Huh..Kinda makes you think, doesn't it?
>>69761007
How can they be called civilizations if they were never civilized?
>>69761095
/thread
WE
WUZ
>>69761007
>Ghana
>Horn of Africa
>>69761164
KANGZ
>>69761095
>>69761130
>>69761164
>>69761183
>Can't argue against it
>Results to insults and memes
Wow...So who's the real monsters here?
>>69761209
AND
>>69761007
Romans were larger than all of those.
>Who knows how many civilizations there were 3.2 million years ago until 1600 AD
>>69761007
About what? The Sumerians moving west?
>>69761095
i'd consider any stable group to be civilized. monkeys own a date tree? that's a simple form of civilization. it's relative to that tier of advancement, so you really can't contrast babylon with rome, and call the former uncivilized. and so on, to the beginnings
>>69761007
Nigger chart has problems, one being homo sapiens now officially started 160,000 years ago, not 3,200,000 years ago, splain that one lucy...
RATHER DO NOT NIG NOGGIN NEGATORIE NUT FUCKER
>>69761007
>Egypt
>>69761007
And there's no evidence that any of those "civilizations" ever devised a calendar or complex mathematics (algebra, geometry, or full arithmetic), built a multi-story structure, exploited underground natural resources, sawed any wood, carved any stone, invented a sail, or produced anything that could be called a mechanical device of any kind. Indeed, there is no evidence that any black society anywhere had ever invented the wheel.
>>69761534
>considers monkeys civilized
>>69761007
Humanity is much younger than 3.2 million years old you dumb uneducated youtube-documentary watching kike
>>69761534
i consider your pock marked anus an often penetrated target, so you can't really count your screaming an uncivilized living hell filled with personal defeat and inner strife, until it kills you, and then of course, you failed to own your own ass, thus indicating an unstable rectal tear...
SO GLAD WE AGREE YOU GOD DAMNED NINCOMPOOP
>>69761007
>Egypt
>black
every time
>>69761007
SHEEEEIT
>>69761007
>US flag
I too love looking at 21st century drawings of nigger wonderland
>>69761695
do you expect to find a carbonized wood wheel from 2.5 million years ago? we barely have a single vertebrae or finger bone from some entire species of ancestor as the only proof that they existed at all. african's on the west coast fashioned fish bones into hooks for fishing and so on, arrow heads, beads, art. many tools were made from wood, easy to work easy to find. hard to preserve.
>"absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"
>>69761007
>Lucy
>lady
Ignoring the Nubians, africa has had some empires. But as is somewhat of a staple of africans, the record keeping is shit. For they only care about the present and the immediate future.
Dogon and Zulu are still bretty cool. I'd like to see them modernize and form nations.
>>69761184
stupid niggers don't even know the geography of Africa
>>69761007
>pre colonial
So they were great until they had competition?
>>69761271
>or
STUPID AS FUCK AND SHEEIT LIKE THE OP !
>Ghana
>Horn of Africa
Christ
>>69761262
Awww did this thread hurt poor mr. Nig noggins feelings?
I am sure you can gain a massive following on twitter tweeting about how africans are gods among men, go there and spout stupidity til your heart's content.
>animals can be completely different species based on what side of a river they live on
>the american dindunigger is the same as the egyptian empire
>>69762193
They were taught by the WHITE competition, even setup up by their white overlords.
And they still failed and reverted to jungle spear chucking of the lowest form.
>>69761728
yeah, there's absolutely a social complexity to groups of apes. hierarchy, territory, needs of the pack, grooming, vocal communication. does it matter if they are not building roads or sitting in a call center? that is like saying that we were never a civilization, looking back on our species from the future. civility is a tiered progression with class-able demarcations
>>69762095
>damage control
>>69761007
Okay, so here's the history of Ancient Egypt. Let this be a warning for future generations!
Ancient Egypt was founded by white settlers that built a huge empire by enslaving the locals and putting them to work. The quality of life skyrocketed and, as whites typically do, they ran out of things to concern themselves with and got a nasty case of white guilt. Over time, they became too left to function and started emancipating slaves and giving them rights. Eventually, due to racial integration, the lines started to really blur. It was basically a hierarchy of uppity light skinned people enslaving the darkies. Even then, that class distinction wasn't enough for the leftists and they started paying the slaves exorbitant amounts for their labor. Eventually, because of relaxed immigration laws, a socialist economy, and everyone being the same golden brown curly haired person with no class distinction and proper education; the empire collapsed.
TLDR; whites took over Egypt, made it prosperous, got white guilt, interbred and became arabs, and shit up the whole place.
> Kingdom of Kush
DUDE
>>69761262
It warms the heart to admit to oneself that africans were the first to institutionalize slavery
>>69761007
>Kerma
>Kermat
>Kermit
>Kermit The Frog
>Frog
>Kek
>>69762420
or trying to provoke a discussion instead of saying nigger to come off as edgy >>69762389
North Africa was seperate from Sub Saharan Africa. The Sahara desert is a natural barrier like the Himalayan mountains.
African civilizations existed but they didn't reach the height of other civilizations like the Chinese, Mesopotamian, Aztecs, Incas, Greece, etc.
It can't just be a coincidence that blacks are the only ones to get enslaved by two civilizations (arab & european), get colonized by Europeans then emerge from colonization as economic basketcases. Even among South American countries there are some decent economies.
Also it can't be a coincidence that even among the transfered black population like african-american or Haiti those groups are still in poverty and high crime.
So basically there are two theories. Either there's something about blacks that gets every other race on the earth to hate them. Not just whites, they are hated by the Chinese, South Americans, etc. Not the celebrities but the average black. Blacks face racism everywhere, real and imagined.
The second theory is that there's something inherently violent or unpleasant about blacks that causes this friction with other races. We're not talking about MLK or Neil Tyson Degrasse, that's Dubois' "talented tenth". We're talkinga about the lower class dregs. Every race has dregs but black dregs seem to be the worst.
>>69762095
So, you'd like to believe that sub-Saharan African proto-human hominids (2.5 million years ago) developed the wheel, but that the technology was lost? I only ask because when modern white men first encountered black Africans (and Australian Aborigines, and Native Americans), no evidence of any wheel use, past or present, was ever found in any of their societies.
>Lucy
Not human. She was Australopithecus, not Homo.
>>69762420
>>>69762095
>>damage control
africa isn't civilized even today - so who knows what fucking "i, harlemquinn e-monkee cuntsidder " is blabbering about - an ant colony is the NEW WORLD to that faggot
>>69762108
Pretty much this. The Romans maintained detailed and meticulous records to the point that they rival modern day history. They are suitable as texts for serious study and analysis using what is actually a non-extinct language.
Even earlier groups like the Minoans maintained records of trade and law. African kingdoms relied more or less entirely on verbal law and record. There wasn't much centralized bureaucracy or a formalized law system that demanded everything be recorded for later review.
Sage and report spam
>>69762816
well since niggers and abbos aren't human either i guess it works out then.
>>69762712
brain functions could be more impulsive, primal. maybe they didn't select naturally for intellect specifically, which could make sense in a tribal violent africa covered in large predators with tons of game. long-hunts, where you injure the animal and literally run it down over hours definitely favors physical fitness. european homosapiens still had to compete with sabretooth etc, but they likely went extinct as we gradually killed off their primary game hunts. also, running mammoth off cliffs is a good example of social complexity as a different solution to a dangerous problem
>>69761007
>Kerma Civilization
wtf is that? if we mean (relatively) tenchnologically advanced cultures then pre-columbian has dozens and nigs 1
>Egyptian Empire
Weren't black and were white Greeks at their peak
>Kingdom of Axum
Got to give it to Ethiopia, Christians and held off Euros
Still starving nigs tho lol
>everything else
Trading nations held up by sandniggers that collapsed as soon as the Iberians found riches across the world
>>69762760
no, you don't need to develop a wheel. apes use sticks to harvest termites. they didn't develop a stick. they chose a tool that fits a role. in the same way, a round heavy object is clearly better suited for smashing difficult nuts. so, i'd like to believe that yes, someone along the way used a "wheel" like object for some task, whether it was rolling shit on top of like huge limbs to make the job easy etc...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MgHBvp1uwk
>>69762712
>Dubois' "talented tenth"
What's really striking is that the top 10% of black Americans are basically those who have IQ's which are not below that of the *average* white American. That is, if an African American has an IQ of at least 105, he is basically the "talented tenth" of his race.
>Only 16% of African Americans are able to score above 100 on an IQ test.
>>69761007
Back when they had spaceships and shit b4 the white devil stole all the africans advanced technology
>>69762830
Which makes African civilizations largely irrelevant to history. The academic study of history is largely predicated on having huge archives and tomes of boring information needed to draw a real picture of what happened in an entity, not just the perception that the society wanted to display outwardly.
Africans just didn't contribute anything because they had nothing to contribute.. whatever they achieved sank away with them. It's really too bad the library in Alexandria burned, had the texts survived to be replicated in the late Roman Empire, we would have a lot more information to glean about scientific thought and research during that period.
>>69761007
Well, let's go this list:
>Kerma Civilization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Beelden_van_Kerma.jpg
Don't look very black, more like Semitic peoples
>Egyptian Empire
Rocinante memes aside, Egyptians weren't black
>Kingdom of Kush
Ok, now we have an actual Black African empire
>Kingdom of Axum
As far as I know, they were pretty advanced for their time, and actually developed iron without first developing bronze which either means they were uncommonly skilled or traded for the knowledge.
They largely converted to Early Christianity, so these guys are OK in my books.
>Kingdom of Ife
Otherwise known as the Oyo Empire, they were kind of a joke both territorially and technologically. Marvellous bronze art, to be fair, but they were several centuries too late to be considered an advanced empire. I will say that they had a rich culture, but they were easy picking for the British. And such is the way of things, for stronger Empires will conquer weaker ones. There is no crime in this.
>Ghana Empire
Not an empire, unless you consider a bunch of highly dispersed, barely related villages an empire. They were more of a loose trade network than anything.
>Mali Empire
They were an empire in the same way the Huns had an empire. Basically a loose collection go conquered peoples with a barely centralized government. Culturally, they were basically dominated by the Arab/Berbers to the north. Not what I would call a civilization. Nice Architecture, though.
>Kingdom of Songhai
Poor man's mali
All in all, yes, Africa had civilizations. But it was mostly north africa, and they weren't empires in the european sense of the term. Which is why other civilizations were able to conquer them. Again, such is the way of things.
>>69761007
Surely if these claims are accurate, then they should be able to... y'know... do it again.
>>69762442
W-was this about America?
>>69762442
This is just as silly as afrocentrism
>>69763256
>Birds drop shit to crack it open. They used their masterful minds to use the entire earth as an instrument to do their bidding. If only we could be as clever. We only recently began tapping the earth's energy resources by setting up hydroelectric plants.
>>69763542
It's a warning to America.
>>69763543
IT IS WHAT HAPPENED
>>69762442
Makes you wonder why India is ruled by a light-skinned elite and the lower castes are darkies. Indian civilization goes back thousands of years.
>>69762816
>not Homo
Lucy was a dyke m80
>>69762108
Thing about the Zulus is that they really aren't an ancient civilisation at all. They pretty much only came into existence because of the Dutch settlers.
>>69763317
library was one of the worst things to happen to our species. it cuts us off starkly from the past in ways we'll never know.
even then, we "forget" languages nearly every week as some old human passes away. with him or her goes another story told only in words. good example is the northwest indian tribal story of the great flood, which coincided with a tsunami that's identified in the soil records. "some survived in canoes, pushed well inland and they floated among the tree tops. the water did not recede for two days." paraphrase
>kingdom of kush
negroes stay true to their roots
>>69761007
interestingly enough, all of them were destroyed and enslaved by white civilization, which ended up conquering the entire world.
>>69761007
same Type a nigger shit my black former coworker said. Before he stole a car and moved to Texas.
>>69763793
Seems as if more of an effort needs to be made to transcribe and record oral stories.
>>69763596
birds are clever as fuck, and they learn. a ton of their behavior is taught to the next generation, as well as their communications with song and dance. i'd love to know how much dinosaurs taught their young, and i wouldn't be surprised if some used tools like an ape or birds that we observe today
>>69761007
The biggest biological achievement of black race is that they basically bred out inferior other human races such as Neanderthals and Homo eretus.
>>69763635
Well yes, several dynasties enslaved the nubians to the south, but Egyptians weren't white like indo-europeans. They were closer to arabs. That being said, at least one middle dynasty was nubian (I don't think it lasted all that long anyway). The Egyptians were conquered by at one point by Hittites who WERE indo-european early on. They introduced the chariot to the egyptians, a tool that led to the latter's imperial ambitions.
>>69763929
there are efforts all over in the world, but it's a losing battle. younger generations don't need it, older generation doesn't have a lot of time, and before you know it it's gone. i remember one example where some group was traveling to record those kinds of old stories from whoever would tell them, so they at least have it to upload later
>>69762095
>"absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"
So WE WUZ KANGZ is a religion?
>>69761007
>Kinda makes you think, doesn't it?
nice meme
>>69761007
>african techno sorcerers had a 3.2 million head start on everyone else.
>still living in mid/shit huts today.
>>69762442
lol, every time
>>69764435
no, what religion? african religion is oral storytelling, dance and the use of objects to represent ideas or prayers. which is a lot like other tribes all over the world. they simply integrate aspects of other religious beliefs. for example, even if they've adopted islam- instead of a curse written on a rock and buried under the neighbors door, they just use a koranic verse.
>>69761007
>Egypt
>African Empire
implying it wasn't ancient America with one Obama
>>69761934
>>69764707
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence meme argument is used a lot by theists, that's what I was talking about. It doesn't matter if there's no evidence, you just need to have faith, have faith in WE WUZ KANGZ.
Thanks, burguer. You ruined the joke by making me explain it.
>>69764229
>inferior other human races
as far as "where ever I go, I must also rape" goes...
>>69761262
The people who mutilate female genitals and consume children's hearts to fight.
>>69762442
>Ancient Egypt was founded by white settlers
No it wasn't.
>>69764869
oh dude, i don't associate the quote with religion. it's just a good quote all around, to me. it applies to science just as well. if you expect a result because of observations that fit a pattern, but you can't see the result- it's still a hypothesis. higgs boson etc
>>69764306
YEAH THEY HELD ELECTIONS AND PEOPLE SAID IT'S ABOUT TIME WE HAVE SOMEONE OF COLOR IN OFFICE!
I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE, IT'S 746 B.C.!
Also, you don't know they weren't white at the beginning. My story matches historical accounts so fuck off. All your shitty art is from well after the whites cucked themselves.
>>69764792
Needs more Tyrone
>>69765194
Yes, lad. Have faith in we wuz kangz. I'm sure it will be proven true one of these days.
>>69761007
>kingdom of kush
AYO DAS MY HOOD FAMILY
*smacks lips*
HOL UP WE BE SLINGIN DAT DANK KUSH ERRY DAY YOOOO
nigga we waz mudafukin kangz
crackas just keepin us dowwwn
>when will they apologise for slavery?
>>69761007
So the africans owe the jews an appology for slavery?
>lucy was a chimp
>egypt is african
>all the other great civilizations were small empires that were entirely inside africa
>meanwhile british empire colonized half the world
>someone down the line actually believed this bait
>>69765395
yeah honestly, with the fuck massive gap in our human history, i'm sure there was some level of civilization in ancient africa. i'm "faithful" that there were tribes that worked together. "faithful" that there were tools communities, some form of language, dwellings to protect from predators and the elements. maybe even engineering, like using fire to burn away overgrowth or herd hunts. i don't think it takes faith to believe that though. i think it's kind of retarded to deny it.
>>69765104
That's a heavily weathered version of the first king of a unified Egypt, upper and lower.
If you look at others, you'll see he has very white attributes. But good job CHERRYPICKING you marxist shill.
Obviously they wanted to "UNIFY" the kingdoms. The upper kingdom needed the northern whites in the lower kingdom to give them "FREE SHIT". The catalyst was putting a half breed in charge. Now tell me this doesn't ring a bell?
This is all part of the story of Egypt that isn't told in the Critical Theory indoctrinated school systems.
>>69765841
Let's look at some other early pharaohs.
Lel all of those empires were probably spared by the Romans anyway
Also, the Ptolemaic dynasty had control of Egypt for 300 years before the Romans fucked them up too, and they were Macedonian by origin.
>>69765990
How does this not go along with my story? These people are clearly mixed and of course the further along they are, the more mixed they are. It's what I wrote!
>>69766150
[citation needed]
>>69766204
You don't need a citation for a theory. Quit cherrypicking the perfect angles to make this Pharaohs look as niggest as possible.
>>69763456
>Rocinante memes
That's Don Quixote's horse and this badass spaceship.
Raziocinante is a afrocentric nigger living in Italy and he still posts here unless it's a shared trip.
There are evidences that black people invaded Egypte. They always were at war with the shitskins.
So what? I don't understand the hype around this.
We was king...
Me too, i mean whites have been kings and emperors.
American negros aren't even Africans. They wouldn't put one foot in Africa since it's a major shithole. Two third of slaves from Africa stayed in the African continent. If there is someone to blame for slavery it's the african people.
>>69766280
I'm cherry picking any angles. Your free to post the busts in different angles.
>>69765605
The Jews settled, invaded, and established a dynasty over Egypt for several generations in reality. Now even the Jews owe the blacks an apology :^)
It's amazing how /pol/ simultaneously mocks blacks for claiming Egypt and then says Egypt was white.
They would have been closer in genetics to the Assyrians or the Akkadians and they aren't white.
Of course, there are some people on this board who are such fucking failures in life that thinking they are the descendants of anything other than peasants is the only way they can cope with depression; just realize you're doing the same thing.
>>69766359
*I'm not
>>69766121
i would bet that war instigated whatever would become the ancient egyptian empires. that's a common theme, when resources become contested, long warring tribes assemble into unified communities and on it goes. war was probably at least one catalyst for most things we observe, including our immigration outward from africa to begin with. populations cannot grow forever peacefully if the food becomes rare and delicate rivalry sparks violence
>the Pharo WeWuz gets assassinated
>>69761007
So they had all that time and yet when colonialism came around knocking they had nothing to defend themselves?
What about freezing to death in the snowy cold or burning up in the dry desert that pushes technological/philosophical development into overdrive.
Seriously Africans clearly had more time to play around with sentience by a large margin. They should be the peak of the world yet the entire continent is so far behind and always had been. What happened?
>>69765990
Looks like it took a while to develop techniques that could effectively sustain the structure of the jew nose in stone.
>>69766387
You clearly are and you're clearly biased, which means you're not really qualified to criticize my theory seeing as you have a conflict of interest in proving it wrong.
ANCIENT EGYPT NIGGAS USED TO BE CATS YO TIL THE FUKKKIN WHITE MAYNE TURNT UP N TURNT US INTO MONKEYS N SHIET
>>69765990
>posts a bunch of Asians, aliens, and white people
>thinks it means black people ruled ancient Egypt
>Implying having the oldest bones found means you are where people come from
I hate how many normies don't understand how rare it is for anything to die with the right circumstances to become fossilized.
>>69766333
Right, that goy.
>>69766387
No, no... you were right the first time, friend.
>>69766584
I'm not biased, just debunking the annoying lies told here.
>>69761095
First post, best post.
>>69761007
Daily reminder
>>69766480
>Seriously Africans clearly had more time to play around with sentience by a large margin.
a violent existence, natural selection that broadly favored athleticism, tribal culture and a nomadic lifestyle. you could say the same for native americans. it's difficult to contrast the west/east with africa exactly. maybe we were the exceptions (there's really no maybe here), as our own societal histories are relatively short compared to the age of our species. it really does seem that the "successful" civilizations were exceptions to the rule.
>>69766749
You're clearly cherry picking the shit out of things and you have nothing to say for yourself other than, "no I'm not"
>>69766730
Here's other versions of Nefertiti
>>69766695
i see where you're going with that, but it's not just old. genetic analysis, it's a traceable lineage. i'm not saying that other cousins didn't develop, because they surely did and the genetic evidence is there that we interbred and went our own ways. there's a common keystone species in africa though. the walking ape. exactly one female of those led to all of us, at some point on the tree.
are you saying that there's a completely independent lineage that developed with zero roots in africa?
>>69766918
>implying Europe wasn't violent
>implying that athleticism isn't favored everywhere
>implying black men don't love fat women
>implying it's not cold in the northern area of what is now the United States
>implying nationalism isn't the logical evolution of tribal culture
Talking out of your ass
>>69761095
/thread.
>>69766584
Your theory is shit, where is the proof? Where are the Nordic Aryan busts?
>>69761007
Model a fords were real good till they were superseded as well. Now they are laughable. The only difference is model a fords dont rob liquor stores.
>>69768070
I didn't say Nordic you twit. But all the caucasian busts are in between all the ones you cherry picked. They're the ones you've been filtering out all along. Don't tell me you didn't see them.
>>69767914
nah but i'm not, i think i'm one of a few posters here not posting one-liner zingers and leaving for the next new thread to shit on.
i didn't imply any of that. most of my posts in this thread are about the why that underlines his question, because i think it's an interesting discussion.
Civilization and agriculture got transplanted to North Africa from Asia.
All those civilizations listed have deep connections to Eurasia.
Axum was founded by people from the Arabian peninsula.
>>69766730
The Eqypgtians looked very West Asiatic.
>>69761262
...and with that little temper tantrum, OP left his thread - never to return - like the coward he is.
>>69768841
That's alright, I created a red pilled thread to combat this one.
Other stories and accounts appreciated
>>69768366
>>69768366
>>69768366
Who gives a fuck?
It has nothing to do with Africans of today.
They could have fucking invented God and civilized behavior, and it wouldn't matter one iota if they didn't behave that way today.
>>69769079
how in the hell would the origins of religion and civilization not matter because of their condition today?
>please respond
>Lucy
>African
>>69761007
How can anyone be that retarded? Civilization has only been around for thousands of years, not for all of humanity's existence.
>>69769629
>he doesn't know about the nuclear holocaust that killed the Egyptians
>>69761007
And in each one they were surrounded by savages who they enslaved.
>>69761095
FPBP strikes again!
