/pol/ used to have /ChristianGenerals/ fairly often, but I never got around to asking back when those were commonplace.
What's the best Church to go to for a closeted fedora in middle America, seeking to convert? I'd prefer a denomination that's typically active with youth groups, etc. Essentially I want to actually meet people and be part of a community, rather than just go to mass on Sundays alone.
>>69747136
The Amish community.
Unitarian Universalist. They have a pretty chill "there are many paths to God" mentality. Though many other denominations would argue that they're not legit Christians.
Mormons
>>69747136
By middle America, which state range do you mean?
Just go to any protestant or even a mormon church. Rest is absolutely heretic-tier and any /pol/ack that says otherwise is literally a shitskin.
The Amish or Franciscans
>>69747136
Baptists around my state always had "youth groups" that would be made up of only teens and/or young adults. They'd go to Chick-Fil-A or coffee shops and talk about god/bible/philosophy amongst themselves
>>69747311
Would you mind giving a rundown of the theological arguments for or against them being legit Christians? I'm not super well-versed in this subject.
>>69747329
I have considered it just because every Mormon I've run into I've really liked; however, I did want to stick with traditional Christianity. Plus, I would feel bad joining a Mormon Church only to realize it doesn't click,.
>>69747136
I was raised methodist, and that's fine so long as they aren't using guitars or something retarded; that would be a huge red flag.
It really varies. Just because a church is apart of a specific denomination doesn't really say much about whether they will be degenerate or not.
Try a few Baptist Churches in your area.
>>69747491
Which state do you live in, Anon?
>>69747435
Colorado. I know it's not technically "Midwest," but I'd put it closer there, than to the Western states themselves.
Orthodox or Mormon if you can get around their insane beliefs.
>>69747136
Most evangelical churches are pretty good. Baptists aren't bad, or Missouri Synod Lutheran. Unitarians don't really believe anything.
>>69747596
Moreover, when you actually do go, talk to the pastor after the service about being interested/looking to convert.
>>69747497
>God is one entity, not a trinity.
>One God and the oneness or unity of God.
>The life and teachings of Jesus Christ constitute the exemplar model for living one's own life.
>Reason, rational thought, science, and philosophy coexist with faith in God.
>Humans have the ability to exercise free will in a responsible, constructive and ethical manner with the assistance of religion.
>Human nature in its present condition is neither inherently corrupt nor depraved (see original Sin) but capable of both good and evil, as God intended.
>No religion can claim an absolute monopoly on the Holy Spirit or theological truth.
>Though the authors of the Bible were inspired by God, they were humans and therefore subject to human error.
You have two options.
Catholicism or Orthodoxy.
Research the claims, the theology, which feels more like true Church. Either way you end up, you are closer to the Truth than any protestant denomination.
>>69747602
Texas, but we have a lot of baptists in my neck of the woods, so I'm not so sure if it's as super common in other states.
Wouldn't doubt that there are youth groups abundant as long as there are a sizable amount of baptists.
>>69747136
Which region are you in?
>>69747836
Can't go wrong with any Apostolic Church.
>>69747836
If you're in the US you should basically just go Catholic if you want an apostolic church
Slavs are great and all, but they have ethnic churches for a reason: they don't want you there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh_p20lHqtA
>>69747136
Go Catholic. Mass is about worshiping the Almighty. It's not a social club.
If you want to be social go to a Bar or meetup.com or something.
>>69747663
I've generally heard positive things about Orthodox, but haven't seen many churches in my area. Like I mentioned above, I've known plenty of Mormons and liked them all, but I'm not too happy about the idea of lying about my faith just to join a community.
>>69747832
Thanks, anon.
>>69747891
Thankfully, I live in a military town with a decent number of Texans, so hopefully that sense of community is something they brought along with them.
>>69747958
Pic related.
>>69747497
From the wikipedia article:
>Unitarian Universalism[2][3][4] is a liberal religion characterized by a "free and responsible search for truth and meaning".[5][6] Unitarian Universalists do not share a creed but are unified by their shared search for spiritual growth. As such, the Unitarian Universalist Church (UU) includes many agnostics, theists, and atheists among its membership. The roots of UU are in liberal Christianity, specifically Unitarianism and Universalism. Unitarian Universalists state that from these traditions comes a deep regard for intellectual freedom and inclusive love, so that congregations and members seek inspiration and derive insight from all major world religions.[7]
It really seems like an interfaith religion, with Christian traditions. Although there may be Christian Unitarian Universalists, they do not claim to be all Christians.
If you want to be around ultra Christian conservatives, try a Baptist or Pentecostal church.
If you're looking for culture, I'd recommend a Roman Catholic or Orthodox church.
>be autistic
>get bullied
>fight back so don't get bullied to my face
>always excluded
>no friends
>everywhere I go its the same
I'm so lonely.
>>69747602
What part of co you at brah?
>>69748527
Reminder that the one thing common with heresies is that they focus on one specific issue to the exclusion of the rest.
>>69748263
I get the impression that you live in the absolute worst place for Christians in the US. The Catholic churches might be full of South Americans there, and the Protestant ones are all Evangelicucks
>>69748527
>loosely tied meme of le pokey nose evil man is totally Protestantism and Catholicism
kill urself my dood
>>69747136
Orthodox parishes usually have coffee hours every Sunday and we do BBQs and fasting and stuff when we're not fasting. Our parishes tend to be smaller too so the communal life is very strong and close.
>>69747136
>he wants to believe in talking snakes in magical gardens
WHY? Did the fedora meme injure you that badly? Grow some balls.
>>69747136
Christians went to /his/ due to constant shitposting here.
>>69748705
>>69748724
On the off-chance that you're not shills, read the Bible with this the information given in >>69506298 and compare it to current world-events. You will be enlightened.
>>69747677
>>69748708
What's do you like about the Missouri Synod? Raised UCC (which is shit) and I've been going to a Missouri synod church off and on, haven't made my mind up on joining yet though.
>>69748527
>divide and conquer tier bullshit
nope
>>69747136
Go Episcopalian!! We definitely don't secretly control the US gov.
>>69748871
That's overly simplistic.
>>69748944
Of course, everyone knows the Mormons do.
Try going with Adventist but don't convert.
>>69747497
>I would feel bad joining a Mormon Church only to realize it doesn't click,.
Just invite some missionaries over to your house, senpai. They'll come and chill with you for a while and talk with you about whatever you want really.
>>69748926
>divide and conquer tier bullshit
The entire Bible revolves around genealogy. To think race isn't important is extremely ignorant. Couple this with how white people are the most successful people on Earth, and the jews determination to exterminate us. You are deceived.
Try Seventh Day Adventist, a lot of ministry work there and youth groups. I find the music lacking though, its all typical 1800s hymnals, cant stand it really.
If i wasnt married to an SDA chick I would probably at least check out Eastern Orthodoxy though
>>69748926
Also, who are we dividing? Whites from non-whites? What board are you browsing? This is not reddit.
>>69749327
>>69749403
Sola Scriptura snow-nigger, please
>>69749052
There is much more information in the thread I linked, and even more to be found by using a search-engine or reading the Bible.
>>69749563
You're missing the point. The >kike on a stick posters are just atheists and you should address their atheism directly rather than getting hung up on genealogy
>>69749470
Are you implying I adhere to sola-scriptura, or that I should?
>>69748359
What do you mean by Culture, anon?
>>69748661
Co Springs. What about you?
>>69748705
Went to Catholic Church with my Grandma once for Easter, this was definitely the case for those. Can't really speak for the protestant ones.
>>69748830
Wasn't just the fedora meme. The older I get, the more I realize that Christians have it right.
>>69748858
Good to know, thanks.
>>69749089
Considered doing that, kind of afraid of sperging out though, tbqh.
>>69749332
Can't say I'm really opposed to the 1800s hymnals bit, seems like more of a plus, honestly. Thanks for the recommendation.
>>69749703
Look at the information in the infograph. It's goes deeper than what you're saying.
Also, hung up on genealogy? Like I said, the entire Bible revolves around it.
>>69749722
I'm implying you have a low-church Protestant background.
>>69749869
I've never been active in a church or in any strict denomination.
>>69749869
Also, see >>69507737 and >>69509430 and >>69510861
>>69750069
Same thing, basically.
>>69748423
I'll be your friend burgerbro.
>>69750147
See, you're trying to make Christianity into something that only applies to the modern situation of mass immigration into white countries, and that supports your opinion in this. This is a HUGE oversimplification of the faith, and thus a heresy.
>>69749794
>Considered doing that, kind of afraid of sperging out though, tbqh.
Trust me, man, those missionaries will be glad to get invited over. It's better than knocking on doors and expecting to get greeted with a shotgun. Plus, in a lot of places, most of their time is spent studying the scriptures. They'll be more than happy to sit down with you for a few hours and get some time doing other shit.
>>69747136
Fake and gay
You don't choose a cult - a cult chooses you
>>It's not only applied to the modern society. Who brought black slaves to America for instance? What race basically kick-started all civilization across the planet? Read the Bible. It will all make sense from this perspective. Everything throughout history can be explained with this. The jewish influence, white superiority, ancient white civilizations, everything. I need to sleep now, it's 05:06 in Sweden. Don't just scrub this off as "heresy". It's organized religion that is. Especially protestantism and catholicism.
Same goes to you OP >>69747136
Think before you take advice from shills and jews.
>>69750680
Meant for >>69750385
No green text
>>69749403
There is absolutely nothing deterring Catholics from being nationalist/racialist, i am one. You're telling us to ditch Catholicism just for the sake of it
>>69747435
>mormon
>not the biggest heretics by far
If your desire is just a youth group then you might have to try several churches. It's a total crap shoot which church has active youth groups or not. If theology doesn't bother you Mormons usually have a decent one. If you like being active in the community and not just sit around in church all day Methodists get pretty active or you could join Knights of Columbus through the Catholic Church. It all depends on your state and town and what you're comfortable trying really.
>>69750680
Just read E. Michael Jones' (a Catholic) The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit: And Its Impact on World History. This is what the Catholic church traditionally taught about the Jews, but it doesn't OBSESS about the Jews. In fact, I didn't think Jews actually existed in the modern day until I met a few in high school.
>>69747311
Unironic heresy.
>>69749332
I've been to nearly every major denomination in Christianity and haven't got to try SDA yet. I did go to three different Eastern Orthodox churches though and loved them. Unlike what people may think they're actually really welcoming and love visitors. Old Greek ladies practically packed my truck full of free food I didn't even ask for one time.
>>69751509
Did they ask you to marry their mustachioed granddaughters?
>>69751754
I think I must have avoided that one. I spent more time talking with the priest than anything. I did slip out the back door of a Mormon church one day because I didn't feel like staying a 4th hour to listen to missionaries since I already spent 3 hours going through their service and two classes.
I have an uncle who is a priest. He's always wanted me to be a priest. I think im just too critical to really believe in god, but i like the positive influence of the church. I hate that casinos are going up and churches are going down where i live.
>>69747136
>closeted fedora in middle America
No idea about US. Pic is my church. It's in northern England
My denomination is High Church Anglican.
>High Church Anglicanism tends to be closer than Low Church to Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox Christian teachings.
What matters is faith in Christ. And prayer. Perhaps you could speak to your pastor/vicar/priest.
I won't guide you, as you must come to your own decision.
Some music for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-J2kuSCLvE&list=RDrVLlBDgQsOo&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR-wEbZqT1c
I will pray for you, Anon. And wish you well in your search.
>>69747136
>I'd prefer a denomination that's typically active with youth groups, etc...
Suburban baptist.
>>69752272
How liberal is high church Anglican? I went to the Episcopal Church but it was a little too liberal for my tastes then I went to one that wasn't in the Anglican Communion and they seemed more conservative and had elements I recognized from Catholicism and Orthodoxy which I liked. Not sure how it is in Bongistan.
>>69752333
Baptists have youth groups but mileage will vary on how good or bad they are. I grew up in a Baptist church and the one my church had was pretty crap. Others in the area had better ones that did more stuff.
>>69752272
Seems like a nice Church, anon. Thanks for the prayers.
>>69752333
Baptist seems to be doing well here, I'll keep that in mind with the Mormons, SDA, and Orthodox.
>>69752000
That's part of what's been pushing me towards Christianity, in all honesty.
>>69750898
Thanks for the recommendation, anon.
>>69752630
My religion is probably considered as socially conservative. We respect all denominations as paths to God. I'm very close to Orthodoxy. I pray everyday; and read the Holy Bible.
I'd love to advise you, but I can't. It's not for me to guide you. I don't have that right. You hold the key in your hand.
Some more music for you; I hope you like it.
It's from Armenia and is ancient.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_kcY37ViYM&list=PL02E45E3AEAAAE6AB
Another pic of my church.
>>69747311
>"I am the the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
>there are many paths to God and all all are equally valid
Pick one.
HEY YOU HAVE 5 SECONDS
Should I convert to Orthodoxy or Catholicism, and why?
>>69754842
Neither. They're both heretical.
>>69754114
I'm in the same boat as you so I just thought I'd share a little of what I've learned. I've tried tons of churches over the course of about two and a half years now and still try some on occasion but I've slowed down on it due to life issues.
>>69754884
Well what then? I wanna follow the bible and ignore the Torah/Old Testament
Also bump, THIS IS A CHRISTIAN BOARD
>>69747136
Anglican, pretty much any Protestant church is fine though.
>>69754842
Whichever one has the higher population density in your area.
>>69747136
I grew in the Catholic Church, and we had many youth group events.
>>69754842
Why not try both yourself and talk to the priests? You'll get more out of that than trying to ask /pol/ to make a decision for you.
>>69755587
Pretty sure it's mixed here
>>69755658
I'd like to have the advice of people who are probably within my ideological lines.
What, am I gonna go and ask a priest if his church are fag enablers? Come on m8
No shit I'll talk with priests of both denominations before making a decision.
>>69755500
As a christian, you can make that decision for yourself. Find some nondenominational christian missionaries ask them questions. Stay away from the easy-believer types though they're even worse.
>>69754842
Sedevacantism
>and why?
Because it's 1958, duh.
>>69755915
Things to avoid when looking for a church:
>idolatry
>"just ask Jesus into your heart and you're saved"
>obsession with "prophecies"
>greed
>strange dietary restrictions
>rationalization of violence and hatred
>Gnosticism
>apocrypha
Pretty much anything that distracts from Christ and or perverts the Gospel.
>>69747136
Either Catholicism or Orthodoxy. Catholic priests are usually pretty cool about talking to potential converts desu, but if you're looking to really get into the faith don't be afraid to talk to different denominations and learn what they're all about.
>>69756371
saved
>>69756378
Thanks
Can one be saved from reading and following the bible without ever seeing a priest?
RC all the way. Protestants don't even recieve communion even though Jesus told to do it in memory of him. They don't believe in confession as well even though Jesus authorized his apostles to forgive sin.
>>69756745
Faith and repentance are the path to salvation so a priest isn't necessary, though speaking to one would be helpful.
>>69756967
But conservative Lutherans do both
>>69756745
Faith, repentance, baptism, growth. It's kind of hard to do those without a decent church. Aside from which the Bible calls for us to go to church and stresses the importance of church. If you want a good start, pick a concordance and an interlinear.
>>69749794
Eh, I was a missionary,
I mostly just wanted to teach people, nevermind their quarks
