Holy fucking shit senpai. Bernie says soviet bread lines are a good thing
https://streamable.com/iv2v
I fucking love bread lines
So yummy
>>69718691
Reddit on Suicide watch take their belts and shoestrings.
Bread lines ARE a good thing. Imagine not having to work and the rich finally give us a piece of the action!
>>69718691
what's Soviet bread lines?
sound like a Russian dish
>>69718691
He's a commie. Pick Hillary's lying dumb feminist over him chaps or kiss goodbye to freedom.
>>69718691
People are actually voting for this guy
Im pretty sure hes the most popular candidate(amongst youth) here aswell
Fml
>>69719889
>Implying you won't under Clinton.
Shit nigga the fuck you doing?
>>69718691
faux knews
taking things out of context
color me surprised
have they gone full 4th Reich on the inevitable trump rise?
they better get good trump translators who can interpret what trump ment to say on his latest blunders
>>69719989
its bc of memes
no one i know knows anything about him other than social media shit, but thats all it takes to be a liberal youth in ameirca. life time of mom and dad pampering you followed by daddy government
Yes goy, relying on the government for food is great. We will never take advantage of this and there will always be enough for all.
>>69718691
>it's 2016
>an American PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE is advocating break lines
How the mighty have fallen... If he ran in 1980, Bernie would have been lynched by freedom-blooded patriots by now.
>>69720226
implying America isn't a quasi commy nation.
get fucking real I rather have a Sanders commy than a fascist trump
>>69718691
jesus christ
>>69720123
Dont think theres much more context needed. Around the same time as that video Bernie also said that the USSR was a much stronger economy and that the US was on the verge of collpase
>>69720591
What you gotta keep in mind about this asshole is that the first job he ever had in his entire life was mayor, when he was 40.
>>69720004
Hillary is a status quo cunt. She's a massive step up above Sanders.
I'd still vote Trump though.
>>69720519
what's fascism?
>>69720664
No... Seriously?
>>69720664
Forgot pic
>>69720217
Yea it seems like all big social media accounts that spam shit all day are in favor of bernie
>>69720664
living the socialist dream
>>69720519
trumps not a fascist, and fascism is better for its citizens than communism
>>69720123
>fox news
>not a Democratic party operation
They hate Trump, did you miss the entire Megyn Kelly thing?
>>69719691
Communist russia was so inefficient that cunts had to wait in line to get rations instead of going to the shops to get whatever they want
unless you're memeing then eat my crusty ass faggot
>>69718691
is he that close of being qualified that the mud cannon is being targetted at him ?
>>69720798
>He thinks Trump is more facist than Sanders
>>69719691
there stands that hand out only one loaf of bread to people per day.
>>69720123
>when its bernie its out of context!
>when its trump its one of his latest blunders!
>send to my mother
>Yeah and his hair gets messy too!
>>69720930
>>69720923
They hate Trump precisely because they're Republican. He's fucking with their establishment, not just the demcucks.
>>69720961
I don't though
>>69721346
Not you, forgive my vagueness.
This guy
>>69720519
>>69720960
He's this close lol
>>69718691
>>69718691
>https://streamable.com/iv2v
Lol at Fox shills now working for Hillary. Bernie is a card carrying Trotsky communist, it is not a secret.
>>69721740
Based Bernie going to put the bourgeois kulaks back in their place
>>69720961
nice pic
tfw "select all images with bread"
>>69718691
I hate Sanders, but this is a non-story. He's saying in the context of a weakened or corrupt government that bread lines are good, instead of the food being hoarded or sold off to the highest bidders.
Fuck this guy. He's not an American and needs to go back to his Vermont dirt shack.
>>69721346
Then why did News Corp donate 10 times the amount to Obama that it did to McCain?
>>69722460
>instead of the food being hoarded or sold off to the highest bidders
Then he is retarded, before Soviet Union Russia and countries that were in union could self sustain. Famine was caused by WW1, Ukraine was fucking breadbasket, really good fertile soil and a huge famine still broke out. And the highly ranking Soviet bureaucrats got the best shit. So he is just wrong.
>>69722460
But communism had both starvation and bread lines.
>>69722874
Good point, maybe they're just sellouts? I mean they do endorse Republicans and did donate to some Reps as well.
>>69723196
I agree. And that's what his argument should be criticised for, not "Bernie Sanders wants American people lining up for bread".
>>69721913
While fattoes are bad, is it really that big of a problem? Food is getting cheaper and people make more around the globe. This reminds me of that one article that said it was a bad thing downies are going extinct because of a new test that can detect them so they get aborted.
This world confuses me.
>>69723559
>Food is getting cheaper
You haven't bought groceries before have you kiddo?
>>69718691
I mean its one way to solve the obesity problem.
>>69722460
The only reason they had shortages in the first place was because of communism and central planning. If it was a country where people could make good and sell them to the highest biddert hey would have had starvation and lines in the first place
folks, the fact that bernie is where he is right now is a very scary thing. once all these baby boomers die off and all these millennials grow, i hate to say it, but socialism like you have never before seen is coming folks. the government will have to subsidize everyone eventually, when robots are surely going to take over all these jobs. If that's going to happen then it is going to be very important how that money is split off.
The thing is, those who think they will be immune to this, LOL, you will be a broke dick nigger just like the rest of them, even though you mgiht think you are baller rich, you are not. your millions of dollars do not mean a thing. so a lot of people now talking like they are against redistribution of wealth, but they soon too will be for it. believe it folks.
/rant
>>69718691
>https://streamable.com/iv2v
We know Comrade Sanders is a Marxist, just like Comrade Corbyn in the UK.
Why is this a surprise? This faggot didn't even have a job until he was 40.
>>69723559
Dunno about Clapistan, but food is getting more expensive in europe
>>69718691
THEY JUST WERENT DONE RIGHT, WE JUST NEED THE RIGHT LEADER TO OVERSEE THE BREAD LINES THE PHILOSOPHY IS FINE IT WAS JUST THE EXECUTION THAT WAS WRONG
>>69723196
you're deluded anon, as a lot of people.
1 - Famine was common everywhere up to the 40's, for a lot of reason but the most important one being poor weather conditions.
2 - 1st soviet famine was in fact imposed by the west, to punish the bolchevik
3 - 2nd soviet famine was widespread in the entire soviet land. It's correct to say forced industrialisation of the country have aggravated the famine, but once again the main cause of the whole famine have been very bad weather condition with massive flood.
4 - "holomodor" is a hoax used by Hitler's media and Hearst press, backed by photos that have been proven to be fake (pic related, 4 fakes in this board)
5 - Those in Ukraine (in lvov oblast) who say they suffered the most of it have not suffered at all about it, and btw were not even "Ukrainian" when the famine occured.
>>69724079
hahahahahahahaha
>>69723903
also this is a good thing, jobs are for robots. there will be a time where people will look down on people who work. IMO we are going towards star trek level of society, where doing good for humanity will be priority and trinkets won't mean a thing.
as seen in this scene from star trek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzqW0YaN2ho
>>69723965
Also, Americlaps are getting fat at the lower end of the income distribution because their nutrition is shithouse. Eating burgers or cheesy chips 3 times a day.
When govt. debt implodes these lardasses will be pleased that they had 100 extra lbs on them. It will mean 3 months of excess calories while they figure out how to do something genuinely productive because their welfare checks are gone.
>>69720123
>taking things out of context
Bernie is the only one talking in those clips and they're unedited. How fucking deluded are you?
>>69720817
He's a career politician and he only has a bachelor's?
>>69724206
Is anyone surprised? Didn't he say something about how too much brand selection is a bad thing too?
Full-blown commie masquerading as a "democratic socialist."
>>69724079
almost amusing
>>69724216
>burgers
>not a great source of protein and fat
>>69720923
>did you miss the entire Megyn Kelly thing?
you mean the feud that faggot wouldn't let go
>They hate Trump,
Bill O'Reilly cried when he wouldn't go to his show no more remember "the milk shakes" whatever gay shit that is.
>>69721060
well trump is very straight forward when it comes to fuck ups isn't that the reason y'all love em?
cus he has no political filter and talks like an edgy 13 year old
Sanders here is obviously saying that is better to have bread lines than having an oligarchy taking every single thing.
I must admit pretty retard statement cus it gives fuel to scare mongers like y'all to come with your own conclusions.
trump is very clear what he what's to do and it's not pretty
>>69720817
That's such a pathetic resume. A college freshman would have a better one.
>>69720664
Whereas Trump has never had a proper job in his life. Born out of a super-rich vagina, life for this playboy is just a game, betting at the casino with spare money without any real risk.
Shill harder, Cletus.
>>69724343
"Democratic Socialist" = radical marxist trying to take your freedoms away under "muh popular vote"
"Communist" = "Democratic Socialist" who has lost the "muh popular vote" and decides to take your freedoms away at gun point.
>>69724340
there were breadlines in USA in 60s 70s 80s?
>>69724079
gee wiz how unlucky all these communist countries have completely unavoidable natural famines
>>69720923
>implying everyone who's against tump is a democrat
>implying all Fox commentators are anti-Trump
Eric Bowling, Sean Hannity, and others are outright pro-trump.
O'reilly, Bret Baier, an other pundits have been soft on Trump (probably in order to not alienate their audience).
>>69724591
It's funny you mention that, because former members of the party literally renamed themselves to social-democrats and stayed in politics after the fall of communism
>>69724550
You're an idiot if you think running a business is easy. It's not.
And even if it was you still need to be relatively on point with your capital investment. Bernie "Red Under the Bed" Sanders, just spends taxpayer income like it's pocket money.
>>69724002
he never said that maggot don't put words in his mouth
no wonder trump loves the poorly educated
>>69723559
Source on the test? I want to avoid spawning retards
>mfw my friends support Bernie
>>69724783
Yeah. I wasn't kidding. Democratic Socialist is a meme party for Marxists.
I know a bunch of them.
>>69718691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE
Bernie thinks that's a good representation of an equal society. Look at all of that equality goyim!
>>69720930
How crusty we talking about here
>>69721190
But the post i that image is correct.
Are you deying that sexism or racism has ever existed?
Men who support bernie are self loathing cucks.
There is nothing more pathetic than a socialist man.
>>69724079
boy you sure are fucking stupid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggazSsQpTF
>>69724896
Back in school I knew a fat chick that everyone made fun of because she always screamed at every dude that approached her, she said they're fascist chauvinist pigs, literally tumblr before tumblr, or rather before internet became widespread. She was handing out flyers of some green party and after years of everyone refusing to fuck her, declared herself as lesbian and went full pro-lgbt. She ended up joining one of the smaller social-democratic parties that were supposed to create a strong united left but failed miserably.
>>69724237
Hello Pierre. How is the capital flight and exodus of educated under Comrade Hollande's policies working?
If he shills 4 Marx any harder he can achieve a Neo-Soviet state by default.
>>69724784
>You're an idiot if you think running a business is easy. It's not.
trump inherit a business and a bunch of money all he literally had to do is not fuck it up...
yet he did and got rescued multiple times until he rode the Bush housing decline
>>69724079
>"holomodor" is a hoax used by Hitler's media and Hearst press, backed by photos that have been proven to be fake (pic related, 4 fakes in this board)
Say that to my ancestors you french faggot
I swear I'' break your stupid Che Guevara shirt wearing face you cum guzzling commie
>>69723709
I can get a bacon cheese burger, chicken nuggets, fries, dipping sauce, and a coke from Wendy's all for $4.
Don't act like that calories to purchasing power ratio isn't unlike anything before in history.
>>69724207
star trek is literally like propaganda
they even had the first interracial kiss on TV
very disgusting show
>>69725509
>She ended up joining one of the smaller social-democratic parties that were supposed to create a strong united left but failed miserably.
For fuck's sake Poland. Why is your country so based? When our (non-Marxist) countries go down in flames, I hope you raise a glass to all the good capitalists who died at the hands of Marxist dipshits.
>>69724850
>maggot
That's not very progressive of you, are you implying that the maggot is less than other species? You support biological heirarchy, bourgeoisie scum?
>>69724600
same question apply for Soviet union. Were there starvations in the 60s ????
> but muh wait lines
Have you been at US comic con recently ?
>>69724683
Next reference to come is the Chinese famine.
Yet, china had major famine every fucking years since 2000 years. Dynasties collapsed due to famine there.
Commies succedded in China also because it was the promise of no more systemic famines. And guess what, taken apart the great leap forward mistake, they managed to do it, and fed a population of 1 billion.
pic for polandbro
>>69718691
I'm a former Soviet Union citizen, he can go fuck himself
>>69725529
And yet, if Bernie had been given that opportunity he would have bankrupted the company in less than 24 months and come back begging the parents of modern day Plebbit fags for taxpayer bailouts.
>>69725424
my bad i fucked up my link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggazSsQpTFE
>>69725590
I'm 35 and have been buying groceries for a while now.
Each year it takes a larger percentage of my income to purchase the same things I purchased the year before. This is after raises.
The price increase of food is outpacing inflation.
>10 year ago you could get a egg mcmuffin, hashbrowns and coke for $2.49
>>69724870
Simple prenatal diagnostics, like checking the amniotic fluid.
What he meant was maybe the PID in particular.
Basically what happened in the Gattaca film: artificial impregnation but checking the egg cells for defects before implantation and only implanting the healthy ones.
Logical, eh? of course church cucks and liberals are enraged because no longer cripples would be born.
>>69718691
Will be the easiest election Republicans ever had
That's what socialism is good for. For generating anything related with lines.
>>69723913
He had jobs as a carpenter, a psychiatric assistant, and as a journalist before he was 40.
I don't like Sanders but this meme nees to die.
>>69724079
The majority of famines have been caused by human-caused inacess to food, not weather.
Soviet planing and Stalin wanting to weaken a rebellious region caused the famine.
>>69724079
Retourne au PCF et ferme ta gueule avec ta propagande de merde.
The main reason that there were famines in the USSR (every famine) is because Stalin fucked everything up with the bullshit collective farms through his forced collectivization of agriculture. I think you had the same history program in school as me, and that's the basic explanation for why it happened. Go back to your fucking factory job, you CGT fuck.
Famines common up to 1940s? Where? You dumb cunt..Famines are mostly caused due to environmental changes or wars..
The only famines that are cause by ineptitude are the ones in communist countries because of their policies.
>>69725891
hypocriticals don't work like that
>>69725529
if im not mistaken he inherited all of his fathers fortune after he already made his first billion dollars
>>69725769
>same question apply for Soviet union. Were there starvations in the 60s ????
there were food shortages you fucking moron go ahead deny this fucking faggot out yourself the retard that you are
>>69725424
>>69725973
>Jew hater giving wikipedia references
>>69725542
try it faggot I'll stick your ss Brown shirt up your ass
>>69726383
good luck with that you fat commie
>>69726233
nah he was in deep shit before that, his dad was the first one to rescue em a couple of times
>>69726195
I think you mean "hypotheticals." Also Bernie has had a steady income of ~$175k annually for as long as he's been a senator and has very little to show for it.
>>69726488
>Sgt. Rainbow reporting in for the revolution.
>>69718691
its not just a meme, he is a communist
>>69721190
>this image
All it does is give me replies and makes me even more powerful
>>69718691
>The rich get the food, and the poor starve to death
This is what I've been talking about THIS ENTIRE TIME
People who parrot this nonsense are idiots.
The rich people dont EAT UP ALL THE FOOD.. For christ's sake, they have the same sized stomachs. Just because they have a million times more wealth, doesn't mean they wipe their asses with a million times more toilet paper, leaving you paperless. Capitalism favors the financially responsible; if you're poor, then you don't have credit, and you certainly don't have capital, and your opinions become worthless.
I'm not a big fan of the capitalist system, but it's a lot better than their kind of socialism.
>>69726254
ok fag
http://www.holodomorct.org
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25058256
http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/ukraine_famine.htm
http://www.ukrainiangenocide.org
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/deleting-holodomor-ukraine-unmakes-itself
http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CF%5CA%5CFamine6Genocideof1932hD73.htm
keep sucking the jew dick frenchie
>>69725769
China didn't feed their people. Norman Borlaug did. An American capitalist.
>>69726488
let's do it faggot>>69726500
>>69723559
It kind of is since the worst populations on the planet are exploding due to a combination of no self control, no education, and sudden introduction of cheap food because western cucks feel bad for them
>>69726500
>Implying a business never needed a new line of credit, or suffered liquidity problems early on.
Bruh, have you even formed a start-up? Have you read about Apple's history? Or Fedex?
Access to capital is vital to a business' survival.
>>69726183
Ben toi ma couille, c'est sur les bancs de l'école que tu devrais retourner, section histoire contemporaine.
Staline responsable de la 1ère famine ... alors qu'il n'était même pas encore au pouvoir et que c'était la guerre des "blancs" contre les "rouges", ça me fait sourire. Cette famine (vers 1921) a eu 3 facteurs: économique (désorganisation des moyens de production dû à une putain de guerre civile), climatique (sècheresse de 1921), et politique (un "état ouvrier" n'as pas à se faire aider par des états impérialistes).
Les famines étaient bien monnaie courante avant l'industrialisation de l'agriculture, c'est ça la clé, et c'est pas parce que tu l'ignorait que ça ne s'est pas passé.
Regarde par exemple ce qu'il s'est passé en Inde, que les Anglais ont littéralement laissé crever de faim. Oui oui, le "grand Churchill" qui est responsable de cela.
>>69726721
and unfortunately, the USA isn't a capitalist system anymore. It hasn't been since banks took 100% control 100 years ago with The Fed
>>69727041
truth, there are a lot more socialist elements in the usa than people like to mention
>bread lines are a good thing...
>...in comparision with countries where the rich have food, and the poor have none (starve)
Lol, are you idiots shitting me? You think thats a statement where he SUPPORTS bread lines?
>>69726516
Bullshit. This old white kike is leading the revolution ;) That's worth at least a tax-payer funded Audi R8.
Maybe a mansion or two too.
>fox business
the same show which discussed donald trump memes, and 'god emperor trump'
i'd trust this shit just as much as elite daily
>>69726488
ADF is the poster child for the retarded left
He's done more to hurt communism than a thousand missile strikes
>>69726762
You could cite half of those sources to prove the holocaust, and the other half are organizations/sources that exist for holodomor awareness, which exist for the holocaust as well.
>>69726236
>there were food shortages
citation needed
>>69723559
Yes it is bad for the environment
>>69727163
>Implying he's somehow not a Commie faggot who would run the US Economy into the ground like every other Commie faggot in a leadership position in history.
>>69720664
How the fuck do you go from having practically zero work experience to becoming Mayor?
>>69720123
This is just like that racist phrase comrade sanders said about white people. "You're just taking it out of context!" Come up with a new excuse you braindead redditor.
>>69726721
>I'm not a big fan of the capitalist system, but it's a lot better than their kind of socialism.
>favoring a system which blatantly ignores the poor as you already stated
How retarded are you?
>>69718691
HELLO, MEEEE MOOOOOOO!
Don't mind my shiny red commiemobile! I'm on my way to crush capitalism!
Ps: please donate $3 today!
>>69726721
One third of the world's food is wasted, meaning that the world's richest are indeed holding resources that could be used to feed the starving poor.
And suggesting that starvation around the world happens because people aren't thrifty enough is absurd.
>>69727263
There where fucking lines for food up to the Soviet collapse because there was so little of it.
But thank you for proving that you are indeed retarded
>citation needed
My mom lived in Soviet Union
>>69727433
Be Jewish. Shill 4 Marx.
>>69727231
i don't have access to encyclopedias right now and in the time it would take me to find a "worthy source" the thread will be done, frankly i could have linked a bunch of cited sources from the wiki page but i figured that would be just a little lazy
are you saying the holocaust did not happen?
it did, but the 6 gorillion number is waayy out of whack id say its more like 100,000-250,000 if that
>>69727512
If you're willing to ignore context and eat up 5 second soundclips, then by all means.
>>69727594
Going to convert to Judaism then, see you all in a few years when I'm Mayor, bitches
>>69727551
>black men for bernie
WEW LAD
>>69725529
Trump was already rich as fuck before he inherited it.
He made that all that money with investments he could make with his loan
>>69727565
>could be used to feed the starving poor.
And you're going to pay for that program right?
Who is going to manage that logistical nightmare?
The US govt?
So you raise taxes on American citizens, making their lives harder, to give food non-citizens?
>>69727570
just leave him to his ignorance. He just told a guy to get back to school in French while making grammatical mistakes.
>>69724079
>denying the holomodor
enjoy your 5 year prison sentence- oh wait
why isn't it treated the same as the holocaust :^)
>>69727732
See you when you're mayor of OP's thread, England. Godspeed.
>>69727530
>favoring a system that takes power away from retards, and gives power to intelligent competent, productive people.
Sounds pretty good to me.
It's so fucking funny to see someone seriously support communism. It boggles my mind someone would to that consciously and intentionally.
Ration stamps are a good thing only in theory. In reality you get small amounts of food, black market flourishes, all stores have empty shelves. The whole ordeal was also VERY time consuming and exhausting.
You know how food lines looked like? Lines could be hundreds of meters long, it would take HOURS, even whole days to even get to the store. In the end it could turn out that the store is empty and you come back to your family empty handed.
Food lines were a family affair, someone would stand in a line for a few hours and then someone would sub him. Some people even offered to stand for yoou if you paid them.
If any commie reads this - the quicker you realise that communism does not work and today's system is the best there is, the better it would be for you.
>>69727651
What fucking context? Bread lines didn't work. And in fact helped nothing. The government should not decide what's to eat and where to eat. No thanks you braindead millenial.
>>69727565
Hello Liberal Arts Major. How r u today my fernd?
Food is perishable. Some parts of the world are not easily transported to (see: poor infrastructure, rough terrain etc.)
Maybe the food sits rotting somewhere because there is no way to ship the excess out to the middle of the Congo, or a jungle village somewhere in Goa. Didya ever think about that champ?
Comrade Sanders would probably commission a squadron of transport Concords to airlift beans and rice all over the world by parachute though. Fuck the taxpayers, yo! E-Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y of wealth!
>>69727824
>French while making grammatical mistakes
of course he did learning French as Russian is hard
>>69727926
>>>favoring a system that takes power away from retards
Alternatively, people who are disadvantaged due to their environment and lack opportunity.
>>and gives power to intelligent competent, productive people.
Alternatively, people who are born with silver spoons in their mouths.
>>69725769
Look at the development of life expectancy during the Soviet Union.
By the end of the USSR, Russian females had a lower life expectancy than American males.
And let's not talk about Russian males who on average didn't see the 60.
>>69726167
>The majority of famines have been caused by human-caused inacess to food, not weather.
Once again, the key to solve famines (worlwide) has been mechanisation of the agriculture, and mass production technique.
In countries were you don't have this, you still have famine, even nowadays. Pretty simple.
When someone refer to a famine, it's always under a "communist" regime, and basically that's a reason why everyone is talking about.
Famine in British held India killed 30 millions at least. Irish potato famine killed 1.5 millions, Bengal famine of 1943 killed 10 millions (under British empire).
No one is ever mentionning all these famines , why ?
>>69725723
Poland is far from based, but it's also far from a shithole, don't trust in /pol/ memes. As someone who lived in America for some time, I'm not exactly a fan of aggressive capitalism neither, cause I've seen both sides of that coin.
I just dislike the lying marxists (usually in their teens and early 20s) who just love to turn GOP candidates into embodiment of evil itself when ironically they fuel their entire campaign by fear (of supposedly omnipresent neonazis, words, hurt feelings and other scary things) and hatred (towards the republicans, rich, christians, policemen or even whites in general). And don't get me started on BLM, which is straight out a black supremacist organization.
It's also always funny how people who defend communism or think it was good are always the spoiled westerners.
For the record, communists did the same thing those leftists do now, it divided people. I wish those kids have seen Byelorussian SSR with their own eyes, I wonder if they'd still spout same bullshit. PRL was a paradise compared to it, they had literally nothing. We left money for them during every trip there. Do you know who Belarussians blamed for their poverty? Poles. They were told by the Soviets that Poles were taking everything from them.
In Ukraine children were taught to hate their own kind and speak Russian. Communism tried to divide everyone.
>>69724079
>>69728017
Well here's the rest of the quote >>69727163
Does this not absolutely change the meaning of what he said, or are you so dense and mired in /pol/ bullshit that you won't actually do your research?
>>69727999
thread/
it is rather cringe worthy to see real communists in the current year, its like some kind of sick joke that these people actually have faith in and believe in communism
>>69724079
Nice try sartre
>>69728120
>No one is ever mentionning all these famines , why ?
Because everybody has already outgrown colonialism
>>69718691
>>69728074
What baffles me is that you totally seem to forget about those people that rose from poverty to become rich.
Why should they be punished for overcoming their enviroment?
>>69718691
If you dig into his past, you find he's a total Sovietboo. He's so autistic, he named the Burlington softball team "The People's Republic of Burlington" and made their uniforms have commie propaganda all over them.
He probably wouldn't sold nukes to them if given the chance; fucking Frankfurt School disciple.
>>69727530
>blatantly ignores the poor
Gee I wonder why they're poor. Maybe it's cause they're fucking lazy and don't want to get a better paying job? Maybe it's because kids nowadays are complete fucking retards who buy buy buy without thinking of the consequences? Like that occupy wall Street rally? Quit making excuses for your laziness and get up off your ass and get a job. I did it. And I grew up dirt fucking poor
>>69727823
I never said any of that.
The Canadian said that the world's rich don't waste resources at the detriment of the rest of the world, I argued that that is not true.
Me simply acknowledging something's existence doesn't mean I will hold positions you would like to ascribe to me.
>>69724079
>1st soviet famine was in fact imposed by the west, to punish the bolchevik
>Hey look at us being self sufficient
>Where the free bread at
>denying the holomodor
>>69728200
Sorry, I don't like rewarding the lazy with food. Let them starve for all I care. They have plenty of gibsmedat to use. And still they're "starving"
>>69728336
*would've*
>>69719022
Soviet bread lines on the other hand.
>>69728336
he'd get absolutely wrecked in the general election for exactly this reason
>>69727324
>supports universal healthcare akin to the rest of the civilised world
>supports closing taxloop holes for large corporations
>supports a massive expansion of much needed infrastructure
>supports a livable minimum wage
But yeah, fuck Sanders, he's a fucking commie. Lol amerifags are so dense it's hilarious.
>>69728412
I quote you and carry your shitpost to it's logical conclusion
>i never said that!
It's like arguing with a toddler.
>>69728153
>I'm not exactly a fan of aggressive capitalism neither, cause I've seen both sides of that coin.
Abuse of market power is real shitty yeah. Bring back Adam Smith!
>For the record, communists did the same thing those leftists do now, it divided people.
Yup. There is just no reasoning with the brainwashed though. To anyone with an IQ over 115 it is obvious what is going on.
Ah well, PolBro, maybe someday we'll meet up on a foreign battlefield and fight the good fight together.
>>69728337
>Gee I wonder why they're poor.
Because they lack opportunity? It's certainly easier to be wealthy in Sweden than in Sudan.
>Maybe it's cause they're fucking lazy and don't want to get a better paying job
For some people? Yeah. But you have to realize that the vast majority of people want to improve their standard of living.
> Maybe it's because kids nowadays are complete fucking retards who buy buy buy without thinking of the consequences
God forbid a bunch of kids don't know the repercussions of their actions. Or they get fucked by colleges.
>get up off your ass and get a job. I did it. And I grew up dirt fucking poor
Good for you, and I grew up in a poverty level single parent household.
>>69725769
>same question apply for Soviet union. Were there starvations in the 60s ????
Yes.
And the 70's.
And the 80's.
And the 50's.
>>69718691
Bernie is such a fucking idiot it amazes me.
Bernie supporters are even dumber do they will defend this.
>>69726721
>Just because they have a million times more wealth, doesn't mean they wipe their asses with a million times more toilet paper
Absolute Kekman.
>>69728438
> I don't like rewarding the lazy with food
I can guarantee that a factory worker with 40 hour weeks works far harder than you or me, yet they get way less food. Not only that, but your ideas would lead to a very very incensed poor population, leading to crime and other awful shit.
>>69726721
Not just that but everyone I personally know has good despite the rich being rich kek.
Liberals are literally comprised of autists and niggers, they have no logic.
Hillary still looks worse than Sanders tbqh
>>69728674
>Ah bloo bloo college is so expensive :(
no it isn't. My little brother who makes 16 an hour and works 40 hours a week is doing just fine paying for his college tuition. And he's going with STEM at that. This dude has his own house, truck, 2 nieces, dirtbikes and a spoiled wife and he does just fine. Quit making excuses you lazy entitled kid.
>>69728498
just like obama did for sucking frank marshal davis's cock and surrounding himself with soviet style commies. plus all the commie shit his parents did.
owait
>>69728498
>supporting a progressive socialist government over literal rapists and terrorists who were in fact funded with american taxpayer money
Holy shit what a communist!
>>69728896
>yet they get way less food
patently false
They get as much food as the spend their income on.
And since most factory job in the US are middle class jobs, they don't have to spend more than a fraction of the their income on food.
>>69728074
>Alternatively, people who are disadvantaged due to their environment and lack opportunity.
Capitalism maximizes opportunity.
>Alternatively, people who are born with silver spoons in their mouths.
If they're retards, they're likely to lose their fortune. That's the beauty of it. It takes the spoon out of their mouth.
>>69728109
>>69728109
>Look at the development of life expectancy during the Soviet Union
Yes, look at it, really
It's never been higher up to the collapse of USSR.
and during Yeltsin (the libertarian period of Russia), it re-collapsed. A great success of capitalism
During Yeltsin period, a lot of people in Russia clearly starved to death. No one to ever mention this *fact*
>>69728896
There are food stamps, section 8 and plenty of other welfare programs he could use to get himself on his feet and a better fucking job. Quit making excuses.
>>69728584
>supports universal healthcare akin to the rest of the civilised world
Supports a system which is vampiric in nature, with exponential growth costs for over 55s.
A system which relies on its children to feed it, causing a plunge in fertility rates in the West.
>supports closing taxloop holes for large corporations
Wants to gut the productive portion of the economy while raising expenses.
>supports massive expansion of much needed infrastructure
Citation needed. Is this like Marxist France's "expansion to much needed infrastructure" where they dropped millions of taxpayer shekels on trains which were too big for the tracks?
>supports a livable minimum wage
Supports potential inflationary policy which could also lead to higher structural unemployment, as evidenced by Europe.
Fixed for you, Swedecuck.
>>69726991
Je parlai de la famine de 1932. La première que l'on peut considérer être entre les mains du pouvoir; puisque pour celle de 1921, il faut considérer les effets de la révolution Russe, donc inutile d'en parler.
Si on considère celle de 1921, comme tu le mentionnes, c'était la guerre. Mais imaginons que la révolution n'a eu aucun impact pour un moment, et regardons l'inéficaté de la prodrazvyorstka, qui était un des facteurs majeurs contribuant à cette famine.
Et dire que calle de 1921 était contre les bolsh, alors que même les US leur ont enboyé des aides humanitaires.
En en parlant de la famine Bengal de 1943, mettre toute la faute sur Chruchill est de mauvaise foi. Certes il a été froid avec eux, mais c'est plutôt le gouvernement qui avait restreint le libre échange plus qu'autre chose qui a créer cette famine.
>Les famines étaient monnaie courante [...]
Pfff..Je ne sais même pas quoi te répondre à cette imbécilité a part te dire d'aller comparer toutes les famines, les compter, et voir pourquoi elles ont eu lieu. Mais vraiment n'importe quoi de dire que les famines étaient courante jusqu'en 1940.
Donc, c'est bien que t'ai appris ta leçon de propagande de gauche, mais tu as tort et plutôt toi qui doit retourner a l'école. De plus, ton "ma couille" montre bien que tu es d'un milieu précaire, retourne à ton PCF et CGT pour que tes camarades te soutiennent pendant que tu essaies de réécrire l'histoire.
Tu simplifies beaucoup trop l'histoire pour qu'elle rentre dans ton idéologie tordue. Les gauchistes Français, vous n'avez toujours rien compris, vous êtes vraiment une cause perdue.
As a son of USSR immigrants I can confidently say that all communists deserve being executed only for supporting this genocidal system.
You have no idea how bad you will have it you underage faggots.
>>69728200
He's still advocating for bread lines and insinuating that the USA needs some sort of federal agency that hands out free food (even though we already have shitloads of places the homeless can get free shelter and food). The meaning isn't changed at all.
>>69729010
>no it isn't.
That's just wrong, especially if you look at tuition costs in other nations.
>>69719690
F-FREE BREAD?
>>69728896
Yes but they easily replaced, low skilled and an easy to come by commodity. They aren't valuable at all. You aren't rewarded for your work faggot, your paid based on your value to a company.
I can replace factory workers with illegals who will work for less thanks to liberals. Your argument is regarded kek.
>>69728019
During the famine in India in the 1870s the British government maintained food exports from India even though millions were starving in India.
The same thing happened in Ireland. http://www.usbornefamilytree.com/irishfoodexports.htm
The same thing also happened in Central America and the Caribbean after the Banana Wars.
The poor are starved for the benefit of people making profit who export that food to the world's richest.
>>69729203
Then go get financial aid. Jesus you guys need your hand held through life? You're not a child anymore.
>>69728896
I've worked in plenty of factories and they get paid well--certainly well enough to pay rent and afford food. You're dense.
>>69729203
Move to those other nation you worthless fag. You'll still be worthless on the other side of the planet too.
>>69729062
>progressive
>>69729092
>capitalism maximizes opportunity
Not really. The free market isn't this flawless being that provides everyone with a way up the ladder. Instead, some people get fucked because they're born in Detroit while others get it easy in Manhattan.
>If they're retards, they're likely to lose their fortune.
Not really, you have to be the world's biggest retard to go from the top to the bottom.
>>69718691
>"I don't like Sanders because he's a literal communist"
>>HURR DURR DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM IS NOT COMMUNISM :^) GO READ DAS KAPITAL SHITLORD
>mfw he literally praises the soviet union and says soundbites that might as well come straight from the communist manifesto
It's honestly fucking sick that this communist kike is doing as well as he is. It's fucking unbelievable.
>>69728752
no, no no no.
There have been 3 starvation during the soviet era:
1921: civil war, poor weather (drought), west refused to sell grain. Estimated death: 8 millions
1933: colectivisation, poor weather (flood). Estimated death: 6 millions
1946: war, poor gov. decision (keep strategical reserve). Estimated death: 1 million
That's it. since 1946, there has been no such thing as starvation in USSR.
SANDERS OR NOTHING DEMOKEKS
>>69729245
I never said their work was valuable, I just said that it was very very difficult. I feel like someone should be rewarded for doing such hard work, but fuck me right?
>>69729382
Plenty of people from Detroit have made themselves into successful members of society.
Losers like you will always make excuses for your pathetic lives when really you're the only one to blame. The rich aren't holding you back, you being a loser is a choice you make.
>>69729437
>>69728498
>Reagan did nothing wrong
>>69729527
They are rewarded with a pat check. What are you talking about?
>>69729382
>Not really. The free market isn't this flawless being that provides everyone with a way up the ladder. Instead, some people get fucked because they're born in Detroit while others get it easy in Manhattan.
Neither detroit nor manhattan are free markets.
>Not really, you have to be the world's biggest retard to go from the top to the bottom.
When you're able to buy the government, any semblance of the free market is gone. But if you're just "rich", it's very easy to lose your fortune. It happens all the time.
Check out lotto winners if you need some examples.
>>69729594
Pay*
>>69729527
>I feel like someone should be rewarded for doing such hard work, but fuck me right?
They ARE, you retard. Have you even worked on a fucking assembly line in a factory? Factories pay very well because they have to since the work is so shitty and monotonous. I've spent the last decade working in shitty factories.
>>69728584
Your socialist caliphate is so amazing, it's set to implode by 2030.
Don't forget to check your privilege, you fucking white male shitlord.
>>69729548
>plenty
Wow, it sure would be nice to have some statistics on how many people from modern Detroit aren't totally fucked.
I also don't understand what is up with the personal attacks. I'm headed for a STEM career and some graduate stuff in college, but apparently I'm this lazy kid who wants free shit.
>>69718691
>>69727551
Come on, thats clearly not Bernie driving
>>69729649
>They ARE, you retard.
Yes, every single worker gets his fair share and nobody gets raked over the coals while other people make absurd amounts of money.
I'm sure this has been played many times on ABC CBS NBC and CNN........
>>69720664
That's not true though, there's no need to make shit about the guy, we have plenty of other things to hate about him.
>>69729272
Federal financial aid typically doesn't cover the larger portion of the $22,000 average annual tuition.
>>69728120
see
>>69729264
Famines are often in regions that do produce enough food but the population doesn't have access to it because of government control, be it imperial or communist.
>>69728594
All I did was state the largely undisputed fact that one-third of the world's food is wasted by first-worlders.
You can take that to whatever conclusion you want to.
>>69729595
Equity, even in a perfect free market, is always eliminated within a generation, due to inheritance.
>>69729851
Because it's called "aid" if you can't cover the rest of that, then you're too uneducated to be wasting your time in college.
>>69729752
They get paid very well for what a monkey can do. You act like factory workers get paid minimum wage which is fucking bullshit. Also, press operators get paid more than assembly workers, die setters get paid more than them, maintenance gets paid more than die setters, etc.
Want even more money? Work your way up in the factory and learn as you go. No one should just get free shit for being a dumb ass. Where is the incentive to learn new skills?
>>69718691
He also honeymooned in the USSR and supports gun control.
>>69729375
Literally no better word to use, even if it has become a buzzword associated with BBC loving Swedes.
>>69728208
Honestly, I don't really support such methods and it is kind of hypocritical but anyone who truly believes in communism should be executed. This ideology is SO fucking toxic, and it rots the brain so deeply that it can almost NEVER be cleansed and fixed. Young minds are so susceptible to bullshit and they can't see through that and they soak that ideology for years to be completely brainwashed and lost in the end.
I support freedom of speech and freedom of thought. I hate policing just because of ideas, but... Some ideologies simply should not be tolerated: communism, and islam. Both are toxic, both are incompatible to the western civilization, both are dangerous, both are stupid. One might be more appealing than the other, but the other has strength in numbers of followers.
Oh, and a quick response to anyone saying that Christianity is equally as damaging of an ideology as Islam: Firstly, no. Secondly, as an atheist I really hate all religions but Christianity is compatible with our civilization and it can be worked and reasoned with. Islam can not be.
>>69729954
> if you can't cover the rest of that
Say I get $5,000 in aid. By the average, I'm still paying $17,000 per year. Does this not seem like a problem to you when other countries have far less strenuous costs, or perhaps no costs at all?
>>69729924
So?
Like I said: it's good to have a system that takes power away from idiots and gives it to good elements in society.
Equity on the scale of an individual lifetime is irrelevant.
>>69729851
And even then, it's called a student loan. Just don't be a total fucktard and spend all your money on drugs and expensive shit. That's why it's there in the first place. As an incentive to get a good job and pay it off.
>>69729119
>Mais vraiment n'importe quoi de dire que les famines étaient courante jusqu'en 1940.
Je l'ai dit en Anglais: ce qui a arrêté les famines, c'est la mécanisation de l'agriculture. Là où elle s'est faite, les famines se sont éteintes.
C'est quand même pas compliqué.
Quand à compter les famines, justement il faudrait le faire pas uniquement lorsqu'elles se sont déroulées dans des pays (soit-disant) communistes.
>milieu précaire
moi qui paie l'isf ...
>>69718691
It's called.food stamp day at walmart
>>69728674
G R I E V A N C E B A T T L E !
>>69720817
your pic completely contradicts your original post though.
>>69730027
You've basically came to the same conclusion as Hoppe. You can't have a free society because allowing totally free thought means that you allow ideologies like communism to bubble up, which will eventually take control either through revolution or incrementalism
His conclusion was that communists must be physically removed
>>69730104
Yes. Student loans. Serves as a perfect incentive to get off your lazy ass after college to get a well paying job.
Kek no wonder Hilldog had to blatently pay to beat this guy.
Hes literally a Soviet sleeper agent
>>69729681
Human progress has been fought between keks/gibs, and a small, hard-working and intelligent minority.
Honestly it's amazing we took humanity this far. I expect in 300 years we'll have forgotten how to build wheels.
>>69718691
I want to see the full unedited clip
>>69729978
The factory worker was a hypothetical example, and it is entirely possible for them to be underpaid and treated like shit.
>No one should just get free shit for being a dumb ass.
But that happens in both socialist and capitalist systems. The difference is that socialism helps prevent the poor from getting totally fucked.
>>69729887
>You can take that to whatever conclusion you want to.
And you can deflect reality in any way you want to,.
>>69729479
And the iron curtain was not a thing.
Journalists were freely allowed to report about starvations.
t. A fucking commie frog
>>69730205
Yeah I know, we're trying to out-poor eachother and debate politics on a board known for denying the holocaust.
>>69727551
>black men for Bernie
Meanwhile, if you had a slogan that said "white men for.." any candidate, it would be political suicide.
>>69730138
>That's why it's there in the first place
No, the massive costs of college were never directly intended for any reason, much less as a way to drive students forward.
>>69718691
At least he's still not a Clinton.
>>69730430
Because white folks are the majority and white males hold the most power/privilege in society... duh. God your such a fucking bigot
>>69730004
You implying it's progressive in the pre-Tumblr sense is still retarded.
>>69728498
Honestly, he wouldn't. The Bernie voter base is WAY too rabid to care.
>>69729685
The personal attacks were because I assumed you were referring to yourself.
I don't have any stats though but you can't honestly believe there are zero poor people from Detroit who worked hard and got out. I can probably Google it and find a few. Opportunity is everywhere, it just takes hard work and ambition which isn't appealing to most Americans.
>>69730556
Sorry Ahmed, remind me to self-flagellate after praying to Mecca this evening.
>>69730296
>The factory worker was a hypothetical example, and it is entirely possible for them to be underpaid and treated like shit.
Then go to a different fucking factory. Jesus Christ. No amount of socialism will fix a dick head boss. You've never worked in a factory or any sort of manual labor and it's obvious to me.
It's like you believe all assembly workers, die setters, machine operators, part sorters, and maintenance should make one flat rate (where the assembly line workers make significantly more than they did before, but everyone else takes a hit).
If that was the case, no one would ever bother to learn anything new since there is no financial incentive there. They would all be content to be a part sorter and off-loader.
>>69730485
Yes...you do realize we do live in a capitalist society and college loans are investments for profit, right?
>>69730676
Malinvestment by government though. Yes?
Not true capitalism.
>>69730222
Communism can exist in a free society as long as its voluntary. Theres no reason that we need to stop people from forming and joining collectives. In fact, its good to have competing social arrangements. Theyll stillnbe massively left behind as the market oriented economy marches forward.
The problem only comes when they try to use the power of the state to force everyone to collectivize. This is always going to be a threat as long as there is a state. Im a capitalist but more importantly Im antistate. I dont really give a fuck if people want to starve themselves in a commune. Just leave me the fuck out of it
>>69729924
>fuck you, you shouldn't be allowed to pass things on to your kids!
Now that's rotten.
>>69730676
> 80,000 pages of government regulations
> government-controlled money supply
> government-controlled interest rates
> capitalist society
Choose one.
>>69724902
>tfw this is who we "won" the cold war against
way to go for us?
>>69730319
Please tell me how I'm deflecting reality.
Are you disputing the fact that one-third of all food is wasted?
Are you disputing the well-documented historical trend of famines being caused by large populations being denied food produced in their own land? This happened in Ireland and India during British rule, in Ukraine during Bolshevik rule, in China during Han Dynasty rule, ect.
And today, in many of the places where starvation is prevalent food is still exported to the first world.
>>69730556
Also it's funny how you lefties try to shit on white ethnocentrism, while supporting ethnocentrism for every other race.
White liberals are the only ones that actually beleive in that bullshit. Mexicans and blacks often hate each-other more than they do whites.
