Why are you not vegan yet?
>inb4 vitamin b
>in before op can't inb4
>>69748914
Because most people's understanding of nutrition is based off what the meat, dairy, pharmaceutical and fast food industry tells them they believe
You cannot be "red pilled" like most /pol/acks claim to be until you understand this
>>69748914
meat tastes good.
>>69748914
>Why are you not vegan yet?
Technically I can't be because I eat meat.
>>69748914
pic related
I won't be vegan until you can explain to me why being in a symbiotic relationship with chickens and cows, where we take their milk and eggs while they get fed and housed, is wrong.
Why can't I just be a vegetarian?
>>69748914
Animals exist solely for our fun and use, maybe you should give me a reason based on REASON and not FEELS.
>>69748914
Everyone stops eating meat.
Cow population explodes
Pig population explodes
Deer are literally everywhere
Humans die from environmental disaster because methane levels are astronomical. Ground and surface water completely ruined by pesticide and fertilizer runoff from all the massive new kale farms.
>>69748914
I will never understand why vegans hate plants so much.
I'm starting again on Monday.
>>69750004
The only reason their population is so to begin with is cause we farm them for food.
Try harder faggot.
>>69750004
Most of the cows and pigs will die when farmers stop feeding them, any that are still around will be a boon to the carnivores.
>>69749939
two main types of vegans:
animal ethics - the preachy vegans talking about animal cruelty etc.
health - the ones who consider the effects of meat/dairy have on the body largely as a result of the industrialisation of meat/dairy (e.g. growth hormones in milk)
Going vegan promotes better health - and is a better reason than simply animal ethics.
p.s. the two reasons are not mutually exclusive but usually one reason dominates the other as a motive
>>69750240
So? Do you have better enviro friendly extraction method for eggs and milk?
>>69750046
If killing plants means hating plants, then you must hate plants even more, since meat eaters are responsible for far more plant deaths than vegans. I trust you're competent enough to piece together why.
>>69750004
>populations of animals bred specifically for human consumption will explode if humans stop breeding them for consumption
Are you really this fucking incompetent? An hero. You are literally more unintelligent than the average 9gag user.
Since it was proved that homo sapiens got their intelligence boost from eating meat, Im doing my part to keep the species as smart as it can be.
y'all keep nothing but leaves, y'all undermining our evolution
>>69749850
Chimps have the same teeth and thier diet is 97% vegan. The rest being insects.
>>69749850
You're posting that as proof that humans are meant to be herbivores, right? Seeing as those are nothing like the teeth of carnivores.
>>69750291
You really think that vegans will allow mass starvation/culling of millions of innocent animals. Also a boon to the carnivores. Then wolf coyote and any other predetor species population balloons and starts sport killing due to an overabundance of food. Have fun scraping dead rotten animal off of every square foot of space. Oh and not to mention how aggressive they will become. No more jogging for you and your teacup poodle faggot.
>>69748914
because fuck you
>>69750395
Yea they will die off. What are feral hogs then?
>>69750933
>implying peta doesnt mass murder animals annually
I hope they all die like you say so we can have more fertilizer
>>69748914
I will eat three animals for every one you do not eat.
There has always been a hierarchy in nature, and to be submissive and refuse to take advantage of the food chain you are so lucky to be on top of, you are waiving your right to survive for the sake of another specie's survival. By definition, this makes you weak. Vegans aren't respectable people in the slightest; they're as bad as cuckolds and regressive leftists. They have the same kind of "other's first, me last" mentality that ends up cucking themselves.
>>69748914
>>69751458
Ok say they do just up and die. Because no animal can find food on its own. What do you do with all the corpses? Let em poison the water and create disease hotspots? Vegans wont have the stomach to dispose of millions of cow carcasses in the middle of a texas summer.
>>69750395
>I'm right because
>insult
>more insults
>another insult
makes sense
>>69751403
But what if eating meat and dairy is worse for you than a plant-based diet? Wouldn't it make you a lot weaker than if you were damaging your own body - and hence making you degenerate?
The answer to all the debate of plant-based diets is whether or not nutrition has an objective measure
>>69752531
I don't give a shit
Meat and dairy are delicious
>>69748914
we get it, you're vegan. ok?
>>69750240
>caring about male chicks who are the size of a marble
>not caring about human fetuses which are the size of tennis balls
wew lad - liberal hypocrisy (or misanthropy) taken to the next level
>>69751596
He's right though.
>>69752706
kek, I agree
but let me just say, I am okay with people drinking soft drink everyday, for example, so long as they understand the health consequences of their actions
Same thing with diet. I couldn't care much what anyone else but just as long as they understand, for example, eggs are by US Law not allowed be to labelled "healthy" or even "safe" for that matter due to their cholesterol content. The only concern is when people are unaware of the implications of their choices
>>69748914
Nobody fucking cares. Go virtue signal somewhere else.
>>69750663
Diet. Chimps are omnivores and eat not only fruits, nuts, seeds, blossoms, and leaves but many kinds of insects and occasionally, the meat of medium-sized mammals.
www.janegoodall.ca/about-chimp-behaviour-diet.php
WHAAAT WAS TTHAT
>>69748914
Even plants know you are wrong
>>69754847
>>69748914
Animals are property. I can claim property. Therefore I can do what I wish to that property.
>>69748914
Hedonism
>>69748914
It's not economically sustainable yet for me or society. If you want to get on that (and also massacre animal populations to prevent over-population) I'm 100% okay with becoming vegan. Seems pretty idyllic honestly. Just a fantasy right now, though.
Too inconvenient
>>69748914
Because vegetables don't compare to raw muscle tissue.
Delicious.
>>69748914
Because not using animal products guarantees a swift death for every non human animal on the planet. Anything that has no industrial value to us will eventually be destroyed, and I believe the biodiversity and history of life on earth should be maintained even if cruelty is necessary.
I will gladly wear alligator boots, snake skin belts, an eagle feather cap, and a mink scarf if that means the farming of these animals creates incentive to breed and protect them.
Lmao OP probably has debate class tomorrow against veganism and couldnt come up with anything.
Dietitian here. Fun fact, healthy livers can store enough b12 to last for 5-10 years.
>>69757418
Doubt most of 4chan have healthy livers desu
>>69750933
>vegans will allow mass starvation/culling of millions of innocent animals
Exactly. It's better for them to die than live a life of servitude, right? And also, it helps the planet if they aren't a drain on our resources, right? It's not like anyone was using them, right?
Think of the long term consequences of your actions, and you will find the best way to protect animals is to consume them like there is no tomorrow. This is a planet of capitalists.
>>69748914
Vegan have more chance to get cancer.
>>69757508
Wat? I don't recommend a vegetarian/vegan diet but there is no increased cancer risk, and the opposite is the actual truth.
you're all smug retards who think your word is law.
literally as bad as sjws
>>69757508
Yoshi, that is only true if you get your produce from Hiroshima Farms.
>>69748914
We are omnivorous and there's literally no reason to not eat meat, besides muh feelz.
>>69752897
>>caring about male chicks who are the size of a marble
What does size have to do with anything? The lives of you shitposting australian manlets must not be worth much if size matters.
>>not caring about human fetuses which are the size of tennis balls
When did I suggest that I don't care about the lives of human fetuses, fucktard? I don't support abortion. Keep projecting, though.
>>69748914
>Why are you not vegan yet?
Rather, why would I become one?
>>69751058
>>69751102
>>69751244
>>69752706
>/pol/ generally takes logic-based, objective stances on issues
>then veganism is brought up
>taking a logical, objective, morally consistent stance on veganism (that is, becoming vegan) is seen as "too hard" for weak-willed faggots
>degress to the "MUH FEELS" shitposting of SJWs
>"Dick in my ass feels good so I'll be gay!"
>"I feel like being a girl so I'll be a tranny!"
>"Letting rapefugees into my country makes me feel like a good humanitarian so I'll let them in!"
>"Meat tastes good so I'll eat meat!"
Really shows a lot about you faggots when you'll stoop to the level of shitposting and MUH FEELS as soon as your self-indulgent lifestyles are threatened.
>>69757418
>Dietitian
Yeah and I'm a nuclear engineer
>>69757674
objective citation pl0x
Literally it gives you cancer
Veganism BTFO forever and ever.
Vegans, kill yourselves now, it's better than a long drawn agony.
https://www.rt.com/usa/337952-vegetarianism-cancer-study-cornell/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/29/long-term-vegetarian-diet-changes-human-dna-raising-risk-of-canc/
>>69759642
it costs too much money
literally everything there.
>>69748914
I'm not a fucking vegan because all you fucking idiots are loud and obnoxious and keeps trying to force me to adopt your shitty lifestyle
identifying yourself as a vegan is identifying yourself with this huge fucking faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsdBym3_18Y
>>69748914
Because I'm American.
>>69748914
because i dont want to be
>>69759642
literally no reason to become vegan.
i dont give a shit about the feelings of cows and pigs. i dont give a shit about supposed health concerns linked to meat consumption.
i DO give a shit about eating tasty meat. that's quality of life.
>>69759653
I don't see what's so unbelievable.
>>69759709
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/22/2/286.full
Enjoy
All vegans are hypocrites. If you are bitten by a snake you're not going to reject vaccine because it was made from farmed snakes. If you have a heart valve failure you're not going to deny a transplant of a pig or cow valve. If you truly beleive that animal lives are so important you must believe that through and through. People who do it for health reasons are ok, I just don't understand why they don't just avoid foods they believe are bad.
>>69759642
>comparing all that to a man enjoying a burger
You're fucking retarded
LOL at vegans getting BTFO
>>69748914
Because I want a balance diet.I'm not going to eat grass.
>>69763803
>http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/22/2/286.full
>>69748914
>talking about caring about life
>ignoring plant life for various arbitrary reasons
>all reasons lead to caring about whatever the reason was rather than life
