapore does not tolerate smoking or gum but prostitution is legal
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Same reason North Korea is clean.
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>>69793300
I will be rich. When my parents die.
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>>69784094
It seems such laws are the only way to prevent muslims from going full yihad.
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>>69793453

>muh inheritance

Better check on their will, trust and CPF/Insurance nomination.

There's only that smug rich asshole that I enjoy bantering and talking to since both of us drive the same car and have our own family.

The rest of your are just your typical HWZ kiasu and kiasi kikebook going plebeian normies that take MRT/SBS to camp/school and live in a HDB if not a low end condo.

I heard from the Trump thread that he went overseas 2 weeks ago to Europe. Hope he's okay.
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>>69793682
>Better check on their will, trust and CPF/Insurance nomination.

Why? Because they are going to give the 5 properties they own currently to someone else?
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>>69781548
Because Norwegians are hillbillies one generation off the mountain.
Basically like gulf arabs, same reason too.
Don't compare yourself to civilized countries.
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>>69793828

I've seen people do this, especially if their child is a useless idiot that can't do anything right without daddy's money and just can't wait for their parents to die so they can inherit everything.

Can't say if you're one of those retards, but you're posting on 4chinz so most likely yeah. Unlike other people like me who actually buys a house for my parents and buy them a new car and a holiday to Japan.

Singaporeans really are an ungrateful bunch.
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>>69794059
Luckily for me, I am not one of those people. I am going to graduate this May with 1st class honors from NUS Law. So thanks for your concerns, I don't think I will have such a problem despite my love for posting on 4chan. Hey you might even be able to google my name and find some articles about me right now.
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>CO legalizes weed
>Over 9000 people move here
>Suddenly literal trash everywhere as well as figurative trash

Thanks weedfags.
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>>69794324

>I can't wait for my parents to die so I can inherit their money
>why don't you google me? I'm going to be a legal solicitor, like the thousands of graduates in Singapore in a very diluted industry

kek no thanks. I already have my own group of lawyers representing me in Singapore, so I don't need to google an ungrateful greenhorn like you. Come talk to me when you form your own practice
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>>69794639
>I can't wait for my parents to die so I can inherit their money
Did I say that? I simply said I would be rich when my parents died. I am a student now, of course I won't have money to my name yet.

>More ad hominem
You sound insecure. Must come with being Malaysian.
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>>69794639
Malaysia y u so mad
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>>69794832
Malaysians always had an inferiority complex when it comes to Singapore.
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>>69794928
I noticed this, specially when playing dota in SEA.
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>>69784364
My mom hates gum I bet she would like a vacation there.
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>>69794812

>truth = ad hominems

Predictable. But I can't expect much from an overconfident student who's counting his eggs before it hatches. I forgot arrogance is another Singapore trait. Maybe that's the difference between us Malaysian Chinese who worked hard in an unforgiving environment and privileged Singaporean kids like you. Oh well.
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>>69784879
>Grey commieblocks are definitely superior
t.Terraria general poster.
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>>69794928
What about Sg-born Malays? I know one who immigrated here who always discourages me from immigrating to Sg,
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Because no sand niggers
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>>69795104
>Comes in to the thread
>Man I rich as fuck, no one as rich as me except that one guy
>You all poor
>Bragging on an anonymous website
>Gets butthurt when someone replies to him
Malaysia disgrace to Asian.
Anyway I have exams so I am off to bed.
Bye bye anime posting faggot from Malaysia.
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>>69795255

Not a single post I made ITT is false. And if you fail you should blame yourself for browsing /pol/ before your exams. Talk about self discipline.
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>>69784658
this stuff is awesome. if they could do this in bad areas in america people may actually go there to see this and might spend money there which might create jobs which might do something
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>you will never be a Singaporean
>you will never be able to hire a qt3.14 Filipina to do all of your housework
>you will never be 1 out of 3 households worth over $1 million
>you will never make maid carry your son's gear during his conscription
>you will never look down on Indo-peasants and Malay-serfians for being barbarian scum
>you will never live in a country with a 10% income tax
>you will never have myopia
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>>69795196

Malays in Singapore are like natives in Canada. They're lost and don't know where they stand.
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>>69791896

My city is the opposite , every square inch of the ground is covered in trash

Singapore and Japan are incredibly clean , followed by some European cities

American cities are mostly full of trash , mainly due to niggers
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>>69795405
>you will never have myopia
I don't know that feel.
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>>69795405

90% of the maids are fucking ugly

$1 million because of fixed assets and not $1 million of disposable income

looking down on indoniggers and Mudlay Mudslimes can get you arrested for sedition if you do it publicly in Singapore

20% tax with 7% GST/VAT also tax on cars, alcohol and cigarettes are Cuckstralian tier.

>myopia

You got one thing right.
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It's pretty easy to be a successful country when you have a small population and don't give into world domination bullshit ideas. Beaners and niggers are just lazy and retarded. Life in singapore isn't heaven on earth but being surrounded by shitholes probably is a good reminder that things can go south fast if they change their model.
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>>69781548
Because in Singapore, spitting chewing gum to the sidewalk will land you in jail with some corporal punishment on the side.
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>>69795405
>you will never have myopia
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>>69796189

>Central District

What's next? Pasir Ris? Jurong? Punggol?
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Draconian punishments for littering.
Seems to work for them I guess. They are small and populous, littering would be a pain in the ass.
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>>69795482
She always just seems angry about political persecution and working too much.

>>69795678
I don't drink, smoke or have any interest in owning a car, so these sorts of policies have always appealed to me.
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>>69796289
Malaysians sound incredibly insecure.
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>>69784186
Same here like in second grade.

We used to clean the forest near school. Once the classmates found a stash of porn magazines.
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>>69784596
They can petition the Singapore government and get permission. They might even get paid.
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>>69791050
>Shang-Ri La
Tell me your secrets
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Freedom has some downsides. For example people are free to act like tramps but id rather have a few tramps than an authoritarian government. Irish people are quite reasonable even when they are misbehaving.
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>>69782237
>Lee Kuan Yew
>Yew
i guess /pol/ was right again...
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>>69796756
going to need sauce my good game
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>>69795405
>10% income tax
The only thing I am jealous of.
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>>69781548
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_work_order
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>>69796767
We used to loot these (pic related) while in school. The school was close to Uni campus so there were shitloads of porno magazines in trash.

>sweet 80s
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>>69781548
Cleanlyness is next to godlyness, desu.

Nothing works properly when it's a mess. A dirty weapon doesn't shoot, a disorganized desk make your work less effective, Jeb is a mess and fails his campaign, a government is disorganized and the country goes to shit, a dirty city gets on the people's nerves and they are less happy
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>>69797666
> he doesn't know about nsn
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>>69789269
>>69789034
Was following this for a while. You're assuming that the country doesn't have a truly independent judiciary, which is one of the first things old man Lee set out to set up (and defended vigorously against all critics for decades to come).

That said, Yee is a retard. He bit off more than he could chew by being his usual sperglord attention-seeking self and making an appropriately edgy, controversial rant on Youtube right after LKY died.

And while a lot of people reported him for the insulting Christianity thing, but fact is that this was probably a loophole they exploited because they were butthurt that he was being an edgy sperglord in the midst of national mourning. So, if you want to be fair, that trial wasn't entirely balanced, no, if only because of that loophole.

Doesn't change the fact that Yee is a retard though. Crazy kid thought/thinks that he's the next Gandhi or Mandela or whoever, when that's just his martyr complex acting up (Google those names along with his and see what you get). Truth is, he's already more than happy to have grabbed the attention of so many people, nationally and internationally, like the sperglord he is. Idiot even turned on his own lawyer, the only guy willing to defend his case.

He's not some glorious symbol of free speech in an authoritarian country, /pol/. He's a fedora-tipping contrarian who wants more views on Youtube, because that makes him feel popular. That's all there is to it.
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>>69795077
>playing dota in SEA.
why would you EVER DO THAT
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>>69781548
>death penalty on littering
>no littering

it's like poetry
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I've been, some areas have quite a bit of litter
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>>69782443
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Singapoor here. Grew up middle-class and being fed shit from the lefties here about how we're supposedly some authoritarian shithole. Got older and started travelling to other parts of the world, and realized we actually have it good, I mean like, relatively really good. I think there is a ultimately a cultural difference. The essence of western liberalism is personal freedom, sociopolitical emancipation of the masses etc. Asian sociopolitics has a far greater emphasis on collective societal well-being and cohesive identity (sometimes, of course manufactured and enforced by the ruling political regime). I get the sense that East asian countries, particularly those who have had a history of internal dispute and/or were exploited by early aggressive imperialism have a heightened awareness of the fact that the death of collective identity and nationalism is the demise of a nation. The means they use to achieve this often involves the restriction of personal freedoms and freedom of speech, suppression of dissent etc. Not saying whether this is a particularly good or bad thing; it can go either the way.

On Amos Yee: did he deserve to be arrested? Probably not. He has obvious autism spectrum disorder coupled with some form of NPD. Did he deserve the widespread ridicule that followed? Definitely.
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>>69786380
Because that would be racist
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>>69781548
Japan is just about as clean, and I'm not aware of any draconian laws.

OTOH Korea is AWASH in trash. I don't think there's a developed country that comes close; it's basically third world here when it comes to that.
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Because Singapore is full of Indians
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>>69786380
Because the West with its free college education has no problems creating skilled people. The West wants a retard sub citizen to work in factories and never leave that trap.
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>>69784602
>teaching kids to clean out thrash from public places is bad, t. amerinigger
Not surprised desu.
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>>69786569
Better than Britain in every case now I believe. At least all the English speaking ones.
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>>69803537
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>>69789150
I highly doubt mr policeman is going to fine a member of "minority"
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