Can we all agree that there is nothing wrong with materialism?
The things you own, end up owning you
>>69699018
There's a difference between enjoying the fruits of your labor and conspicuous consumption.
>>69699018
If that's how you want to live life, why not?
I WANT YOU TO (YOU) ME AS HARD AS YOU CAN
>>69699257
To bad that wasn't the first post. Because it's the best post
>>69699018
No, we really can't. But we all know materialists have a mental disorder and feel empty inside. They torture themselves enough.
>>69699165
I hope everyone takes that movie literally. Less competition for me.
>>69699388
Checked. And (You)'d
>>69699018
The problem is that all those expensive things aren't worth the price that people pay for them.
>>69699458
Not all people are broke, anon.
>>69699018
As long as you don't put money before family, and don't comit crimes, it's all good.
>>69699018
It's fine, people should do what they want to with their money. It's funny to laugh at the jealous retards with no emotional maturity flip out when they see someone more successful than themselves
I agree. Of course everyone everyone should have a cushion, but what's the point of having a ton of money and not spending at least some of it? I've read that spending on experiences, like traveling or whatever, is better than objects though suposedly.
>>69699018
Wrong. Excessive attachments are a major liability.
>>69699018
You mean "materialism: the desire for more and more stuff" or "materialism: the metaphysical position"?
>>69699388
Nice
>this guy engaging in voluntary transactions with his own money offends me, please somebody stop him!
You're free to criticize him, though.
>>69699437
Unless you haven't noticed, money is a leash. Very few are capable of breaking it. Your odds aren't great.
Most of people are prone to materialism, however most of those people are idiots.
Day after day, even though I find it hard to accept and very repulsive, I realize aristocracy is literally the only sane government in respect to society as whole.
Plebs can't vote for shit, and if anything experience of past decades has shown us they won't really get smarter.
>>69699798
So is having kids.
Buying stuff doesn't bring me happiness
>>69699985
And that's why your society will perish. Of course, you don't really care about that do you?
>>69699018
Just look at this stack of dollars.
I bet you wish you had a stack of dollars.
>>69699638
Not all are stupid, either.
>>69700145
Elaborate.
>>69699018
There isn't.
Why would anyone give a fuck how others spend their money?
Shit, you just reminded me that I was going to buy a snubby Rhino...
>>69700300
caring less about children makes less children? less children makes no next generations
>>69699985
Keyword is excessive. I view materialism through relativity. Not everyone is capable of handling the burden. You asked for things that could be considered problems. You make yourself look stupid by failing to look at things carefully.
>Norway shitposting
Not everyone gets that refugee check, Achmed.
>>69700300
Do I really need to?
How are kids ''liability"? In absolute sense yes, but in reality kids are future of society.
Of course if you observe things only on individual level, that doesn't matter. But in reality that's not natural state of human being, human beings are social creatures, happiness is balancing between collectivism and individualism.
West is going the way of individualism. Individualism is death of society.
Death of society is the death of it's members, in effect.
>>69700491
Materialism is what you have left when you value nothing in your life. No goals.
Upon death you shall be rewarded with a ocean of regret when your silicon tits fall off or your ferrari goes to someone else.
Having shit for the sake of having = True pleb.
All is dust, all is death in the end.
>>69699919
To stay within your metaphor - my leash is so long that I won't notice it unless I absolutely want to and it's getting longer every day. Enjoy chafing at yours.
>>69699018
There is obviously a lot wrong with it, since Americans aren't happy at all, they constantly need to get high with drugs, alcohol, food or coffee to survive their pathetic capitalistic lives and have a reason for it. Materialism should be limited and USA needs to put on chains and slave labour to find a reason to live and appreciate materialism again. First you need to appreciate humanity of your friends and family to truly grasp the materialism fun time.
“Blessed are you who are poor,
for yours is the kingdom of God.
Blessed are you who hunger now,
for you will be satisfied.
Blessed are you who weep now,
for you will laugh.
Blessed are you when people hate you,
when they exclude you and insult you
and reject your name as evil,
because of the Son of Man.”
“But woe to you who are rich,
for you have already received your comfort.
Woe to you who are well fed now,
for you will go hungry.
Woe to you who laugh now,
for you will mourn and weep.
Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you,
for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.”
>>69700640
World population is growing.
>>69699018 (you)
>>69700640
I completely agree, you're one of the smarter people on this board. Keep spreading the truth.
Materialism is the golden bull and the demon god currently ruining the world. There is a difference between materialism and being rich or living comfortably. Greed is cancer. Fuck OP and the rest of the faggots in this thread espousing this Gordon Gekko bullshit
>>69700816
only niggers are, not Norwegians
>>69700816
Western birth rates are declining.
>>69700938
Completely wrong. Educate yourself.
>>69700736
spoken like a true Portuguese, caralho!
Materialism is just another way to fill the void - I can't blame people for choosing it over religion or alcohol.
Is there such thing as materialism that focuses 100% in functionality?
>>69701009
Your immigrants are fixing your birthrates, not the natives
>>69701009
Compare European birth rates to African birth rates
>>69701165
Nope. Post one credible source instead of projecting your fantasy.
there are lengths.
buying an iphone and keeping for 3-4 years is fine.
spending thousands on a shiny rock isn't however.
>>69700816
Are you dumb or something? I'm specifically talking about Western, or in this case Norwegian society. How does it affect you that Nigerians are growing in number?
I don't know if you're trolling or not, but you'll wake up one day and realize your life is totally wasted. You did nothing. All you created is false.
You can't run away from your nature, you can try but the farther you go the more it will hurt in the end.
>>69701251
both are falling
>>69700736
tell me, what are good goals to have?
you who denigrate the attachment of materialism -- tell me, are you not attached to your own moral superiority?
This is how you know /pol/ is a watering hole for inbred retards of all shapes and sizes.
When they refer to Materialism as having as many materials and items in one's possesion as opposed to the philosophical idea that everything in this world exists because of material properties.
>>69700795
"The meek shall inherit the earth"
What did he mean by this?
It's not necessarily wrong, but it wont make you feel fulfilled either.
>>69701303
Buying an iphone is retarded no matter the way you want to see it
>>69701388
niggers
>>69699018
Materialism is good.
>>69699257
t. liberal
>>69701314
lol
This board sometimes.....
>>69699638
>rich people spending money on things that aren't assets
it's like they hate money or something
>>69701466
That's arguable, it's a functional toy for people more interested in status symbols than technology.
>>69699018
We must amass wealth and resources to counter the jews'
>>69701287
I checked and you are right, sorry. I assumed it was the same as in the rest of the West.
Why are your native birthrates increasing?
>>69701314
You have issues..... Take your doomsday idea somewhere else.
>>69701380
There are many good goals, point is moderation.
''I'll just dedicate myself to family'' makes you unhappy.
"I'll just dedicate myself to earning money'' makes you even more unhappier.
Western society as whole is sliding into what Roman society (or Roman upper classes) fell into. Total apathy and materialism.
In the end battle of Romans against barbarians was Germans in Roman uniforms against other Germans.
>Not investing in enjoyable hobbies and commodities
Kek. I'm 22 and I spend so much fucking money.
>>69701962
Everyone has some issues. But in this case I am right, and you'll live to see what I'm talking about.
>>69701956
We have very good looking people.
>>69702101
I used to spend most of my money when I was 22 as well. Then I started to save when I hit 30. If only I had been a bit more thrifty, I could have retired by now.
>>69699018
That isn't what materialism means.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism
You posted an example of consumerism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumerism
>>69702289
So does Sweden.
>>69699018
Degeneracy promoted by jews.
Is this what /pol/'s like? Take something that everyone can agree is wrong and pretend like it's right?
>>69702499
Not so many nigers tho
>>69699985
Your comment sums up everything that is is what's wrong with White coutnries
>>69699018
I'm honestly more triggered by the fact the cunt has a shitty tattoo than the fact she has three rolexes (implying those are her rolexes and not her boyfriend's).
Money can't buy sense I guess.
>>69702651
How is it wrong? It's their money.
>Bolivia
Oh, I see.
>>69702499
>>69702565
>>69702402
I was actually referring to materialism. Thread is ruined now.
>>69702655
Yea but we are talking about natives.
>>69701956
SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS
>>69702782
It's literally, actually not. It's the government's money.
>>69702784
>materialism
Well than you're fucking stupid, it doesn't take much thought to realize there is more to life than just what's in front of your face
>>69702651
It might be trashy and degenerate but I dont really give a fuck
>>69703064
Materialism doesn't imply otherwise. Read up.
>>69699018
>Guy has a nice car
>Oh no the horror
Leftists all need to be thrown from Helicopters
>>69703045
and the citizens are literally, actually the government. checkmate
>>69699388
(you)
as kek demands us of dubs.
mementhians 4:20
>>69703299
No
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism
>Materialism is a form of philosophical monism which holds that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all phenomena, including mental phenomena and consciousness, are results of material interactions.
>>69703618
consumerism is a form of materialism
the people in the op pic are clearly materialists
>>69699018
If the price seems reasonable and the product offers me a comfier life, yes.
>>69703563
Wait, are Americans actually this deluded?
>>69703803
what is a republic?
>>69703789
Consumerism has nothing to do with materialism. All this takes is 30 seconds of reading to figure out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumerism
>Consumerism as a social and economic order and ideology encourages the acquisition of goods and services in ever-increasing amounts.
Are they mutually exclusive? no
Are they different concepts? yes
>>69703618
>???
>>69704059
if you are anti materialistic why would you care about material goods?
>>69699388
(you)
>>69704353
Materialism is a philosophy that rejects spiritualism. It doesn't mean
>durr durr buy more shit
You're still talking about consumerism
My goodness, you people don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you should've paid attention in high school philosophy kiddo
Good for the economy, bad for the soul
Speaking of s(e)oul, look at South Korea, one of the poorest countries after WW2, they adopt a capitalist system that is almost entirely based on just average people buying things, now they enjoy relative prosperity
>>69704654
Read more on it. It doesn't polarize it the way you want it too.
>>69701636
>never spend any of your money, let it sit in a bank account and be useless
>>69699018
It erodes the human condition, and furthermore distances us from what it means to be human.
>materialism
>Work in shipping
>Supervisor has QT wife 9/10 easily
>he's almost 40 years old
>Supervisor tells me one day they divorced after 10 years of marriage
>She wanted to have a kid, he didn't
>Ask him why he didn't wnat to have kids
>Explains how it's too expensive, won't have money for toys.
>She moves on, ends up getting with some random dude
>Has kids with him
>Supervisor is obviously triggered when he finds out
>Tells me how he dodged a bullet by having a divorce
>Comes to work everyday with a new toy, oculus rift, gadgets, etc
Nothing wrong with materialism op, but you must prioritize life. If you are going to surround yourself with trinkets, at least dont be a cuck like my friend over here.
imo degenerate
>>69705305
That's consumerism you fucking cuck. I hate this thread, you're all fucking stupid
>>69704654
>>durr durr buy more shit
I never said being materialistic makes you believe in consumerism
I said if you believed in consumerism you were materialistic
>>69705647
fair enough anon, but he fits that description as well, imo even more than consumerism.
well blacks are the most materialistic race what with their "ice" and "rangs" and hoverboards and other frivolties. So all you guys saying materialism is good are a bunch of nigger loving cucks
>>69699018
I just don't understand materialism. Like I get the point of having a nice car because they're enjoyable to drive but some people get themselves the bimmer just the have the bimmer logo for example. I don't get the appeal of buying stuff for status or following trends or any of that shit. The hell is the difference between different brands of watches for example, you can have one that's really comfy and matches what you wear and tells the time , does anything matter besides that?
>>69701380
The good goals to have in life? If you are asking a fellow human being what to look for, then you are looking in the wrong place. Goals, motives etc, are things for the individual to persue, anyone who prescribes a specific guide to life is most likely a charlatan.
Moral superiority? hardly. You'll eventually realize the folly of being obsessed with accumulating stuff like a caveman.
This isn't about being sacrilegious or morally superior, i'm not a religious person at all.
It's a fact of life. Materialism as at the root of allot shit in this world, i don't advocate asceticism, but being consumed by material wealth alone is the worst rot that can befall your spirit. Having "stuff" isn't bad or evil, but caring about nothing but "stuff" is evil and could turn you into a bad person.
>>69701021
Obrigado fellow Alberto.
>>69701386
fucking leaf
>rent out sports cars, rolexes, and empty champagne bottles for a day
>take pictures with them and put them on the internet
>feel satisfied with my fake life
