The only way you get all this anti-Nationalism mess to stop once and for all is that you forcibly change the discussion and consider Jews to be part of the White Race, and make THEM believe it too, BEFORE being Jewish.
I mean, they fit the general requirements for being white already. They're genetically from the region where Slavs and Russians began, it's their nepotism and social isolation built from millenia of diaspora that has broken them from the identity of whiteness. If we had supported Jewish Nationalism efforts alongside our own, we probably would have had the nationally proper societies we wanted, but now people play a game of Jewish Nationalism being framed as NOT nationalist.
What we have to do is to socially redirect the concept of Jews as whites first, and Jews or Israelis second. National movements are united by race, so framing Jews to consider racial purity first will frame the context of OUR nations suffering as hypocritical to the average Jew. And it no longer frames the top globalist jews who will destroy nations for a quick buck as representative of their race, but out of touch with it, destroying their power and influence over the direction of the conversation. The media knows this so jews are taught to be bound by religion and nation first, rather than the blood they ARE first bound by.
If we have a hope of countering the Soroses and the Spectres of the world, we must radically change the people they draw protection from. We must make Jews consider themselves first as White.
So, how do we do this?
SJWs and Trump already consider them white
But the Hebrew people were brown. Zionists are evil shape shifters that whites must kill.
Cursed by God.
Jews aren't white, they never will be.
Stop posting IDF
Can't fight two wars at the same time.
Necessary alliances need to be made in order to take out the biggest of two evils.
>>69741674
>>69741638
Then you will never win.
If being right, and calling things as they were made you win, would white people be in the situation they are now?
Anyone here watch Defamation? How some of the key lobbyists talked about how 'hatred of jews can keep them in power by painting their actions as noble against ANY hate, regardless of what it is'? Haven't you put two and two together on that? The elites frame for israelis that whites hate them so they divide from Europe as a whole, and they let enough hatred to keep our side from accepting the general populace as a white raced group either. That division opens them to be exempt from the actions they play, and it makes them able to frame the 'good side' of the discussion how they want it.
When THEIR people are made vulnerable to their machniations too, they can no longer hide under 'fighting anti-Semitism' as their own actions affect THEM negatively as well. Why do people not get this?
>>69741489
They want you to think of them as white. Then when they discuss whites, they can pull the jew card and say it doesn't include them.
Just look at J. J. Abrams and the oscars.
>>69742284
I think the biggest fear is being afraid that you won't want to war with them, but this isn't a radical change in thinking. Most people in the west are fine with Jews in a theoretical whole, but that assumption is because it's framed in a way to confuddle the issue of race. It's changing the group they didn't expect us to change, the Jews themselves! We need to work to change the general Jew populace's mind on importance ranking of race, religion and social group, so that these culturally-devoid globalists no longer have a group to fall back into, since it affects them as well!
I mean, yeah, if you have a problem with Jews as a whole, you're not going to be satisfied with that, but would you rather play nice with some lower class Jews to get at the real bastards who are screwing over nations with lobbying and migrant pushing, or would you prefer to stay isolated, and probably correct, but still a defeated people? Total victory isn't going to happen, you have to accept this compromise of defining the average jew from globalist, or you WILL lose.
>>69742284
Who's worse?
The one who wants to behead You?
Or the one who wants to erase your children?
One is violent now, while the other is on for the long con and using you to fight for them.
>>69741638
King David is described as "ruddy". Ruddy means flush and showing blood in the face. In other words, white.
>>69741489
Jews count themselves as white when it comes to their "privilege" but as minorities when it comes to discussing how whites can be so intolerant towards minorities.
ie, they're both white and non-white, whichever is convenient in a given context.
>>69741489
Jews were already White until they started destroy everything and take over, there was no problem with Jew before they started to screw with the world. Hanukkah was a good next to Christmas
>>69742874
Imagine if the Irish did that. Doesn't that sound ridiculous? That's what the goal needs to be. The trappings of judaism trumping whiteness need to be reversed, and being Jewish no longer making you a 'special' white. It involves encouraging regressives to see it in that framework, discussing jewish privilege, but it also requires us tacitly inviting them into whitehood, even when the leaders don't want it.
Humans are naturally drawn to being socially accepted, and accepting the common Jew as another white people like Germans or English or Italians, in preparation against a common threat in the globalist cultureless will be an important advantage. I personally consider that this attempt to divide the Anglos from Germanic whites as part of a tactic to turn white nationalism against itself instead of in cooperation. We need to counter this at its source, we as white people need to rally ALL the Europeans to the front if our cultures are to survive.
Would you rather we break a few divides held by pride to win the proper war, or we stay divided and fall? Seriously, answer me, they're one foot in the door of whiteness already, why not make them come all the way and HAVE to face our problems? Change the perception of culture and you can win the long game without these oligarchs realizing they've been had! What IS the problem with nationalist jews? They want a land to exterminate mudslimes, why wouldn't you want that? Why WOULDN'T you frame that bloc against the globalists?
I just don't GET this, you guys. This is how you win.
>>69741489
Jew here. We are smarter than that goyim.
We a white when it suits us, we are minorities when it suits us, we are a race when it suits us, we are a religion when it suits us.
You think you are smarter than us?... lol
>>69743256
The one who wants to behead you. The one who wants to erase your children has the long con going.
But here's the question: are both those enemies the same universal problem?
Most muslims support the monstrous actions of terrorists, and they preach it to the common man. But Jews are a western people with western sentiments. There aren't jewish caliphates where all western ideals are destroyed, the oligarchs don't preach to sermons global destruction of the west. THESE are the people you need to change. The Jews that aren't tied up in this oligarchical mess.
Oligarchists don't use their own people to preach the destruction of the white race, they use useful idiots, they disconnect from their own people. And that's how you fight it. By fighting and changing the minds of their homefront to realign with a nationalist west. To stop jumping between Jew and White as if they're mutually exclusive, to mingle and connect with the greater white culture. In a sense, to make Jews white full stop. No jumping back and forth, to make them WANT to be seen as white, to make them embrace it, and defend it with us.
>>69741489
Zionist shill, pls go
>>69741489
Jews consider themselves white when they want to appeal to whites and appear as "civilized conquerors", and poc when they want to appeal to pocs and appear as "oppressed shoah victims". In reality Jews declare themselves as whatever is the most convenient for them.
In the early 20th century Jews were at the very forefront of the Pan-Turkic movement because they considered themselves Turkic. Yet they become Semites when secular zionism is brought up. Hell, look at how they treat the Palestinians, some of their closest ethnic relatives.
The real truth is Jews consider themselves the only proper human beings, and everyone else as goyim, "beasts on two legs" put on earth to serve them.
No matter what, any ethnic Hebrews, or any one else of the "Jewish" religion CANNOT have any meaningful fellowship with any race, white or otherwise, until they completely abandon the Talmudic doctrines. Until then, they will always be hostile even to their "allies" - because they genuinely believe the Lord, their God, has commanded it.
>>69743777
Edward I calling
>>69743777
>Jew here
Prove it.
>>69744286
>Jews consider themselves white when they want to appeal to whites and appear as "civilized conquerors", and poc when they want to appeal to pocs and appear as "oppressed shoah victims". In reality Jews declare themselves as whatever is the most convenient for them.
THEN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THEM AND MAKE THEM EMBRACE WHITE NATIONALISM!
>>69743777
Nope, your white. When blacks talk about stringing whites up, you'll be right next to us swinging from the same branch.
>>69743759
We need them to feel what it feels to be called white, instead of irish, german, or jewish.
>>69743256
I see your point, there are common factors/elements in both, so identifying those and dealing with them first would be the most effective approach.
Back on OP's topic, the best approach is to convince the young jews, more likely to share our values (less religious).
>>69744363
It would be pretty easy desu.
We should let Israel take what is there's and get rid of the tribes of Muhamhead.
It's a mutual cause and the zionists will be happy to tell the world they are white.
>>69743759
>The trappings of judaism trumping whiteness need to be reversed
Think about the Bosniaks - could the trappings of Islam trumping Slavness be reversed? Of course not, and they have more in common with their Yugoslav neighbors than we do with the jews.
Jews have their own internal racial conflicts, but they will always hold together against the goyim. Instead of courting their favour in futility we should be doing the same against them.
>>69744699
And hold them to the standard that other whites are being held to.
Its time they come home to the rest of us and try to make amends.
>>69741489
IGNORE ALL SLIDING THREADS
EU/JUDEA CALLS FOR WHITE GENOCIDE, NO WHERE ON EARTH TO FLEE:
>>>69738171
>>69741489
they already believe to be the chosen ones,
theres no way in hell that they would want to be white.
>>69745186
What you're describing is cuckery. You think fighting a few more wars for the Jews is gonna bring them over to our side? Remember, they are under a divine commandment to destroy and enslave. Throwing more money at them won't change that, same as with Muslims.
Letting Israel have their way is what we HAVE been doing for the past seventy years, and it is NOT WORKING.
Letting them have the Holy Land was a mistake in the first place.
>>69744403
Nah... NAACP, SPLC, Every single black charity, every agent (sports and media) are all run and funded by Jews. The blacks know we stand with them.
>>69745587
Just like Farrakhan and the Islamic blacks.
>>69745521
>Letting them have the Holy Land was a mistake in the first place.
Well then, what is the solution now? You can't undo the past, hindsight is 20/20 but it doesn't change a thing. Israel exists, you can't go back and fix that, but suddenly reversing course and going to war against the concept and state of Israel won't work. Maybe in some future world where the stakes are able to make that work, but the 'throwing off our jewish oppressors' narrative isn't palatable and waiting until the huns are at our gate and people cry out 'oh God /pol/ was right!' as the world burns around us, won't mean a damn thing.
Make Israel fight WITH us, not as a benefactor in OUR wars. Dismantle the divide of our peoples, or you won't be alive for the next battle.
>>69745587
>The blacks know we stand with them.
They knew Frenchmen who stood with them in Haiti, but they still killed them.
Through fear.
You can easely say
"-:Blacks and hispanics attack jews and consider them White, so their anti White rhetoric will also affect jews, thus when they speak "we must kill the Whites" it can easely be seen as anti semitism."
That way they will truly Believe it, and even if they didnt beleive it, they will still use it when anti White sentiments are spoke off, due to their fear of being attacked by blacks, hispanics and other leftist self hating Whites due to that they consider jews to be Whites and thus they and their jewish family WILL be affected.
>>69745521
How is it cuckery when Ameribros and our guys at Steyer sell them some toys to clean the area, after we have come to conclusion that muzzies need to be returned to there holy land.
And how could any of the schekel grabber that have our MSM in hand tempt to use the chance to persuade the lefties to create some happenings for poor arabs and schekel.
This time, we could finaly make the yid our yid, Kiwi, by playing his love for his tribe against his love for schekel, and you know how it ended last time.
They got cursed by there lord.
>>69745886
>Make Israel fight WITH us, not as a benefactor in OUR wars.
Never gonna happen mate. Look at the current ISIS conflict - Israel has barely lifted a finger against a genocidal expansionist caliphate right on their doorstep, because they know us goyim will be there to mop it up. But when someone like Saddam Hussein threatens Israel - America is there too to get rid of them, and they don't have to lift a finger there either. It's only when they want to take clay for themselves that they go to war.
>>69746161
>has barely lifted a finger against a genocidal expansionist caliphate right on their doorstep
Would you call an exterminator for a tribe of roach killing other roaches as long as there are other roaches.
It's the most rational they can do at the moment.
World attention is on muzzies killing muzzies and noone cares for Palestine.
Or all whites could just pretend to convert to judism. Then any attempts at getting rid of us is anti semetic
>>69746411
Easy. You throw the Germans under the bus to save the rest of Europe.
You notice how all of Germany's crimes are spread to be as all of Europe's crimes? Total bullshit.
Yeah, sorry, maybe if I had a strong alliance with Germany I'd do it as a national leader, but its bullshit that the ENTIRE continent of Europe is sticking their neck out for Germans in this and following them around. Its time we realize that Germans are NOT suited for a leadership position in any way. Give that to the Anglo-Americans.
>>69743777
>>69743482
>>69743715
>>69744286
It's pretty simple just start identifying as Jewish even if you aren't. In America, everyone is already cut so it's really difficult to tell the difference. No way nigs are smart enough to know the difference. It will forcibly assimilate Jews into permanent whiteness and keep our fates tethered as they pretty much already are.
Also my other idea and one which I'm already personally carrying out:
>intermarriage
Most Jews are already marrying outside the faith. They have quality DNA, wealth, connections, and many good cultural values. Take the good and leave the bad. We have the numbers to easily outbreed them.
If you guys have ever heard of the Golem of Prague, try to look at it metaphorically. It reflects the greatest fear of the collective Jewish consciousness and therefore their greatest weakness, which is having their own weapons turned against them.
>>69741489
All moralizing and semantics aside, Jewishness is a religious label, not a racial one. Jews are believers in Judaism. Their skin is white, their faith is Jewish.
>>69746885
we dont need to throw any White brother under the bus.
You just need to call the leftist anti White for anti semites for mass importing muslims and state that they are neo nazis.
>>69747618
I completely forgot about that, leftists do hate Israel.
You could just say that Europe has open arms for Jews and Jews were unjustly thrown out, and we wont tolerate intolerance of our minorities from the Muslims.
The problem is that we also need Jews to be on our side after it, so it isn't as fool proof as becoming Jewish and erasing the holocaust blame off whites and focusing it only on germans. ffs, England, Spain, Portugal, France... They all hid and helped Jews escape
>>69745974
>Blacks and hispanics attack jews and consider them White
This is the crux of the matter. All the jewish scheming is going to come back to bite them on the ass in a major way, as it always has throughout history...
Eventually they ALWAYS end up getting kicked out of, or enslaved in, every country they've ever inhabited.
>Jews want to destroy the white race
>They're succeeding
>Europe becomes massive Islamic caliphate
>US completely overrun by niggers and spics
>Who's left to save the jews?
No one.
But then, they've always been suicidal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_option
So go ahead, kikes, continue with your idiotic plan. You're going to get yourselves wiped out permanently too.
jews are genetically half middle-eastern and half european
its like calling mulattoes white
>>69741489
We already consider ourselves white.
>>69741489
>They're genetically from the region where Slavs and Russians began
We're genetically from the levant or east mediterranean, we cluster with turks, kurds, armenians, greeks and italians.
>>69741638
Hebrews have never been brown, we're white and we've always been white. Traditionally jews don't identify with brown people at all and even italians for example would be considered brown compared to us, and it would be looked down on for a jew to marry an italian because of their dark skin. Only some modern leftist jews have started to identify as brown or non-white.
Americans and a lot of other westerners don't know anything about the middle east and assume anybody from the middle east must look like osama binladen, coastal levantine people can be as white as western or eastern europeans, the arabian peninsula is on the other side of the middle east. Arabs are invaders of the levant and they've always described jews as being fairer and ruddy compared to them
>>69743299
This guy knows whats up, jews were always recognised as fair, ruddy and light eyed in the ancient world. Rufism has a high incidence in the jewish gene pool and it's not european in origin. Red hair is common in the levant
>>69741489
>The only way you get all this anti-Nationalism mess to stop once and for all is that you forcibly change the discussion and consider Jews to be part of the White Race
Give up Israel then. No? Not going to do that? Then go to fucking Israel and be in your own state, and let everyone else be in their own ethno-state, and stop being a hypocrite about it.
>>69749685
don't generalize Jews faggot
>>69741489
nationalist attempts at intellectualism are so hilarious.
>>69742549
No, you will never win.
Annything co-opted by Jews become sick and twisted
Jews refuse to identify as White because they weren't allowed in country clubs decades ago.
This is actually a reason they make.
Quite common response during the White Student Unions fiasco on kikebook
>>69748360
There's no comparison with mulattos and ashkenazi, Mulatto means half black, black people have no relation to people of the levant like the lebanese, coastal syrians, armenians. whatsoever. Which is where jews are from.
To say ashkenazim are like mulatto's is to say they all ashkenazim have one middle eastern parent, one european parent. You can't compare mulattos to the jewish genetic situation at all. We would have european ancestors interspersed throughout our mother and fathers sides, but in genetics your mtdna (mother's gene lineage) and ydna (father's gene lineage) always has one origin, so regardless of however many european or middle eastern ancestors you have your genetic phenotype is either one or the other. Jews have a genetic phenotype that clusters with races that share our mediterranean and middle eastern origin
>>69749846
>wet fisting noises
>>>/trash/
>>69749899
>oikophobic noises
Read some books, Australia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR4MvD9IEAE
http://civitas.org.uk/content/files/cs49-8.pdf
> http://civitas.org.uk/content/files/cs49-8.pdf
>>69750294
>>69750862
yes, like I clearly explained we cluster most closely with kurds, turks, syrians, palestinians and lebanese, reflecting our middle eastern origins. We are clustered way from europeans, but most closely to Greeks and Italians because they are closest to the levant and are related to us, not because of any intermarriage with them.
Look how far away we are from Russians and Germans despite people in this thread reflecting a popular american and western opinion that we descend from slavic or other european converts. The reason why ashkenazim look so similar to europeans is more because jews have always looked like that then european conversion and intermarriage.
Westerner's particularly americans haven't got a clue about the middle east and think anyone from there must be brown like a saudi no matter what part they're from. They're not aware of the distance and distinction between the arabian peninsula and the levant.
You even hear people say that Jesus was an arab and must have looked like osama binladen because he was an anceint jew. Disgusting ignorance. Arabs and the arabic language are foreign to the levant, they invaded with the spread of islam, long after Jesus' time. Muslims descend from those people for the larger part. Before the muslims invaded arabs were a just a minority migrant population in the levant. If you look at the religions and ethnic groups that predate islam and don't intermarry with outsiders, they don't look like muslims, they look like jews
>>69741489
how are you going to make kikes believe they're white?
>>69752685
That's the easy part. The real question is how the fuck do they expect anyone ELSE to believe it?
>>69752942
>That's the easy part.
well how, then?
>>69741489
I already consider myself white and I'm an ashkenazi Russian Jew
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