So ramzpaul made a new video that's gonna trigger more than a few. He basically tell the white nationalist and the ''1488 crew'' that they ruin the alt-right and that they should go fuck themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnbREcG30Dg
What do you guys think
Well it's true but that doesn't mean they aren't useful.
SJWs are a cult but ya think they aren't useful? Of course not.
lel
>>69761762
I didnt even know you could remove white nationalism from the alt-right and still have something of substance
last bump
>>69761707
Ramzpaul is being pussywhipped by a big tit jewess
Further proof that only weeb wizards are fit to be leaders
Breitbart highlites Ramzpaul as the leader. Now Ramz wants to buddy up with fags.
>>69761707
unironic stormfags have always been a cancer on here
>nation states are a cult
Wut
>>69761707
I still don't get the 1488 meme, something nazi related?
>>69761707
>the white nationalist and the ''1488 crew''
IS the alt right. Without them, the alt right is just splintered, irrelevant cuckservatives with no core identity or motivation.
>>69765494
14 words, 88 something.
Stormweenies have an average IQ of 80
>>69761707
just admit it, you're a white nationalist. yeah, you. quit hiding the truth u fucking pussy
>>69765635
88 because H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. HH = Heil Hitler.
>>69761707
>So ramzpaul made a new video
>>69765419
WELL CYA RAMZ, NICE JOB SAYING FUCK OFF TO YOUR WHOLE "FAN BASE"
The division between the "realpolitik" and the pacifists has always been the bane of far-right politics. I think every fascist movement struggles with having to accept or deny certain groups or ideas that may be leaning to one side or another. Just yesterday I read that Mosley was not an anti-Semite until some newcomers to his party influenced him. Before that other UK fascists were calling him a "kosher-fascist" or something like that.
you can't just put yourself in one of those two camps and throw the other away because this has been a struggle in right-wing politics from the start. The other side will eventually take you down if you stop paying attention to them.
Someone just needs to synthesize the two groups together.
>>69765957
I was just reading about Arnold Leese and the Imperial Fascist League. Those are the ones that got mad at Mosley.
So he started associating with jews, and now he shills for the jews
Why's he bring up israel, what does israel have to do with white nationalism?
Truth is never extreme, nor is it edgy.
>>69761943
Anglin should just fuck off. His insistence in tying WN to his obsessive jew baiting does more harm than good
These cucks are gonna ruin everything, not talking about him.
>>69765957
Ramzpaul had been signalling really hard, though.
I suspect he made friends with some merchants in Breitbart and around, and they have been telling him that he could become a successful politician or personality, but he gotta ditch the National Socialists.
>>69766302
Can't have a WN movement filled with jews tho
They will undermine and destroy it, as they aren't white.
Alt right is a meme stop falling for it
Ok I watched it.
He's not really saying anything extreme, just basically "drop the Nazi stuff if you wanna normalize the movement for wide spread".
Not the first time too, he called them LARPers before and stuff, so that's not really surprising.
I don't like the fact that he feels the need to say he's not a white nationalist just because the group is not to his liking - seems like a pretty cowardly move.
I still like you ramZ. I'm saying because I know you're the OP with a proxy. <3
>>69761707
He's right, though.
>>69766270
Some guy said he's whipped by big wholesome jew tits, we can just assume he's doing it for pussy.
Andrew Anglin needs to take his stupid site and go fuck himself. Ramzpaul is also stupid. He says he's for a White Homeland, that makes him a White Nationalist. But he's probably just pretending about that. His humor is really autistic and weird anyway.
>>69761707
You know your movement is shit when a bunch of autistic neckbeards role playing as nazi officers can ruin it from inside
the alt right without "the ebil nazis" are just cuckservatives who make videos about feminism and say jews and muslims are alright
>>69766754
>>69766729
Not really
Just being another liberal doesn't solve anything
The naziism is the only thing that makes it "altright" in the first place
Anyone who makes a youtube channel based around themselves talking into a camera is invariably a faggot. Stop latching on to the first person that says they like you, /pol/.
>>69761707
>ramzpaul
Who?
>>69761943
Who the fuck does this inbred fucking faggot think he is and why does he get to speak for the alt-right?
>>69764906
Mate, stop being a cuck for people who literally think of you as a subhuman and wouldn't hesitate to lock you in a gas chamber. Have some sense of self-worth.
>>69765419
Exactly. Why couldn't it have been a site like Daily Paul to have found /new/ instead of these stormfaggots? These people are evil, twisted, subhuman parasites.
>>69765604
>>69766875
Fuck off, leftist filth.
>>69765604
>This
Pretty much why I will be voting Clinton. She will enslave the lesser species by destroying their culture from withing. So much so that they will be inept in civility and the normal peoples shall remove them. Learning their "lesson" forever.
>>69761707
He has a point, the 1488ers are mostly divisive and apish.
>>69766902
I disagree though that accepting race/sex/cultural differences and wanting an ethnic national home is the same as fetishizing the 1940s.
Sure, I'm grateful to the 1488ers for starting the movement, but at this point we do need to normalize a bit to start winning elections and such.
And I don't think that white nationalism is exclusively Nazism, and I honestly view Nazism as defeatism.
>>69766902
If you want a movement to be pigeonholed and conflated with someone else's, which will render it ineffective, and ultimately abandoned, then keep identifying with the most historically extreme example you can find. It only benefits those who would be your enemy who seek to demonize all of their opposition.
It's like painting a target on your chest.
>Not goin' with Gage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbVKjknhMjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg2Nfrr9U38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOlJrTKoczc
ahahaha what the fuck did he really say the daily stormer is ADL-funded, literally 3 days after praising weev for trolling shitlibs with a stormer ad
ramzpaul is going fucking nuts
>>69767125
m8 ur literally a jew and the whole problem with the "movement" is trying to include jews/non-whites/cuckservatives
>>69767131
The truth remains the truth. There was really nothing extreme about Hitler/nazi's.
>>69767227
>Comments are disabled for this video.
I'll watch but I just can't trust those people.
>>69767238
He said historically extreme white nationalist movements have been funded by ADL and their collaborators to undermine any white identity movement.
But you all ready knew that, faggot. :^)
>>69767326
>m8 ur literally a jew
m8 u literally don't know me.
>>69761707
Ramz is right.
>>69761762
They do more harm by dissuading others from associating. 1488 is what the GOPe pretends Trump is to dissuade voters.
>>69767238
No, he's saying that at this point, he wouldn't be surprised if it was.
>>69767329
He says he doesn't like how his comment sections tend to be just circlejerks or drama farms. His thing is telling people to actually visit networks outside of Youtube comment sections to better organize and not chat in circles.
So are Stormfags controlled-opposition or what?
lot of israeli flags itt
>>69766440
Problem is he scorns other alt right personalities (ramzpaul, Richard Spencer etc) for thinking his 1488 shit is not the best way to attract bluepilled whites to the alt-right
>>69766440
Jews are whites in denial, tbph.
>>69767437
Idk I'd like the option of at least contacting the person who is preaching ideology, but he's right about the circlejerking.
>>69767458
just one m8
>>69767440
It's happened before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEl7SnH4QI
>>69767341
Thats kinda nonsense
The whole problem is people being ostracized for "extreme"(read: non-mainstream) political views
You don't solve that by moderating & self-censoring these hateful extremists, while pandering to jews/non-whites.
>>69767516
The jewish question is the litmus test of someone being serious vs a paid shill
Jews ARE a problem, and jews do aggressively promote left wing ideologies.
>>69761707
Someone should make a supercut of this video and only use the parts where he talks about killing Jews
>>69767634
This is something even I have come to accept, even if I'm a bit more forgiving doe to my perspective.
>>69767593
>One shitposter happened to be a jew
>this means all WN are jews
he was one of us, rip
I think the problem here is that ramz thinks the only way for the alt right to get popular is for it to neuter itself and become literally republicans++. He's failed to notice that someone left the overton window wide the fuck open and the "mainstream opinion" doesn't even know where it is right now. You've got everything going on from people advocating literal communism to people yelling nigger at Trump rallies, so why should we try to put ourselves in a box that no longer exists? Let's just state what we *actually want* and hope it sticks, rather than compromising with nobody for no reason.
>>69767634
>Jews ARE a problem, and jews do aggressively promote left wing ideologies.
Unless someone knew those kinds of jews they won't beleive you.
I happened to, before I came to pol, so the redpill was easy to swallow.
Gotta take it slow with some people, teaching the retarded is difficult.
>>69767559
This.
They always come back with "well why are we seen as different?" But that no different that "Germans" or "Nordic" or "Mediterranean". Fuckers just want to be special snowflakes.
Alt-right is bullshit. Some libertarian shit mixed with "muh traditionalism". What the fuck, really. That's even worse than neocons.
>>69767860
I still think its a city culture and a nepotism thing not so much something inherently jewish. Just the religion works well for networking.
>>69767860
>Unless someone knew those kinds of jews they won't believe you.
Nah man, I don't know any blacks and I can accept the statistical facts about them.
The most powerful weapon against the Jews is the way they centralized power - a fact anyone can google.
>>69767909
>a fake image and ben shapiro so now you gotta go hardcore naziiioo wahhhh
No. Considering your flag what are you some butt hurt son of the cousin of hitler or something?
>>69767895
It's an american movement, what do you expect? They think it's innovative but it's just the same old bullshit mixed with internet memes.
>>69767227
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg2Nfrr9U38
Just watched this. He's quite good
Hes right, Stormfags are retarded
>>69767634
>You don't solve that by moderating & self-censoring these hateful extremists, while pandering to jews/non-whites.
No, you solve it by the same methods that fabianism and the regressive left have used; progressive indoctrination.
>>69767909
This, sad to say. I still listen to what people like Milo and Ramzpaul have to say, but I just don't listen to the parts I know are bullshit.
Same with Gavin McInnes.
>>69768002
Not an argument.
>>69767909
This, to them we're just another nascent niche market they feel like they got to get into and get on top of.
>>69767909
>ramzpaul
but he's literally named the jew in his videos before
multiple times in fact
ramzpaul predates pretty much anyone else, he's been a staple of /pol/ since before /pol/ got imploded and we had to move to chon(not 8gag, way before this)
>>69767056
>JIDF shill cuckservative
>neocon crypto-marxist
>trying to divide and conquer alt right
>calls other people leftist filth
>mfw
>>69768051
Normalizing edgy behavior online is a big part of that
>>69767593
So, "hey rabbi, whatcha doin'?" isn't just a meme...
>>69768109
I like the contrast with Stefan Molyneaux
He started off Libertarian, then looked at the facts regarding race, and is now a race realist.
>>69767516
He was fine with Ramz until Ramz started attacking him.
>>69767440
Definitely. They don't believe in ambition. They think that having a family is enough to stop the kikes. Not that you shouldn't, but you should be actively seeking a position of power to exert influence from to further their downfall.
Not to mention their odd worship of women, general lack of understanding of how humans work, overemotionality, and other idiotic qualities.
>>69761707
not wanting your race and culture to be eradicated isn't hatred or racial supremacy.
Whites represent 4% of the human population. If we don't advocate for ourselves NOW everything we built is going to disappear.
If we don't advocate for our race now we will disappear forever. Full stop. Whites deserve the same rights as everyone else.
Ashley is so damn qt. I'd totally convert for her.
>>69767440
you're just figuring this out?
>LE NAZIS SAVE THE WITE RACE XD
wait
who were their major allies in WW2?
oh right, fucking mudslim arabs and japanese.
How many non-jewish europeans died in WW2 by the way?
Who do we get compared to if we try to be at all pro-white?
Yeah, hitler really saved us alright.
Fuck boot licking neonazis, fuck the 1488 retards
>>69762286
white nationalism != stormfag neonazis
>>69768461
Literally the same thing in the eyes of everyone else
>>69768338
White people are 17% of the population you fuckwit.
How does ramzpaul makes videos without worrying about repercussions? What does he do for a living?
>>69768503
>t-t-they're not controlled opposition!
>makes any white nationalism movement look like complete shit due to association
>>69766270
seconding this, very suspicious
more subversion attempts to demoralize our survival, sage and move along.
>>69768402
Jew detected
Germany in the 20s was importing niggers by the thousands, because the society was literally controlled by the Jews
It only stopped because of Hitler
>>69768590
because germany in the 2020s is going to be so better off because of hitler, right?
you fucking idiots can't look two feet infront of yourselves and ruin everything repeatedly
>>69768558
white nationalism movements "look like shit" because the marxists & leftists are completely opposed to it
Nothing to do with neo-nazi's or 1488's or whatever
>>69768699
and gee
what part of it makes it look like shit do you think?
>>69768338
>not wanting your race and culture to be eradicated isn't hatred
So you're okay with dindus and kebabs? Real friendly with them? Wouldn't mind them as neighbors?
>or racial supremacy.
So you honestly think any other race would do things just as well as we do?
Don't cuck yourself.
>>69766902
>>69766902
He's right nazis will ruin the alt-right movement.
>>69761707
oh look a jew subverted you again just like milo
when will you guys realize they're all the same
>>69768678
>Hitler lost, that means he's anti-white!
lol if you non-ironically believe that the reason white people can be guilted is Nazism
without WW2, they would have used slavery in the USA and imperialism in Europe
before WW2, Germany was already receiving thousands of niggers from Africa, in a society that was controlled from top to bottom by Jews
>>69767909
It's been pretty obvious they're trying to give the alt right movement the old Sneaky Tea Party for awhile.
>>69768699
why give easy ammunition to your opponents? It's suicidal.
>>69768848
Why pretend your enemies will love or tolerate you if only you tried to be more "mainstream"?
>>69768590
Long nosed Arab detected
>>69768820
ah yes, that's why Nazi germany allied itself with non-whites
because they were so pro-white
hold on lets go ask hitler what he thought about whites in europe
>The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France
Hitler
Woops!
:^)
>>69768739
>don't do what the enemy doesn't like you doing
Cuck.
>>69768941
>posting images literally made by a jew pretending to be a stormfag to make us look bad
ugh! you got me!
>>69767634
Using Jews as a litmus test is fucking retarded. That should be the final "a-ha!" moment. If you start out with it you just turn people off.
>>69768789
Why do you care? Why are you going against your fellow man?
Oh right, you're another mentally ill liberal.
>>69761707
>White nationalism is bad
>Don't you know whites are the only people not allowed to have a country of their own?
>its the year 2020+8-12.
>A fucking Leaf.
Good. Stormfag SA LARPers are the fucking worst.
The Far-Right seriously needs to rebrand itself.
Anglin, weev, etc. should an hero.
>>69768923
You don't. There's an entire spectrum of subtlety between desired outcome and sieg heiling a swastika.
The direct approach is rarely the most fruitful.
>>69769031
because they're either actual retards or controlled opposition
nobody except those two parties could possibly believe what stormfront does is in any way good PR for anything, ever
>>69768149
>Delusional fucking retard making moronic assumptions about people for calling them out for what they are
>Someone disagrees with me! They must be a neocon crypto-marxist [insert buzzword] shill!11
Fuck off. I'm not any of those things, sorry. You're going to have to deal with the fact that there exists genuine, principled opposition from the right to your worldview and it doesn't fit your delusional checkbox list.
>>69768931
>Italy, Hungary, Finland, Croatia, half of France are non-white :^)
He's already been outed as controlled opposition
>>69768123
>chon
Feels like forever ago. Also, Fringe Elements was on race realism and naming the Jew around the same time.
>>69768931
>The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France
Nice source. If you think Hitler said that, you're retarded. But I guess you also believe he was a muslim, atheist, jewish, incestuous paedophile who gassed 6 million jews and started WW2.
Poor attempt at divide and conquer JIDF. There is nothing wrong with allying with anyone.
>>69769118
because they're controlled opposition
why do you think they immediately resort to buzzwords? Does it remind you of someone? perhaps, I don't know
the far left calling everyone and everything 'RACIST XENOPHOBIC SEXIST BIGOT!'?
>>69769118
nope
they are all Jews, and it's not a coincidence
white nationalism doesnt interest me
i am an Englishman who happens to be white not a white guy who happens to be English
>>69769171
please go back to 8gag where you can silence all the opposition and enjoy your stormfag echochamber
>>69769149
Ramzpaul? No.
>>69761707
THIS THREAD IS OVERFLOWING WITH YIDDISH KIKES!!!
14/88 HEIL HITLER!! FUCK RAMZPAUL AND ALL THE OTHER KEKSERVATIVE SCUM THAT DENOUNCE WHITE NATIONALISM!!!
SIEG HEIL!!!
>>69768941
nice meme Anglin
Now don't you have some asian sex tourism to do
>>69769071
Nah weev is cool
>>69769184
What's your problem with white nationalism? What actual idea do you disagree with? Other than "omg stormfags xDDDDD le dumb skinhead!!"
Do you think blacks are equally intelligent to whites?
Do you think whites don't have a right to live in a white country?
>>69769118
Nice try.
>>69769171
nazism and islamism go hand in hand so idk what point you are trying to make
while we are on the subject yes he did start ww2 and yes he did kill roughly 6m jews along with millions of white slavs
>>69769241
ramzpaul is literally a jew
>>69761707
ramzpaul is an old beta fag
who cares what he thinks
>>69769267
The problem I have is with retarded deluded stormfags that think 'omg hitler was the savior of da white race!' when he did more damage to the 'white race' than pretty much any single human in the history of mankind.
Fuck you if you're actually being serious, stormfags are absolutely retarded and really are a cult.
>>69769071
>The Far-Right seriously needs to rebrand itself.
Into what?
A 'tolerant' group of people who want their nations and race destroyed by niggers, Muslims, and Jews?
You want us to suck kike cock like everyone else?
GTFO of /pol/ you traitorous, disgusting shill.
I fucking hate you invaders.
>>69769186
Ben Shapiro was never altright. Sargon was always a known cuck. Ramzpaul is being mischaracterized, and Milo was only ever good for bashing feminism.
But please, carry on about another fucking Jewish Conspiracy, stormfag.
>>69768123
Cults have no space for nuance or dissent.
Every time you think there's finally a good Jew, they backstab you:
Ben Shapiro, Milo, etc.
>>69769307
when did he say he was a jew?
>>69761707
Libertarians and Milo fucks are trying to co opt the term alt right
It's sad but won't last because they're bitches
>>69769184
this thread is filled with it. scary how they come out in force.
>>69769307
Is he actually Jewish?
>>69768941
>>69769270
>>69769370
Yes, it's almost as if adult people have different opinions. Must be a jew conspiracy!
>>69768590
>Germany in the 20s was importing niggers by the thousands
source pls
>>69769339
You didn't answer my question. Liking Hitler or not is absolutely irrelevant for the future. It's fucking history.
Do you think blacks are equally intelligent to whites?
Do you think whites don't have a right to live in a white country?
>>69769350
Are you saying there's no major Jewish involvement in driving mass immigration and other leftist causes?
Are you saying there isn't a Jew 90% of the time behind the intellectual promotion of racemixing, mass immigration, multiculturalism, etc.?
>>69769224
Why would I want to be in an echochamber. Someone has to be here to call divide and conquerors like you out on your bullshit. The ones who do the jews' footwork by neutering their opposition. I'm not a stormfag btw. I'm a privately educated christian socialist with a 125 IQ. And I'm damned if I'm gonna let the alt right be made a safespace for jews by cucks like you. 1488 IS the alt right.
>>69769472
Mein Kampf
>>69769447
You can't claim to be factually based and then ignore race is an issue.
These Jewish alt-righters are no different from Tumblr when it comes to race.
>>69769488
>durrhhh if ur pro white then ur a nazi!
this is why nobody likes stormfags, they're not the same thing you idiot
Alt Right is cancer. The anyone can join attitude fucked over several movements already and the last thing we need is non whites or degenerates have a say in how to shape white countries
Ramzpaul like most men is simply a sucker for a nice smile
>>69769443
Where do you think you are JIDF?
He's right you know, the greatest disservice to WN is other WN. They usually dress like shit, are fat and say the most retarded thing. Just compare them to the Nazi's who were Alpha, dressed well, in shape and could intelligently counter the arguments of others with a good education.
If you want to build a movement, you need moderates on your side. The Red Pill isn't a suppository, it's something you have to goad someone into taking over time. You're not going to win over people, especially moderates by saying Kill All Jews, Race War Now. You have to slowly, but surely start showing people the Jewish problem and how only 2% of the population is in charge of our money, our media and our politicians and are out to genocide White people. This isn't something that happens in an hour.
You want Whites to stand up for themselves? Lie, call yourself something else, get rid of extremist because more than likely, they're plants sent in by Jews. Dress well, speak well and try to lure in as many moderates as possible.
>>69769429
>>69769371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXTKxjDuao
(probably is a joke)
>>69769574
You keep avoiding my questions.
Do you think blacks are equally intelligent to whites?
Do you think whites don't have a right to live in a white country?
Why do you have such trouble with answering that? Why are you so obsessed with some trivial historical fact (the assessment of whether Hitler was a good or bad thing)?
>>69769544
>hates jews
>follows a religion created by the king of the Jews, based on the teachings found in the Old Testament aka the Big Book of Famous Jews
>>69769340
Notice how there are two main types of people that identify as Communists nowadays. Old holdouts, and young College morons that even SJWs differentiate themselves from.
Our "old holdouts" are dead. Our young college morons are Stormfag LARPers.
Are there still Communists/Marxists and those who sympathize with them? Absolutely. But they've now hijacked the labels of "Progressive" "Democratic Socialist," etc. They don't spend their days defending Stalin, Trotsky etc. as if that were the most important issue, they don't fly the Sickle & Star, etc.
Argue the same points, that's fine with me. Hell, I'm huge on Codreanu and Mussolini. Do I go around using fascist symbols and name dropping them? Absolutely not.
Just pick a new label and distance yourself from the Nazis. Keep the policies and ideology, sugarcoat the rhetoric a bit, and let normies figure the Jew thing out on their own. Once you start pointing out double standards, and the decline of the West, it's pretty fucking easy to connect the dots.
>>69761707
So reddit wants to join the alt right now?
>>69769610
nope, according to '''white nationalists''' in this thread you're supposed to run around yelling "SEIG HEIL! KILL THE JEWS! ALSO MURDER ALL THE FRENCH POLISH ETC BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WHITE LOL" and then every white person will magically join you
>>69769488
>Liking Hitler or not is absolutely irrelevant for the future. It's fucking history.
Not him but let me just say that the day the one sided telling of history ends people will look to hitler again because hitler revived a broken nation. People who brought order will always be looked up upon
>>69769610
>don't be white nationalist goyim
>that's what the jews want
>>69765419
What if we convert to Judaism and create a closed-off White Jewish world? Would it be so bad?
>>alt-right is a fascist / national socialist movement
>Paid opposition! Shill!
>>alt-right is not a fascist / national socialist movement
>Paid opposition! Shill!
Which is it, fags?
>>69769488
I readily admit that there is Jewish involvement.
However, you're suggesting that the alt-right is being subverted by Jews. That's true, but it's the (((Pure Aryan Warriors))) not Ramzpaul of all people.
>>69769652
You have to go back to the guardian.
>>69769610
>They usually dress like shit, are fat and say the most retarded thing.
Usually? Or are they just cherrypicked to make them look bad?
Sure, there are fatasses among white nationalists, but are they the majority? Anyone can post cherrypicked pictures.
>>69761707
Nazism was a political cult. It continues to be one, it just became fringe due to its spectacular failiure. What else is new?
>>69769755
It's neither
The heart of alt right thought is simply anti enlightenment
Nazis and such are welcome because they at least get it better than say the libertarians
>>69769680
>le straw man
Read the sticky reddit.
>>69769663
This. Anyone decrying this as a divide & conquer strategy is either a moron or themselves trying to sow dissent.
>>69769755
>alt-right is a movement primarily focusing on preserving western culture with a secondary emphasis on libertarian social views and conservative economic policies
how about that one?
But here's the real thing the stormfag LARPers have with the alt-right:
they can't control it anymore.
That's why they're lashing out like autistic toddlers, they hate when they lose control of anything. It's also why they worship a guy who created a police state.
>>69769548
>Mein Kampf
fuck off pls. not even Hitler thought it is a good and accurate book.
>>69769863
funny, someone who didn't even know who ramzpaul was calling me 'reddit'
just fuck off already
>>69766729
The problem is that any movement towards nationalism, patriotism or cultural pride is called "nazi stuff" by you fucking kikes.
>>69761707
He's right.
They are a living breathing cherry pickable example of right wing idiocy.
They do more damage to the perception of nationalism than else.
>Look guys I think we need to talk about unfetted immigr- HEIL HITLER FUCK THE BLACKS FOURTEEN EIGHTY EIGHT MOTHERFUCKER LETS GET PISS AND SMASH SOME CUNTS
That's what happens.
>>69769663
>getting normies involved
And so it dies
Shame
>>69769889
>libertarian social views
just go vote democrat like a good retard
>>69769947
>flag
This is how it works.
>>69769812
You know tolerance and diversity have arrived once you see a chick with blue hair.
>>69769885
>WNs aren't allowed to be part of alt right anymore
>IT'S NOT DIVIDE AND CONQUER THOUGH
>>69769889
>But here's the real thing the stormfag LARPers have with the alt-right:
>they can't control it anymore.
Where the fuck is the "alt right" even popular?
No one outside of fringe corners of the net has ever even heard about it and lacking a clear structure no one even gets what its goals are
>>69769947
this
they don't get it, the only response you'll get is:
>LOL UR A JOOOOOOOOOO!
>LOOK AT MY JOOOO PICTURE SHOWING HOW WRONG YOU ARE!
>>69769934
I know m8, but you just gonna have to not be a little bitch and learn how to call kikes on their bullshit.
And at any rate, I see it becoming more legitimate as the left fucks the west right in the ass
>>69769930
>>69769889
>libertarian social views
Kek. Alt right is full social conservative.
Fuck off, you libercucks won't ruin it all this time
>>69767131
It's not the nationalists that are pigeon holing and conflating. That is the Jews doing that to try and delegitimize the movement
>>69761707
He's just jumping on the Milo bandwagon.
I'm ultra-racist but nazi seriously, i'm tired of these germanboo and this admiration for hitler who is a subhuman
>>69769889
Stefan is a race realist and touches the subject more often than these kikes ever will, which is never
>>69769909
They were so numerous they were easily visible in the streets of Germany
>>69770071
>>69769970
this is why you aren't welcome you retarded stormfags
piss be upon your nigger footlicking pope
>>69769184
Exactly! I think you're on to something. White supremacist groups have a long history of being controlled opposition. They are statists, they believe in identity politics, they believe in their own version of social justice for whites; they are collectivists, they're globalists; support for the Third Reich, and they' want to instigate a race war just like George Soros.
>>69769186 >>69769350
This pretty much sums up my thoughts on that absurd macro image. Shapiro was never involved with the alt-right. As far as I'm aware, Sargon isn't Jewish and he's a lefty. Milo was just reporting on the movement.
He's right
>>69765809
88 precepts.
>>69770009
Of course they're allowed. Just moderate your public appearance.
*** don't show your power level ***
>>69769663
I actually agree, to a certain degree, with what you are saying.
Worshiping the Nazis is like worshiping a dead kike on a stick: it's ridiculous.
However, the enemies of any real WN will invariably correlate our goals and worldview with the Nazis; and they will be pretty accurate about that.
So these kids that want to play SS and post pictures of the Third Reich (and they used to annoy me as well) will, I think, eventually grow out of that edgy phase of admiring the trappings and material manifestation of the Nazis.
But they are on the right path. You can't disown them because they worship a failure, or the symbols of an extinct political movement.
Sure, we need new symbols, and they are appearing. Gen Identity, NordFront, etc are on the right path.
But the second that I hear some asshole tell me that I shouldn't be open about my desire to genocide every filthy fucking kike on the planet so as to not upset anybody, I'm going to tell that fucking faggot to die in a fire.
Because we are going to have to kill every single kike before we will ever be free to unlock our true potential as a race, as a Western cultural matrix.
>>69761707
The nazi party was, for example, a closet gay cult:
>The truth about homosexuality and the Nazi Party
>The Interfaith Alliance, a far-left religious advocacy group in Idaho, has accused Scott Lively, a scheduled speaker at this weekend's "Shake the Nation" conference in Boise, of "bearing false witness" and of being "mean-spirited and hurtful."
>Ludwig Lenz worked at the Sex Research Institute in Berlin, which was destroyed by Hitler's Brown Shirts in 1933 likely because its records, including 40,000 confessions from members of the Nazi Party, would have exposed the sexual perversions of Nazi leadership. Lenz said that "not ten percent of the men who, in 1933, took the fate of Germany into their hands, were sexually normal."
>In fact, the Nazi Party began in a gay bar in Munich, and Ernst Roehm, Hitler's right hand in the early days of Nazism, was well-known for his taste in young boys. William Shirer says in his definitive "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," not only that Roehm was "important in the rise of Hitler," but also "like so many of the early Nazis, (he was) a homosexual."
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/080515
>>69769663
>Just pick a new label and distance yourself from the Nazis.
Personally I'd point to the Amish. It hits all the main points and works fine on a superficial level which is really all you need.
>>69769975
What did I say that was wrong?
Every time anyone wants to have a debate or conversation about anything quite right wing or nationalist all the media, politicians, or normal people on social media need to do is point at those retards and then attack their 'arguments' instead of the more nuanced and neutral moderate ones that everyone else puts forward.
They poison the fucking well just by existing.
>>69770111
Are blacks and whites equally intelligent?
Is it wrong for white people to want their countries to remain white?
Answer that, you don't want to answer, because your positions on those issues are literally the same as the positions of a communist, a socialist, a liberal and a SJW.
>>69769224
>You just want an echochamber!
>pls go away
>>69770111
>Sargon isn't Jewish and he's a lefty
Hes part nigger somewhere down the line and is now starting to embrace the "i am 10% shitskin so i count as minority" card to shit on whites
>>69770103
>been speaking against anglin and nazi larpers the whole thread
>now i'm a stormfag for opposing your libercuckery
fuck off paultard
>>69769755
>>alt-right is a fascist / national socialist movement and therefore wrong
>Paid opposition! Shill!
>>alt-right is not a fascist / national socialist movement
>Paid opposition! Shill!
FTFY
riddle me this, stormfags:
if nazis were 'da savior of da wite race', then why did they methodically kill so many non-german whites?
oh right, you got to pick and choose who you considered white
how many of you really think you'd be considered white by the nazis?
before any american replies, Hitler said he considered american whites to be 'mutts'
This guy summed it up the best:
"Ramz, you're backlashing against white nationalism, but think about this: how in any way will it be possible for whites and Europeans to fight for the retention and preservation of their land, culture, ethnicity, and heritage, without coming off as a "cult", or assholes, dicks, racist, elitists, supremacists, etc.
My point is, it is an inevitability that whites and Europeans will be viewed negatively for fighting this struggle that they must fight in order to maintain sovereignty. There is no warm, fuzzy, polite, politically correct way to do it. The establishment has labeled actions and ideologies conducive to the proliferation of white/European culture as all kinds of buzzwords that have artificially negative connotations. Why are you supporting the corrupt, sellout establishment's stigmatization of our struggle?
This fundamental dilemma is the elephant in the room you should be addressing."
>>69770071
I'm a social conservative, what I'm not is a social authoritarian.
>>69769889
You're spot on with the stormfags, but the alt-right can't be boiled down to "Libertarian social views and Conservative economic policies."
There are plenty of economic centrists in the alt-right, social conservatives etc. That's not to discount the west-loving libertarians, but let's not pretend they're the only ones in the coalition.
>>69770265
Why do you keep talking about something that happened 80 years ago and refuse to answer these questions regarding the future:
Are blacks and whites equally intelligent?
Is it wrong for white people to want their countries to remain white?
You are red herring. You don't want to talk about the issues. You want to talk about how ugly skinheads are, and how Hitler lost the war.
>>69770323
>Are blacks and whites equally intelligent?
no
>Is it wrong for white people to want their countries to remain white?
no
if you don't understand the difference between being a stormfag and being pro-white, you're the problem.
>>69770265
Did you forget that the USSR was a thing and their mobilised military existed on the doorstep of nazi Germany.
>>69770208
No he's right. Fuck you and your flag you shitposting cocksucker
Homosexuality, Pederasty, & Occultism’s Combined Influence On the Third Reich
http://www.scribd.com/doc/37050776/Homosexuality-Pederasty-Occultism-s-Combined-Influence-On-the-Third-Reich#scribd
>>69767516
I'M AUTISTIC AND PROUD
>>69767227
Can't cage the Gage. A non-white who is doing it right. Watch his newer stuff. He stresses the importance of taking action rather than trying to "wake" people.
Basically his message is get off the net, and go back into the matrix(real world). Build yourself up and run for local government positions.
Make your campaign messages be "let's keep our communities safe" rather than "keep out the nigs" (same idea though).
Jews can't micromanage, so start small!
>>69770359
You are the one claiming every pro-white person is therefore a stormfag.
Even with their home countries set against them, their women brainwashed against them and their culture being shit on white men are trying to find a "middle ground" to discuss things out?
How sick in the head are we?
>>69770265
When did they do that?
White nationalism
>wanting country for white people
This is literally all it is.
It's not complex or hateful at all.
If I'm trying to keep pandas from going extinct, you give them a habitat and help them reproduce.
That's what white nationalism if for white people.
>>69770265
>if nazis were 'da savior of da wite race', then why did they methodically kill so many non-german whites?
Because the 'Nazis' were actually masterminded by the Weimar kikes to create the state of Israel and genocide as many Aryans as possible.
Hitler was a Rothschild kike, an enemy spy who infiltrated an anti semitic movement and took it over.
He sent all the filthy Ashkenazis over to Israel and singlehandedly did more damage to the white race than anyone ever before in history.
This is why we need to
GAS THE KIKES
RACE WAR NOW
>>69770011
The alt-right has effectively shaped the political environment of the 2016 election. The name itself might not be popular but the ideology is taking hold fast.
Read pic related and you will understand this thread.
>>69769889
You're reading it backwards.
The only people lashing out are the social faggots keeping face and trying to stay away from being called racist, and if anything they are the ones trying to take control of the masses
>>69770226
>No, they're not. I'm a race realist.
>No, but it doesn't mean you get to oppress them and treat them like second class citizens.
>Nice baseless assumptions there, friend.
>>69770480
>>69770278
So you would allow, say, pornography and other kinds of social decay in our so longed whitetopia?
what's the difference between that and the liberal democracy so reviled by WNs?
Masculine Vs Effeminate Homosexuals
Whereas effeminate homosexists "normally" don't seek out & bugger young boys, militant gay pederasts do.
>For political & sociological identification, there's an important distinction which must be made between effeminate homosexist males, who are obvious & popularized by mainstream media & in Hollywood films, & masculine "ubermenchen" militant gay pederasts like the Nazi Brown Shirts who target & bugger young boys & have sexual "relations" with their comrades.
>Due to conventional notions about homosexuality & stereo-typing, the militant gay pederast who preys upon young boys often flies beneath the radar & escapes detection, largely because he can posture as, & is thus perceived to be a "heterosexual."
>Indeed, militant gay homosexists have little regard for effeminate homosexuals or those who are disdainfully referred to as heterosexual "breeders."
>As shown in the film "THE DAMNED," starring Dirk Bogart, a depiction of the June 30th, July 1st, 1934 Night of The Long Knives, in which the SA leadership was eliminated in a consolidation of Hitler's reach for absolute power, the Nazi movement was advanced & controlled by militant gay pederasts.
>Indeed, a few days after the murder of Austrian Chancellor Englebert Dollfus, in Vienna July 25, 1934, the semi-official Italian newspaper, Il Popolo di Roma, published the comment, "Pederasts and assassins rule in Berlin." [Quoted from The Pink Swastika]
http://www.henrymakow.com/the_riddle_of_the_gayhomosexis.html
>>69770553
>pornography and other kinds of social decay
this is why nobody takes you guys seriously
>>69770515
>it doesn't mean you get to oppress them and treat them like second class citizens
Is deporting them oppression?
Why do they get to be citizens? You know citizenship was originally devised to be inherited by blood, not by being born in a piece of land?
>>69770538
>>69770425
>Even with their home countries set against them, their women brainwashed against them and their culture being shit on white men are trying to find a "middle ground" to discuss things out?
>How sick in the head are we?
Exactly.
We need to start killing our political enemies, ASAP
Traitors go first
>>69770476
>The alt-right has effectively shaped the political environment of the 2016 election
I hear that all the time but no one can ever back it up with legit examples where the "alt right" did anything.
I might as well say that /pol/ shaped the environment because we are pushing truths in all different kind of corners of the net but even then i would have no hard evidence
>>69770590
Who's "you guys"? Why do you keep strawmanning so hard? Are you now claiming every white nationalist wants to ban porn because one BRAZILIAN guy asked that?
>This essential distinction has been intentionally censored & blurred to facilitate a rise of militant gays to power on the deception of what appears to be the stereo-typical "harmlessness & "helplessness" of effeminate homosexuals.
>On the other hand, morally vigilant heterosexual males who object to the abuses of the gay agenda have been surreptitiously maligned as "homophobes," this when most of the violence which occurs in the homosexualist culture, is perpetrated by militant gays against effeminate homosexuals.
>Essentially, militant gays ride into power clinging to the backsides of effeminate homosexuals.
>The main difference in the target for the sexual affectations of militant gays vs effeminate homosexuals is, whereas militant gays will prey upon young boys for sodomy, effeminate homosexuals will usually target older teenagers, or most preferably they will strive to seduce virulent married, masculine heterosexual males, with an emphasis on masculinity.
>A similar sexual dialectic prevails among lesbians, in which one assumes a dominant male or masculine role, & the other a more submissive or passive feminine role.
>There is a poverty of knowledge among the people about the dynamics & nuances of the homosexualist culture, thus leading to many misconceptions, & often unwittingly an undermining of both the political & cultural terrain.
http://www.henrymakow.com/the_riddle_of_the_gayhomosexis.html
>>69770612
>>69770646
Donald Trump shilled Coulters book a few times
>>69770375
You don't get it do you.
Your approach hasn't worked. Nationalism being led by a bunch of shaved headed apes who idolize hitler hasn't fucking worked, for fucking obvious reasons. Your continued belligerently loud existence and propensity to stick your fucking noses in every where is continuing to kill nationalism from spreading. People don't want to be associated with you. They don't want to be represented by you. And they sure as hell don't want to be accused of being you.
You.
Have.
Failed.
And we're nearer the precipice of cultural suicide than ever before, thanks for that by the way. Let people who are willing to temper their emotions, appearances, and stances do the talking and leading in the name of nationalism. Because perpetually childlike people like you have done your darnedest to drive any sane person away from even considering nationalism as a good thing, let alone from wanting to identify with and support it.
Ramz is so based. He is the god of Bantz, and makes a terrific figure head for the alt-right.
>>69770071
This. It took me a very long time to realize why I hated libertarians, and I finally figured it out- They are just a bunch of degenerate hedonists with no boundaries, that do not care what's best for a society, but what's best for themselves. They are kinda like an edgier version of a progressive.
>>69769985
>Generation Identity
They're a perfect example of rebranding of the right and distancing it from 1488ers
>>69770208
you'll only find shitposters here, friend
>>69770734
>Nationalism being led by a bunch of shaved headed apes who idolize hitler hasn't fucking worked
Why do you keep claiming that the white nationalist crowd looks like that despite evidence to the contrary?
Why do you keep buying into the perception generated by the mainstream media?
The Homosexual Roots of the Nazi Party
>The "gay rights" movement often portrays itself as an American phenomenon which arose from the civil rights movement of the 1950s. It is not uncommon to hear homosexualists (those both "gay" and "straight" who promote the legitimization of homosexuality) characterize "gay rights" as the natural third wave of civil rights activism (following blacks and women). In reality, however, Germany was the birthplace of "gay rights," and its legacy in that nation is truly alarming.
>The "grandfather of gay rights" was a homosexual German lawyer named Karl Heinrich Ulrichs. Ulrichs had been molested at age 14 by his male riding instructor. Instead of attributing his adult homosexuality to the molestation, however, Ulrich devised in the 1860s what became known as the "third sex" theory of homosexuality. Ulrichs' model holds that male homosexuals are actually female souls trapped within male bodies. The reverse phenomenon supposedly explains lesbianism. Since homosexuality was an innate condition, reasoned Ulrichs, homosexual behavior should be decriminalized. An early follower of Ulrichs coined the term "homosexual" in an open letter to the Prussian Minister of Justice in 1869.
>By the time Ulrichs died in 1895, the "gay rights" movement in Germany had gained considerable strength. Frederich Engels noted this in a letter to Karl Marx regarding Ulrich's efforts:
>"The pederasts start counting their numbers and discover they are a powerful group in our state. The only thing missing is an organization, but it seems to exist already, but it is hidden."
http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=PinkSwastika
>>69770673
>they have no feeling toward Israel
EVERYBODY HATES YOU
Some of those that hate you want to use you to get money.
So you send them pictures of your daughter.
Why was it people hated you again, Israel?
>>69770103
Im an economic libertarian and social conservative, not in any way a nazi.
What now, you fat yankee? I bet you're either an atheist or a filthy papist.
>>69770679
Ann was a thing long before the AR and is simply using it to shill her shit. Lets be real here
>>69766302
There's a lot of reason to hate Anglin, his persistence when it comes to pointing out Jews isn't one of them.
I think him being a fucking racemixer with yellow fever and approving of PUA shit are more harmful to white nationalism. And him being a fucking manlet that never learns.
>>69770734
this tbqh
stormfags do more damage to nationalist movements than pretty much any other entity
>>69770323
>>69770359
>>69770424
>>69770515
>Divide et impera: Break them into groups, break them to the tiniest groups you can.
>Lead your enemy: Then, after you have a bit of a rep, slowly change your views, inject your real agenda.
>>69770553
You have to change the culture and it starts at the grassroots level. You have to promote a culture of traditional family values and use social pressure to dissuade people from degeneracy.
>After Ulrichs' death, the movement split into two separate and opposed factions. One faction followed Ulrichs' successor, Magnus Hirschfeld, who formed the Scientific Humanitarian Committee in 1897 and later opened the Institute for Sex Research in Berlin. The other faction was organized by Adolf Brand, publisher of the first homosexual magazine, Der Eigene (The Special). Brand, Benedict Friedlander and Wilhelm Janzen formed the Gemeinschaft der Eigenen (The Community of the Special) in 1902. What divided these groups was their concepts of masculinity. Ulrichs' theory embraced a feminine identity. His, and later Hirschfeld's, followers literally believed they were women trapped in men's bodies.
>The followers of Brand, however, were deeply insulted by Ulrichs' theory. They perceived themselves not merely as masculine, but as a breed of men superior in masculine qualities even to heterosexuals. The Community of the Special (CS) asserted that male homosexuality was the foundation of all nation-states and that male homosexuals represented an elite strata of human society. The CS fashioned itself as a modern incarnation of the warrior cults of ancient Greece. Modeling themselves after the military heroes of Sparta, Thebes and Crete, the members of the CS were ultra-masculine, male-supremacist and pederastic (devoted to man/boy sex). Brand said in Der Eigene that he wanted men who "thirst for a revival of Greek times and Hellenic standards of beauty after centuries of Christian barbarism."
>One of the keys to understanding both the rise of Nazism is found in this early history of the German "gay rights" movement. For it was the Community of the Special which created and shaped what would become the Nazi persona, and it was the loathing which these "Butches" held for effeminate homosexuals ("Femmes") which led to the internment of some of the latter in slave labor camps in the Third Reich.
http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=PinkSwastika#Roots
>>69770897
>if I repeat it, then it becomes real!
we're not dividing shit, we're telling you to fuck off
there's the door, now go.
>>69761707
Because you stormniggers cant drop nazi memes, nationalist ideologies have a significantly harder time gaining traction.
Form your own nation's identity. Don't piggy back off of the Germans. History will become more fair to nazi germany in the future. These things take time.
>>69761707
ramzpaul is a latte sipping nu-male who should promptly jump off a bridge
>>69770897
I get wary of a "pro-white" person when all they want to talk about is how ugly skinheads are and how Hitler was so terrible
>>69770795
Why do label GI as WN?
>>69770860
The stormfags ARE the "movement"
The fact a buncha queers, jews, or other sorts who live off their youtube revenue disagree is meaningless
>>69769889
>libertarian social views
There's a really large fascist sect running a couple podcasts. They've actively called out freedom of speech as harmful (dumb kids will too easily fall for communism if they're exposed to it--i.e. laws should restrict discussion of communism), and drug legalization (encourages degeneracy and laziness, non-whites are too stupid to handle it).
Alt-right seems to just be "anyone on the right who's currently frustrated with the GOP."
From Boy Scouts to Brownshirts
>The "Butch" homosexuals of the CS transformed Germany. Their primary vehicle was the German youth movement, known as the Wandervogel (Rovers or Wandering Youth). "In Central Europe," writes homosexual historian Parker Rossman, "there was another effort to revive the Greek ideal of pedagogic pederasty in the movement of 'Wandering Youth'... Ultimately, Hitler used and transformed the movement...expanding and building upon its romanticism as a basis for the Nazi Party" (Rossman:103).
>Rising spontaneously in the 1890s as an informal hiking and camping society, the Wandervogel became an official organization at the turn of the century, similar to the Boy Scouts. From early on, however, the Wandervogel was dominated and controlled by the pederasts of the CS. CS co-founder Wilhelm Janzen was its chief benefactor, and its leadership was rife with homosexuality. In 1912, CS theorist Hans Blueher wrote The German Wandervogel Movement as an Erotic Phenomenon which told how the organization was used to recruit young boys into homosexuality.
>Wandervogel youths were indoctrinated with Greek paganism and taught to reject the Christian values of their parents (mostly Catholics and Lutherans). The CS belief in a homosexual elite took shape within the Wandervogel in the concept of "der Fuehrer" (The Leader). E.Y. Hartshorne, in German Youth and the Nazi Dream of Victory, records the recollections of a former Wandervogel member in this regard:
>"We little suspected then what power we had in our hands. We played with the fire that had set a world in flames, and it made our hearts hot... It was in our ranks that the word Fuehrer originated, with its meaning of blind obedience and devotion... And I shall never forget how in those early days we pronounced the word Gemeinschaft ["community"] with a trembling throaty note of excitement, as though it hid a deep secret" (Hartshorne:12)
http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=PinkSwastika#Brown
>>69767909
Race realism and following anti-egalitarian implications is literally the core of the alt-right.
