I've been listening and contributing for over a year.
I don't want to corrupt it. I don't want to promote buttsex. I'm not out to make any statements on masculinity, etc. I'm not like Milo, or Donovan. I haven't even given them subtle hints and I'm not going to try to make myself known, but I can't defend myself with any intellectual honesty since they have an extreme "don't ask, don't tell" culture at TRS / Radio Free Skyrim (which I understand). But these people don't seem to realize that we can be some of their best allies and it's frustrating.
They're so against homos / degeneracy but it's like they don't realize that it's not a joke, we're in their midst and it's mostly up to childless people to take the risks that breeders aren't always able to take themselves (for completely legitimate reasons).
idunno. I'm getting frustrated by the spergs. Maybe it's just the forums, cuz it seems like Enoch and Ghoul are more aware of the lack of an issue the whole gay thing truly is.
[Not to say it should be loudly spoken of / promoted but I just think it doesn't need to be admonished]
pol, I feel I am one of you more than most of you are, and continuing to do good works is testing my faith.
I'm not going to give up on saving the white race or making a big deal out of not being able to honestly discuss certain issues in the alt right but I just felt like ranting.
Nobody gives a shit about gays
>>69769007
this
you wrote an essay to preach to the choir. sage
>>69768845
>eating cock is a political stance
>>69768845
Alt-right faggot here. Keep it in the bedroom asshole
>>69768845
LOOK AT THAT FLAG.
Fucking Trudeau-cunt.
Nobody gives a shit who you bang. Especially not uncle sam.
They give a shit about who you marry for tax purposes.
>>69768845
>I don't want to corrupt it.
>I don't want to promote buttsex.
>I'm not out to make any statements on masculinity
BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP FAGGOT ALERT BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP
Pretty much no one gives a fuck until they start pushing it everywhere. Which tends to be "pride" parades and inordinate representation.
No one cares who you fuck in private and how you do it.
Milo and others are just trying to "control the narrative."
Alt-right is a name some shitheads at some think tanks or universities made up to describe people they don't understand.
THe "alt-right" is faceless. Some gay dudes see an opportunity to take this "alt right" and make it their own.
Gay men, lesbians on the left are making the west a shit hole.
The alt-right is a threat to the SJW, globalist world they've been working on.
Why is the west going beyond queer? Gender neutral, transgender... what is this bullshit?
The mudslime are going to wreck the west because of the motherfucking queers and social justice warriors. They are literally sucking the life out of western civilization like vampires.
As the left spirals into suicidal insanity, there will be more and more people looking to jump ship. If we truly believe in what we stand for, we should be welcoming new people to the right.
We can argue about gay shit later.
>>69768845
>The alt-right is too anti-gay
Stopped reading.
Get the fuck out of here you fag/fag enabler, you are a part of a subversive political movement, and you should not take pride in your sodomy.
>>69768845
I dislike faggots.
As in, the effeminate obnoxious ones.
I don't give a damn about the gay person who doesn't talk about it. It's good.
Like Ryan Faulk is the gay person I respect because he isn't a bitch about it, he accepts who he is and don't yell about it to everyone or craft his personality around it.
The problem is with the 'issue' is that the anti gay are fanatical to the point where they are attacking the moderates.... (people who hold a similar view as above)
>>69768845
have no problem with fags exiting
my fucking problem its how they need to tell fucking everyone that they are gay and they expect you to build a monument to them, or how unseless you clap when they kiss their fucking boyfriend you are racist
>>69769713
>exiting
existing* dammit
>>69769428
"alt-right" never even existed until they had to make up a name to fight back against whatever it is they don't understand that didn't want to play their game.
I though I was supposed to be a "liberal" or a "conservative" or a "poopycrap" or a "retardicunt" or a "truther" or a "birther" or a "fundie" or whatever else. But that's OK. I wonder what they'll call me next? Will they call me literally Hitler? Is there really anything worse than Hitler?
>>69769816
>Will they call me literally Hitler?
They already are, anon.
>>69768845
>"don't ask, don't tell" culture
Why is that wron?
Do you have to tell everyone you met that you are a faggot?
No one cares if you live with a man dude
Because homosexuality is against the white race, two men can't make a baby and each white gay couple is two white breeders taken away from the white race. You're willingly giving up your heritage for "love" or whatever. I have nothing against them but I'm also not alt-right LARPer, but I understand why homosexuality could never possibly go hand in hand with that ideology.
>>69769089
>That fucking image
Trends go in circles
>>69768845
>defining yourself by your perversion
That's like going around introducing yourself by telling everyone what kind of porn you like.
Nobody cares about your sexuality and weird fetishes dude.
Expand on yourself. There's more to being human than what gets you off.
Understand that what you do is some weird deviant shit that has no place being visible in civil society. Stay at arm's length in public, fuck in the privacy of your own home, don't seek to promote your lifestyle as normal, equal, or desirable, and there'll be no problems.
>>69768845
The alt-right will ease up on the anti-gay when being gay stops being an "identity". Identity politics are 100% unadulterated cancer that only serves to play into Liberal's culture of victimhood(aka blame white men for everything). So it's understandable for alt-righters to be wary of someone who feels the need to identify themselves as gay before they go into a topic, as if that somehow adds validity to their statement.
There are always going to be a handful of edgelords who want their "special club" to exclude people they don't like for arbitrary or personal reasons, even if these same people share their political and ideological views. So rather than whining about how unfair they're being for judging you for being gay, why tell them you're gay at all? Like >>69769007
said, no one who matters gives a flying fuck as long as you don't go out of your way to tell them.
Or grow thicker skin.
>But these people don't seem to realize that we can be some of their best allies and it's frustrating.
>I make le memes and contribute =D
Fucking how?
I keep seeing fags insist that their are part of the alt-right because.
"heeyy boyyzz we hate feminism too =^)"
Fuck off, many people have the left feminist, but sometime they are worse, like for example, the black lives matter, women of color bull shit.
Second of all, most of us are looking to bring back the pre-1950's family values. This means fags will literally literally only have their bath houses and clubs as safe havens again. If you are not content with that possibility, you are part of the problem.
You are in the gas list, from the very beginning, and probably will stay there for good. So fuck off and good riddance.
>>69768845
Your on /pol/ faggot. Nobody gives a shit if you suck and fuck dicks. As long as you ain't a nigger, muslim, jew or a feminist you can do whatever the fuck you like.
>>69770471
But isn't white pride also identity?
>>69770726
oy vey these goyim don't understand Marxist Reletivism yet!
>>69770471
faggotry is degenerate
>>69768845
What do you make of this?
https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/greg-cochrans-gay-germ-hypothesis-an-exercise-in-the-power-of-germs/
>>69770471
Fuck Ethan.
>starts out as some dickhead posting reactions to cringe. Fine.
>get's a little popularity and now he acts like he's some kind of moral beacon.
Most of the anti-gay is machismo posturing i wouldn't worry about it too much
>>69770726
>But isn't white pride also identity?
Yes it is and equally as asinine as being proud of what hand you wipe your ass with. Tell me my Fingolian friend, assuming you're a flaxen haired 6'5 specimen of the Aryan race, what happens when we find that 1 drop of mongrel rapebaby in you? Suddenly the Eternal Anglo in charge of the Board of Racial Purity decides you don't get to keep your White card. Do your morals, values and principles suddenly go out the window now that you aren't part of the master race?
The only "identity" you should be concerned with is that of your nation as a whole. Being white, black or purple means nothing if you're nation is maximum pozz'd. Look at Germany or the UK. It's whites who are letting mudshits rape their children and bomb their citizens. You can blame DA JOOs for corrupting them, the muds for jihading them, but at the end of the day its whites who are harming each other the most by LETTING this happen, by WANTING it to happen. They've been brainwashed to hate their own race and seeing the opposite reaction from those people they also hate ideologically only further cements their own self righteous suicide.
>>69768845
The alt right is a meme term used by people who don't know what to describe themselves as politically
It's both anti gay and neutral gay because alt right is not one ideology
>"alt-right"
Cool buzzword
>>69768845
Fags are such attention whores they'd rather be actively hated than ignored.
>>69775720
That's why most of them to decide to be gay. They can't accept themselves, so they need constant validation by others, and usually that comes in the form of being used and dominated in the hopes that they will have taken their shriveled lives and done a good job pleasing somebody else.
>>69768845
People will always need to disparage homosex because it's gross. Acting like its normal is the first step on the road to degeneracy.
>>69776570
Fucking
![436f8b8cb8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GYIpBOi.jpg "436f8b8cb8[1].jpg")
Alt-right trans qts are welcome in my bed
Alt cucks get off my board
Back to baddit fighting your SJW minions
""""We""""" here know the real enemy: Jews
A group of people that reject the leftist destruction of society don't follow the leftist mantra of gay acceptance? Shocking!
Try Reddit, faggot.
>>69770566
Kill yourself AIDS carrying faggot.
The alt right is full of autistic shit heads. Watching a millennial woes live stream proves it. You are no better than BLM and sjw's.
the alt-right hates the oppressive thought censoring of mainstream politics, so it rebels against it. What's offensive and completely unthinkable in Liberal culture? Being racist, sexist, or homophobic. So expressing those views is the ultimate catharsis from the chains of our modern feminist culture.
Ergo, you are a faggot.
>>69778669
>what is the aim of marriage
A whole bunch of benefits you get from the state. You'd have to be retarded not to want them and you also won't be fucked over by courts favoring women since your spouse will be the same as you.
>>69772782
Yeah naw this, dad an immigrant, redpilled as fuck, worked all his life, in Finland and abroad exept for 5 years as pesh officer. Raised all his mudblood kids to be loyal to Finland, basically only foreing values he taught us were proper family ones which seem rarer and rarer in the west. Were all hard working, Finland loving (not the govt, the nation) people but nooooo not pure enough. Just wait a few minutes before some other finn tells us to gtfo. I hate the left and the right hates me and my family. Oh well.
>>69779431
did you even read the text?
>>69779602
I did. It's pretentious and nonsensical because it ignores what gay want out of marriage. They're not some pathetic group trying to imitate heterosexuals. They're just looking out for their own material interest.
2 guys can live together and adopt a kid (or not) and be whatever kind of family they want but the law will still fuck them over because they lack a piece of paper from the state. Marriage really isn't that much of a big deal these days. People enter it and discard practically on a whim as it suits their interest at the moment.
Why judge gays for seeing this farce and wanting their slice of the pie?
>>69779564
It's ok. You will be gassed gently and with respect.
>>69779983
We'll use nitrous oxide on him so he goes out literally laughing himself to death.
>>69779919
Gay here. I got married so that my boyfriend has immigration rights and doesn't get deported if he loses his job. That was the sole reason. I think most people get married for bullshit reasons.
>>69780160
That is kind of a bullshit reason, though. Best way to get to live where I live is to marry one of our own.
I don't think that's really in keeping with the intent of marriage or immigration.
>>69768845
The tent is too wide for the alt-right so we're gonna get degenerates and dumb fucks that will co-opt the movement just like what happened to libertarians.
TRS made this apparent when Enoch made Dante a mod on the forums and then blamed his homosexuality on his autism, claiming he can't tell genders apart.
>>69779919
>it ignores what gay want out of marriage
who gives a shit what they want?
they can't have what marriage is for, what they call sex isn't and they can never have a baby together
it's fucking retarded, and yes, homosexuality is still a mental illness. bullying and intimidating a bunch of doctors into removing it from teh list doesn't count
>>69780274
I'm married to an American. So we can move to the US later on, too.
And no, that's one of the purposes of marriage. To legally recognize families and ensure they can stay together.
>>69779919
I'm actually against gay men adopting children. Basically because SOME (a small number) will inevitably be pedophiles and will give the rest of us a bad name.
And of the small number of gay men who want to adopt, a higher proportion will be the pedophiles. That's why those Australian gays and those British gays turned out to be pedos.
There's no really good positive payoff if gays adopt kids (there aren't many of us) and there's a strong negative payoff. So I'm okay with a ban on gay men adopting.
>>69780435
>To legally recognize families and ensure they can stay together.
Absolutely. But when it becomes the easiest way to immigrate, then it stops being marriage and starts being a way to immigrate.
I don't care if it's homosexual or heterosexual; it still perverts marriage to have marriage be the easiest "in."
>>69780596
Marriage has always been used for immigration. Just talk to Donald Trump!
But in our case, we just wanted to be together. I mean, how desperate do you think Americans are to move to the UK? I can tell you: not very.
The point of marriage is to legally recognize a family relationship. Having immigration recognize marriage isn't perverting it: it's the whole fucking point.
>>69768845
The thing about gays is that the only tolerable ones are those who you never or rarely know they're gay.
I've had acquitances that I knew that they were gay and they were unbearable.
I have a friend that I didn't know he was gay until I met his bf. We all ignored the fact they both were gay 15 mins after.
Dunno if you see the point.
>>69780274
>intent of marriage
That's entirely irrelevant. Heteros have been abusing the "intent of marriage" since the whole thing was invented. It's a legal and economic contract that can be used for various reasons.
>>69780424
>who gives a shit what they want?
Who gives a shit what you want? Everyone and their mother fights to get as much as they can from the state yet gays are somehow evil and perverting marriage and whatever? At least somebody wants to get married and have a family unlike fucking heteros who are divorcing each other in record number and increasingly refuse to even enter marriage.
>>69780088
Naw but please elaborate with this. See, would push come to shove(your day of the rope or similiar), I am military trained like most finns and guns are never that far away here. Are you willing to pit me, a potential ally, against you, solely because of a small genetic difference, which isn't even visible. What would you possibly win with this?
>>69768845
>we can be some of their best allies
No, the only good gays are the self loathing ones. Gay pride is full of ultra lefties that are on the same intelligence as Stacy, there's no point in catering to them and not wanting to hurt their feewings
>>69780728
But this is basically horse shit. I estimate the average straight guy will tell me he is straight within ten minutes of a conversation.
He won't say "I'm heterosexual" but he'll mention his wife, his kids, his girlfriend, or some girl he thinks is cute. Straight guys do that the WHOLE FUCKING TIME.
I have good friendships with straight guys and easily get on with them because I am totally direct. I just act like they act. I mention my husband the same way they mention their wives. And they don't give a shit.
Straight guys aren't dumb, they can usually tell if someone is gay-ish. And like everyone they prefer honesty.
>>69780795
It's a joke. Maybe you need better Finnish humor. I can't speak for everyone in my country, but immigrants who bust their asses have my utmost respect. That's how my family did it back in the day.
Then again that was when we had a real immigration process.
Fuck off degenerate, you'll be the first in the gas chambers.
>>69768845
>alt-right
no such thing. ''right wing'' is liberalism, globalism, capitalism and conservatism, i.e things in opposition to nationalism.
>>69780725
We really shouldn't have to care about a few people marrying in here or there any more than we should have to care about a few people being gay here or there. The real problem is that it's made to be abused so that we have to argue about things we all mostly agree about in order to push an ulterior agenda.
>>69768845
Its more that fags get more attention than they deserve.
The entire LGBTBBQ demographic is such a small percentage of the overall population they might as well not exist. The only reason you know about them is because the media is obsessed with talking about the noble and oppressed fags.
>>69780792
you didn't respond to my claim that homo is still a mental illness
I think there's a huge difference between an effeminate homosexual who exudes his homosexuality at every turn and a gay person talking about his boyfriend in mixed company. I think a lot of you "just don't tell me about it" people will still react negatively just to hearing that some guy has a boyfriend which is completely unfair. I agree that gays shouldn't necessarily make everything about their sexuality but they also shouldn't be forced to treat their sexuality like a dirty little secret just to make all the cool kids on the alt-right accept them. I think a lot of you people disdain even the "acceptable" gays who simply refer to their boyfriend because it makes you uneasy
>>69780435
>So I'm okay with a ban on gay men adopting.
unfortunately you can't pick and choose "equality", now teh jews have decided that gays are just the same as normals, adoption is a moot point
>>69781047
>The entire LGBTBBQ demographic is such a small percentage of the overall population
Gays represent roughly 3% of the US Population. That is more than Jews (2%) and Muslims (.8%) combined
>>69781116
>3%
heh, no. fake statistics.
>>69780855
I'm very annoyed by people that tell me I should marry and then they complain about their wives.
The thing I dislike about gays is them trying to push their agenda onto us when they're fine on their own. But they want the benefits of being straight and able to reproduce without any of the contributions.
Like I said, I don't care if I acknowledge if someone's gay. Like it happened with this particular friend of mine I never knew up until that point and I didn't care after, because he didn't make his sexuality affect me.
>>69781047
>Its more that fags get more attention than they deserve.
You do realize that gays have been completely thrown out of their own right movement, correct?
"LGBTWTFBBQ" has been completely taken over by the trannies, SJWS, race warriors and feminists for quite a while now. They've given up pretending to give a shit about gay rights.
Case in point: North Carolina. Nobody gave a shit when states enacted anti-gay laws or banned abortions, even.
But tell creepy trannies to stay out of women's toilets and all hell breaks loose! Federal funding gets cut! What the fuck!
Because it's all about the trannies and special snowflakes now.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/03/25/stonewall-criticises-nus-for-resolution-to-do-away-with-gay-mens-reps/
>>69781079
Exactly. Nobody should be in the fucking closet. And you know what? Nobody respects someone who's ashamed of themselves.
>>69780435
>I'm actually against gay men adopting children. Basically because SOME (a small number) will inevitably be pedophiles and will give the rest of us a bad name.
That's honestly your reasoning? Do you realize that sexual abuse is relatively common in straight foster homes? Yet we still give foster homes children without the "stigma"
Every adoptive parent should be monitored and thoroughly screened. That includes homosexuals and heterosexuals, and homosexuals who wish to adopt children should be praised for doing so, not prevented because you faultily believe they are more likely to molest children (they are not)
The VAST majority of same-sex child molestation comes from a relative of the child who is generally straight and married, so it wouldn't help children at all to keep gays from adopting them.
http://www.childsafeeducation.com/statistics.html
>>69781051
That's because it isn't and even it were it would such a slight and irrelevant thing that it would barely be worth noting
>>69781146
You're right. Pretty much every reputable group says it's closer to 4% (3.8%)
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-22/americans-vastly-overestimate-size-of-lgbt-population
http://www.gallup.com/poll/183383/americans-greatly-overestimate-percent-gay-lesbian.aspx
>>69781167
>But they want the benefits of being straight and able to reproduce without any of the contributions.
That is fucking bullshit.
If anything, I'm paying taxes for STRAIGHT PEOPLE'S kids to go to school and get welfare and for their tax relief. I'm supporting you fucking breeders, here.
Now, sure, you can argue that's just the price we pay for a civilized society. But the welfare is going from ME to YOU.
>>69781245
There again, I think we're looking at the wrong problem. The real problem is the child trafficking industry. Just because a child might be better off with homos doesn't mean that child isn't going to be missing out, developmentally, on having a proper mother figure and a proper father figure.
>>69781316
>reputable group
Nope. If a jew not on a leash is involved, it's not reputable.
>>69781320
I don't have kids and I don't complain about paying for other peoples' kids. In fact the cost to pay for other peoples' kids is basically nothing compared to how much I pay to the Jews who own the Federal Reserve Bank.
Stop being so us vs. them about it.
>>69781245
> homosexuals who wish to adopt children should be praised for doing so, not prevented because you faultily believe they are more likely to molest children (they are not)
Unfortunately, they are. And the reason for this is kind of subtle.
This isn't because ALL homosexuals are more likely to be child molesters. But of the HOMOSEXUAL MALE COUPLES WHO WANT TO ADOPT, a higher proportion will be pedophilic gay men who've got together over a shared deviant desire.
And that's what happened in Australia and England, unfortunately. Some of the very first gay couples do adopt kids turned out to be child molesters.
Since we can't screen perfectly, I'm fine with adopting some heuristics to protect people (children and the reputation of gay men). Let's ban gay men from adopting, just like we should ban, say, Muslims from the airline industry.
>>69768845
Filthy sodomite. As if we would want to associate with the likes of you. Your kind is the very reason our society has degenerated to the point it has.
You fucks should have stayed in the closet.
>>69780898
Yeah well, your sentiment is not shared here.
>>69781320
Just A FRACTION of your taxes go to said straight people's kids. And straight people's kids is the thing that can perpetuate the existence of a society. Cause, you know, if everybody was gay...
>>69781276
>That's because it isn't
do you accept that it used to be considered as such?
>>69781245
1/3rd of molestations are of boys, gays are only 1-2% of the population
>>69781454
>This isn't because ALL homosexuals are more likely to be child molesters.
they are though see >>69781583
>>69781499
>look at my strawman meme image
>can we have more refugees now?
>>69781552
I don't see any particular value in perpetuating the human race. Most people are born by accident, and straight people don't deserve any credit for putting penis into vagine.
>>69781583
It doesn't follow that a guy molesting a young boy is gay. Actually, many societies (ancient greeks, papua new guinea, arabs) have about all older men fucking young boys at some point. That's called pederasty and it's different from homosexuality.
>>69781499
If you don't like where you are, you can always move. It's never been easier in the history of the modern world.
There are places in the world I enjoy visiting, but I know I wouldn't be happy there because I'm not like the people who live there in one way or another. I could even move somewhere in my own country and not fit in.
>>69781555
>used to be
That's the key phrase in your sentence. It also used to be accepted that women suffered from "female hysteria" and the treatment for it masturbation. I could fish you our a lot of absurd things that used to be accepted in history.
>>69768845
I don't know about the others, but I'm okay with gays as long as they aren't faggots.
Based Milo is the exception I guess, he makes up for being a jewish faggot.
>>69781677
>I don't see any particular value in perpetuating the human race.
Well, that's kind of why a lot of people don't hold the same views you do. I don't know if you're necessarily right or wrong. Like I said, I don't have kids. But you have to understand that this kind of thing is why the rest of us write you off on a stereotype that usually is true.
>>69768845
Gays just have to be accepted everywhere but your anti-faggot opinion can't be accepted anywhere.
They are trying to SJW the right.
All fags need to be burnt at the stake.
>>69768845
I'm gay.
I'm alt-right.
A large portion on here is exaggerate venting/memery, some of it is legit irrational hate/dislike, some of it is legit reasoned hate/dislike that I agree with.
A large portion of gay culture is fucked up. A lot of degeneracy and promiscuity. I fucking hate it. A lot of people realise that it isn't a gay culture only thing though, just look at fucking tindr, Myley Cyrus and Nikki Minaj. Western Culture in general is going down the shitter.
Believe it or not but I would estimate the majority of white gay males will side with conservatives or the alt-right publicly soon. SJW's and the LGBTQIWTF have already turned on us because of all our privilege. Most of us aren't irrational idiots either, and see Islam as a danger and actually understand how fucked the economies are. Add a bit of resentment for how liberals act like they own us and we're willing to swap sides en masse. Don't be too dickish to them, and don't over-sterotype them too much and they'll be willing allies who are immune to a lot of the attacks used against most of the conservatives. Yes there are a decent number who want to pop pills and fuck/get-fucked as much as possible. Plenty of straight people like that too. Plenty of gay guys who just want to live a 'normal' life, but with another guy instead of an irrational shebeast.
Oh, the younger generations will be a problem though. Schools and social media have done a number on them. No idea how to approach that. Scares me to be honest. We need some more traditional/conservative minds in charge around the world. Bring a bit of rationality and modesty back to the world, instead of fee fees and fucking everything that moves.
>>69781677
>I don't see any particular value in perpetuating the human race
And then you wonder how come straight people might tend to dislike you.
>>69781779
In fact, I came to that conclusion before I accepted I was gay (I spent up till the age of 19 trying to like girls). But the whole "we need to keep the human race going" argument always came off as bullshit.
Lots of species go extinct. Our time will come soon enough. The dinosaurs going extinct wasn't a bad thing, neither will the extinction of humans. It's just a thing that happens.
>>69781326
Right, but don't blame homosexuals for that, they're providing an alternative that doesn't mean they are contributing to the original family break-up. It sucks when any child loses their parents for whatever reason but that has nothing whatsoever to do with gay adoption and the reality is that this stuff happens often and we need as many proficient adoptive couples to be ready to take in children as possible.
>>69781454
> But of the HOMOSEXUAL MALE COUPLES WHO WANT TO ADOPT, a higher proportion will be pedophilic gay men who've got together over a shared deviant desire.
I just don't see any proof of that whatsoever. The vast majority of men who molest boys are married, trusted family members. People who see that most child molesters are male and that 30-40% of children molested are also male faultily label all of these molestors as homosexual when in reality the majority of them are married family friends or relatives.
of course individual cases exist, but I don't think there's any proof that homosexual men are more likely to adopt a child with the explicit purpose of child molestation than heterosexual couples (which happens more often than anyone would like to think and doesn't receive the same press)
>>69781583
Again, see above. The men who molest boys are for the most part married, with children of their own - http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html
The alt right is as retsrded as a sea turtle with one arm.
Fuck them
>the alt-right is too gay
Anyway if Milo wants to keep forcing his shitty articles here he can deal with getting called a faggot for it
>>69781902
So perhaps you and I are alike in that we know that's a toxic way of thinking that should not be passed on to children.
>>69770549
>most of us
Neither of us know what most think. There is nothing that disqualifies homos from alt right positions. Neo-Nazis riding the alt right train are a different story but we could argue about their prevalence too.
>>69781831
You're ascribing my views to my sexual orientation, with no evidence.
Why should straight people come to an irrational conclusion any more than gay people?
There are plenty of straight people who said the same thing. Aristotle, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche.
And plenty of gays who think we DO need to keep humanity going, for some mistaken reason.
>>69781930
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>>69781930
right you are, night elf's clit hood
>>69768845
>Ghoul
Has that stuttering twat ever completed a sentence?
>>69781928
>The vast majority of men who molest boys are married, trusted family members.
That's how most crime works. That's why you don't tell your friends or your family where you hid your gold. And that's why it's a very dangerous game to lend them money.
Sad but true, as you have correctly noticed in the case of innocent children.
>>69781995
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>>69781928
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>>69781608
Just to follow up on this because I think it's a very important point- the VAST majority of men who molest boys are married, identify as heterosexual and do so not out of sexual attraction but an abuse of power
>Only 8 percent report that they are exclusively homosexual. The majority of the men who molest boys are also married, divorced, widowed, or living with an adult.
http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pdfs/study.pdf
>>69781930
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>>69768845
You'll be put up against a wall soon enough, faggot.
>>69768845
what the hell are you rambling about you degenerate fucking canadian faggot go end your life before you post here again
>>69781988
'What is a good life?'
A lot of people, consciously or not, consider the next or future generations in this. Probably less likely for gay individuals as the possibility of continuing your lineage is more limited.
I'm not sure it's accurate to say their reasoning is flawed/mistaken though.
>>69781928
>I don't think there's any proof that homosexual men are more likely to adopt a child with the explicit purpose of child molestation than heterosexual couples
Basic logic suggests that they are more likely to do this.
> Proposition 1. A lower proportion of gay couples want to adopt kids than straight couples.
> Proposition 2. A certain proportion of gay couples will be pedophiles. 100% will want to adopt children.
> Proposition 3. A similar proportion of straight couples will be pedophiles. 100% will want to adopt children.
Therefore, the fraction of gay couples who want children and are pedophiles will be higher than the fraction of straight couples who want children and are pedophiles.
It's basically a denominator problem.
>>69768845
No, gays are deranged animals and they're bad for society. They need to be hanged. The alt-right is largely about being respectable, traditional and having strong families. It's not just hating on foreigners.
Fuck off, leaf man.
WE NEED SHITDICKS DUDE :^))))
>>69781988
>notallfaggots#
fuck off and die anglo dirt i hope you shitdick faggots get aids and die asap
>>69781499
>>69772782
The problem is fracturing and uncertainty.
In the UK at least we have so much immigration BECAUSE there was so much immigration. It's the fracturing of a decent sized unit of trust, stability and extended family. Race is a good unit, nation is a good unit. Neither of these things need to be altered to create a "better, more peaceful, magical world" but the left are manipulative and have played a deliberate trick of divide and conquer in accordance with their dogmatic religion "leftism"
> The most annoying thing is how does one who wants to be part of the nation, even if not of the host nations race, NOT become an ADVERT for the lefts dirty games (which have no guarantee of resulting in magical peace on earth, possibly the opposite) of advertising for others to come and fracture the group further.
>>69782218
The best life is not to be born, as you can't suffer.
Inflicting life on someone is morally wrong, as it inevitably causes them to suffer. On the other hand, not creating someone doesn't do them any harm.
This is basically what everyone after Aristotle said.
The fact is that people don't have kids because they want them to have good lives. Somalian women living in starvation pump out kids. In fact, the better off people are, the fewer kids they have.
People have kids because they're programmed that way, but that programming can be overcome.
>>69782038
Underrated
>>69769132
Define alt right
>>69768845
The new Jew tactic is to gay the alt-right.
>>69768845
join our /polgb/ Skype group? We are all alt-right and VOTING TRUMP
https://join.skype.com/FX2zfMjQ1HTc
>>69781988
Because its a fun game with lots of lost limbs and odd sensations.
> It's kind of like a game of rapeTag
Your no fun.
>>69781677
>It doesn't follow that a guy molesting a young boy is gay
hahahaha, goddamn your deluded. It's fun watching you're mental gymnastics though
>>69781745
ok, so you do accept it used to be. have you heard the tale of how it was removed?
>>69781820
>A large portion of gay culture is fucked up
all of it
>>69781928
>The men who molest boys are for the most part married, with children of their own
you can't be gay if you are married with children?
astonishing
>>69782158
>Just to follow up on this because I think it's a very important point- the VAST majority of men who molest boys are married, identify as heterosexual and do so not out of sexual attraction but an abuse of power
>
>>Only 8 percent report that they are exclusively homosexual. The majority of the men who molest boys are also married, divorced, widowed, or living with an adult.
I don't believe you, your view is against logic
your mind is perverted with lies that make you feel better about the world
>>69782359
>The best life is not to be born, as you can't suffer.
incoherent babbling of a nihilist
>>69782428
yep
>>69782359
>In fact, the better off people are, the fewer kids they have.
I hate myself as much as you do, but you have problems you need to talk about. Setting aside the octomoms and the somalis, I can't think of anybody I know who isn't the happiest ever due to having kids and trying to bring them up.
It's a difficult ride, but even the kids elsewhere in my family like me and want me around. It's tough, but you have to man up and do it.
>>69781988
>You're ascribing my views to my sexual orientation, with no evidence.
No. I'm stating that as a heterosexual male I'm prone to perpetuate my existence through my lineage. It's a natural behaviour. It's imprinted in our DNA. Even non-sentient beings fight to reproduce and to perpetuate. So, behaviours that jeopardize this instinct shouldn't be expected to be condoned or pandered by the people with the opposite goals.
Like I said I don't care about individuals and their sexuality, as long as it remains theirs. I do worry about promotion of homosexuality tho.
>There are plenty of straight people who said the same thing
>Aristotle
There are plenty of retarded statements through history. Like Aristotle's thinking that menstrual blood was fecundated by the semen.
Also Nietzsche changed many of his views as he grew older.
None of these philosophers' ideas have remained verbatim as absolute truths. They were steps towards better understandings, nothing else. There are still plenty of schools of thought and you don't have to agree with them all or everything they say.
>>69782516
>have you heard the tale of how it was removed?
How it was removed is not relevant to the validity of the claim.
>>69782516
> hahahaha, goddamn your deluded.
So is your position that in societies where pederasty is common, nearly 100% of men are actually homosexual? Including men with 5 wives, 15 kids, etc?
> incoherent babbling of a nihilist
It's morally wrong to procreate. What's incoherent about that claim?
I mean, you can disagree, but claiming not to understand it is just SJW-tier "OMG I can't even" crap.
It's not nihilistic either. Nihilism is the position that nothing matters or is meaningful. I'm saying that suffering and harm does matter, and life has negative moral value.
>>69769007
>>69769022
Speak for yourselves, faggots. How can someone who represents degeneracy and refuses to contribute to white birth rates be on your side? Gays are just Trojan horses into the alt right. Of you accept gays then you're no better than a cuckservative who sells out his moral beliefs for popularity. The alt-right isn't for you. Go back to being a Republican.
>>69782715
>life has negative moral value.
So what do you think. Should we have a space program or not?
>>69769520
Yes let's welcome new people, aka immigrants to our movement. They won't assimilate and stop fucking dudes, but at least we'll have warm bodies to carry signs at rallies
>>69782224
>A lower proportion of gay couples want to adopt kids than straight couples.
I disagree with that point. There are far less homosexual couples out there, and I think the percentage of ones who do want to adopt is probably pretty similar or even higher than those heterosexual couples seeking to adopt per capita
>>69782516
>you can't be gay if you are married with children?
sure you can but it appears that open homosexuals do not molest children any more than any other group and that's who we're talking about. Again, child molestation often has little to do with gender and everything to do with power. Before pubescence there are less gender differences anyway so most pedophiles are attracted to either male or female children
>I don't believe you, your view is against logic
That doesn't mean it's against facts
>>69781629
>Strawman
Naww slav, despite my dads specialized job and skills (translator, fluent in +15 languages and dialects) I have been complained that he's stealing finnish jobs. Then again, would he quit, he would just be too lazy to work.
Due to his job, he works DAILY with the police and immigrants, which in combination of him being redpilled has left me quite bitter taste about immigration in general.
Would our SJW's who demand more immigration actually listen this mans opinions and experience on immigration, it might be a little less bitter, but no.
>dont let kids hang out with minorities
>dont even teach kids durka languages
>drill into them from the start that they are first and foremost finns
But you can probably see why this wont fly in the SJW crowd.
>>69782359
That's a very nihilistic viewpoint.
You only consider the negatives, suffering.
What about the positives? Are not proper parents craftsmen in a way, instead of working with wood they are working with small bundles of potential. Should they not ascribe to and then take joy in crafting a masterpiece? In bringing a life into the world. Raising it to be a good person. Seeing them overcome struggles. Seeing them being happy. Successfully teaching them the same craft, and see them work on their own masterpieces?
There is most certainly biological and evolutionary programming at play. But that is not the be all and end all for everyone.
As a side note I sadly think the craft of parenting is becoming a lost one. Cared about less and less.
>>69782576
>No. I'm stating that as a heterosexual male I'm prone to perpetuate my existence through my lineage. It's a natural behaviour. It's imprinted in our DNA.
No, you aren't. Now, you have an instinct to fuck a vagine, but the reality of fatherhood in many societies is
> man fucks woman
> man leaves
> woman brings up kids with family
Your instincts are to fuck, not to procreate.
> Even non-sentient beings fight to reproduce and to perpetuate. So, behaviours that jeopardize this instinct shouldn't be expected to be condoned or pandered by the people with the opposite goals.
This is the naturalist fallacy.
Your instincts have no moral weight. I've experienced the instinctive feeling I should rape people and murder people. Maybe if it was 10,000 BC I'd have done it. But that doesn't mean I SHOULD.
>>69782575
Science says otherwise.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/08/11/the-most-depressing-statistic-imaginable-about-being-a-new-parent/
>>69782958
yeah nigger societies
>>69782958
>Science says
The last resort of the faithless.
I'M THE TRUTH OPEN YOUR EYES
I'M YOUR REASON ALIBIS
I'M INSIDE OPEN YOUR EYES
I'M YOU
SAD BUT TRUE
>>69768845
If you gobel cock it's your thing
If you have a political pov that isn't comfortable with your lifestyle you should consider killing your self you leafy ass faggot
Your worthless anyways
>>69782669
well, I'll tell you then
In Destructive Trends in mental health, respected veterans of the mental health industry Rogers H.Wright and Nicholas A.Cummings sought to educate consumers, practitioners, and policy makers about a variety of recent issues and trends that have significantly changed the mental health fields in America. They got established and revered practitioners to write chapters which explore these important issues. The following regarding the removal of homosexuality from the DSM in 1973 was written as a matter of verifiable fact:
“The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association yielded suddenly and completely to political pressure when in 1973 it removed homosexuality as a treatable aberrant condition. A political firestorm had been created by gay activists within psychiatry, with intense opposition to normalizing homosexuality coming from a few outspoken psychiatrists who were demonized and even threatened, rather than scientifically refuted. Psychiatry’s House of Delegates sidestepped the conflict by putting the matter to a vote of the membership, marking for the first time in the history of healthcare that a diagnosis or lack of diagnosis was decided by popular vote than by scientific evidence…”(page 9)
https://homosexualityandscience.wordpress.com/2013/09/14/the-truth-on-how-homosexuality-was-removed-from-the-dsm-by-apa-commentary-on-dr-yiks-response-to-lawrence-khong/
intimidation and bullying, NOT NEW EVIDENCE
>>69782952
The only certainty is that if you have a child, that child will suffer and die.
Imagine life as a lottery ticket. You have a certain chance of being happy at some points, but you also have a chance of experiencing great suffering, and a certainty of an unpleasant death.
Would you sign someone up for this lottery without them knowing or consenting? No, that would be morally wrong.
It's wrong to inflict life on people without their consent, and since you can't consent to being born, it follows nobody should ever have children.
Basically, you're trying to rationalize evolved biology in moral terms, and you're always going to run up against this morality problem. Just like the SJWs trying to pretend the races and sexes are equal when they obviously aren't. You can't inject morals into a reality that doesn't give a shit about them.
Nature is an evil, sexist, racist, immoral, cruel bitch, and the only rational human response is to opt out.
>>69780160
w-wuts it like being gay married?
That's my dream. And I want to have 2 biological kids with surrogacy. One mine one his.
>>69783263
So you don't want to be alive and you blame your parents for hurting you?
>>69781930
My mom and dad went to Cuisinart resort some years ago and loved it
>>69783214
But there was no reason for homosexuality to be in the DSM in the first place.
There's no good definition of a mental illness. It's all political about what society likes and dislikes.
>>69768845
Concern troll, GTFO
>>69781690
But I love to be just right here and want to grow good little Finns myself. Im not gonna leave just cause some people don't like this one miniscule detail in my background. So far the miniscule amount of racism encoutered, whereas I feel has been wrongly directed at me and family, has usually striven me to outwhite the whites. Sure I might not be the most shining beacon of the aryan/mongol race, but atleast I try to earn my place in this world, not crying gibsmedats.
>>69768845
Slay gays!
BIG TENT IS GOOD MAN
IT WORKS JUST LOOK AT LIBERTARIANISM
HAVING STANDARDS IS FOR IDIOTS
Gay men are, first and foremost, MEN. They work, build, investigate, innovate, invent. Many of Western Civilization's greatest thinkers and creators have been gay. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Lesbians, on the other hand, are pretty much the foulest creatures ever created. The SJW movement wouldn't even exist without legions of personality-disordered, emotionally unstable lezzos screaming and whining their way into the public spotlight with their increasingly-hysterical demands.
So, always remember: Bros before hoes.
t. some straight dude
>>69782715
>So is your position that in societies where pederasty is common, nearly 100% of men are actually homosexual?
yes
>It's morally wrong to procreate. What's incoherent about that claim?
if you followed your own logic, you would have killed yourself
you do not follow your own logic, because it is incoherent babble
your probably a kike attempting to further the Genocide of Whites
>>69782915
>Again, child molestation often has little to do with gender and everything to do with power. Before pubescence there are less gender differences anyway so most pedophiles are attracted to either male or female children
what a nice smokescreen you have invented to cover reality with, you even have a new word to define homosexuality with a child
>That doesn't mean it's against facts
it is though
>>69782958
>in many societies
you mean nigger societies? they aren't people
>>69768845
>it's mostly up to childless people to take the risks that breeders aren't always able to take themselves
>breeders
Is that newspeak for straight people now?
>>69768845
Being a white supremacist is fucking retarded.
You will never fuck any kawaii loyal japanese traps? That sounds a little gay to me.
>>69783385
I'd like to visit Finland someday, but I've never been there so I can't tell you what's going wrong.
One of the reasons I like where I'm at right now is because I can fit in well even though I'm from a different place. The world is a big place, and sometimes you don't even have to move but a little bit to find where you fit in.
>>69783320
No. The concept of "blame" is also a bunch of crap. We don't have free will - you can't believe in a deterministic physical universe and moral responsibility at the same time.
My parents obeyed their biological programming and brought me into the world. I'm going to suffer and die as a result. So is everyone.
The only thing I can reasonably do is try to help others and encourage others not to breed.
![017-coo-coo-bird[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ThcyDVZ.jpg "017-coo-coo-bird[1].jpg")
>>69782958
>Your instincts are to fuck, not to procreate.
Now you're projecting. I'd love to have a family and to have kids to pass my wisdom onto them.
What you describe is an awful nigger society and it didn't exist in the good old white days.
Gregary species move in packs, because they know the useful value of breeding as groups. Humans gave morals to those groups and called it family.
If you've never felt the inconditional love of a mother or the stern protection of a father then maybe that's why you're fucking gay.
>I've experienced the instinctive feeling I should rape people and murder people.
I wish you started with this. Not wanting to perpetuate society or the human race, wanting to rape and murder.
You're a mentally ill person. If your plan was to advocate for homosexuality is failing pretty hard.
Not going to lose more time with a guy that's fucked in the head.
>>69783263
>the only rational human response is to opt out.
why haven't you then?
>>69783329
>But there was no reason for homosexuality to be in the DSM in the first place.
oh really? you mean all the psychiatrists were wrong about it? and the correct way to make them see their error was to intimidate them? storm their conference and demand to be pandered to?
>>69783582
Do you read? I would like to suggest a very short and interesting book to you.
>>69783297
>w-wuts it like being gay married?
>That's my dream. And I want to have 2 biological kids with surrogacy. One mine one his.
It's insane faggots are allowed to have kids, makes me feel ill. If you weren't a subhuman selfish piece of garbage you wouldn't even think of putting anyone through that. Absolutely Disgusting
>>69783582
>We don't have free will
you can't prove or disprove that
>>69771031
Reddit, its always fucking Reddit.
As soon as a youtuber gets a dedicated sub they go straight to pandering garbage.
>>69783263
>Would you sign someone up for this lottery without them knowing or consenting?
I would if I was confident I could rig the odds. If I had the monetary means and the time to put more than the required effort into it, then yes, yes I would have and raise a child.
If that makes me an immoral person in your eyes, then so be it. In a universe where nature IS an evil, sexist, racist, immoral, cruel bitch then I would chose to make a stand and give life to, and put time, effort, knowledge and resources into raising a person to be better than I. To raise a person who will go against the current of nature and make the lives of those they come into contact with better.
I do not believe that the universe HAS to be all those things you described. I do not think that I can live long enough to meaningfully change it though. But maybe if I raise my child right they will see the effects of my effort. And their child will see the effects of their parent's effort. Until one day generations from now a child is born to my lineage that lives in a universe that is not those things you described.
If I am not highly confident I can craft such a child though, then I will not attempt to do so.
>>69783483
>what a nice smokescreen you have invented to cover reality with, you even have a new word to define homosexuality with a child
I've provided ample sources to indicate you are incorrect
>>69783599
> Not wanting to perpetuate society or the human race, wanting to rape and murder.
I've wanted to do all of these things at various times. What's simply going on in my head doesn't have any moral weight, since the actions I carry out are moral ones. I have good mechanisms that stop me carrying out some darker impulses, like everyone. I often think about killing myself, but I'm not going to.
>>69783530
It's very, very old. Pre-gay rights in fact.
>>69783483
> he thinks near 100% of men are homosexual in some societies
Idiot
> if you followed your own logic, you would have killed yourself
No. Just because life is pointless suffering does not mean you should kill yourself. There's nothing morally wrong with suicide, but if I killed myself I wouldn't be able to help other people and it would cause others to suffer.
They dedicate their lives to running all of his.
He tries to please them all this bitter man he is.
Throughout his life the same, he's battled constantly.
This fight he cannot win, a tired man they see no longer cares.
>>69783610
> why haven't you then?
I have. I'm not having kids.
> oh really? you mean all the psychiatrists were wrong about it?
They weren't even wrong. Psychiatry is not a science. It's a set of prejudices about what "correct" behavior is. There's no objective right or wrong in it.
> the correct way to make them see their error was to intimidate them? storm their conference and demand to be pandered to?
Sure, why not. Lots of political disputes can only be resolved by violent force.
>>69783811
> I would if I was confident I could rig the odds. If I had the monetary means and the time to put more than the required effort into it, then yes, yes I would have and raise a child.
So this person you've entered into the lottery has a shit life and turns around to you and says, "Why did you inflict this on me?"
You can't just reply "I was playing the odds". It's wrong to gamble with other people's lives, and to do that kind of thing to them without their consent.
You labeled me. I labeled you.
So I dub thee, "unforgiven."
>>69783554
Whats going wrong is a fucked economy combined to mass media bombartment of SJW-ism creating a strong but divided response of hatred towards a shattered array of mostly misperceived enemies. Finns usually being submissive to one truth, don't seem to realize whom to blame outside of a blurred group of leftists and refugees. Divide and conquer. If you ever do visit here, I have to recommend midsummer, due to nightless nights, as opposed to wintertime and northern lights. Eternal summerdays for me personally, are the dearest and most magical thing about Finland.
Gotta take dog for a walk now.
>>69782770
Hey it's you again, the underage kiddo from the last thread!
>>69769982
Why would you want them to breed? They're obviously in possession of defective genes if they were susceptible to the mental disease of homosexuality. This way they are effectively self-sterilising.
>>69784174
I wouldn't go to Finland if I couldn't see the endless dark or the endless night swirl around me. That's a dream to me. Same with Antarctica.
But if it were the dark then I really want to spend some time there and really get to know the mood.
>>69783686
exactly
>>69783811
nature is neutral, it gives and takes, their is good and bad
>>69783857
>I've provided ample sources to indicate you are incorrect
one source? from some disgusting gay panderer?
just because someone is an academic or juorno, doesn't mena their opinion is worth more than my last shit(I'd tell you about my last shit, but it would only turn you on)
>>69783859
>No. Just because life is pointless suffering does not mean you should kill yourself. There's nothing morally wrong with suicide, but if I killed myself I wouldn't be able to help other people and it would cause others to suffer.
so you advocate for killing the unborn, but not yourself. It seems you have some positives in your life that make it worthwhile for you
perhaps you should dedicate your life to saving White people and their countries, since Whites are the most altruistic race, and detroying the savage low empathy cultures of Asia and Africa
>>69784038
>Sure, why not. Lots of political disputes can only be resolved by violent force.
mob rule and violence are the ways to change science, HURRRRRRRR
the liebereal is unveiled, a bully and a bigot
Bro don't even mind it
Nobody would care about the gays in here unless gayness wasn't walking hand in hand with hardcore leftism and degeneracy. Your sexuality has been co-opted by loons unfortunately, so you're going to have to endure the shit for a while. Don't worry, though, the based gays like you and milo will be saved when the day of the rope comes :^)
>>69784228
>you don't like faggotry
>you must be underage
>>69783720
Sure I can. The universe, including your brain, obeys the laws of physics. There's no room in there for free will. You have as much free will as a bowl of sugar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca7i-D4ddaw
>>69783214
And you think that proves something about homosexuality as mental illness? All you've proven here is that they used shitty tactics, not that they are wrong.
Again, simply look at all the things psychiatry used to accept as disorders not to mention the fucking treatments. These dipshits advocated lobotomies for minor personality quirks and to this day they remain the biggest enablers of Big Pharma with the overprescription of anti-depressants. People were locked up into insane asylums for completely irrelevant bullshit.
Not to mention that the whole issue is a massive red herring. Even if they are mentally ill, what relevance does that have for their marriages or whether or not we should tolerate them? Would you hate an autistic child because it has autism? Are you that morally bankrupt?
Alt rights are faggots
Who cares what they think
>>69784319
>mob rule and violence are the ways to change science, HURRRRRRRR
> Psychiatry
> """Science"""
fucking kek
Homosexuality wasn't put on the DSM through scientific experimental evidence, so why should it be taken off that way?
Psychiatry is about politics and ethics, and violence is a perfectly reasonable way of solving certain political disputes.
>>69784437
>You have as much free will as a bowl of sugar
That's what they call, "learned helplessness."
>>69784437
>Sure I can. The universe, including your brain, obeys the laws of physics. There's no room in there for free will
nothing about obeying the laws of physics prevents free will
give me arguments, not crappy vis I cfan't be arsed to watch... I have shitposting to do, faggot
>>69784449
Psychiatry has stopped listing transgenderism as a mental illness (although magically, they keep treating "dysphoria"). I mean, if thinking you're the opposite sex isn't a delusional mental illness, what the fuck is?!
It's all a bunch of bullshit.
DISGUSTING FAGS
>>69768845
>breeders
stopped reading right there faggot, fuck off my board degenerate
>>69784538
>violence is a perfectly reasonable way of solving certain political disputes.
t.liebereal faggot
>Homosexuality wasn't put on the DSM through scientific experimental evidence, so why should it be taken off that way?
how was it put on? presumably there was some discussion and some evidence presented?
>>69784613
You're drawing the knife in to your own neck. It's exactly like I said when I mentioned why some people decide to self-identify as gay.
You can come along if you want to, or you can cower in your shell until we cast you to drown in the sea.
>>69769428
Dude, Richard Spencer started the name Alternative Right.
>>69768845
you dont understand queer you are the corruption anti gay is pro white because any white man confused enough to think his sexual fetish is anything other than a failure of his own willpower or of his parents does not deserve any platform least of all this weeboo degenerate excuse for a man in the op
>>69784589
It should be obvious. A system where all particles obey the laws of physics does not have any room for free will. If we replayed the tape of history, everything would play out exactly the same, give or take some quantum uncertainty.
Other experiments have showed that your decision making is an illusion. You THINK you choose something but in fact a brain scan shows your decision was inevitable a few minutes before you "chose" it.
>>69784539
I find it's liberating. Religion is one kind of illusion, thinking we have free will is another kind. It means moral responsibility and blame are both crap. We can't blame people for obeying the laws of physics.
>>69768845
I don't care about faggotry but I have absolutely no patience for obvious shills.
If you had any morality at all you would not start this dispute in this way.
Let's grant your gripe, let Muslims take over because we were infighting, and then see if queers can fly.
>a faggot making everything about his faggotry.
wew lad
>>69784613
>Psychiatry has stopped listing transgenderism as a mental illness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
>GID is classified as a medical disorder by the ICD-10 CM[7] and DSM-5 (called gender dysphoria).
No it hasn't. It's listed as "Gender Identity Disorder" and it's very clearly recognized as a disorder. The only scientific conflict is over the exact cause of it.
Oh, and scientists have a different name for something than the general population really isn't surprising.
>>69784659
> t.liebereal faggot
I'm not really a "liberal". History shows that violence is usually the end result of intractable disputes.
>presumably there was some discussion and some evidence presented?
Of course not. It was put on there as a "self evident" sexual perversion. The fact that most people thought being gay was morally wrong was enough to make it a "mental illness". The whole thing was always unscientific.
>>69784711
Lack of logic. A preference for dick is not a delusional claim about reality.
>>69784795
>I find it's liberating. Religion is one kind of illusion, thinking we have free will is another kind. It means moral responsibility and blame are both crap. We can't blame people for obeying the laws of physics.
Good case of Marxist Relativism. And I'm not about to tell you that Newton was right. He was right enough for his time.
Just answer me if you like to read books or not.
>>69768845
Homosexuality is bad for society as it just creates another faction within the nation, as you have demonstrated. Homosexuality should be avoided and promoted against so that society stays whole. It takes little effort to split the whole when a group exists within that essentially has no stake in the future.
>>69784795
>give or take some quantum uncertainty.
I presume you have heard of chaos theory? sensitive dependence on initial conditions?
>Other experiments have showed that your decision making is an illusion. You THINK you choose something but in fact a brain scan shows your decision was inevitable a few minutes before you "chose" it.
you mean our brains chose it before we were aware of it? that doesn't preclude free will, since our brains still made the choice, and they are part of us
>>69784833
Exactly. I don't think most people care if they're gay, but that they use it as leverage. I don't recognize their gayness because I don't care, but if they want to be petty to get themselves extra shit, we're all going to lose. If OP cared, he would bite the bullet for the cause instead of shilling about it.
>>69784967
>A preference for dick is not a delusional claim about reality
Even women and gay men like dick
>>69784795
>thinking we have free will is another kind
you'll end up like the mudslimes, thinking that everything is pre-ordained, so why bother looking beforeyou cross the road
Fuck queers
Seriously
You're all cancer
You don't reproduce, you obsess over your sexual identity, and you're all raging leftists.
Fix yourselves you mentally ill freaks
>>69769816
Hitler is worse than Satan cause he was real....
>>69785127
HOLD THE BIBLE UP HIGH
THEN PUT IT BACK DOWN AND LIE
>>69785039
Sure. But a chaotic system does not have free will.
> you mean our brains chose it before we were aware of it?
It does preclude free will. It means the sensation we have of making a free choice is an illusion.
Sure, our brains are part of us, but they are just a collection of atoms, obeying the laws of physics. Nothing our brains do has any free choice to it.
>>69785024
Nothing marxist about pointing out the obvious implications of the laws of physics.
As an aside, I hate this idea that everything has to be marxist or capitalist. I mean it's 2016. We should've come up with more ideas about economics than this 19th century crap by now.
And yes I do like to read. You should watch that video though.
>>69785085
Just because everything is pre-ordained does not mean our actions don't matter. Obviously we can influence the future and other people.
>>69779349
Underrated post
>>69784967
>History shows that violence is usually the end result of intractable disputes.
your not a liebereal, but you advocate violence?
would you like it if we decided to be violent to wards you gays?
> It was put on there as a "self evident" sexual perversion. The fact that most people thought being gay was morally wrong was enough to make it a "mental illness".
it is a self evident perversion - it reduces birth rates and reduces the amount of our genes propagated. It's a form of infertility, mental infertility
>The whole thing was always unscientific.
yet you couldn't prove them wrong scientifically, you made them do wht you wanted through bullying
>>69785233
>Nothing our brains do has any free choice to it.
we compute facts and make decisions based on them. just because our brains decide before we know it consciously doesn't mean it wasn't us deciding
have you seen the recent experiment that replicates the double slit experiment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_RwcGzGurc
this guy thinks that this prove we live in a virtual reality and our consciousness is outside of this reality
is it proven? I don't know
>>69785411
But in that case why aren't the alt-right in favor of pedophilia? That's actually something the SJWs are edging towards.
>>69775347
Ya god damn faggot, alt-right is not a buzzword any more then conservative. It was made by Richard Spencer to describe the split from the "old" conservative right.
>>69785233
Can't we just agree that you're a huge nihilistic hedonistic faggot that has nothing to do with /pol/ and that most if not all of the points that are being discussed are subjective to one's point of view?
Also your logic of you thinking that we can only be programmed biobots is a huge fallacy for you believe the chemicals in your brain to tell you what they and you are.
All knowledge is based on that which we ultimately cannot prove.
Will you fight or perish like a dog?
Faggots are the biggest attention whores out there. First they demand ''acceptance'', then marriage rights, and now that nobody gives a fuck about them anymore they demand that people most opposed to their degeneracy accept them.
>>69768845
>pol, I feel I am one of you more than most of you are, and continuing to do good works is testing my faith.
Well, then go and die you faggot.
>>69785451
>it is a self evident perversion - it reduces birth rates and reduces the amount of our genes propagated. It's a form of infertility, mental infertility
But being infertile isn't a mental illness or a sexual perversion. Straight people can choose not to have children, that doesn't make them mentally ill, does it.
> would you like it if we decided to be violent to wards you gays?
That would be nothing new. Gays have always experienced violence.
> yet you couldn't prove them wrong scientifically, you made them do wht you wanted through bullying
That's perfectly reasonable. It was never a dispute about science in the first place. Psychiatry is not a science. It's a list of politically approved and disapproved behaviors.
These days we diagnose people who hate authority with "oppositional defiant disorder" and medicate them. Or little boys who don't pay attention during boring classes.
> we compute facts and make decisions based on them. just because our brains decide before we know it consciously doesn't mean it wasn't us deciding
Of course your brain decides, just like a computer decides. But there's no free will in that claim.
Free will would be if you could re-play the tape of history and expect someone to make a totally different choice, not pre-ordained by the starting physical conditions. We experience the sensation that we are making that kind of choice, but it isn't real.
>>69785754
Oy vey are you gay?
>>69780725
You're missing the point mate. People game the system just to get into their country of choice. This is not okay.
>>69768845
Shut up you studid fucking leaf faggot
the fact you take cock in the ass is irrelevant
you just want to atract all the cocks to your ass, and want to tell everyone everywhere that you are gay for them so that if any are desparate faggots then they will get to fuck ur ass and you will get more dick inside you
you are not a /pol/ack you are a crazed cock hungry stupid faggot leaf
now get the fuck out of /pol/ and back to the gaybar known as reddit where you belong you filthy fucking retard
homo is not something to be for or against, it is not something at all. it is nothing, not /pol/, not legitimate, nothing.
now fuck off, fucking leaf.
>>69785924
taking cock up the ass is very relevant.
>>69780935
What a fucking stupid post.
>>69768845
>Trying to Rant about Alt-Righters on a Political Shitflinging board
>>69786019
That's how they do "it" in Sweden. Let's not be racist.
>>69785924
>that thing i dont like?
>THAT MAKES ME ANGRY!
typical trump style blustering
/pol/ is not alt right and there are too many definitions of alt right going around at the moment. this political "movement" is not a monolith at all. There are some alt right people who are literal nazis, and there are others who may as well be neocons. It's a pointless term, honestly.
>>69768845
>The alt-right is too anti-gay
lel, what you don't realize is that the alt right is totally gay but closeted - that's where the homophobia comes from, it's just pure denial.
>>69768845
Sexual orientation doesn't affect any range of policies other than the choice of two men or two women to get married.
To decry to decline of marriage and hold your nose at gays and lesbians getting married is sort of shooting yourself in the foot.
The real torpedoe in the water is the Trans* ideology infecting the Leftie discourse at the moment. It's all about normalizing a mental illness with step by step legitimization by city ordinance here and an extension of "anti-discrimination" there.
>>69769132
>>69769572
A fucking kike
>>69785754
>But being infertile isn't a mental illness or a sexual perversion. Straight people can choose not to have children, that doesn't make them mentally ill, does it.
infertility can have several causes, we certainly shouldn't laud people who prefer not to have kids, either normals or disgusting scatophile faggots
>>69785754
>That would be nothing new. Gays have always experienced violence.
not an answer to what I asked
>That's perfectly reasonable. It was never a dispute about science in the first place. Psychiatry is not a science. It's a list of politically approved and disapproved behaviors.
defending bullying, as long as it's the right people doing the bullying to the wrong people
no morals
>But there's no free will in that claim
so you say, I'm not convinced
maybe you should bully me into changing my mind, that's how rational moral people do things
>if you could re-play the tape of history
if
this is not even possible, why would you even suggest it?
>>69786282
>To decry to decline of marriage and hold your nose at gays and lesbians getting married is sort of shooting yourself in the foot.
kike created and pushed feminism is one of the reasons, but so too is kike pushed faggot promotion movements
all of which results in less White children, and fewer White families
>>69786282
Holy shit, someone who's 100% correct.
Well, "Trans" is just one infectious mental illness/perversion that's being normalized by what's called the left. The pedophiles always tried to latch on to gay rights, and they're delighted to see the trannies wedging the tent open for them next.
It's incredibly disgusting, but I've seen essays by trannies saying that they need "trans children" to distract from the fact that being a woman is a sex fetish for them. Of course these kids are mostly little boys and girls who will grow up to be gay and lesbian. "Trans" is gay genocide.
Think about it. If a little child can decide he's "really a girl" and can be sterilized for life, why can't he consent to sex?
I don't know what's after that. Hopefully human extinction.
>>69786469
>>69786538
The gays are going over the tops.
Glad I'm not the sort to put my dick in gay.
>>69786469
> we certainly shouldn't laud people who prefer not to have kids
We should actually.
>defending bullying, as long as it's the right people doing the bullying to the wrong people
What gives the government the right to rule over you?
Oh right, force. Everything comes down to force, in politics.
> this is not even possible, why would you even suggest it?
Most scientific theories are based on "impossible" thought experiments. Einstein's theory came about because he asked what it would look like to ride on a beam of light.
> all of which results in less White children, and fewer White families
Silly tribalism. Nobody cares. Ethnic groups come and go.
>>69779919
Not true, cunt. Civil unions exist. They have the exact same material benefits as marriage.
Gay marriage only exists to piss off Christians.
>>69785754
This line of thinking is called Determinism.
Although I agree in principle with the idea that all things in the Universe proceed in a long chain of cause and effect that is massively complex...the illusion of free will is such that I can in good conscience still hold you liable for something deemed a crime, say murder or arson, because that is what you were determined to do and I was determined to meet out justice.
>>69786823
I couldn't care less about christians and their asshurt over how things are named.
>>69786823
>Civil unions exist. They have the exact same material benefits as marriage.
Unfortunately, not true. They have no international currency. No countries recognize a civil union from another nation.
For immigration purposes it's marriage or nothing.
> the illusion of free will is such that I can in good conscience still hold you liable for something deemed a crime, say murder or arson, because that is what you were determined to do and I was determined to meet out justice.
That would be flawed logic. You can certainly punish people as a deterrent, but what's not rational is to act as though people are morally responsible for their actions. Revenge and moral punishment makes no sense.
>>69786920
So why should I care about Faggots and them being asshurt, by the same reasoning?
>>69787014
So? Immigration is fucking treason anyway. You should lose your nationality if you choose to abandon your country and cease contributing to it.
>>69786538
NAMBLA
I remember the south park episode on them, I was so shocked when I looked them up, and they were fucking real
>>69786817
>We should actually.
genocide is a good thing? glad you've revealed yourself as a monster
>>69786817
>Oh right, force. Everything comes down to force, in politics.
consent
>>69786817
>Most scientific theories are based on "impossible" thought experiments.
no, MOST are not
>Silly tribalism. Nobody cares. Ethnic groups come and go.
no loyalty, perhaps even hatred towards Whites
brainwashed or mentally ill
>>69786868
>This line of thinking is called Determinism
and is it possible to prove or disprove?
>>69787838
>So why should I care about Faggots and them being asshurt, by the same reasoning?
One side is concerned over legitimate legal rights the other is mad over a name.
Nobody is forcing you to care but there is a real difference between the two
>>69786868
No because you'd have to be an outside Observer to verify. You don't have another Universe or set of Universes to use as a control group.
the thing about the "alt-right" is that it isn't a rock-solid political view as much as it is just right wing political movement that's fed up with the established conservatives. I couldnt care less about gays who are otherwise normal people, some on this board would disagree.
>>69787896
>>69788384
Dont know why it (You)'d me when I clicked on your post. But anyways.
>>69788147
They have the same legal rights under civil union. The only reason to make it marriage and let fags marry in church is to piss off christians. Literally no other reason.
And gays dont deserve rights, they deserve a bullet. Not producing children and disrupting society harms the nation, harms our growth and thus our strength. Non-productive elements of the nation have to be removed.
>>69788430
The Alt Right is more a coalition of convenience and opportunity. All the outside groups that just so happen to have similar anti-establishment interests.
>>69768845
>caring about what a bunch of faggots think about you
>>69788604
>They have the same legal rights under civil union.
Except as that other faggot said, they don't when it comes to immigration.
>Non-productive elements of the nation have to be removed.
So fucking kill yourself then.
>>69779564
I'm sorry you have to deal with that. We should be welcoming immigrants who are prepared to integrate and contribute to their new home, but instead, we have politicians whose goal seems to be making sure that we're getting all the worst types. They keep letting in illiterates, asylum tourists and jihadists. And when they're making these people untouchable by refusing any criticism about the whole thing, people are gonna think that all immigrants are like that; an unneeded nuisance for the society and a massive financial burden. Your family will get stereotyped and blamed for the things that this current flood of migrants will do, and we're gonna have to pay more taxes to fund their shit. All the decent citizens will have to suffer because of our horrible politicians enabling those who aim to abuse the system.
>>69788818
I work, I intend to have kids (production units) and I dont go around agitating and distupting effective rule by demanding shit like the faggots do.
As for immigration: its treason. You leave the nation, you ought to forfeit all rights. You have ceased contributing to the common good. Its treason.
>>69788822
worse than that, they're importing them to genocide us, it's happening in ALL White countries
>>69768845
Faggot.
>>69788929
Oh, so you're retarded. Well, just say so immediately next time.
Let me tell you a secret OP:
You don't have a choice. The left might be driving society into degeneracy and ruin but at least they will theoretically let you live in peace, or even give you free shit.
The alt-right (at least the LARPing section of it, which the rest enables much like moderate sandniggers facilitate terrorism) is just going to straight up beat you to death.
I struggled with your dilemma a while ago but it's not really a dilemma when there's only one outcome. No matter how much you want to fit in with a group it's up to them whether or not they accept you, not you, and all the rational argument in the world won't persuade the faggots on the extreme "alt-right" to let you in. And you've gotta ask yourself - are those people _really_ the people you want to associate with anyway? People too dumb or blind or straight-up crazy to even consider the notion of letting gays live in peace no matter what?
The left isn't better, but at least their hate is directed at somebody other than you. These lowest-common-denominator "political activists" have always existed and always will and they're all equally non-functional members of society, from the shrillest SJW to the literal goose-stepping neo-Nazis. You can't change anything about them except where you stand in relation to them.
>b-b-b-b-but what about muh principles
They're not going to magically come to life and save you from a gay bashing, so stop being a cunt, man up, and learn to live in the real world instead of your fantasy world where everyone gets along and you can be whoever you want. You should have learned a long time ago that you can only be what you are. And what you are is a God-damned faggot.
None of this means you have to start posting about mansplaining and straight privilege on tumblr. It's not time for that yet. Just stay neutral until people start throwing bricks and lighting shit on fire, then throw your lot in with whoever will fight for you instead of against you.
t. also a faggot
>>69768845
Jack Donovan and Milo are both fucking gay and nobody seems to have problem with it. You're just being a faggot about it.
>>69789119
>The left isn't better, but at least their hate is directed at somebody other than you.
Unfortunately, the left wants to flood the country with muslims who want to chop my head off.
And turn all the gay kids into trannies.
The right is actually less dangerous to gays than the left at this point.
