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Refuge Crisis: Nigel Farage & Mark Steyn vs Louise Arbour
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Nigel Farage and Mark Steyn debated a feminist and Jew in Toronto last night regarding whether or not all Western countries should essentially adopt an open borders policy and take in as many refugees as possible.

The audience appeared to be very left-wing and "progressive" at first with 73% of the audience supported the motion prior to the debate.

But based Farage and high-energy Steyn managed to red-pill by the end and they won the debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeGTeFT8AHY
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>>69733378

The motion.
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>>69733993

Canada's opinions prior to the debate.
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>>69734055
Canada's opinions after Farage and Steyn uncucked Canada's shit. Con = Farage/Steyn side.
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>>69733378
God Farage is wonderful, but Steyn is on another level. He slays that fucking faggot Simon Schama.
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>>69733378
Bump
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>>69733378
soon
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>>69733378
Fucking Toronto
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Tredo on suicide watch?
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>>69733378
>Nigel Farage and Mark Steyn presented as "far right"
controlled opposition much
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Bookmarked to watch later.
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>>69733378
That was great
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>>69733378
>37:30 onwards

Fuckin' destroyed
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>simon schama

His art documentaries on PBS are alright, at least.
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>>69733378

This debate was amazing. I am actually surprised that more of Mark Steyn's stuff hasn't made its way onto /pol/ before.
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>>69737038
I've no idea whether that girl was a for or against the motion, to be honest. She was constantly shaking her head in disgust at whatever Farage and Steyn said yet she went into a hardcore clapping frenzy when Steyn started talking about Western nations falling to Muslim immigration.
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>>69736746

I'm only at 19:00 don't spoil
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>>69737459

They are supposed to clap when rebuttle time is up
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>>69737459

When did she start clapping? I want to see that. I thought she was just a liberal who finally was being forced to face the piss in the cereal.
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>>69733378
>240p
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>>69737805

I'm sorry you can't see Nigel Farage in 4k IMAX HD.
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>>69737748

1:22:10
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>>69733378
What happened to the days when political discussion could be had from comfy chairs? Why these metal torture devices now?
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Mark Steyn? I've seen this dude on Hannity and he always makes good points. I'd like to learn more about him.
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>>69737996

The era of good debates has been over for decades.

Not that they were ever actually good, but comfy anyway.
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>>69737996

The left decided free speech was bad and only one narrative was allowed, so began shouting at people.

Sofas began to feel out of place.
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>>69734103
>>69733993
>>69734055
Toronto needs to be nuked. Jesus fucking Christ. At least they woke up after the debate.
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>>69736746
Holy fuck Mark and Nige went in hard.
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>>69733378
there is always one of them for "muh refugees"
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>>69733378

>The audience appeared to be very left-wing and "progressive"

That's Toronto. Liberal hellhole. Brainwashed by CBC for years
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>>69738392
>>69737996
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>>69737934

It's starts slow but it's worth it, I'm about 40:00 in right now
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>>69738560
ALWAYS RIGHT
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>>69733378

>simon scharma
>cannot stand behind a podium

Trying his hardest to play the room.
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>>69738555

Nige tried to remain relatively tactful and ended up looking pretty moderate relative to Steyn. Steyn usually incorporates a lot of humor and wit into his political commentaries so it's a bit weird to see him in a completely formal debate but he demolished the opponents nonetheless. He wrote a very good book on the demographic problems Europe will face with Muslim immigration and how America is unique in the sense that it's fair less likely to topple to Islam. It's called "America Alone".
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Can't Barrage The Farage.
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>>69733378
It is so strange how rightwingers now debate simply by stating obvious ideas that a five-year-old could come up with.

>you should check facts about people before letting them into your country

It's is now a "right-wing" opinion to believe that countries' borders should be semi-permeable membranes.
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I fucking love when they say "People have always been wary of immigrants" as if the Native Americans weren't wiped the fuck out by a wave of immigrants.
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>123 boys for every girl
I presume that meant 123:100?
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>when I'm talking about the kind of sex that I want to have, I ain't into three-year-old girls but, ah...

Guess which soundbite is going to be used.
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>>69738995

I was actually expecting this more or less. Nige is a major figure for the Leave campaign and has always been very careful about not being explicitly anti-Islamic. The UK is too cucked for that to not damage the Leave campaign and his top priority is getting out of the EU. I bet he would have loved to unload on those dumb cunts over Rotherham and grooming crime in the UK but had to restrain himself.
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Marks opening dude. Holy shit that was good

I actually clapped
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>>69739058
They used examples from the news when migrants were raping European girls/teenagers, then the other side was like "well, the debate is about refugees not rape" fucking retards
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>>69738560

Goddamnit. EveryTime
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>>69739395
>http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/29/british-muslims-europe-remain-brexit
I wonder if this was able to sway any undecideds into voting Leave.
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Holy shit Mark's opening 6 minutes were fucking glorious. This guy has a gift.
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>>69738753
body language, hand gesturing, that lisp. Also sounds like a fag.
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>>69739651
He is a fag though.
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>>69739639
6 minutes of absolute demolition

Then the lispy marble mouth Jew gets up and spews emotional rhetoric about "MUH atrocities"
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>Mark's opening
IT'S ANOTHER SHOAH
OH MY GOD
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>>69738296
https://youtu.be/hpMCXLmbd2I
This is 3 hours long but he talks about all sorts of things relevant to western decline, and is worth watching, as is anything else on YouTube but he's mostly a writer.
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CAN'T
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>>69739695
thank you for the confirmation
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>>69739100
> The 120 million goyim!

Believing that many people were in north America then.
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>>69739435
We're Americans.
Clapping is our default state.
Do you mean you started clapping harder?
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>>69736746
>these guys are obsessed with sex whats up with that/????///??
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Brilliant how they shut up those leftists cracking jokes.
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>>69733378
Farage is the hero this world needs but doesn't deserve
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>>69737038

What about this guy?
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These poll results are hilarious

http://poll.munkdebates.com/
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>>69740357

The Left are notorious for these sorts of petty comments. It's the same way they incessantly correct grammar, look for ways in which you're being discriminatory and try to negate your argument based on other unrelated opinions you happen to hold. They'll do absolutely anything to remain in the comfortable bubble of delusion and avoid addressing depressing facts.
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>>69733378
Nothing makes me happier these days than seeing normies swallowing red pills. Is this really the best the left can do? If it is, the pendulum is going to swing at breakneck speed when the media stops gaslighting the population.
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>>69741006
This is all in Anne Coulters book "How to talk to a liberal (if you must)" from 2004

Its amazing how little changes.
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>>69739976
Good to see Schama is a hypocrite too.
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http://www.munkdebates.com/debates/global-refugee-crisis
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>>69740717
Indeed. This is how you do it. Call them femenists when it's convienent
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>>69741743

It's fucking bizarre that Schama, as a gay man, would openly advocate the admittance of hundreds of thousands of Muslim men into Europe. Does he not realize that the vast majority of these people are going to absolutely despise him and wish him dead because of his sexuality?
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>>69741945
He's a jew, he can always run to Israel goy.
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>>69741817

The post-debate poll that I posted was the online poll. The poll that you posted was from the audience's poll. It's still encouraging to know that the minds of some Liberals can still be penetrated by reason, fact and logic.
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>>69741743
>â–¶it never ends
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>>69741945
Plenty of people hate gays anyway, it's not like muslims are the only ones.
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>>69741945
he wants to suck on dat brown cawk
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>>69740779
CAPTION: BOMBS/RAPES INTERNALLY
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>>69741945
and the fact he happens to be a gay jew as well
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>>69739976
The Video Source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsBO2q7NHGM
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>>69742170

Yes but if you've spent you're entire life in a country where homosexuals are publicly hung by the neck for being accused of having sex with a member of the same sex in private, you're unlikely to be completely tolerant of gay men holding hands and kissing in the street, are you? I find this pretty repulsive, too, but I have no particularly desire to physically harm them.
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>>69742565

I guess Schama would say that he doesn't think muzzies would assault him in the street because he smells fruity.

That's probably half his point, "well I put up with discrimination every day, so why would I want to put that on arabs n shit?"
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>>69733378
did she say undercucking???
around 11:10s?
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>>69733378
I like how the first thing Schama does when it's his turn to talk is claim that it's somehow counter culture to want the rapefugees, and then moves on to essentially claim that people who don't want to replace their populous with muds are big mean white supremacists.
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>>69739831
I thought you were kidding.
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>>69733378
Steyn is great, he should get more praise here.

So keen for this, I hope this is good
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>>69742826

Leftists, especially old ones, still think they are raging against the machine. They never realized when the world changed and they became the thing the establishment. Their ideas are old and useless now. Steyn and Farrage didn't even need to do anything other than state obvious truths to annihilate two supposed intellectual leaders of the leftist camp. Its almost sad desu senpai. Same reason why Trump has been winning while the establishment and media has been unable to stop him. They just don't have anything useful to interject anymore.
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>>69743141
I've actually exhausted his YouTube material, and read quite a few articles. I'm left with the sense that he focuses on a very narrow part of current political debate, when he is obviously capable of speaking intelligently about much more. He's a journalist by profession, and not a historian or literary critic, so I'll grant that he has to focus his attention on make a living. But I think he could me a very successful general orator if he could break out beyond his 2nd tier media jobs. He is talented enough for politics--if not actual elected office, then full-time strategics and punditry.
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>>69733378
Pretty long familia, is it worth it?
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>>69744004
Yes if you aren't a pleb tier redditor. Starts out a little slow but builds around 40 minutes I think.
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>>69744004
Worth. Skip opening statements if you want to get right into it.
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>>69733993
>"Give us your tired, your poor..."

I really wish people would stop using this quote as though it's a fundamental principle of America. It was written by a jew and plastered on a statute given to us by a Frenchman in 1903. It's a nice little pithy saying, but nothing more.
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>>69744004
Yes.
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>>69744004

Yes. It is old /pol/ worthy. This is the kind of stuff that makes this board good. The underlying truths that make our memes magic.
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>>69744004

I watched the entire debate and enjoyed it all. You can always just fast-forward to Steyn and Farage's points but it's satisfying to see them dismantle the arguments of their opponents. It's not a frustrating watch; Farage/Steyn and clearly winning throughout.
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>>69736746
Holy fuck, I just got to that part. There was no fucking mercy.
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>>69733378
Thanks for sharing, OP. I always love hearing Farage debate. He really is incredibly skilled, sharp, and entertaining. His two debates against Nick Clegg regarding Brexit are great.
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>>69744004
Steyn and Farage are worth it, I`m convinced Farage is a genius.
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>>69733378

you guys know mark steyn is jewish right?

he was one of the first to really dig into the white demographic crisis like 10 years ago however
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>All that criticism about Catholics
Sounds pretty correct. Home Rule is Rome Rule.
>Yellow peril
How are those demographics looking, Canada?
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>>69744565
He's a genetic Jew to a small degree. Almost no one really cares about that. He's not even Jewish according to the Nuremberg Laws. So if someone wants to be holier than the Pope about it, that's their problem.
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>>69744565
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>>69744565
>you guys know mark steyn is jewish right?

He was baptized Catholic. According to him: "the last Jewish female in my line was one of my paternal great-grandmothers and that both my grandmothers were Catholic."

Since we know that per the tenets of the religion that Judiasm is only passed down via the mother's side, he's really not jewish at all.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110714160006/http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=ZmVlNTEwOThkMDU0Y2I3OTEzMTI4MTdjMjI3YjBjYmU
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>>69744565

He seems to identify more with the interests of Whites/Christians than he does Jews, desu.
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>>69744796
>>69744902
>>69744999

i agree. the main point is that unlike tribal jews, he is against mass unchecked immigration into the west.

or is he just against muslim takeover the of the west.

immigration is the number one way to tell if a jew is tribal or not
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mark steyn is pretty high energy will have to watch more of his stuff
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farage is probably in the top 3 of the most based politicans in the eu
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>read and enjoyed mark steyn's material
>read his stuff with canadian voice
>has british academic accent
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>>69739017
Hive mind , fuck
I was just thinking about this statue

Farage is the only thing that makes me not dread the future
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>>69738560
Well, he even bragged in the debate about how he is jewish and how they are not similar to christianity.

obviously the feel more connected to muslims, because both those riligions reject Jesus.
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>>69733378
Man at about 53:30

>Louise Arbour: "Don't you understand goyim? Defending yourself is what islam wants you to do!"

Why are the memes becoming real?
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>>69733378
Thanks anon for the post.
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>>69736746
Holy shit.
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conservacucks are so scared of MOSS-lems all they do is cry rape...

women are not complaining bro. they want more manly men who are not flabby white males.

You're not gonna win this debate by bringing up women's #1 fantasy constantly.

They love it.
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>>69745403
i looked him up before i watched the debate, also the post i made was before the debate as well.I saw the names and immediately looked them up. It was no surprise
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Hurrah we Aussies got a mention
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>sees 73% agree think : stupid canacucks
>watch whole thing
>79% disagree after

*BOISTEROUS FARAGE LAUGHTER*
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>>69740357
>I'm not much of a feminist but I draw the line at raping 3 year olds

Holy fuck BTFO

BTFo BTFO Its over sit down go home you're pushing up the daisys!
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>>69745978

Farage must reference the, "Australian style points system", when talking about immigration about five times a day. Seriously.
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>>69745911
Fuck off do we

Consider that it's propaganda designed to weaken your resolve that degenerate females are pushed to the fore in the media and public consciousness
It's yet more psychological warfare.
Or did all the ad agencies all at once mysteriously start depicting wf/bm as a coincidence?
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>>69745978
Are Nige loves you lot. Loves your immigration system.
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>>69733378
can't watch beyond the first ten minutes when does it get good?
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farage goes full nuclear at 59:20
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>>69746975
About 30 mins in they blow them out of the water
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>>69745911
this is an interesting point
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>>69746922
How can Nige be PM?

UKIP got millions of votes but received only a couple of seats. All I know is more seats = win
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>>69746872
That's the only way stupid people can wrap their head around a concept. It had to be repeated over and over again until they think it's a normative position. The majority of people are incapable of evaluating an idea on its merits.
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>>69747091
I have to hand it to the yanks they have completely subverted Canada to such a degree that they are no longer distinguishable from an American.
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>>69747193

It's because of the electoral system we have. It's not proportional representation; it's first-past-the-post. So the UK is divided into hundreds of different little constituencies and political parties assign a representative to each constituency and then the people that live in that constituency will all vote and whoever wins a constituency election will get a seat in parliament. UKIP are the third biggest party in Britain behind the two mainstream parties (Labour and Conservative) which are your equivalent of Republican and Democrat. UKIP got 4,000,000 votes which equates to about 15% of the population. Conservative, who won the most seats, got something like 35%. The Conservatives aren't total cucks like Labour but they aren't as hard on immigration as UKIP and about half of their party wants the UK to remain in the EU which would mean we can do nothing about mass immigration.
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>>69736746
That was fucking beautiful.

I still can't get over how ridiculous their argument was though. "LOL YOU DIDN'T SUPPORT WIMMINZ RITES BEFORE BUT NOW YOU'RE DEFENDING THEM AGAINST RAPE?!"
Yes, because apparently if you think microaggressions and western rape culture are bullshit, that also means you must be in favor of women getting raped.

These are considered legitimate arguments by the left.
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>>69747424
15% of the electorate *
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>>69747274
Jokes oh you kiwi I'm a bong working in America
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>>69747749
HA thought you were Australia
>Calling him a kiwi should rustle his jimmies!
>Check flag after post
Top kek things worked out in the end
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>>69747274
>>69747749
>>69747849
>Kiwi flag so close to Aussie flag nobody can tell the difference
>And they could've changed it.
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>>69737748

Check her wiki, she's a jew.
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>>69733378

I watched a bit and it seemed they kept saying "it's not about islam." Too weak to call out the kebab.
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>>69744161
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>>69748135
>changing your flag to a fucking leaf
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>>69748216
>Darwin quote
>200 years later Europe and Caucasians are getting bred out and their homes destroyed by Africans and Arabs
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>>69748135
To what again? At least they're not
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF

Aussies and New Zealand are brothers its good they resemble each other rather then being a BASTARD also
>A fucking fern
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>>69748185
One needs to play the game to win the game.
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>>69748351

Cirlce of life goy ; ^) you wouldn't question darwin would you?

-Proffessor Golbergstein
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>>69748412
I was surprised that no one even called out the neighboring arab states that have taken no responsibility in taking in refugees.
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That girl making faces while Steyn is talking needs a dose of migrant rape.
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>>69737996
Foucault would've demanded a good chair
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>feminist and a Jew
I think you mean Jew and a Jew. Arbour won the Jewish achievement award for women in 2001 and regularly travels to Israeli to see family.
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>>69748351

Darwin didn't foresee the white race committing mass suicide. I mean, think about it. This was a man who was around during the height of colonialism and the british empire. The entire world was subjugated by europeans.

He didn't know we would just to roll over and die like this.
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i began watching because nigel farage was in it. mark steyn, however, made me stay. he is an extremely high energy debater and crushed the libshit faggot niggers.
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>>69748610
Economic migrants are what they were talking about for the most part, they are not refugees at all for the most part, but get treated as such because Merkel hates Europeans.
Farage did heavily criticise them for their treatment towards middle eastern Christians and how they were more deserving of refuge than the muslims.
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>>69748374
to>>69747274

Thanks for staying kiwibro. You have the best national anthem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrNNAA6_yAI
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>>69747749
Never called you a Yank and i never called anons with an American flag a Yank either straighten those eyes out after you straighten your teeth.
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>>69748882
Steyn was pretty good, but I think Farage debated the best, I liked how he used their own game on them.
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>>69748268
>>69748374
They were favouring
>A
>Fucking
>Fern
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>>69749100
You know why some kiwis wear a kilt? Is it because they are proud of the scots heritage? Why no its because the sheep can hear the zipper
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>>69749224
I don't know...does that section of the fern count as a leaf...anyone a naturalist?
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>>69749309
>le sheep maymay
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The problem with Toronto is that it's full of niggers and arabs
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>>69749412
I'm from Toronto btw. For some reason I get a US flag tho
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>>69749394
Yes by all means
>le crooked teeth
is not a maymay

New Zealand eat your snickers
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>>69749389
It looked like a white feather i refused to be colonised by the French.
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>>69749502
that you have crooked eyes as well as teeth is a new observation. Maybe Brits will need bendy beds now they grow so wonky.
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>>69749634
Maybe I just never assumed you'd talk shit about your brother Canada. New data in you need to eat your snickers because you become a right diva when you're hungry
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>>69749439
They occasionally confuse TO for Detroit. Honestly I can understand why.
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>>69734103
winning the debate doesn't mean their minds actually changed, unfortunately.
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>>69733993
That are willing to be free, not enrich/bomb/change america...shesh
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>>69749833
We should just bully Canada until they come right in the head imo.
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it's hilarious trying to watch these two detach terrorism and violence from current eu immigration policy. they literally say the same things the nra does after every mass shooting: we need to simmer down, not use such apocalyptic rhetoric, and see things in the light of day, uncolored by anger etc etc. yet this very rhetorical tactic deployed by the nra is routinely lambasted by the left as a means of deflection away from dealing with difficult truths
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>>69733378
>pseudo-"leftists" who are actually liberals advocating the importation of a reactionary Islamic fifth-column into society so they can show how virtuous they are

This is so frustrating. Even mild social democracy is ruined by association with these idiots.
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>>69750118
Honestly I think its too far gone now they elected fucking Zoolander

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtQq0T3ExLs
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>240p
What is this the fucking 1990s

Give me another video
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>>69744999
Has the jew-bashing faction of /pol/ ever come up with any good reason why they supposedly run an anti-west agenda? It's clear that a large part of the intelligentsia is comprised of jews, be that because of genetic advantage and/or nepotism, but then the criticism should be more directed toward academia as a whole, which traditionally leans toward the left. The alternatives, such as an actual jewish conspiracy, seem far-fetched. In that light, it makes no sense to point to people's ancestry as an argument.
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>>69748706
and a buttplug
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>>69746971
Yeh the entire right wing in old blighty are infatuated with based Tonez and his policies.

Makes sense as he's a refugee from the UK himself.

>Cooooo---eeeeeeee - White man come home, you can be safe from cultural marxism here in Australia.
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>>69750292
>he didn't even watch youtube in 144p

Those were the days
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>>69750447

If you are seriously interested I would check out this article

> http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/30/the-intellectual-case-for-trump-i-why-the-white-nationalist-support/

And this one

> https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/03/02/anti-gentilism-or-pro-globalism/

The non-conspiracy answer seems to be something related to jews being a distinct out-group that have a disproportionate ability to platform their views due because of their high %'s in literature, mass media, law, etc.
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>>69750711
>MFW when the safe schools Marxist indoctrination program was shot down by the right wing parliamentarians.
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>>69750447

I've never understood the logic in the Jewish conspiracy theories, either. Given that the vast majority of Muslims despise Jews and would be content if they were to be wiped off the face of the Earth, what would Jews achieve by plotting to have the West over-run by the Muslim-world? Brb making the conscious decision to put nuclear weapons in the hands of our worst enemies. Brb replacing our allies with our ideological rivals. It makes literally zero sense.

Conservative Jews are typically very redpilled on Islam and often warn Europe/North-America that Western values and Islamic culture are incompatible; I've seen this very often in the "Palestine vs Israel Q&A" YouTube videos.

Most of the conspiracy theories are a result of paranoia and a confirmation bias.
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>>69750292
http://munkdebates.com/livestream
It's the exact same thing even here. There probably doesn't exist a non-potato version.
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>>69750447
>Has the jew-bashing faction of /pol/ ever come up with any good reason why they supposedly run an anti-west agenda?

Yes but you're clearly not about to be convinced now
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>>69750711
;_; I miss Tones
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>>69750990
Secular Jews and Israeli Jews are not necessarily the same thing. You're arguing on the basis that all Jews have the same values and the same level of global influence. It's not a conspiracy theory that academia, media/entertainment and finance/banking is vastly dominated by Jews and they're the ones nuking an entire generation of useful idiots with Marxist horse shit like Critical Theory and PC.

George Soros is alleged to have sold out his own kind during the Holocaust. Just because a Jew is hurting other Jews doesn't mean that Jews don't have a disproportionate amount of power and influence over worldwide affairs and the rearing of our future generations via subversion and obfuscation of real facts. This has always been the case in history.
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>>69750447
Not every jew is a bad person per se, I just think it's in the nature of jews to seek power and superiority.
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>>69750830

>
The non-conspiracy answer seems to be something related to jews being a distinct out-group that have a disproportionate ability to platform their views due because of their high %'s in literature, mass media, law, etc.

Jewish people, particularly those living in Israel, are very aware of the fact they comprise a small minority of the global population. Many of them, like Muslims, are brought up to only marry and have children with other Jews; regardless of whether they are actually religious of not. This is largely out of a self-preservation attempt.

If White people only made up about 1% of the population and we only really had one country, do you not think White people would have a much larger incentive to get into positions of power compared to if they comprise 30/40/50% of the world's population and their existence is not threatened? I know I would be spending all my time trying to get a platform in media/politics/finance/academia. And I would encourage my family to do the same.
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>>69733378
>not even two minutes in she mentions the holohoax
Oh boy, dis gon b gud.
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That woman infuriates me. The west owes them nothing. How does taking them in benefit Europe at all?
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>>69751475
It isn't supposed to benefit Europe, dumb goy.
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>>69751475
I don't even know why breath is wasted in debating these cockroaches.
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Atta lad Nigel.
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Louise Arbour is a real boomer cunt.
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>>69733378
Does this Simon dude really believe what he is saying?
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>>69751954
>>69751475

What are you two doing up at 04:30, anyway?
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>>69733378
Thanks for posting m8

Just got through the intros from Farage and Steyne and was incredibly impressed. Very well said and reasoned
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>>69752067
I woke up an hour ago, how about you?
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>>69752067
>
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>>69733378
>Simon Schama

He wrote a good book on the French revolution. Didn't know he was such a cuck, shame.
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>>69751475
That's how I frame the argument every time I talk about this sort of stuff with liberals.

Whether its open borders for mexicans or letting in tons of migrants into europe or diversity in general, I always ask the same question:
>How does this benefit us?

And they can never give me an actual response. In their minds, diversity is a priori good, end of discussion. The "why" never even crossed their minds. So they brainfart when you ask why diversity is good. The only answer I've ever gotten is "more ethnic restaurants"

So there you have it. Western nations should destroy their demographics because more mexican and paki restaurants.
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>hurr durr these guys are obsessed with sex
>how sad haha XD

fucking jews
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>>69752044
Apparently he is some art critic or some shit. I'm not sure why he is even their. Maybe he is their mandatory liberal Jew.
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>>69733378
Do we have the numbers for who changed there mind after the debate yet???
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>>69752461

https://www.munkdebates.com/debates/Global-Refugee-Crisis

The online poll results were even more lopsided if you haven't seen those yet
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Do either Farage or Steyn talk about the Pew Research Center survey on Muslim beliefs? Because in my mind that is some of the most damning indictment of Islam I have ever seen, because it completely obliterates this liberal notion that the majority of Muslims are just like us.
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"Why don't other Arab states take these people in"
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>>69751809
debates aren't meant to persuade the opponent, they're meant to persuade the audience, which evidently has worked very well in this instance
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>Quebecois cuck debating for more refugees
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Why is this debate taking place in Canada anyway?
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>>69753711
Our lovely overlords want to bring in another 10k refugees
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>>69733378
bump.

i love stein and farage i'm about to watch this.
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>>69733378
holy shit Mark Steyn, just got serious. fuck this is good.
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>A lot of rape happens after European countries brought in refugees
>NOT ALL REFUGEE ARE RAPISTS

This leftist jew is fucking retarded.
Since when NOT ALL _____ is a valid argument for everything.
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>>69754126
It's totally valid, ya bigot. Now go play russian roulette, theres only one bullet after all
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>>69754074
You just got to the gang rape part?
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>>69754539
yeah, amazing.
Arbour's face "oh, shit. he read my work and is using it against me."
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>>69733378
MARK
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TOGETHER, THEY WILL MAKE CANADA GREAT AGAIN@
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>>69755124
Conrad is the man. His history of Canada is pretty redpilled. Shits on natives. No white guilt bullshit.
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>>69754943

>I've been found out
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39:00 for some serious non-consensual fikifiki
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>Steyn calling out Quebec separatism against Arbour
Fucking brilliant.
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haha, yeah that's the look

>My face hearing simon talk
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>>69752207
every

fucking

time
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>>69751239
>why do they want multiculturalism
Because muh 6 gorrilion.
Literally.
You hear about it everyday,becomes part of your identity,religion,culture and personal life,being treated as a special snowflake because of it,told you need to suffer and cry.

You're taught to identify with the suffering of your ancestors and become it,
>never
>forget

What does that logically lead in some's brain?
That homogenous society = incoming ovens for minorities

Therefore we "need" multicultural societies ,we ALL can be THE minority in a country.

So NO ONE is a majority.

t. personal insight
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>>69756164
fucking hitler ruined it for everyone
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This chick was really obvious in her reactions the whole time. Just keep an eye on her, lefty af
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>>69739017
>>69745400
Hey, I took this picture and uploaded it to a NatSoc thread.

I've seen it like 20 times already, awesome.
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>>69756271
>fucking hitler ruined it for everyone
People all believe and have been educated that

homogenous = bad
diversity? = GOOD

EU policy and liberal disease.
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>>69756294
This bitch just made faces during the whole event. She should be sent to the Middle East for a "live" redpilling
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>>69756294
idk, there was one point where she was applauding enthusiastically to Steyn's point about migrant rights trumping women's rights. Maybe she was one of the ones whose mind was changed.

On this issue, I think that's the best way to win the favor of liberals: frame it as a women's issue and a gay's issue. That the majority of muslim men want women to be property and want gays to be executed.
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>You sure love to talk about how great diversity is
>I'd like you to tell me exactly which parts of Syrian, Somalian, etc. cultures are so good and enriching for us.

This kills the leftie
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>>69757017
>cultures are so good and enriching for us.
THE FOOD BROOO

THINK OF THE LITTLE ETHNIC FAST FOOD SHOPS
OR THE....OPEN AIR.. ETHNIC SHOPS.

THEY BRING AND MAKE ETHNIC FOOD

JUST THINK OF THE FOOD BRO

t. personal encounter with a canadian
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>>69753711
munk debates put on good shows

they had hitchens debate tony blair.

they jsut do good debates, this was one of them
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>>69757017
>>I'd like you to tell me exactly which parts of Syrian, Somalian, etc. cultures are so good and enriching for us.

Usually the only thing people come up with is "the food."
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>>69754126
>Y correlates with X
>NOT ALL X FALL ALONG THE LINE OF BEST FIT
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>>69754126
>>NOT ALL REFUGEE ARE RAPISTS
what have non-raping refugees done to stop raping refugees?

nothing

also,legally,"refugees" are not refugees
check the legal international definition out
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Wait, they fucking lost?

Am i retarded or they didnt show if they changed opinion?

Did the fags vote for cons at the end or not?
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>>69749412
The funny thing is, they are already getting into the whole pack mentality. Rape when?
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>>69739058
I know, I don't understand how being realistic suddenly got confused with being right wing
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>>69757860
Before the debate it was 77% Pro 23%Con

After the debate it was 16% Pro 84% Con
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>>69748351
just wait. it will only keep building conflict until an extermination does begin.
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>1min into first talk
>NEVER AGAIN
>HOLOCAUST

Cringed....

>burdern sharing
>does not list up Israel as a neighbouring country of Syria

>lelelel Trump maymay

>ISIS wants you to believe Muslims want to behead you infidels
>ISIS doesn't want to infiltrate Europe
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>>69758512
I think you do understand
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>>69758647
When did they show it?
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>>69758647
Incorrect.

After the debate it was 55% Pro, 45% Con.

Con still won, because they gained 22%, but not nearly by the margin you cited.

http://munkdebates.com/debates/Global-Refugee-Crisis
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>>69750835
>mfw it's still being implemented by the cuck premier of Victoria.
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>>69744161
People think if you write it down somewhere it becomes true. The EU is crippled by things someone wrote down on pieces of paper.
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Why isn't Farage the prime minister?
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>>69759053

>Can't say i'm surprised.....
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>>69740357
>jew makes a joke out of islamic rape and torturous genital mutilation

schama got destroyed by steyn

pre-dated by this Hitch-Slap, 1:10 onward:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4yS08N0xeU
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>>69755312
I'm buying it this week. Love that man. Fuck the over-lord class for trying to bury him
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>>69740357
>children even 3 year old girls are raped
>WEWOWEE YOU ARE SO OBSESSED WITH SEX LOL

The fucking fuck?
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>>69759572
Aye he's a fucking great Orator. Shame he's not an all around alpha as Trump though and the media was successful in damning him.

Also fucking idiots who vote labour over here. My hometown of Rotherham STILL voted labour at the last election. You may have heard of there recently..
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>>69758949
Online vote
>http://munkdebates.com/livestream

You know what to do /pol/
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>>69759721
God bless the Queenslander, and pray we depose this labour shill we have as a premier
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That guy has such memetic face
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>>69752284
>And they can never give me an actual response
>The only answer I've ever gotten is "more ethnic restaurants"

I've asked the same question as well. I usually get "different people from different cultures bring in different ideas, and it'll make us successful"

So I reply with "..But, how do you make an already successful homogeneous society, more successful? The West was already advancing at a very rapid rate way before immigrants from other cultures started coming in. So again, I ask, what benefits do migrants bring to an already successful nation, and if they bring in different ideas, why aren't their own countries booming with those ideas that apparently will make us successful?"

>mfw the only thing they can come up with is food and music, and how it unites people
>mfw they can't come up with anything else
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>>69760719
Fucking hell I can't imagine living there and not being upset over the shit that happened there. If that happened where I live there would be death up the wazoo.
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>>69733378
answer: THE Jipsies
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>>69761587
Indeed. It still even happens now. Taxi drivers were recently forced to put CCTV in their cabs, and 200+ pakis came out and protested it outside the town hall lol..

People STILL vote labour here though, again and again because it's what their parents voted, and their parents parents etc.

Some of those girls were not only gang raped, but tortured too. Two fathers separately tracked down where their daughters were being taken to be gangraped. The police attended, and arrested the fathers..
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>>69763435
>Two fathers separately tracked down where their daughters were being taken to be gangraped. The police attended, and arrested the fathers..
Wait, you mean to tell me that the police were gangbangers as well ad the mudshits? Is it just the mudshits that do the child rape or is it the other "refugees" that do it also.
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>>69763708
Well the ones we know about are the Pakis. It's not just in Rotherham either. There were/are gangs in cities all over the UK. It's utterly reprehensible.

Rotherham council even tried to ban protests about the rapes.
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I actually own Schama's "History of Britain" and really liked it, although I always knew he was a Jewish fag. It is just obvious.

The fact that he is alos bent on the destruction of the West just makes me furious. These people are traitors and should be banished or shot. They are literally destroying civilization. Fucking parasite.
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>in their hysteria the left has confused immigrants, illegal immigrants, migrants, economic migrants and refugees together
Thanks to be honest family, this makes things a lot easier.
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