Fact
>>69731276
98th percentile and I dont consider myself part of any political group
>>69731276
Can you explain what "Four Political Theory" is? I know of the concept of Dasein from Heidegger but I haven't heard that term before.
>>69731276
>neoreactionary
oh boy
Libertarians should be in 70s though.
>>69731616
Some bullshit magic invented by Dugin that doesn't exist.
>>69731848
OK. I thought it meant crafting your own political ideology.
My IQ is above 140 but I don't belong to any of these designations.
>blacks are liberal
>110-120 IQ
Debunked.
>>69731740
>Libertarians should be in 70s though.
You wut? If you even believe in a correlation between IQ and Political Ideology you should probably be neutered.
Libertarian here and with just one of those quick 20 question IQ tests I am 126. I should take a real one though
>>69731276
You must bee one of the Single Issue Voters.
You're referring to statistical-likely generalities, which aren't actually facts.
>>69732085
Havent read about it but I guess its comparable to Nietzsches ubermensch
Standing above all
>>69732085
>OK. I thought it meant crafting your own political ideology.
not rly possible, unless you make up some fantasyland positions, every ideology for our current world is covered
>>69731276
i have iq of 148 what the fuck is dasein
>>69732107
Single issue: gibs.
>>69732590
in the "fourth political theory" sense, i know that faggot Heidegger otherwise
>>69732085
>My IQ is above 140
Yeah, you and just about every other person on 4chan bud.
>>69732590
Read Heidegger pleb.
>>69732366
Ok.
>>69732507
It is possible but usually is syncretic in nature. I subscribe to hardline Islamofascism though.
>>69732725
Ok.
>>69732776
what the fuck is heideggerian dasein in the political sense? well?
>>69731616
Aleksandr Dugin: Liberalism, Communism, Fascism, and the Fourth Political Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QrnJKf-hhE
First Political Theory
• Liberalism
• Individualism
• Subject: the individual
Second Political Theory
• Marxism (Communism)
• Collectivism
• Subject: class
Third Political Theory
• Fascism
• Statism/Ethnicism
• Subject: the state (Italian Fascism) or race (German National Socialism)
Fourth Political Theory
• Beyond the other three political theories from their shared roots in Modernity, the New Era, and the belief in progress in one way or another
• Proposes to overcome the above by taking a step in another direction, toward a different paradigm of understanding society, history, man, and so on
• Subject: Beyond the individual, class, race, or the nation-state
• Subject: Dasein, neither the individual, nor the collective, nor the class, nor state, nor race
• Dasein: A certain rather specific presence in the world, which is yet to know the presence of someone. It is the root of human existence. Before we learn that we are people, part of a country, members of society, rich or poor, belong to a certain nation, ethnic group, culture, or religion, there must be something prior to this.
• Dasein: Authentic existence
• Dasein: Being-in-the-world, finds different representations in different cultures. Even the roots of Dasein differ.
• Dasein: Multipolar world and the dialogue of civilizations in which every element of this ensemble—this mosaic of the world—has the opportunity to develop autonomously, to structure its evaluative, social, political, and philosophical systems within the framework of regionalizing philosophical geography.
>>69733063
I see where he's going with this but this sounds like mental masturbation.
>>69733017
No idea.
99.9% of /pol/ won't be able to read Heidegger, because of linguistic complexity of his works. Another 0.01% that could possibly pull off getting through the language barrier won't understand him at all. There's no shame in that because he's hard for trained philosophy scholars. It's much better to read Leo Strauss' introduction to Heidegger to get the gist of his works.
That being said I have no idea how it translates to politics, Dugin mentioned above developed that term and I haven't read his book on it, but despite his meme followers he's certainly a dangerously intelligent man.
>>69733631
why should i read a nazi?
i've read celine and i've planned to read hamsun but neither were originally nazi (hamsun was like 70 by the time hitler joined NSDAP).
>>69733944
>ad hominem the post
>>69733944
>why should I read a nazi
May Allah forgive you and take your life swiftly.
>>69733999
nothing ad hominem there. national socialism was pleb-tier, why should i read a nazi? I literary gave examples of two nazi-associated writers, the best of the lot imho, that i *have* read or planned to read, but neither were part of the movment.
>>69733245
Sounds like post-modernism - the political edition desu
This is always the problem with existencialists and so with creators of new values for a new time, like Nietzsche. They never give concrete answers, suggestions and propositions, then back out with: "lawl, I told ya to do it yerself, duuude!"
People who brag about (or generalize others based on) their IQ are losers.
>>69733063
this is the political ideology equivalent of third eye indigo child shit, thinking you're more enlightened than you are
>>69734187
Ad hominem means that you are attacking the author rather than the argument. You called Heidegger a Nazi, but you never called out any of his arguments. Read it or don't man.
>>69733063
>Fourth Political Theory
This whole description you just gave doesn't even describe anything resembling a political theory. It is literally nonsensical, masturbatory BS.
>>69733944
First off, Heidegger was really a modern-day Plato, he wanted an autocrat, another "philosopher king". There's strong monarchist sentiment in his works, not a nazi one even though his dislike for Jews was genuine. If you want to read a real fascist/nazi philosopher try Giovanni Gentile or early works of Emile Cioran. Evola is a meme to academics obviously.
Secondly, you should read him for the same reason you should read any other intelligent human being. But as I said if you have hard time with linguistic complexity you might find Strauss' books more user friendly.
>>69731276
139 IQ and I consider myself a neoreactionary. Seems legit.
>>69732725
>TFW I posted my actual IQ results (143) and people on /b/ just called me autistic.
>>69733063
So it's essentially nothing but trying to figure out what the fuck it is.
The whole idea that you can interpret someone's intelligence based only on their political affiliations is stupid. There's a number of things that play into it, including a lot of personal reason, and even genetic reasons why people ally more with a certain type.
If you look at simple left/right affiliations by university degree, you notice that humanities and social science graduates are heavily left biased, but engineering, business, economics grads tend to be right biased.
>>69734725
You are indeed extremely autustic if you think IQ means anything.
>>69734725
Actually results as in a photo of the results from the psychiatrist that administered the test.
>>69734647
We need a prophet/messiah king, not a philosopher king.
>>69731276
>muh IQ
In one day you could achieve an IQ increase of 40 points just be doing the tests over and over.
Intelligence is impossible to quantify, and is completely relative.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is not Intelligent
>>69734682
>neoreactionary
>high IQ
>implying
Sure pal. whatever you say. Now go back to the retard hole.
>>69735152
>In one day you could achieve an IQ increase of 40 points just be doing the tests over and over.
hahahahha
No you can't, that's the whole point of the tests, they are supposed to measure fundamental ability which cannot be significantly improved.
>>69735640
Yes you can, try it
Anyone know what Geoliberal or Distributionist mean?
>>69734369
Yeah but analytics and materialists are literally autists without any sense of empathy, morals or human emotion trying to come up with a system to deal with human society.
I havnt met one marxist yet that dosnt live by the creed of moral relativism.
Anyone can give a definition of what is the fouth political theory without being a cndescending retard?
>>69734748
Welcome to existentialism
>>69731276
135 here consevaterian
>>69736369
I can't find anything concrete about it on the internet.
>>69736369
well from what
>>69733063
said it looks like a kind of anarchistic, marxist ideocracy.
Could work with Buddhism i suppose.
Looks a bit obfuscated desu
>>69731276
>if your smart you have to be like me!11!1
stopped reading there
kill yourself faggot
Where's Ashkenazi Jew on that list?
>>69731276
Sources please.
Its too easy to dismiss if you don't provide RAW data and procedure used.
>>69735992
Geoliberal is not an established term but it has been defined by one professor of economics, Nicolaus Tideman. If you know what liberalism is and what geolibertarianism is then you have an idea what it is. It focuses on the individual (liberalism) but sees broad ownership of the land (geo) as ideal.
Nicolaus Tideman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Tideman
A Geoliberal Theory of Global Justice
http://www.ulb.ac.be/soco/macrofaq/silvaplana/papers/NTideman.rtf
Distributionist on the other hand has been around for decades. It can be thought of as potentially what a ideal Catholic country would look like, besides wanting a Catholic monarchy with a Catholicism as the state religion. Nearly the same thing as geoliberaism and geolibertarianism in terms of economics. That broad ownership of capital ought to be distributed as practical as possible. The biggest difference with geoliberalism and distributionism is the social policy. Distributionist tend to be more conservative and emphasize the community, although not an anti-individualist collectivism.
Distributism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism
DISTRIBUTISM (From reddit's /r/ModelUSGov/)
http://modeldistributists.dudaone.com
What separates these ideologies from the likes of communism is that there is no mass redistribution of wealth or capital via force. They understand that not everybody will own capital or land so these ideals are not an absolute.
>>69733063
>Beyond the other three political theories from their shared roots in Modernity, the New Era, and the belief in progress in one way or another
What? Vague as anything.
>Proposes to overcome the above by taking a step in another direction, toward a different paradigm of understanding society, history, man, and so on
So it doesn't actually propose the new paradigm?
>Subject: Beyond the individual, class, race, or the nation-state
Globalism.
>• Subject: Dasein, neither the individual, nor the collective, nor the class, nor state, nor race
More stupid way of saying globalism.
>Dasein: A certain rather specific presence in the world, which is yet to know the presence of someone. It is the root of human existence. Before we learn that we are people, part of a country, members of society, rich or poor, belong to a certain nation, ethnic group, culture, or religion, there must be something prior to this.
Exceedingly poor rip off of Buddhism.
>• Dasein: Authentic existence
What?
>• Dasein: Being-in-the-world, finds different representations in different cultures. Even the roots of Dasein differ.
Basic anthropology and cultural relativity.
>• Dasein: Multipolar world and the dialogue of civilizations in which every element of this ensemble—this mosaic of the world—has the opportunity to develop autonomously, to structure its evaluative, social, political, and philosophical systems within the framework of regionalizing philosophical geography.
Utterly meaningless word vomit.
>>69737141
Doesn't show up. They control all of them from the shadows.
>>69731276
>dasein
>>69737337
So. What's it gonna be then? How do we fix the world?
>>69737437
Ja, bin da. Was gibt's?
>>69731616
fedora for I'm not voting
>>69737370
>they
who do you think you're talking to, al'queem
I have absolutely no idea what my IQ is, and I don't even know why I would bother finding out at this point. In the real world, even technical skills don't mean as much as soft/interpersonal skills. Emotional intelligence is more valuable to modern society than any other kind.
>>69736954
>anarchistic, marxist ideocracy.
It has nothing to do with Marxism. It's against Marxism (Second Political Theory) and it's class warfare.
Anarchist? Only in the international sense. By that I mean that there is no global "constitution" that defines what is good government. It's not necessarily anti-United Nations with it's international standards but that a people knows better how to govern themselves than any nation or international organization.
What liberalism, Marxism and Fascism/National Socialism all have in common is their insistence with exporting their ideology to other nations. They all feel threatened by other ideologies. Think Cold War, US vs Soviet Union.
How a people govern themselves depends on their genetics, their culture, their resources, or lack thereof, their history, etc. Some people may feel they need a more authoritarian government. That is okay, but under a liberal understanding a it is the duty of a liberal nation to bring democracy and freedom to such a country.
Consider the following quotation.
"[A] constitution which is made for all nations is made for none: it is a pure abstraction, a school exercise whose purpose is to exercise the mind in accordance with a hypothetical ideal, and which ought to be addressed to Man, in the imaginary places which he inhabits....
What is a constitution? Is it not the solution to the following problem: to find the laws that are fitting for a particular nation, given its population, its customs, its religion, its geographical situation, its political relations, its wealth, and its good and bad qualities?"
From Considérations sur la France (1797):
Joseph de Maistre
Is this the new low hanging fruit shitpost? BTW IQ means nothing, especially when you're burdened by crippling autism.
>>69737941
IQ tests inductive reasoning or pattern recognition, nothing more
The people who say it means "nothing" though are very mistaken. So as to not spill my yarmulke I'll stop there
>>69733245
>>69734538
>>69734748
>>69736954
The theory is meant to underlie a multi-polar world. It reduces to the idea that different peoples thrive in different systems. This is a relativistic position. The challenge is to formalize a theory that is not relativistic, but that allows for relativistic outcomes that allow the various branches of humanity to develop according to their own unique natures.
It's a very simple situation, but if you try to think about it yourself, you'll see how it's hard to form a unifying theory that is also implicitly relativistic.
>>69731276
Oh boy this sure is a retarded thread!
>>69738144
It doesn't mean 'nothing,' but logical/mathematical intelligence means fuck-all in the modern economy. It can get you started, but if you want to get anywhere you need emotional and interpersonal intelligence. This is why autism is such a problem, it creates a genetic underclass.
>>69733063
>All of these words without saying anything at all
is this next level fedora tipping?
>>69738268
Current research has challenged that idea that there are "kinds" of intelligence. If you are good at math, you tend to be good at verbal reasoning too. Most of the myths about specialized intelligence, and cultural explanations for disparate scores has been delegitimized.
>>69737731
A member of the masterrace, probably. But:
>mfw my people control the world and I am left out
>>69737337
>>69738301
Note: I copied key points from the video linked. Those points are not meant to be read without watching the video. They were presented because I knew some people wasn't going to watch the video and thus be left ignorant. It turns out it made things worst by giving people a incomplete understanding of what Fourth Political Theory is.
Aleksandr Dugin: Liberalism, Communism, Fascism, and the Fourth Political Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QrnJKf-hhE
>>69738268
See this is why I didn't want to spill my yarmulke. It has nothing to do with math or logic. It's pattern recognition or inductive reasoning aptitude. Science and mathematical principles are founded on deductive reason. Our brain learns through induction, which is why IQ matters.
>>69737489
physiocracy
>>69731276
Confirmed for being ~130
And i see my self as conservative
>>69738566
But in the video he still doesn't express more than that people, nations and individuals, cultures, anyone, should have the right to a self-determined, original living. And it won't happen anyway. Especially in the last years I have seen hhow big government, big corporations and even single but powerful global players, Soros again, can subvert, impede and manipulate just that. As it's always been. Basing a political proposition like that is naive. And it reminded me of the talk in just that years 2012 and 2013, before Ukraine and Crimea and IS, when Russia was hoping for a multi polar world order, but didn't get it, so the US and Russia fought it out in proxy wars again.
>>69735185
>being too impulsive to read through Moldbug
>>69732834
>Ok.
>low iq detected
>>69731276
127 iq and i didn't know what was distributionism
and it fit partialy my view(add to that reactionary)
>>69738194
Kinda sounds like Moldbug's Neocameralism, Except Moldbug's comes at it from a reactionary PoV.
>>69733063
Well watched about half of it. Guy's just a Russian neocon, complete with pseudointellectual pomp and warmongering.
For the record, the "problem of the enlightenment" only exists in the heads of people with emotional problems, or who are looking for an excuse for their anti-modern political agenda.
The current problems in industrial societies are almost all the product of corruption and self-dealing, at all levels of society. But the tendency to blame reason when the tide turns and people become unreasonable is just dumb.
>>69739274
If a north American made that picture, his definition of a conservative will probably be different from yours. Conservatism in Europe has a harder edge, and is more explicitly right wing, and traditionalist than in North America.
134, in two in separate tests. Socialist.
I'm unemployed and I watch anime.
>>69741322
>unemployed socialist
WOW, WHAT A SHOCKER
>>69741322
>Socialist.
>I'm unemployed and I watch anime.
Interesting.
>>69741322
>socialist
>unemployed
>watches anime
>>69741382
>>69741418
Has pol become a hive mind or has Tay returned from the void?
>>69741446
>Implying that description wouldn't fit half of the people here.
>>69741509
>People have the same opinion
>>hivemind
You don't know what that word means.
>>69733063
Well Dasein really isn't a political theory but rather the idea of ones own being in the world. The whole point of being authentic is to recognize dasein and from that define yourself.
>>69741322
>Unemployed anime watching socialist
>>69741578
>not being a wagecuck
Then who is going to pay for all the new Germans Hans??
>>69741509
>/pol/
>BECOME a hivemind
>>69738032
Some people have shit cultures.
>>69734789
>say the nigger
>>69741755
Hopefully every Christfag, moral supremacist politician and Refugees Welcome bitch that held up the signs. And all the other red cancer cells of society.
148, tested by a psychologist. Elective monarchy is the way to go.
>>69742581
Do you mean Elective monarchy in the sense that the nobles vote for the next ruler or do you want the general public involved in the vote?
>>69740925
Well you got me there
Speaking about iq and not thinking about the obvious
>>69731616
Pic related
>>69731707
uncle ted!
>>69742877
Either some type of an upper class does the electing or the monarch chooses his successor. Maybe even combined, with the current monarch's vote having more weight.
>>69740014
YOU actually sound either
>Autistic
>Low IQ
or probably both
