Well, is he right /pol/?
>>69722930
Why do you bother with that trash?
>>69723083
Trying to help other people see the right side. They choose not to. I just thought his logic was entertaining.
>>69722930
Even if refugees dont commit more crimes than native europeans percentage wise: These people would not commit them in europe if they were not here. In addition: most of them are not skilled at anything and will therefore cost tons of money until they can work (if they even want to work).
And seeing how most "refugees" dont want to stay in safe states but all want to Germany for $$$ makes me wonder if these people really are just running for their life.
>>69722930
>making a photo of the screen with camera
pls kill yourself
>>69723355
But surely you understand your country is being cucked into oblivion, right?
>>69723574
That's a puush file you retard
i find it difficult to believe they commit less crime accounting for the rotherham scandal. Isn't it more likely they aren't tracking the data or are hiding it?
He didn't source his claim, so it's dismissable anyway.
and some crimes are much worse than others. for instance, blowing up an airport and killing 30, injuring 200.
>>69723609
Not that much right now. Eastern countries close their borders and Austria only lets controlled number of people through their country.
It is actually not that much in the media right now, probably because that would make people pretty angry or sad. Me on the other hand welcome that.
>>69722930
Stop bothering. He is not listening to you. You are not going to convince anyone.
You need to understand what the moral high ground is. Leftists are SO convinced that they are morally righteous, that they don't have to think about different points of view. All that matters is that those who toe the line are GOOD and anyone who questions is BAD.
Look at his responses. He isn't even describing his position coherently. He doesn't know why he thinks you are wrong. He only knows that you are being 'xenophobic'
It does not matter how many facts you can come up with, or how eloquently you can state your thoughts. He will only shout "racist"
If you really want to get to them, wait until they make an asinine status update and mock them.
>donald trump hates all mexicans blah blah blah racist sexist
You don't respond with links to articles that prove him wrong, you call him a fucking moron. You mock him for his feeble opinions, and when he gets upset and tries to debate you, mock all of his positions.
Call his ability to speak on the subject into question. Make him feel dumb.
But NEVER try to reason with them.
oh yes, and don't forget Muslims want to change the definition of what is a crime and what is not!
Muslims don't think child rape is a crime! or killing infidels. It is entirely possible they are waiting for critical mass to start enforcing sharia law.
It's not a conspiracy they do it in every other country in the world where they go.
>>69723574
Proof: puu dot sh/o3K1v/ac7d6324b0.png
I took a screenshot, but my browser has a brightness filter that it captures in the screenshot. Which is why it looks like it was done with a phone/camera.
>>69724085
>not turning that shit off for the screenshot
kill yourself [2]
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>>69723953
It's pleddit. They're a bunch of intellectual wannabes. Calling them names won't work because their plebbit fag friends will come to the defense.
>>69724263
Sorry man.
>>69723882
Nichts zu danken Piefke.
Ihr zahlts en Deckel aber.
>>69723953
This is bad advice. I've spent years debating with them and the first time you insult them is when their brain shuts off and they go into turtle defensive mode. Once ad hominems are on the table they will never accept any logic you give them.
logical and emotional arguments do have some sway, but your arguments must be airtight. You just have to pick your battles, only address one or two points so they don't get overloaded with information and shut it all out.
Having some snark in your posts is okay, but if you go overboard they will not treat you with sincerity.
I'm speaking as someone who has had success in getting some to concede on issues.
>>69724705
Iam still surprised Austria could just close their borders like that and give no fuck what the EU or Merkel says. I respect that.
>>69724766
You're right. I was trying to emphasize the benefits of making them feel inadequate.
Don't just insult them. Give them disdain. Imply that their argument is stupid, but don't actually say it
>>69722930
Right about most things except the crime reports.
>>69725398
My question was rhetorical. He's wrong about it all.
>Libertarian Economics
I hope you realize this is just a /pol/ meme. Even Hayek said Mises can go fuck himself with his quasi religion.
>>69725615
He's right about libertarianism and stefan though.
I too think that it would be awesome if it worked but know it wouldn't.
>>69724988
You don't get the whole picture in the media about our little alps fortress.
The FP got stronger since Hebdo on the local level, made a coalition with SP in Burgenland and got 23% in theVienna elections.
SPÖVP fears for there power and is just adapting the policy the FP is feeding them.
And the narrative in the "silent" population starts to get louder, some discourses sound like straight from the Bürgerbräu Keller.
Massive bureaucratic and grasroot mobilisation against fugee homes on municpality level.
We are about to start a 1925's remake, if Hofer just makes it in the end round, I see the University in flames.
>>69725917
I linked him the video Stefan just released about the Federal Reserve, he claims Stefan is false.
>>69726259
Haven't watched that yet but from what I know about Stefan, he's probably (atleast mostly) right about that
His ideas about a libertarian society are nothing but an impossible dream though.
>>69722930
he doesnt even address the arguments in the first sentence. so why bother?
>>69726187
>>69727642
He stated that agencies like our mail system (USPS) is socialism. Why would there be a privately owned mail system?
>>69722930
>that definition of socialism
Oh jesus fuck why are American liberals so retarded
I have an actual commie friend and he says that American "socialists" make him cringe.
>>69728036
Instantly laughed at it too.
>>69727944
because there is a demand? but you should try to nail him on the whole islam stuff instead of devolving into a discussion of semantics about socialism where he will just spout the shit he learned in college and eternally move the goalpost.
>>69728036
Literally "It's 2016 so socialism means this now"
>socialism is basically capitalism and communism is that scary marxist thing xD
REeeee can this guy fuck off
>>69722930
Stephan Molyneux has refuted every statement that lib-tard sack of treasonous shit has made in that post, OP. Watch or link his relevant videos.
>>69728615
Good idea, but also he never proved he was in college. He basically said I was ad hominem for trying to ask for proof.
>>69728960
Ive watched a lot of Stefan, and linked him to his stuff and he basically said Stefan is off his rocker.
>>69729098
>he basically said Stefan is off his rocker.
You mean he categorically dismissed a source that would destroy his entire argument and world view?
So use Stef's exact arguments as your own. He backs up all his stats with sources.
Literally just parrot Stef and you win.
>>69722930
>>69729532
Well the guy I was arguing with says Stefan only sources delusional economists. So that just goes to show sources don't work on these idiots.
>>69722930
Would someone kindly, and concisely tell me, point-by-point, why he is wrong?
I would be interested to know.
>>69729879
>Well the guy I was arguing with says Stefan only sources delusional economists
I don't mean the economy shit. I don't give a single fuck about Capitalism/Socialism/Communism quibblings. It's boring and pointless.
I mainly mean the rapefugee invasion into Europe.
He cites crime stats, IQ stats, culture, etc.
>>69730457
He's flat-out objectively wrong by saying rapefugees don't commit crime more than native Europeans.
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>>69730552
That point yes, I do know. However, I would like to knows some responses to his other ones.
>>69727944
USPS may be socialism, but they fucking suck at what they do and that's why FedEx and UPS exist because they do the job so much better and faster.
yet the USPS loses billions of dollars a year, so they're a horrible example of an efficient government system
>>69726187
It's happening.
