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I think all should be shot
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>>69714527
byproduct of capitalisam
you can't and you don't have to
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>>69714527
communism
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Draft them. Same with prisoners.
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>>69714654
>if everyone is poor noone is
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>>69714527
By ending the homeless desu senpai ^_^
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better mental health care
basic income which scales with cost of living
government employees whose job it is to take care of crazy people full time (unfortunate but necessary)
eugenics and sterilization
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Make it illegal to sleep/sit on the streets/sidewalks.

Fuck those fags pretending to be homeless. 90% of them are panhandlers and they're too lazy and deadbeat to get a real job so they sit on the sidewalk swaying and pretending to be crazy to get a couple of bucks from dumb bleeding heart tourists.

I live in Toronto and there's so many underground parking lots and underground tunnels a homeless person can comfortably sleep and live, and yet here they are crowding our sidewalks with crybaby signs asking for charity.

There's a regular panhandler shithead I see near my office that I see every morning when I go to work, and I've seen that guy on the weekend further north near Eaton Centre Mall in normal clothes buying himself a Starbucks coffee.

Seriously, fuck the homeless. There are job centres and community housing projects that will take you in and give you jobs. No homeless person is trapped. They are just lazy moochers. Don't be fooled by the libs.
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>>69714826
every one has a home, food, work and medical care
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>>69714527
Put them to work as public works. They originally want to live outside, on the street, around the city? Then allow them to clean it up, work each day cleaning up, making the place looking nice. Give them housing and food for their trouble. With those skills they learn and experience, they have the potential to start their own business from it. There is nothing wrong with having a landscaping company and making your city look lovely.

Problem solved.
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Solyent Green
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gas chambers.
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Get them a job. Bullets are cheap though.
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>>69714826
every one has a home, food, work and medical care
there are no poor people, there are only no rich people
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Automatic job in the military for less pay. /fixed
There's gotta be something they can do.
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>>69714527
Let law enforcement go back to the good old days when they could beat them.
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>>69714527
Tax working people at 60% use the money to build houses for everyone who doesnt have one.
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>>69714836
STEALTHY RARE
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>>69714791
This. Service in reserves on weekends at least should be mandatory for any sort of assistance, welfare and such. Lazy fucks and their gibs.
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>>69715015
but they're never gonna be anything more, just generally poor forever and ever
I'm guessing you have low self esteem to think it's a good thing
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>>69714527
grind up the poor people into various meat stews, freeze that stew

feed that stew to those who have houses, yet are regularly hungry

let it be known that homelessness will get you ground up and turned to stew

no hungry people, no homeless people
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>>69715166
i think you are young and belive the american dream where everyone can become rich.
lets talk again when you realize thats only a dream and you poor and work hard for just staying alive.
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>>69714950
I know lazy people who have jobs and are somewhat functional or were homeless and are now functional. Homeless who've been homeless for years and years are their own breed. There is a reason for them being homeless.
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>>69714791
>>69715042
Most homeless people are mentally ill. They'd be rejected by the millitary.

The solution is better mental health care and a better economy.
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I live in Hawaii, the USA's capital for homeless. We don't have any vagrancy laws beyond basic trepassing regulations. Most homeless you see on the street aren't most homeless actually. Usually the financially disadvantaged move to shelters or live in their cars. The street homeless are A. Drug Addicted B. Mentally Ill and/or C. Criminals. They don't want to live in shelters because there are rules.
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>>69714527


62,619 homeless veterans in the United States of America.

Are you sure, you want them killed off?
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>>69715298
you mean you're poor and you have to work hard
doesn't mean everyone has to be all sad and pathetic like you
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>>69715261
Ah, Akutagawa Ryuunosuke's Kappa.
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>>69714527
restrict welfare, so black people don't get complacent in the projects. thus, they actually work, get wealthier, move out of the projects, leaving space for people who really need that housing (the homeless)
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>>69715510
A lot of veterans who were chaptered out were for drug addiction or mental illness.
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>>69714975
So does everyone in prison
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State / Fed run farming communities.

Guaranteed work, housing provided (build your own mud hut) Minimum wage, food credits provided through working hours. Overall benefit to society.
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>>69714527
realise that most of them are mentaly ill
revolutionalise mental health care
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>>69714982
This is really the best answer. Give them food and shelter in exchange for work. If they refuse to work, they're just gonna have to go someplace else until they get the message.
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There's thousands of empty homes in the US. And many more second homes which should be requisitioned.
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Whats with all the
>muh mental healthcare

In the US we have some of the best mental healthcare available. Then jerkoffs say there should be greater access to mental healthcare. There are no barriers to mental healthcare other than paying for it.

I think the real question is how do we solve people demanding others pay for goods and services when there is no expected benefit?

>war on drugs is wasteful spending, but we should dump money onto mentally incompetent.

The crazies and retarded used to be locked up in asylums. They were cared for and confined out of society.
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>>69714527
You don’t really. You can create a public space for them all to get together and make bum cities if there are enough in a city. Or you could make them into pot dwelling entertainers. Tipping them for stories and philosophy. Most however seem to choose the life rather than it choose them.
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>>69714581
>>69714950
Great solutions

>>69714975
This is not a great solution. Economy cannot grow unless we cull those who exploit it as it is.
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They are as responsible for being homeless as someone is as responsible for having a job. If the government makes someone homeless and are somehow liable for personal responsibility than forfeit your weekly check to them because they are liable for your choices there as well.
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>>69716103
So, you want to rob people of their property they worked hard to get, and just give it away to other people? Just because people aren't using their own property the way you think it should be used?

That's stealing. You can call it communism as an ideology, but its stealing. Just try that in the US where we are guaranteed being secure in our property.

fucking communists. It really is going to come down to the US being the last free place on earth, and that's going to be a long ass fight.
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>>69716261
Back before Reagan if there was a mentally ill person who was brought in for loitering then the cops would ship them off to a mental institute. These days, since Reagan imploded the public mental health facilities, they are often released back on the street within 24 hours.
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>>69716313
Diogenes was an alpha who lived on the street for lulz. Not because he was dumb or mentally ill.
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I was homeless for a year. AMA.
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>>69716918
I have come across some legit homeless people. As far as the mentally ill they used to be treated with more respect and left to wander. Now people want everything wrapped in bubble wrap.
“Madness is a gift from the gods” -Plato
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>>69717052
are you hot
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>>69715621
there are about 22 Million veterans
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>>69717052

Can you just do crimes and hope to go into jail or prison for free food, shelter, warmth?
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>>69714527
Change the system. Start with education, for real leave no child behind.

Then a program against long term unemployment.

And lastly welfare for those who still fall through the cracks.

We have very few homeless in Getmany, somewhere in the 0.05% range and even they can have homes if they ask.
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>>69717318
No.

>>69717420
I could have but then my entire future would be ruined and I'd never have a chance to accomplish anything. Also, people like me don't do well in prison.

>>69717438
You were lucky enough to have a majority white population so those programs won't work well within the next 10 years. For the same reason, those type of programs won't work in America.
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Force billionaires to hire them at $25 an hour in exchange the employee will tattoo adds on them and stand at freeway on and off ramps
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arm them
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>>69717747
We are still a 96 percent white country. And in 10 years we might be 95 percent white. A lot of non-whites are eager to take on German culture and ethics. I doubt we will end up with a broken system.
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>>69717747
>, those type of programs won't work in America.

becouse of spending 1000 billions into military every year. Spend this money into education science and welfare and america will be great again.
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>>69714869
>>69715350
>>69715621
>>69715940
>>69716261
Pic related
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>>69718081
Well somewhat at least
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We need to help them psychologically. Just a center that holds them for like a month, gives them showers, help them apply for jobs, look for a place to rent. The center can have professionals that determine if you need more serious care. This all sounds expensive though and I sure as hell don't want to pay for it.

Just sticking them in homes won't do any good if they can't control their life.
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>>69716547
Heh old friend...
I must disagree... they deserve anotger chance if you can afford it without detriment.
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Homelessness in itself isnt a problem. It becomes a problem when they contribute nothing to society yet they receive food stamps or welfare.
But i dont see how homeless is a problem if they dont receive welfare or food stamps. That means theyre even. They dont pay taxes and dont receive tax money so there is no reason to complain.
They will most likely play music or panhandle for money, but thats completely fine. Theyre not forcing you to give him money. Those who donate to the homeless personally made that decision, as opposed to taxpayers. Aggresive panhandling is wrong though, that needs to be illegal.

So homelessness isnt the problem. Iy becomes a problem if they leech from society while giving nothing in return. But that can be said about so many other people who arent homeless.
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>>69718077
I love how germany and other euros act all pompish as if the social systems they enjoy aren't directly supported by the defense money they save through our military protection
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>>69718077
We spend that much money so you don't have to, you weevil. fuck i hate germans.
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>>69718791
Sucks to be you
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>>69718553

It is a problem because it will negatively affect property values and economy growth rates. Nobody wants to move in when there is bums outside your door.
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>>69714791
Most homeless in the US have a mental illness or some severe drug addiction.

>>69714527
The problem is that in order to solve the homeless problem, the program will end up looking like a slave/workers camp. You'll have to keep strict control to prevent drugs and alcohol flowing into the camps.

Even then, you'll have to isolate or remove disruptive individuals inside the camp leaving them homeless.
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>>69718997
Thats bullshit. People can go anywhere they want in public. You have nothing to say about what a bum does on property that isn't yours. If you feel like he's ruining your view or whatever you can ask him to leave but he can say no because it's not your property.
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>>69717363
There are about 50 thousand homeless veterans. If you can't get a job despite being a veteran, it means you've fucked up in a way they won't want to hire you.
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>>69718791

>defense
>terror attacks all over Europe
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>>69714527

Pic related, but by choice, mostly.
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>>69719379
That's when you call the city or the police and have them take away the person acting suspicious. Roads and sidewalks are for travel. Not for hanging out.
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>>69714581
>browsing 4 chan all die
>duuuh they are useless we should kill them

>mooom where's my hamburgeer
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>>69719420
The states wants to help defend you but if you're going to keep letting brown people waltz in there's not a lot we can do.
It's like adopting a dog that hates it's rear legs and chews it down to the bone. We can slap a big funnel collar on your continent but lots of people would be opposed to that.

Sort your shit out.
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>>69719810
die = day
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>>69714593
homelessness has been around long before capitalism.
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>>69714527
Turn them into mobile wifi hot spots.
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>>69714982
This. It would separate the men from the boys, for a lack of a better term. I do feel bad for some that actually had a string of bad things happen to them, but most are druggies and/or lazy. I've only met one cool homeless guy before, but the rest have been kind of moochers and/or jerks.
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>>69714950
>There are job centres and community housing projects that will take you in and give you jobs.
>has never been homeless

Yeah, it doesn't work like that.
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>>69716261
>There are no barriers to mental healthcare other than paying for it.

I can't believe this. It's really true what they say about americans. lol
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>>69719628
What are they gonna do, arrest them because you dont like what hes doing?
People can be anywhere in public. The police may search him for anything illegal but thats all they can do. If he's not on your property you have no reason to complain. You sound like a bitter old grandpa complaining about those damn kids outside.
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>>69716767
>you want to rob people of their property they inherited
ftfy

>Just try that in the US where we are guaranteed being secure in our property.

By who?
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>>69719379

Prices still go down. Half the sale is curb appeal and if you can see bums from the curb, the price will be lower
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>>69719853
What is canada gonna do lol
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>>69716261
>They were abused and confined out of society.

FTFY
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Lower taxes so people can spend their income on housing instead of socialism.
Subsidize building affordable housing.
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>>69719379
are you unaware of the word "Loitering"
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>>69714581

This is the only way. They will never be people who adapt to society, most choose their path. Just end it
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>>69720420
You know what he meant

so which is it, are you gonna bitch that we have a big military, or bitch that we don't have more of our military stationed in your country?

you gonna blame the refugee crisis on our political influence, or you gonna blame the attacks on a lack of our influence?
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build additional trailer parks
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Give them a house.

We have more vacant houses than homeless people.
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>>69718791
>>69718866
We don't want your money. You can GTFO

Protecting from who?
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>>69718553
>But that can be said about so many other people who arent homeless.

Such as yourself.
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>MFW a gorillion bums in Denver right now

And the weather is getting nice. Fuck.
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>>69720707

the vacant houses are not all cheap places. It would make more sense to give them to people with cheap places and have the cheap places go to the bums
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>>69714593
this. Not everyone can have a job. But for some reason the average person is blind to this tidbit.
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>>69720707
this is true

but, why would you let a homeless heroin addict who pisses themselves with alcohol every night into your brand new vacant home?

there would have to be tax breaks given to the homeowners

If not, it's just like the ol' democrat line "give me your money, you aren't using it! or at least not how I would" (to buy tv's and starbucks)
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>>69720379
Well thats bad luck then. There are no laws against being on the sidewalk for too long and thats a good thing because this isnt north korea.

Your house loses value if its next to a railroad too but theres nothing you can do about it. Deal with it.
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>>69716261
>There are no barriers to mental healthcare other than paying for it.
Have you read your post before posting?
Are you serious? The problem is those people can't fucking afford medical bills.
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>>69720936

You can deal with bums tho

Also there is laws against loitering in my state. Bums get picked up
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>>69720933
Oh vey anon! Give those homes to the Syrian rape.@#!! I mean refugees instead
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>>69714527
We await the return of the tree king, who will lead his people to a life in the trees.
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>>69714527
build more footpaths
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>>69714527
Corporatism, like Mussolini implemented.
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>>69720574
Just sitting on the sidewalk isnt loitering. The homeless have nowhere else to be so anywhere they go is technically loitering.
Whats about a guy in a suit sitting on a park bench, is that loitering too?

I feel like it all just comes down to appearance. You just dont want dirty looking people near your house.
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>>69714527
Just make cheap small homes with beds and no electrical outlets.
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>>69720734
Explain?
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>>69720116
>has never been homeless
Because I'm not a retard and I work a job and pay my bills on time.
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>>69717438
>We have very few homeless in Getmany, somewhere in the 0.05% range and even they can have homes if they ask.

thats a lie

http://www.bz-berlin.de/berliner-helden/berliner-obdachlose-ab-samstag-sind-wir-wieder-obdachlos
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Homeless are disgusting dirt people. The small change they scrape up is spent on booze and drugs. Their shanty tent homes are surrounded in garbage. They pass out face first in the mud next to crushed beer cans and covered in their own piss. They are not even trying and are a burden and eyesore to everyone. I lost all sympathy over the years.
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>>69721090
Like i said, you can ask him to leave but if he doesn't want to leave he doesn't have to. Because you have no control over his life. And the police can't send him away just because you don't like him, that would be completely biased.

You can be anywhere for however long you want. Just being somewhere doesn't make it loitering. Loitering is when illegal activity is suspected, for example gang activity.
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>>69714527
Only 1% of Homeless people stay homeless for more than a 3 month span.

Of that 1%, 99% are hooked on substances or mentally deranged beyond repair.

Statistically, the homeless problem is pretty well taken care of.
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>>69714527

Ban it.
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>>69722347
Story time

When I was in Jew York years ago I was riding the metro. We came to a stop at a station. It doesnt matter where.

There was a homeless man slipping on a bench. He was a white guy but he was covered in black filth he looked black. There was even a few mosquitoes flying over him. He looked like a sad cartoon character.

In Montreal we have a homeless problem, now more than ever it seems with the economy being shit. But funny enough most of our homeless don't ever look like the guy in New York. We take care of our homelessness to the point where they can get 3 meals a day, take a shower and a bed to get out of the cold.
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>>69721644

All fine and dandy until you realize 3/4 of them have mental health issues.

They're not regular people, they're just getting fucked by overly expensive Jewish psychiatry.
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>>69723052
This, works for guns.

Just put up a little "Homeless free zone" sign.
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>>69723298
Pedophiles have mental heath issues. That doesnt mean I have to feel bad for them when they are disgusting and drag society as a whole down.
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>>69723052
How would that fix it? You want to send them to jail where they get free shelter and free food (which you are going to pay for)? Or do you want to give them fines and make it even worse?

Flawless logic.
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>>69721629
Those are all druggies, leaches and other dindunuffins. They actually do not sleep in the open as the article says. They can get Hartz-IV and an appartment if they actuallt were ready to seek out a job.
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>>69723244
>our homeless people are cleaner than your homeless people

what a fucking loser
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>>69723244
Montreal is cleaner in general, you feel like you need a shower just walking in NY for 5 minutes.

I don't know why anyone where prefer to live inside of a concrete human hive.

I've seen hobos who own BMWs in America, so I guess that means Canada should make sure your hobos have BMWs like we do, after-all I did tell you an anecdote.

Also sorry that your your paper money is actually cents. May Maple Syrup and Hockey goals come to you outlander.
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>>69723556
>works for guns
Obviously not true. Europe is under attack and guns are banned here. So now the bad guys have guns and we cant do anything to defend ourselves. Banning guns makes no sense because people who are going to abuse them will be able to get guns anyway through the illegal gun market. Same goes for drugs and same goes for homelessness.
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>>69714527
Feed them to each other
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>>69724236
You forgot the important parts, a little sign that says "gun free zone" and a sarcasm detector.
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>>69714527
Better education in general with more emphasis on life skills and understanding how the system operates. A return to the stability of a 2 parent household with traditional gender roles leading to better upbringings for children. Place more cultural praise on knowledge, strength, and achievement. Keep women on a short leash and certainly don't allow them to vote on anything important..
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>>69724072
>Also sorry that your your paper money is actually cents. May Maple Syrup and Hockey goals come to you outlander.
While our dollar has lost value we have other forms of currency. Not to mention we provide a lot of hydro electricity to your poor coal burning asses.
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>>69725133
How's your looney toonies doin'?
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>>69717052
No fuck of Stephen
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We`re almost where we were 10 years ago.
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>>69725133
Hey man stop flashing your ritzy Wegman's coupons around here!
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>>69714527
Build camps for them.
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Organise homeless combats live on tv
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>>69716261
>Some of the best mental healthcare
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>>69714527
Round up and bullet to the back of the head.
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