You must pick one to lead your country
>>69732223
Make me, shitbird.
>>69732223
I'm registered as republican this time around.
Bernie, he might die soon enough.
>>69732293
You seem upset
>>69732223
Option #3, faggot.
There is no chance a Republican will get in the White House this election because their party is too split. If Donald Trump is the nominee, then Ted Cruz and Kasich supporters won't vote for him in the general, and same thing if Cruz or Kasich were to be the nominee. So these two candidates are who we have to choose from. #BERNIE2016
>imblying
>>69732223
Both of them suck. Pretty awful, senile old man with cuck-fantasies or war criminal cuck.
There is a 100% chance that Hillary is our next president to be honest.
My face when to be honest family.
Hillary. I pay 130 bucks more under he tax plan as opposed to the 7.5k more I'd pay under Bernie.
>>69732223
lets have a vote
http://strawpoll.me/7263278
http://strawpoll.me/7263278
http://strawpoll.me/7263278
>>69732427
The Ballot Box, the Jury Box and, when those two fail, the BULLET box. Damn right anon, looks like we're gonna have to race war after all.
>>69733477
Hillary=WWIII with Russia
Bernie=Detente with Russia
He might take 7.5k more, but at least you'll be alive enough to spend what remains.
>>69733477
But yo don't have to pay for insurance and college tuition, so you would be saving money even though you would pay more in taxes.
>>69734518
>on, so you would be saving mone
This is assume the person who doesnt spend a lot of money on college is able to get a job with that degree where they make decent money.
Liberals and sjw's are notorious for getting degrees that have 0 practical value and 0 job opportunities.
>>69734644
>is is assum
is assuming*
>>69734518
Welfare states only work with sealed borders. If you have welfare but an unsecured border well... Europe, just saying. Nothing attracts the dindus like free shit.
It seems, in the end, the mudslimes won. Europe is too cucked to stand up for itself, a continent devoid of balls. It's a tragedy, hopefully we'll learn from it and not go the way of Eurocuck.
Nah
>>69732223
Hilary actually has work experience
>>69735089
Not the greatest resume when you fuck up even that
Hillary, she won't change anything. We'll just go back to the Bush days with more social justice but I'll be able to keep living in peace without an economic crash. She's obviously the worst candidate in the race but she's still my #3 choice behind Trump and McAfee.
Bernie would personally affect me and I would have to go overseas on a temporary work contract.
>>69735271
At least it is a resume as opposed to being 70 years old and doing nothing not even introducing a bill.
>>69732223
Hillary, because she's a girl. Time to have a woman in the white house.
Bernie. My country would be dank as hell
>>69732223
Hillary, at least she's not as ready to shut down the coal industry and ban fracking like Bernie is.
>>69735578
Enjoy paying 70% increased taxes.
>>69732223
Sweet Triples, OP.
>>69735513
Yeah, it sure is working for germany.
>>69736562
generalize more plox
>>69735767
I'll be so fucking high I won't give a fuck FEEL THE BERN
>>69732352
Gtfo u faggot, this doesn't cornern you
>>69732223
Would rather burn it to the ground before I'd follow these cucks.
>>69736727
Fucking cuck
>>69736977
You mad bro, sounds like you could use a primo bernie joint and feel the love
>>69732293
/thread
>>69732223
>a modern western feminist
>who mishandled governmental email communications
>who is backed by soros
>all corporate media
>all cable companies
>and giant investment banking corporations
vs
>a guy who seeks to establish a socially fair system
>and get people educated
>and at least bring a modicum of western solidarity to the US
>and also has some retarded views on race
Hmmm let me think.
>>69734518
I've already graduated and I don't have a $7500 a year health plan.
>>69737983
Contrary to popular belief, things _can_ get worse and just because you have good intentions doesn't mean you have good ideas.
>>69738815
>a guy who has helped his constituency out of difficult times
VS
>a woman who mishandled government emails
I wonder who has the better ideas.
>a guy who wants to achieve a basic decent existence for the populace
VS
>a woman with 3rd wave feminist ideas and backed by some of the most inhumane companies which are causing massive economic problems for america and the world, and also most importantly backed by a guy who is a persona non grata in the UK thanks to efforts of trying to ruin the economy for his own financial gain
I wonder which one of the two has the better intentions.
>>69737983
>fair
Well, yeah, if you redefine the rules so that lazy people that never plan for the future get to take wealth from the people who earned it, I guess it's technically fair.
Won't last though, you stupid faggots. As soon as the taxes for Obamacare hit, there's gonna be a massive shift to the right in the taxpayer base.
Protip: If your labor is worth $17/hr and the government mandates it costs $23/hr to employ you (unemployment insurance, min wage, soc sec taxes your employer pays, etc), you will be forever unemployed.
>>69739673
>shitty option #1
>shitty option #2
Why not neither?
>>69739883
A
Even lazy people do not deserve to die on the streets. Plus it's mostly not simply lazy people but people who have actually fallen on hard times.
If you think that solidarity is unnecessary you've regressed further on the evolutionary ladder than most eukaryotic lifeforms.
B
but your labor is only worth that little because your company says it is.
And if they let you go the company will not be able to get that work done at all, so they will have to either cut back on their fucking profit margin or go under.
>>69739967
>implying being an idiot about race and being "a socialist" for trying to achiever what non third world countries already have in terms of income equality
>is as bad as being literally funded by the real life equivalent of the illuminati
I pick bernie. He won't be able to pass any crazy socialist reforms, but he'll probably be able to pass voting and election reform, because republicans will see that as a compromise.
I'd honestly go with shillary over berncuck.
After all these decades of red cuckoldry, it's time for a new course.
>>69740466
>being this pedantic and this much of a pseudo-intellectual on the internet
>>69732223
Bernie
>>69732223
Shillary.
You know what a jew like Bernie as a a leader could guilt trip germany into doing? Holy fuck...
Shillary isn't jewish, right?
>>69732223
Better dead than red.
>>69740466
Except the lazy are supposed to die in the streets, any other solution is LITERAL slavery. You cannot morally force a person/persons to provide for a stranger. People who have 'fallen on hard times' in the US are typically too lazy to maintain a job, to proud to work the jobs they can get, or have been priced out of the labor market because the value of their labor is too close to the gibsmedat cutoff, where it makes more sense to sit at home and get paid for nothing or work under the table.
Your labor is worth what the company can sell it for, not what the company decides it is worth. If my employer decided my labor was worth $500/hr and priced my production based on that, they wouldn't be able to sell what I make. Typical economically illiterate Bernfag.
>>69740771
>>69739967
>>69739883
George Soros has been declared an economic war criminal in Thailand.
He is a persona non grata in Belarus.
He was fined in france for breaking trade rules.
He is a de facto persona non grata in the UK.
He is behind the "human rights" organizations that helped the migrants into the EU with guidebooks.
He is advocating for The EU to accept migrants and provide them with money.
He embodies everything pol hates and a lot of what is wrong with the world in general.
So when he and his puppet investment banking organizations are the major supporters behind a candidate, i have no idea how you could possibly be so fucking retarded as to consider that candidate not the worst option EVER.
>>69741299
>any other solution is LITERAL slavery.
You do realize that human civilization could only rise because of cooperation and solidarity. That "take everything you can get your fingers on and show no concern for others or rules" is the kind of pseudocapitalist bullshit that sparked the housing and loan crisis in 2008.
Your labor is worth what the company execs decide is acceptable to give you out of the revenue they make.
The prices of goods on the market do not reflect their actual value, it reflects what colluding companies and interests groups set as the price.
>>69734518
This only applies to those who aren't yet in college, dingus
>>69734518
>paying money for school like a chump when you can just google everything
>>69741749
but now nationalism = racism. how are you supposed to love your country and fellow countrymen when you're stigmatized for trying?
>>69741749
>cooperation, I'll lie here and get drunk, you work and support us both.
Yeah, faggot, only battered housewives are that stupid. Only modern society allows laziness, human civilization rose by forcing them to work or letting them die. The only other option for them was begging, which means that the people who supported them were allowed to CHOOSE to do that, rather than being forced to.
Your conspiracy theory about corporations actually making massive profit off minimum wage laborers and not being willing to pass it on is a joke. Typical Bernfag shit.
Hillary and Bernie are both shit, for different reasons.
Hillary is literally the worst candidate in the race
daily reminder voting for any establishment candidate makes you a cuck
>>69743333
>>cooperation, I'll lie here and get drunk, you work and support us both.
>implying actual welfare works like that.
>implying that bernie is not also for reforming the welfare system in general so that doesn't happen.
>Your conspiracy theory about corporations actually making massive profit off minimum wage laborers and not being willing to pass it on is a joke.
What.
Can you seriously be this retarded?
I mean can you seriously be this fucking bluepilled about how the economy works?
Jesus H Fucking Christ man.
Do you actually think corporations... most of them headed by the jewish global financial elite would pay their employees fair wages, and not collude with other corporations to keep prices high and wages low?
What the actual fucking fuck.
>>69732223
Clinton for sure. Bernie is way too far left. Hillary has some lingering empathy for the right
>>69740997
No, she's a WASP.
>>69743333
I mean seriously how do you think this works? If your company makes extra profit, would you just give it all fairly to all your employees?
Who would you give more to?
Yourself, or some guy who can be replaced at any time if he demands more money?
The wages in your third world shithole are literally subhuman.
And your economy has slave labor in the form of prison industry.
Also people can be reformed from being unproductive shits.
But you of course can't possibly understand that because you also probably think that prisons should be there to punish people not to reform them in a way that they can be beneficial to society.
You are paying more out of your tax money to private companies running prisons per inmate
than you are to the next generation who is trying to get an education.
I absolutely fail to see how you can possibly be this deluded.
Also, the same labor is only worth so little in america because the corporations keep it that way.
You'd get a lot more money western european countries with similar GDPs for the same amount of work.
That means something is wrong with YOUR system.
The only ones that are limited in how much they can profit off of others labor are the ones at the very fucking top.
The positions which YOU ALREADY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REACH. Because you are not born into those circles of influence.
Regular CEOs and high and upper middle class people are just as rich over here as they are back in america.
>>69740720
Bernie would go into executive order overdrive.
>>69744302
>empathy
if you mean that she is funded and controlled by the people who are also mostly controlling the "right", then yes.
see above
>>69741749
>>69739673
She is funded by the embodiment of everything pol hates.
If you think she's a good candidate you're out of your goddamn mind.
>>69744302
On the contrary, Bernie would at least crash and burn the inevitable decline so that it is easier to rebuild. But regardless, the US would never be the same
>>69734518
I wish this stupid fucking meme would die already. Berniefags are the worst
>>69745003
>work
>somehow free shit
?
>>69732293
underated
>>69744593
Well if you want the ultimatum of Jewish control in the White House then Bernie's your guy.
Hillary is at best another Bill Clinton, at worst another Obama. Bernie is the most leftist candidate in US history. Republicans in Congress will frustrate him into a flurry of executive orders. And when that happens, deported illegals are coming back, drug lords will be put back on the streets, and refugees will hit US soil in the hundreds of thousands.
>>69745695
Bernie is less pro israel than any other candidate.
>>69745771
BWAAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>69745865
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-israel-and-the-palestinians/
he's a jew but not a supporter of the jewish global warmongering elite
>>69738628
This.... I pay 280 a month for insurance for a family of 4. I make 23.83 an hour and live very comfortably because Kansas' cost of living is very good.
Even after paying my insurance premiums every month and hitting the deductible, I still save $3140 a year compared to Bernies plan.
>>69746106
Just fuck off.
>>69746164
why because you would rather vote for someone who would support the jews militarily?
>>69745771
Explain this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2cCdgwgoM
>>69732223
John MacAffee
>>69746323
I like Mike Kaspersky a little better. Anything is better than Greg MSE or Anthony Malwarebytes though.
>>69746106
Looks more like he's pandering to mainstream Democrats for votes.
>>69744428
>>69743654
Oh look, they act astonished that I don't understand their argument, provide no evidence, use buzzwords, claim vast conspiracy, then move the goalposts or change the subject. Shocker.
Again, if Tommy doesn't feel like working and you force Ted, Jenny, and Paul to pay Tommy's way, that is literal slavery. This is not up for debate, it's obvious. Well, I guess Ted, Jenny and Paul do have one choice that isn't forced labor, they can join Tommy in the welfare line.
Again, if a factory worker can make one widget per hour, the company can only sell it for a max of $20 dollars, and it costs the company $24 to have the worker make the widget due to government mandate, that fucker is now unemployed. Not up for debate, can't argue your way around it. The company can raise prices if and only if $3/hour superstar China decides not to make widgets. Guess what, China makes widgets.
Bernfag and Shillary are both cancer.
Bernie
I want to see Clinton fail
This is her last chance at her life goal
She must fail before even receiving the nomination, the ultimate denial
I'm convinced she'll snap she's already getting angry at Sanders
>>69746267
not watching that video but he probably said something pro israel. that doesn't change the fact that any of the other candidates have advocated military action to support israel.
>>69746545
again you fucking idiot
they semm the gadgets for the same price in germany
and they pay the people here more
sometimes the same fucking companies.
it's just because you americans are such cucks for the big corporate cock that you can be mistreated indefinitely.
>>69732223
If it's Hillary or Bernie, it's gonna be Bernie. If I don't get to be proud of my country with Trump, I'll at least get to be a NEET forever on Berniebux
bernie stands for genuine change, is feared by both wall st and the deep state, and seems to be a normal bloke who believes in what he says.....
the other thing (who incidentally already has the presidential race rigged\won) is a corporate puppet, establishment tool who will deliver nothing to the american people other than sjw bromides and market fundamentalist mantras
>>69732223
None of the above. I'd rather have no president than either of those two pieces of shit.
>>69746657
tl;dw Bernie was clearly siding with the Israelis and doing Jewish shilling in the video, silencing white Democrats sympathetic to Hamas and Palestine.
It's pretty damn obvious Bernie would use our military to defend Israel. Every candidate would. So, given that Democrats are likely to win this election, you pick the Jewiest, most far left one of the two. Why? I'm guessing you're either a covert Bernie shill or just uninformed about his insane policies.
>>69732223
Clinton
>>69747381
>sympathetic to Hamas
well he was damn right about silencing those people at least because hamas is fucking terrorists.
>uninformed about his insane policies.
might be, but then again i'm informed about hillary.
See above. Voting in literally satan couldn't do much worse than hillary.
And trump doesn't want to do anything actually good for the nation apart from maybe economic things.
No one else has a chance.
Bernie has shown to not be a complete shit with economics, although that remains my biggest fear should he win.
And his policies making the US less of a third world shithole wouldn't be too bad.
Plus I'm hoping that maybe congress won't let him pass things that would relate to his more... regressive progressive views. race for example.
Sanders on the basis that he might get dirty money out of politics. Clinton would be more of the status quo. No thanks.
Plus Sanders would likely get little done and another candidate would get elected.
Both are letting in refugees. Both are bringing in illegals.
Clinton is more neocon whereas Sanders seems more of an isolationist.
The worst part of a Sanders presidency is that Reddit would win.
>>69732223
Jokes on you, I don't vote.
>>69747850
Imagine the shit we'd have to deal with internet-wide if Sanders won?
I'd take vacation for a week and rent a cabin in the woods
>>69737983
>>who mishandled governmental email communications
"It's called the Pantsuit Patdown. Happens when you get an email but you don't know who sent it. Dude in the Bronx got one last year. Opened it up and clicked a link in it. Next thing you know, someone from the State Department showed up at his front door and sodomized him with a rolled up copy of IRS Form 1040. Schedule D for capital gains and losses and everything was up in this dude. Then they dressed him up like a unicorn and made him dance around Central Park, tellin' everybody he was a pretty princess. Ain't nobody deserve to get done like that."
>>69732223
I pick the white line in the middle. I would rather have a sentient line of cocaine run this country than either one of these cock wranglers.
Clinton any day over that wackjob pothead
>>69747762
>And his policies making the US less of a third world shithole wouldn't be too bad.
You are the biggest fucktard. Every one of his immigration policies favor bringing MORE of the third world HERE.
>Bring back deported illegals
>Refugee resettlement, as many as possible
>Free drug-related offenders from prison
And cuckservatives in Congress (especially trying to shake off the "racist" stigma that a Trump nomination would bring) are going to go right along with any racial justice reform Bernie passes.
>>69747950
If the superdelegates actually do not fuck over Sanders by some miracle, we can't afford to lose.
Gas the cucks.
Meme war now.
Bernie sanders is a welfare megatron. He will only encourage welfare behavior. I will choose Clinton anyday.
>>69732223
move to joinville, brazil. faggot
Sanders would be right wing so ill pick him.
>>69748626
>Socialism
>Right-wing
>>69748626
Good thing you dumb Finns don't get to vote then
>>69732223
Sanders because we have a lower chance of getting into more idiotic wars.
>>69748696
>socialsm
more like mild social democracy
>>69748696
I really dont think hes going to nationalize the economy.
>>69747950
>>69747850
Think about it this way:
If he's very shit, someone new, who isn't under the thumb of the financial elite could get voted in thanks to voting reforms and him not being pushed onto people by the media.
If he isn't shit, he'll do america some good.
I'd rather tolerate some faggotry in congress about race and attempts at idiotic foreign policy than either trupm's "let's alienate the entire fucking planet" approach or hillary's "let's do whatever brings most profit to our investment banker overlords" approach.
>>69748280
>Every one of his immigration policies
Well... he might not have the best policies, but you know... there won't be too many refugees from the middle east coming to america.
And his policies on tighter border controls and selective immigration(brain drain) aren't bad.
>Bring back deported illegals
this is not actually a thing.
>Free drug-related offenders from prison
widely misquoted.
minor offenders. as in "you had weed on you you go to prison"
>Refugee resettlement, as many as possible
see above. plus no one said 'as many as possible'
>>69748835
Nigga sanders is going to encourage BLM shit and people asking for more gubment handouts
>>69748735
the finnish economy is more successful that your niggerillion dollar debt economy
the finnish also don't have that many problems with minorities.
>>69748966
people will be asking and that's entirely what they will vote for sanders but from what i've seen he isn't actually going to give a lot of handouts.
Most of it would go to affordable education and to prop up a workable fucking minimum wage with subsidies.
>>69748995
Damn son. Finland is 5 mn homogenous population. A lab experiment compared to USA. Try not to act like you were born yesterday.
>>69746657
You're creating a separate bullshit argument, that because one company has an excessive profit margin and doesn't pay as much to their US workers as they do their Euro counterparts, that therefore all companies can magically sell all minimum wage laborer's work for more than they currently do, except they won't because muh conspiracy.
This is obviously logically flawed. I presented an analogy that proves that minimum wage isn't tenable for all employees, and you present an anecdote about a single company doing something you wish was illegal.
>>69732937
Don't be an ass.
Bernie supporters are the ones saying they won't vote for Hillary in the general election.
>>69748836
He basically was an apologist for Castro in one of the debates. He probably won't get anything done though but he's far from right wing.
>>69732427
Last number of posts is how many lists youve just been added to.
>>69748280
>Free drug-related offenders from prison
If they behaved well in prison, and have no connections to organized crime and no other violent offenses, good. All drugs should be legal. A great deal of organized crime exists in the US because of the drug trade, which we could easily stop if we wanted to by legalizing the damn drugs.
It was the same with Prohibition, but somehow people think marijuana or hard drugs are somehow much worse than alcohol.
no cunt runs my country
>>69745695
Bernie isn't the candidate that is the farthest left in American history, He wouldn't even be the president that is the farthest left.
FDR
Harry Truman
Dwight D Eisenhower Even in terms of marginal brackets
>>69732223
Sanders
>>69749367
>left-wing is measured by how high taxes are
>>69749176
so? the point still stands.
you should do what is best for civilized people and the rest will have to adapt to it or face jailtime.
>>69749223
...
The huge profit margin in the US is not 'one company'
EVERY company in germany can afford to pay their workers a wage which they can survive on.
And germany isn't more rich than the US.
In other words the US companies could do that too. It's just that the market might have to be changed to be less fucking retarded and permissive towards monopolist shittery and collusion.
You didn't prove anything with your analogy, because your analogy would require that NO ONE can sell widgets for 24$ and still pay their employees a fair minimum wage.
but that's not true, because germany succeeds at it.
>>69749468
I said that in terms of one of the president, not all 3
>>69749468
>>69749367
Truman literally gave free handouts to europe.
MASSIVE ones.
And in turn ended up creating the strongest economic partners for the US in world history.
>>69749539
But then we look at your country, a failed corrupt socialist place and we have second thoughts
>>69748113
A man can dream, a man can dream
>>69749673
Which one germany or hungary?
Germany? We haven't failed. Yet. The migrant crisis might change that sooner or later. But if people could stop trying to blame merkel for things she never said, and focus on the restrictive policies she's trying to implement we might have a chance.
Hungary? We were failing because we couldn't get away from the influence of the fuckers who got rich during the time of pseudo-socialism.
Since 2010 that changed and we are free from the illuminati IMF debt, working hours have been made more humane, the economy is growing though we were in the same situation greece was in, we have a new constitution, the teachers whose wages have been raised are able to protest for even more money, we were the first to pull up a fence against non registering migrants and the only country to uphold european refugee law, banks are forced to redesign predatory loan arrangements families trying to build homes get massive government handouts, individual civil liberties (apart from anti terror surveillance sadly) are the highest in the region.
>>69750448
>pseudo-socialism you guys
>>69732223
My guy
>>69749539
Germany is a different economic case, and I wouldn't buy what they've got right now. I don't want to have to import 50 million savage muslims to prop up the US economy.
Also German minimum wage is 8.5 euros, not exactly 'living wage'
>>69751247
Well yea. it wasn't really communism or socialism. The people close to the party got rich and they were the ones fucking us up again and again until 2010.
>>69751781
>Also German minimum wage is 8.5 euros, not exactly 'living wage'
What do you mean?
Until a year ago that was 11.5$ which you could easily live on.
>>69732223
Ill.take a neocon over a commie rat kike
