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What kind of Christianity do you call this?
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>>69670464
He's a mega-church pastor.
Imagine Christianity mixed with hedonism.
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>>69670464
my mom is into this shit. it's just a money scam on another level
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>>69670464
It's a very loaded question and requires years of true grit research...
For the sake of time I'll simplify:

The general philosophy preachers like him teach are congruent with the vast majority of practicing christians. (Majority worldview)
Many others take a more extreme or deeper approach to Lutheranism, these we would deem christian extremists - Pastor Gino Jennings is perhaps one of the best examples of this on a very mainstream level. (Major minority)
Then we have highly disorganized christian hate machines who for the most part are owned and operated by cybernetic potatoes, i.e. Westborough Baptist (Small minority)
Moving onto perhaps the only kinds of christians that no one seems to be aware of largely based on the principle that they're a christian secret society, the Underground Church. (christian terrorism organization)

Hope this helps OP...
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>>69670464
Evangelicals are the retarded "christians" who make the rest of them look bad. As well as all of America. Not to mention it's mostly a scam for their money, and they suck jew dick.

The niggers of the church, if you will.
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it's called Protestantism, the gayest and most degenerate religion to ever exist
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>>69672903
can you define 'evangelical'?
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I call it the inevitable result of Protestantism. Prosperity gospel is just as valid as any other protestant denomination.
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>>69673054
It's the church that the bible thumpers prescribe to. It's not protestant, orthodox, or catholic. It's basically the "trash" category for Christianity.

They're the ones who take the bible literally.
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>>69670464
Heresy
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Why do Atheists want this guy to lose his house?
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>>69670464
>it may look impossible but god can do the impossible
row row fight the powah
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>>69673396
>bible thumpers
why do you use such nebulous terms?

you're saying you think joel osteen takes the bible literally?
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>>69673685
No, I'm saying he's a jewish as fuck lying manipulative bastard, and literally no real denomination considers mega churches like his to be part of them.

Hence why evangelicals are the "trash" category.
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>>69673396
What is the point of the Bible if you don't take it literally?

That is how you get thousands of wacko cults just interpreting the Bible however they want.

Also many protestants take the Bible literally and consider themselves Evangelicals
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>>69673899

How many books do you think are in the Bible?

What genres are they and what is their intent?
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>>69672903
>>69673054
'Evangelical' means something different in Australia to the States.

Here, an 'evangelical' is a philosophical Christian who bases his beliefs on the written text as opposed to experiences or feelings (pretty much the exact opposite of the US definition, really). We call the experience/feelings/rock concert/megachurch ones "pentecostals" or "happy-clappers".

Funnily enough, it was a couple of charismatic/handsome Kiwis in western Sydney that really turned the mega-church culture into a huge global phenomenon/franchise.
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>>69670464
Bullshit
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>>69673899
Oh God not one of you retards. I don't even want to explain why, you're obviously too stupid to understand.

The bible was a creation of the council of Nicaea. It is not the "literal word of god" It is a collection of books assembled by the proto-Catholic church (back when the catholic and Orthodox church were one.) It culled many many interpretations of the bible before it, and chose it's own. The four gospels were chosen from hundreds, and although, unlike the old testament, they are for the most part historically accurate, they are still second hand information. The old testament is literal garbage, having been passed down through verbally before even being written down, and then translated through a few dozen languages.
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>>69670464
christianity for ants

in the quote, he means grand CIA dragon illuminatus is working 24/7 to keep those kids flowing to esteemed fiddly kiddy diddlers
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>>69674008
I don't know I was raised Baptist and don't believe that shit anymore I just know the people in the church considered themselves Evangelicals and took the Bible literally

>>69674167
just saying what is the point of people being Christian is they don't even believe their own book

calm down
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>>69674167
>The four gospels were chosen from hundreds

They are also the earliest and that is why they were chosen.
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>>69674269
Most major churches have some sort of interpretation "manual" of sorts that helps understand their dogma.
Even protestants derive things from the bible, because then there would be no moral judgment on any modern issues. The catholic version of this is the Catechism.

In other words, the bible isn't the only thing you're supposed to use. It's stories (truth or metaphor) that are supposed to act as guide.
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>>69670464
I once watched a 1 hour sermon of him on YouTube. It's so soothing to watch these videos. I can see why people get hooked to these scam churches. It's like watching a telemarketing commercial. You know you're being sold to but it's oddly satisfying.
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>>69670464
All christianity implies to believe in imaginary beings, no?
So in all case, it's either high stupidity, or dementia.
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>>69670464

based on that picture, it's typical christianity preying on stupid desperate people.

that's going to happen in one way or another, because stupid desperate people will be taken advantage of.

what annoys me is that it's the current year, and harvard educated people like Obama and the Clintons still pretend to be religious. Hell, it appears that the majority of /pol/ believes in god.
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>>69670464
>What kind of Christianity do you call this?

Exploitative marketing christianity?
Lining your own pockets for Jesus-christianity?

Satanic greed demon manifest into reality-christianity?
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>>69674621
reminder that a faggot is more likely to be elected president than an atheist
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>>69670464
Church of Mammon.
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>>69674621
>preying on stupid desperate people.
There are many explanations for the nature of God that are science based, taking into account things like QM and cosmology. Atheists often cherrypick the worst examples of christians, while christians often cherrypick the most retarded atheists.

Unfortunately the majority of subscribers to both philosophies are retarded. Christians need no explaining as to why, it's the immense fracturing within the church as well as corruption.

As for atheists, I believe that most of them us Darwinian evolution as their "trump card" against christians. Not only is Darwinian evolution not even close to what science actually says, evolution has no place in an argument about the nature of a god.

Not to mention the fact that many atheists are materialists, which is scientifically wrong.

Atheists are often just as much an offense to science as christians.
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My mum and sisters are addicted to these megachurch pastors. Everything about it is sexual and appeals to a woman's sex drive. They're attractive men and women who speak deeply emotional words and cause women to go into hysterics, they even have rock bands during the show with a chord progression to get women into a sexual frenzy. If you've heard Christian rock you'll know what I'm talking about.
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>>69674167
>The bible was a creation of the council of Nicaea. It is not the "literal word of god" It is a collection of books assembled by the proto-Catholic church

Let me tip my fedora at this talking point. I used to bring it up all the time too, because I hadn't read about the council.

>The four gospels were chosen from hundreds

Yes, because there was no standardized set of gospels, and there had been additions to the story ever since it happened. There were basically entirely different religions latched on to proto-Christianity with their own stories and interpretations. How do you solve such a problem?
You have to assemble a team of elders to shift through the material and try to decide which bits are real and which are added on later. They did this without modern science help, but it was a fairly good job. Most of what is left out was the later additions and revisions. The core of the Bible is the oldest texts.

>The old testament is literal garbage, having been passed down through verbally before even being written down

This is also something we atheists over-emphasize. The four gospels are likely written down within the first century, living memory or a generation past, the events. This based on modern studies.

Atheists will harp on this despite it being routine to rely on accounts of events that happened hundreds of years earlier in other sources. Much of what we know of roman history for instance is Livy, and he's not a contemporary of much of what he writes about. Herodotus is even worse, he's a storyteller and even says he's relying on hearsay told to him in many ways, and we still refer to him, many without much skepticism.

Atheists are also slow to critique Buddhism for the "it was word of mouth for so long" even though it took them longer to write anything down.
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>>69670464
Insanity
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>>69674921
>Not to mention the fact that many atheists are materialists, which is scientifically wrong.

Please list the scientific disciplines that are not based in materialism:

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>>69675411
Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics.
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>>69674921
>Atheists are often just as much an offense to science as christians.

I should have pointed out that I, like every other educated open-minded person, am agnostic. Neither I nor you nor the pope have any way of knowing whether or not god or any sort of spiritual being exists. There is absolutely zero proof either way, so that is not an issue for us.

What is sickening is how the pope and people like that shitbag in OP's pic, and all the other religious crooks claim to have proof that "their" version of god is the real version, and if you follow them like little retarded sheep you will get a payoff after you are dead.
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>>69670464
Fairly general comment with a hint of modernist thought. He's a Protestant mega-church peep so just classify it as "Evangelical".
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>>69673054
It's a word for a fan base from the anime called neon genesis evangelion.
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>>69675488
>Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics.

What?

Explain how it's relevant.
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>>69675722
Consciousness stabilizes and creates reality.
Particles don't exist unless they have to.
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>>69670464

He is basically Ted Cruz or who Ted pretends to be. Scary.
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>>69675878
Consciousness stabilizes and creates reality.


I hope you're not talking about the von neuman–wigner interpretation
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>>69674621
Most people in this board believe Trump is Christian.They're that delusional.
I wish we could seperate this board into alt right atheist /pol/ and dumb fucking christcuck /pol/
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>>69675878
>Consciousness

It's measurement. Not consciousness.

Quantum mechanics is the biggest flypaper for hippie bullshit in this lifetime.
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>>69676017
>>69676101
I know that it's measurement, but in an argument like this it's easier to say consciousness because it shuts up retards faster, which means I have to explain less.
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>>69675142
Joel Osteen: Chad of the Church
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>>69676255
I'm incredibly lazy so I use often von neuman when describing copenhagen and hope no one notices.

Give me a break, I've been awake for 3 days straight.
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>>69670464
The kind where the preacher makes a ton of money.
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>>69670464

It's called "Give me your money you fucking retards, just trust me."

It's exactly the same as every other kind of Christianity but it's less subtle about wanting your money.
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Motivational Christianity
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>>69672985
I disagree, atheism is still a thing
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>>69670464
>tfw he threatened to sue me
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>>69670464
Tim Allen really needs to lay off the botox.
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>>69674235
>he means grand CIA dragon illuminatus is working 24/7 to keep those kids flowing to esteemed fiddly kiddy diddlers

And God Bless them and their vital work.
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>God is functionally not real
>But he's real because he can do impossible things
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Prosperity Gospel

It's a degenerate Heeby distortion of Protestantism, which treats God like Santa Claus to gibs dem free shit.
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>>69673054
the people who used to watch Glenn Beck write random bible quotes and link them to 9/11, obama, socialism, and iran
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>Catholicism is degenerate because buying into heaven is gay
>Create original protestant religion, Lutheranism
>Then Protestantism explodes
>Now there's twenty gorillian sects of these people
>All of them with mutually exclusive ideas
>Most of them condemn others to hell
>mfw Christians hate each other more than anyone else
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Evangelism was hijacked by talmudic satanic judaism.

https://youtu.be/styLx-iWwC8?t=2472
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the type this song is about i imagine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPV4jlOlWjA
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>>69672076
>the Underground Church. (christian terrorism organization)

explain yourself.

the term "Underground Church" usually refers to Christians who meet secretly in places of persecution; it has ZERO to do with violence, and in fact eschews it.

however did you get it this wrong? are you posting from Quantico, Virginia? WTF is wrong with you?
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>>69677390

Lutheranism was trash from the very fucking start.

>faith without works

permanently, irreversibly ruined Christian civilization.
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>>69670464
I watch the first 2 minutes to hear his jokes, then I turn it off.
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>>69680388
you're going to hell son

buy his book and repent
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