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why do protestants work so much better than catholics?

Ive read the Weber book but his explanation seems pretty sketchy (smth with calvinism apparently)...whats the reason for protestant countries to be so much stronger economically and have a "made in X" reputation while catholics dominate in fine food etc?
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>Finland
>Strong economically
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>>69678264
>Strong economically

question is - compared to who?
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>>69678063

The Protestant Ethic.

Catholics are more charitable, more about giving tithes to the poor. More about generosity.

Protestants in many ways stemmed from a group of people who were sick and tired of being told that they had to pay money to clear their sins. It's funny, because they argue that salvation doesn't come through giving material things to the Church, which is true.

But then they turn around and want to selfishly keep more of their material things even though that's arguably not what's important in this world.
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Protestants are the purest sons of Jesus. He didn't shut his mouth. He had balls and pointed fingers at the assholes around him.
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>>69678417
Literally anyone.
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>>69678063
>Protestant work ethic
Stealing the accumulated wealth of Catholics, when that money was squandered they sold out their people to Jews and Usury.

Protestants - NOT EVEN ONCE
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>>69678063
Both of this, protestantism and our economy ratings, come from us being Germanic.
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>>69678450
>Protestants are the purest sons of Jesus.

The difference between Protestants and Catholics.

Protestants use condoms, promote feminism, promote homosexuality in children, and murder the unborn.

BRAVO PROTESTANTS, BRAVO
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>>69678634
>protestantism
The same as steroids, when you stop using them, you eat small children for sustenance.
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>east Germany
>economic stability
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>>69678063
It was different throughout history

Spain and Portugal were rich when Germany and Scandinavia wasn't

Banks were created in Italy

Italy together with France set cultural trends for a long time and at least France was a wealthy country

Germany until Prussia emerged as a power was in decline

Now protestant countries are slowly weakening and degenerating, so in the future someone might ask "Why catholics are wealthier than protestants"?

Also I don't think lutheran Germans are the same as puritans, anglicans and calvinists in Britain
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>>69678712
what

the

fuck

is that picture going on about
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>>69678712
Meanwhile the Irish are just glorified niggers
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>>69678063
Catholics have families and a life, they don't live to work

Also

>ratings
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>>69678450
>He didn't shut his mouth. He had balls and pointed fingers at the assholes around him.

this desu, especially the last part. Jesus is such a cool guy.

>>69678430
>But then they turn around and want to selfishly keep more of their material things even though that's arguably not what's important in this world.

I wouldn be so simple since the culture of fine luxuries like clothing and fancy food is more of a catholic thing like France and Italy, while prot culture is more aout the middle class/working man.

For instance Italy can only produce extra crappy cars like Alfa Romeo and Fiat and extra luxurios and qualtiy ones like Ferrari, while Germany produce fantastic afforatble cars like VW Passat or Skoda. So it seems its more of a perspective on things.

>>69678712
realtiy check - catholic France is the birthplace of atheism, humanism, illuminati, and one of the first to go homo on marriage + it has the highest Muslim population in Europe so it leads in cuckoldfaggotry.
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Funny, our protestant area went to shit, and the catholic area is booming.
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Junk bonds had AAA ratings too before they crashed in 2008, just saying...
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>>69678922
Americans teach their kids to breed, promote their adults to degeneracy and sterility, put fattening agents in their food which is absorbed by the people.

Then promote this as progress.
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>>69679015
>Funny, our protestant area went to shit, and the catholic area is booming.

indeed, that is pretty interesting in Germany, plus its very interesting in support of fascism in ww2 which was mostly a catholic country phenomennon
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>>69679053
You don't need to teach kids to breed, they figure that part out themselves.

You'd have to teach kids not to breed, and saying "don't do it" just doesn't cut it.
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>>69678963
>realtiy check
France is the Bridgehead for revolution in Europe you stupid fucking retard
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>>69679220
Protestants = SELL OUTS
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>>69679299
Keep sucking on Franciskus cock
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isn't bavaria the richest german land?
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>>69678930
that's pretty edgy sun kun takanari
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>>69678063
Its not protestant ethics but aryan genetics.
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>>69679450
It is the Rhineland.
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>>69679540
>aryan

POO IN LOO
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There you go. Your whiteness in percents.
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>>69678063
The match is interesting, but more a sign of authoritarian or independent culture.

Independent means that you take responsibility to get things done. Getting forgiveness is easier than getting permission. In other countries you need to walk the chain of command before your idea is accepted.
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>>69679545
It's not the 50s anymore. The rhine area went to shit when it ran out of coal. Turns out that's not a sustainable economy.
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>>69679239
>Implying Ireland is more catholic than us

We didn't passively accepts the gay marriage unlike you.
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>>69678063
>S&P cuck rating
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>>69679694

They also didn't accept Sharia Law.
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>>69678264
Finland survives, and has good standards compared to many other countries.

You are stronger than you think, not because you have an excess of money but a will to fight and cooperate. Sisu.
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>>69678264

This is a measure of its ability to pay back loans.
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>>69678712
Pic of C-section birth, not abortion.
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>>69679644
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>>69679950
Yes, the child is so young she her hips have not parted, teaching children to have sex = children having sex.

Why are you so stupid you fucking turnip.
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>>69679977
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Hairyan Master Race.
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>>69679299
didn't they throw that traitor's corpse to thames?
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>>69678063
Protestants believed work was a way to honor god. Jobs became more specialized, individual wealth and freedom arose
Catholics believed church was first, if make money an amount needs to be earmarked to the church, you pray morning noon and night, you need to do business you go to church, you need to do something away from the church you're not a good Catholic

Tl;dr
Protestant, individualism
Catholics, collectivism

You can see this even in art, Catholic art for the public and always about the church
Protestant very personal, if god was there he was light or is some other metaphorical way.
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>>69680389
Nice Hollywood Jew propaganda you follow.

> Edward I's body was brought south, lying in state at Waltham Abbey, before being buried in Westminster Abbey on 27 October.[
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>>69679977
>>69680272
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>>69680478
>Protestants believed work was a way to honor god. Jobs became more specialized, individual wealth and freedom arose

yes, but what teaching from the Bible was that ispired from? or it was more about having your own Bible and learnign to read compared to being cucked under Vatican?
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>>69680574
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>>69678063
Prioritizing the future over present.
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>>69680615
Le cherry pick albino mongolians may may
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>catholics
pay for salvation
pray to mary
pray to saints
believe baptism is a requirement for salvation
grace by works
fake hierarchy
no marriage turns hierarchy into pedos
non-biblical tradition
idol worship
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>>69680588
It came from having you're own bible in your own language

Thanks to Guttenberg books were easy to make, since people can now own them they wanted them in there own language. Most people didn't understand latin even though they when to church and listen to Latin.

That new understanding that Catholics were adhering to the bible made people wish to break away.

Those same people were more into the individual view of the world, they had a tendency to question things for there own benefit.
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>>69680904
American Schizo Projection at its finest.
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>>69681009
I meant to say "Catholic were not adhering to the bible"
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>>69681026

fatewanmacgregor.jpg

Gleeson doesn't look like himself.
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>>69681109
>adhering
Protestants are red herring to the bible
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>>69681009
>It came from having you're own bible in your own language

+it was a basis for national identity movement compared to empires of the day
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>>69681154
>Protestants are red herring to the bible

u wot paddy,? prots know their Bible unlike catholic theology which isnt based exclusivly on the bible

also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhM7OUpJ64c
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>>69680904
you forgot
>had a female pope that was executed on the side of a road when she gave birth to a child
>elected three popes at the same time and all three excommunicated each other
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>>69681083
>Comparing America during the settlement period to modern USA
There is a difference in getting new people in to a country with plenty of livable land waiting to be improved and to a fully developed society.
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>>69679802
There is no charia law in France, the sharia patrols are in Belgium, Sweden and Britain.
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>>69681165
Yes, national identity too. People really stop trusting the pope and said the pope picked which prince who marry which princess and that system had no creditability cointries became there own entities.

Also nepotism was really bad and a lot of Catholic priest had their supposed nephews inherited a lot of property, power and wealth left to the church by nobles at the orders of the preists. People were really becoming pissed off
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>>69678063
Isn't southern Germany the most productive part of Germany and also pretty catholic?
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>>69678063

OP pic made me sad again...
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>>69681319
Catholics wrote the bible. Protestants took out parts they didn't like. The Catholic curch is the universal church founded by Jesus Christ, protestantism is not in union with the universal church and is heresy.
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>>69681426
Protestants are literally the people who the bible describes as the evil ones in Revelation.
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Protestants voted for Hitler.
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>>69678063
those ratings aren't worth shit, as seen pre-2008, the big four are yid tools for stealing value from the rest of the world
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>>69678063

"Why protestants adopt kikery and catholics don't"

Fixed.
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>>69680904
>Catholics and Orthodox got it wrong
>Protestants are the only one that got it right

Sure.
Which Protestant sect anyway? Since you guys created a lot of them
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>>69681694
daily reminder that hitler wasn't elected but appointed
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>>69681323
<the female pope is widely accepted as a myth
<the 3 popes were not elected so much as declared. Similar to how if I declare myself pope.
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>>69681694
The Black Shirts were Catholics, the Brown Shirts the mob.

Nazism was a Catholic response to Protestantism and its collision with the Jews.
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>>69681793
>Which Protestant sect anyway? Since you guys created a lot of them
Divide and Conquer.
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>>69678611

butthurt potato, go and find your national pride pls
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>>69681319
>their Bible

That's the problem, dozens of translations and thousands of memecults.
My preferite ones are the american evangelicals.
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>>69681622
kek nice reference at your delusionalpoint go kiss a Mary statues or do some other pagan/mexican bullshit

>>69681546
>Also nepotism was really bad and a lot of Catholic priest had their supposed nephews inherited a lot of property, power and wealth left to the church by nobles at the orders of the preists. People were really becoming pissed off

yeah it was bs, we had some sort of reformation in Croatia but the Vatican supressed it. Bible translation to Croatia was really a good thing to us, since in Austro-Hungarian Empire our identiy was surpressed.
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>>69681794
Daily reminder you're either ignorant or intentionally misleading in regards to how the election worked.
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>>69679977
Easy there buddy. Light hair includes light brown hair.
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>>69681893
>That's the problem, dozens of translations and thousands of memecults.

the only difference are 6 books in the OT, so do the spinning as much as you want.

Protestants were the ones who first gave the Bible to the plebs while Catholics burned every non-priest who was found owning a Bible.

Guttenberg, Luther, free bibles you recive in the street...all come from protestants. Bible reading (no matter what version) isnt even a thing in Catholic churches...
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>>69678712

> Waaah, stop preventing unwanted offspring and STDs!
> Waaah, get back in the kitchen!
> Waaah, God hates fags!
> Waah, let me control your body, even though I made it clear I'm against prevention!

Scummy catholics in a nutshell.
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>>69681902
>diss mary
>go as far as worshipping luther wife, a former nun

Dammit.
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>>69678063
>protestantism
> shit parts of Germany
Seems right
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>>69682191
Go murder some unborn children you fucking fraud.
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>>69681913
>intentionally misleading
wtf, I'm not supporting what he did, just stating the facts; was he or was he not appointed by hindenburg? Y/N
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>>69682252
>dissing mary
>being oposed to divinificationg of Mary

there is no honesty within idolworshipers
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>>69682301
He was appointed as a result of his party's election result. To say he wasn't elected is misleading. This is how it works in Germany - you don't exactly vote for candidates, but parties. However, those parties very much run their election around their chancellor candidates. These election posters literally say "Vote Hitler".
Hitler (like every other chancellor) was voted into power, the appointment by the president is a legal formality.
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>>69682131
Cambridge was literally founded and built by Catholics? WTF

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Cambridge
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>>69678063
Austria is AAA, I'm sure.
No cherrypicking!
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>>69682280

You're the kind of person who would keep tapeworms in your ass because "muh life!"
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>>69680560
I think he meant the evil Cromwell.
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>>69682191
Judging from this, it seems Norway is as damned as their forsaken neighbors.
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>>69682587
>tapeworms
kek, coming from you of all people,
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>>69681566
When Austria and Southern Germany cemented their industry, universities and culture they were overwhelmingly Protestant.

That, and they suffered comparatively less war damage and no occupation.
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>>69678063
Baden-Würtemberg and Bayern are the richest Länder and they are the most catholic parts of Germany

Easter Germany is atheist

Is Flanders not S&P AAA Rating?

Also
>spirit of capitalism
>scandinavia
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>>69678063
>A Croat that isn't a Catholic
How does it feel to be a shame of your country/family you degenerate?
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>>69682710
It's due to their proximity to here/Switzerland and their not being occupied during the Cold War.
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>>69682131
>Bible reading (no matter what version) isnt even a thing in Catholic churches...

Are you pic related?

Download any "La domenica" flyers and you get the bible passages with references and stuff of the week lithurgy.

This one is from 20th may.
http://www.santamariaassuntatessera.it/la_domenica.pdf
http://la-domenica.it/
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>>69680478
this is simply not true.
scandinavian countries are for more collectivist than e.g. Italy.
Weber had a profound impact on the social and economic sciences, but that doesn't make him infallible.
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>>69681902
>go kiss a Mary statues or do some other pagan/mexican bullshit
I thought you Croats worshipped Mary in a similar fashion
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>>69682913
He's a shame to his country.
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>>69682854
how delusioal can you get?

who was to first to distrubute the Bible all over the world?
Who was the first to translate it?

Who was opossed the translations?

>>69682913
>I thought you Croats worshipped Mary in a similar fashion

the popularity of the mentioned is a good indicator of the backwardness of the region
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>>69682913
>>69682993
He's an australian with a proxy.
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>>69683024
>who was to first to distrubute the Bible all over the world?
The Spanish.
>Who was the first to translate it?
The Romans from Greek, the Greek from Judean Hebrew.
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>>69680272
Well blondes are apparently somewhat smarter than other hair colors. ;-)

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/blonde-women-have-higher-iqs-than-brunettes-and-redheads-a3209616.html
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>>69683142
So he's a liar too.
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>>69682131
How can heretic even compete ??
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>>69683229
>brown hair men have the highest IQ
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>>69683248
Dunno, I tought he was semi-serious at first now he's just trying to be extra-edgy for (you)s.
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>>69678063
>whats the reason for protestant countries to be so much stronger economically and have a "made in X" reputation while catholics dominate in fine food etc?
Because one is germanic and the other one is latin.
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>>69678063
Finland isn't AAA anymore

http://www.treasuryfinland.fi/en-US/Economy_and_credit_ratings/Credit_ratings/Standard__Poors_affirms_Finlands_credit_%2856714%29
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>>69683201
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_Jesus
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Aramaic
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>>69683255
*kisses feet
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>>69683201
>The Spanish.

first to torture the owners of the bible in national langugages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhM7OUpJ64c

>ye shall know them by their works

>>69683255
*kisses statue
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>>69678922
On the left caesarean section on the right a fat man
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>>69683374
That's the word I was looking for, Aramaic.
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Can't we just get along for now and recognize that the Devil is doing what he can to foster this hatred?

Yes, we Catholics and you Protestants are different, and our issues with each other are likely to not be resolved any time soon. But let's work for the common good instead of all this prideful boasting.

Let us pray.

Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those that trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.
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>>69683461
>first to torture the owners of the bible in national langugages
Good. It should be in Latin, a peasant shouldn't know what's in the bible, they should learn Latin first.
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>>69678712
But living with your mom, and never being financially capable yourself of moving out will be fun, won't it Giovanni?
>ITT: Mad Catholicucks.
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>>69683546
>Good. It should be in Latin, a peasant shouldn't know what's in the bible, they should learn Latin first.

BEACUSE JESUS SPOKE LATIN HASNT HE??

YOU CURSED RETARDED IDIOT
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>>69683659
>The Croat doesn't understand Lingua Franca
Fucking retard, go get shot by Orthodox again.
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>>69683594
I have a MSc level of Education, I just had €10,000 worth of work done on my house and I drive a 161 car.
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>>69681694
I can't tell if /pol/ likes Hitler or not anymore
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>>69683755
Hitlers is Hitler.
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>>69683275
I missed the brownheads. Yeah they have higher IQ, but the difference between blonds and brunettes are not statistically significant.

Here's the study:

http://www.accessecon.com/Pubs/EB/2016/Volume36/EB-16-V36-I1-P42.pdf

IQ table:

Men average IQ
Blond 103.9
Brown 104.4
Red 100.6 **
Black 100.1 ***

** p<0,05
*** p<0,01

The difference between blonds and brownheads are not statistically significant.
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>>69678063
Sweden=Cuck
Germany=Cuck
UK=Semi cuck
Norway=Semi cuck
Protestantism is for cucks
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>>69683917
>** p<0,05
>*** p<0,01

have you studeid psychology or economy?
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>>69683546

> It should be in an extinct language
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>>69683917
So by that, people who are brunettes are smarter than blonds.
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>>69683755
Pol is full of normies nowadays, I made a thread about a kosher slaughterhouse and about a mixed race vegan youtube celeb with blond mother and only few noticed it while they went their way to sperg about hurr muh bacon.

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/69402257/#69402257

We lost pol to normies, get over it.
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>>69684104
It wouldn't be extinct if we used it :^)
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>>69683972
I'm studying medicine. :-)
>>69684109
Nah, there's no statistically significant difference between blonds and brunettes.
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>>69684294
That point gap is significant.
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>>69684294
>I'm studying medicine. :-)

oh! just learn the t-test the right way and dont fish for information when you find job in big pharma ;)
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>>69684158

Might as well invent a new language.
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>>69684394
>That point gap is significant.

103.9 vs 104.4 is highly unprobable to be significant
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>>69684481
Why should we? We had people who ruined the bible and forced it into the national language.
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>>69679299

> Jews been allowed in since 1656
> Somehow only the modern world is going to shit

Damn guys I guess you're going to have to reassess jews
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>>69684713
>1656

The Bank of England, formally the Governor and Company of the Bank of England, is the central bank of the United Kingdom and the model on which most modern central banks have been based. Established in 1694, it is the second oldest central bank in the world, after the Sveriges Riksbank, and the world's 8th oldest bank. It was established to act as the English Government's banker and is still the banker for the Government of the United Kingdom. The Bank was privately owned by stockholders from its foundation in 1694 until nationalised in 1946.[3][4]
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>>69684797

Correlation != causation

Unless you're claiming that Charles Montagu was a jew?
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>>69678063
Tbh Catholicism is the biggest degeneracy in the history of the Christian faith. It's basically heresy.

Even though I am not Christian, myself. It's pretty clear for me. Protestantism is a much more clear-cut version of Christianity, closer to Orthodoxy than anything else, and much more based, in any level. And being closed to Orthodoxy is good, because it's THE ACTUAL Christianity, and the actual revolution when it comes to the western tradition. Caesaropapism is the building block of western law and government. How can anything else ever compare?

Don't get me wrong, Catholicism isn't intellectual cancer like Islam is, or anything, but every aspect of it is so retarded.

As an atheist, I would like to see all religions go, but some are more retarded than others. Catholicism should definitely be the first to fall.
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>>69685136
>Protestantism is closer to Orthodoxy

Are you out of your mind?
Catholicism is way closer.
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>>69685136
>Protestantism is a much more clear-cut version of Christianity, closer to Orthodoxy than anything else, and much more based, in any level.

Which version of protestantism are you talking about?
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>>69678430
this post is bullshit protestants basically preach to give your money at least half of their lecture catholics pass around the plate and you never hear about it again
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>>69678063
>its a divide and conquer thread
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>>69684394
I just did the two tailed t-tests for all values.

Blonde mens values tested with:
>Brunettes: P = 0.4984
>Redheads: P = 0.0407
>Black: P = 0.0030

Difference between blond men and white redheads/blackhaired are statistically significant.

Difference between blond men and brunettes are not statistically significant.
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>>69685136
>>69685340
>It's pretty clear for me. Protestantism is a much more clear-cut version of Christianity

correct. Its a more straighforward approach- (1)BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS AND YE SHALL BE SAVED.

than (2) BE APART OF THE ONE ONLY ONE TRUE XYZ CHURCH COMPARED TO WHICH ALL OTHERS ARE HERETICAL, AND PRAY TO MARY AND SAINTS AND POPE... AND JESUS ALSO AND THEN YOULL PROBABL GO TO HEAVEN

...as the bible tells, aint it?


>Protestantism is a much more clear-cut version of Christianity, closer to Orthodoxy than anything else

WAT
A
T

Protestantism is closer to catholicism than to orthodoxy, although, protestant-catholic theological gap is bigger than cath-orthodox
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>>69678063
Better stay poor if becoming rich means having your country filled with shitskin, faggots and other sick animals.

Money isnt everything
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