"What had once been an alleged ideal is now a ragged skeleton rattling like a scarecrow in the wind over the whole world, but men lack the courage to glance up and to discover the grinning skull under the bloody rags. That skeleton is socialism."
>>69713145
Ayn Rand was intellectually bankrupt, her books are trash, and she had a rape fetish. If you like Ayn Rand and are over 21 years of age, I don't know what to tell you other than "you're a faggot."
>>69713486
No actual counterpoint just ad homs and bitching.
>this is why I love Rand
You must be in college
>>69713145
>>69713602
>on pol
>liking ayn rand
kill yourself
>>69713602
Ok how about the fact that she was a complete hypocrite that decried things such as social security and medicare before living off them herself for many many years. Ayn Rand is a trash Jewess
>>69713486
> acknowledges strong, proud white men should be in power
> acknowledges both men and women are far happier and more fulfilled with a strong man leading
> "intellectually bankrupt"
Fuck off, kike.
>>69713786
This summarizes Transcendence (a roguelike inspired space RPG) eerily well.
e-everybody who is successful literally grew up from the dirt, a-all g-good workers love working for their bosses. E-everybody who loves socialism is just an upper class champagne socialist. L-look how my fictional, stereotypical characters come to life right on the page
>>69713786
rand hated ancaps
>>69713985
That's not hypocrisy you clown. She was a taxpayer who paid into those systems. You don't have to renounce every benefit of a system to condemn it. It's dumb to say you can't be socialist if you've ever purchased something, and it's dumb to say this.
>>69713985
Govt stole money from her, her entire life. At the end she gets some of it back. Where is the hypocrisy?
>>69713940
She's right though
>>69714241
> E-everybody who loves socialism is just an upper class champagne socialist.
That's not true? That sounds pretty dead on me, at least in the western world. Socialists are obsessed with how comically ineffective they are with anyone who isn't an academic.
>>69714605
in the latest Irish election, the only socialists who got voted in ran in working class areas
in britain, the working class areas vote for the most left-leaning parties. Same with many other countries
>at least in the western world
you mean the USA, and that you don't know a thing about any other Western nation
>>69714001
Rand was a jewess. She was simply trying to justify jewish domination of the economy via banking. The fact that many white men have been inspired to fight for the rights of rich jews after reading her books shows just how successful she was.
>>69714971
> "socialist"
> voted in
> Ireland
Sorry, I thought I said "socialism." Not pretend social democrats that real socialists largely despise. As in, abolishment of private ownership and control of property. Not slightly more welfare.
>>69713486
Ayn Rand is the only intellectual to ever live. All others are phonies. All books that aren't written by her are pure trash. If you don't like her you're a faggot.
>>69713985
You're pure trash. She had lung cancer, you don't use the fact that someone had cancer to go against them. You're absolutely disgusting.
>>69715412
>state socialism doesn't exist
the AAA-PBP are Trotsky supporters
have you never heard of a single socialist country, you gibbering baboon?
>>69715412
Social Democrats are extreme socialists. Canada has never had a non-socialist prime minister and from my understanding Ireland is more left wing.
>>69715428
>>69715592
Brilliant baitposting there Trudeau
>>69715670
You're being blocked for trolling btw.
>>69713486
Ilove the way rand makes you moochers and looters so buttbothered
it would make me want to read atlas shrugged, just to see what got you so upset
wht is it that upsets yo so much about a book? faggot
>>69713940
no counter argument? wew
>>69715412
Ireland voted in several literal Trotskyists. Labour did crap.
>>69715845
Ayn Rand valued productiveness. What these leechers lack.
>>69714241
look at me being a socialist, aren't I good everyone, HURRRR
potatoes
>>69715891
Because he's baiting and everyone knows it.
>>69715643
>Social Democrats are extreme socialists
>>69716029
Rand's ideology is absurd utopianism, just like Marxism
>>69715135
all jews are bad? wht do you make of bobby fischer?
>>69715592
rules of politeness, even laws, aren't considered to apply to leftist fuckers
because they are a bunch of cunts
>>69715981
but they CAAAAARE !!! faggots
>>69716128
You've already been identified as a troll. I'm not responding anymore.
>>69716308
how so?
>>69715623
> Politicians "support" something, must be true.
> Can think of dozen countries off top of head that have huge or even official "socialist" presence that do effectively nothing to reverse or even slow capitalist participation in world economy or domestically.
No country has ever existed that has abolished private ownership or control of property, let alone the obliteration of all forms of hierarchy and the concept of value as many socialists claim is also necessary. I don't there's been one that has so much as abolished wage labor.
So no, I've never heard of one. Neither have you.
>>69716308
MUST RESIST BAIT
>>69716322
Exactly! Leftists love political correctness yet they mock someone because they died of cancer.
>>69715135
She was against the Federal Reserve
>>69716128
This is obscure
>>69716449
>Exactly! Leftists love political correctness yet they mock someone because they died of cancer.
they don't practice what they preach, the epitome of hypocracy
100% agree with everything she has ever said. Leftist hate for her only makes me love her more.
>>69716367
My country's a socialist country and always has been. Until a country abolishes all government it's a socialist state.
>>69713486
What woman doesn't have a rape fettish you fucking autistic virgin?
>>69716449
It's not bait. It's a commonly known fact both within and outside /pol/ that Rand shills are normally autistic 14-19 year olds who probably would have fallen for marxism had they been born 100 years ago
>>69714441
Wew lad. Trotskyite detected
>>69716618
>you
>>69716599
Same except I don't agree with free-trade which she supported.
>>69716599
>Everyone who criticizes Rand is a leftist
Rand was pretty left wing herself. Believed in borderless society, anti-racism, degeneracy should be allowed etc.
>>69717025
>anti-racism
So right wingers are racist because they don't believe in affirmative action?
>degeneracy should be allowed
its leftist who think anything they dont like should be banned
>borderless
Government creates borders, Right wing is anti-government.
>>69717248
>Right wing is anti-government.
Rand is anti-government. Right wing does not mean anti-government, you should do some reading.
>>69717431
Try reading a book. Right wingers goal is to shrink the government.
>>69717688
>Strong military
>Strong borders
>Strong police
>Drug war
>""""""shrinking the government""""""
Fucking stupid brainwashed child, get off 4chan.
>>69718007
>Name 4 left wing ideas
>then put "shrinking the government" in quotes
You're so stupid and brainwashed, just get off 4chan
>>69718230
>Ideas that I don't like are left wing
So Trump and Cruz are left-wingers then?
If yes, discussion over, you're a lost cause.
>>69717025
>Believed in borderless society, anti-racism
This sounds like BS considering the fact she idolized Anglo and Germanic men. In any case I think it could be chocked up to the fact that she, like most people in her days, had no experience with third world hordes.
>>69718230
>Name 4 left wing ideas
>leftists want to enforce national borders, increase defense spending, and love the police
Dude what?
>>69713145
Socialism is the future.
>>69718344
>those ideas are right wing?
So Stalin is right wing? if you say yes then discussion is over.
>>69718364
She didn't idolize them and in her book she said she doesn't believe in boarders.
>>69718436
>Stalin didn't have a strong military
>Stalin didn't have strong police
>Stalin didn't have harsh drug penalties
>Stalin didn't have a strong border
Dude what?
>>69713940
>on pol
>not liking government dick so far up your ass that you might have suppressed democrat tendencies
FTFY
>>69718581
>>69718686
>Hurrr all of Stalin's policies must by default be left wing
>>69718946
>hurr of all Ted Cruz's policies must be right wing by default
Nice autism bud
>>69718686
>arbitrarily defining left and right wing in order to win an internet argument at the outset
Ah to be 15 again. Also, the fact remains that by your logic every single conservative party in the west is actually leftist, which is a fucking stupid idea.
>>69719090
I'm defining it by what they are. Besides you're the anti-semite here making fun of Rand for being a Jew.
>>69719309
You type like a 15 year old who's just read Atlas Shrugged.
Go and look up the definitions of left wing and right wing.
>>69713940
shed change those views given todays circumstances
>>69719488
Go read "Capitalism the Unknown Ideal" by Ayn Rand, and it will tell you the definitions of left and right.
>>69713486
>literally no criticism other than "postmodernists hate her so she's discredited!"
Classic Rand-haters everyone.
Let's consider how redpilled Ayn Rand was.
>hated mudslimes
>hated degeneracy
>hated feminism
>hated socialism
>hated cultural relativism
>hated environmentalism
>hated the welfare state
>was against judging people aside from their character, but acknowledged how awful shitty cultures were
How the fuck does /pol/ hate Ayn Rand besides MUH JEWESS?
>>69718447
>>69719901
sure its totally not
>>69719762
It will tell me Ayn Rand's definitions, surprise surprise a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Is Ayn Rand your only source of knowledge? That makes a lot of sense.
>>69719872
She hated everything except people who took what they wanted for themselves. It's basically Nietzsche but for barely literate teenagers.
>>69719872
She seems p good so far desu.
>>69719872
Except they're complete opposites. Nietzsche didn't believe in morality and Ayn Rand believed in a rigid morality. Selfishness is about happiness, self-esteem, reason, love, etc.
Based Rand.
The original Trump supporter.
To this day, it's still the best pleb filter in the world. Anyone that hates Rand or Atlas Shrugged, I send straight to the trash.
>>69719872
>Having to make up things that Ayn Rand """hated""" to try and get /pol/ on your side
>Even though her system fully allows most of them, regardless of her personal opinions
>>69720230
Yeah, Trump is very anti-government just like Rand.
>>69720242
Her system allows for people to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't violate the rights of anyone else, so of course people can do what they want. Productive, rational individuals don't need to care about degeneracy, Islam, evil, etc in a proper government because it's the government's job to protect individuals from evil such as that.
t. Long-term Objectivist deeply involved in the movement, so none of this is made up.
>>69720191
Meant for >>69720053
>>69720045
so cucked you haven't even read atlas shrugged, but yo uhave an opinion on it?
isn't that wierd, you haven't checked for yourself, you just accept other peoples opinions as fact
retarded
>>69713486
the more liberals try and shit on her work, the more they vindicate it you stupid kike
>>69719988
What are you trying to say, chocolate thunder?
That it is the future? Sadly youre probably right.
>>69720698
>so cucked you haven't even read atlas shrugged
Is this the new criteria for determining whether someone is cucked or not?
It's hilarious how you assume that had I read Atlas Shrugged I would instantly become a brainwashed Ayn Rand shill. Just shows how your mind works, you accept everything you read.
The irony is, I have actually read Atlas Shrugged, of all her books. It's the first and probably the last Rand book I'll read however.
>>69713145
From what I recall, isn't she one of originators of the whole "there is no society, just individuals" meme that got shoved down the collective throat of the west during the 80s?
>>69713145
Dumb ugly bitch
Look how pleased she is she owns a typewriter
>>69721081
How could it be the first and last Ayn Rand book you'd read, if you said you've read all of her books?
>>69721837
I didn't say I'd read all of her books, silly.
It's the only book I've read out of all of them.
Keep trying to nitpick, and failing though.
>>69717248
>tfw Canada is actually being based and not shilling for Socialism.
>>69713145
GIMME MY SOCIAL SECURITY!!!
>>69717688
You're an idiot. Read about patriot act. About harper's c-51. About why the dems are jackasses and the big fatty republicans are elephants. Stupid zionist
>>69721837
1) Read book A.
2) Read books {B thru ....N}
3) Read book A again.
There, next dumbass question?
>>69713985
Still no logical counter point.
Can't into ration self interest I see. You pay into a system you expect a return faggot.
>>69713940
She's not wrong bum tickler
>>69721837
Lrn2English
>>69713145
[INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY INTENSIFIES]
>>69723858
>EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FREE BECAUSE I DONT FEEL LIKE PAYING FOR IT
Who's the jew, here?
