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Is Texas the most based place on Earth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b658zDEXZUk
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>>69647290
They sure have voted like a bunch of retards so far.
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>>69647290
yes
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>>69647387
Sorry, anon. I wish I could vote twice for every useless cuck wronging our rights.
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>>69647387
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Texas is the best state there is.
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>>69647290
No, our cities have been mostly overrun by cuck liberals from the coastal areas, mexicans, and blacks from the south

t. Dallasite
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>>69647290
of course
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>>69647477
I need some new boots. Thanks for reminding me, Jan.
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Why are white people so obsessed with guns? Are they compensating for something? lol
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>>69647817
That's because you live in crap cities that bend over backwards for the black man's schlong.

t. Fort Worthian.
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>>69647817
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>>69647983
They're fun to shoot.
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https://www.rt.com/usa/255297-texas-suspects-shot-mohammed/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbH60wCO-Yw
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>>69647904
Got a new pair myself just a couple months ago, went with the traditional leather sole--- you slip slide around on everything for a week or two until you scuff the soles up, but you can't beat tradition. I'm not wild about the fancy leathers like in pic related, cow hide for me thanks.
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>>69647983
Hello Tyrone Shoelaces.
Nice "Muh dik" argument.
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>>69647290
>some fat guy shot a target from real far away
>TEXAS SO BASED
You people are so silly sometimes.
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>>69647290
I live in Kirbyville, TX and I can assure you it is far from based. Same with the rest of this backward ass state. Yes I am a left Liberal.
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>>69648015
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>>69647477
>George Strait

Fuck yes.
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>>69648015
20 years ago that was pretty accurate.
>>69647997
Oh look, it's the college town masquerading as a city.
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Dallas is fucking muzzie & nignog central
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>>69648443
Get the fuck out you piece of shit.
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>>69647387
They voted for this guy.
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>>69647817
this
t. Houstonian

It's a sad thing to see, fort worth is pretty nice
also Plano, Nac, Palestine, Crockett, and the general small towns
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>>69647290

No, it's become a liberal cesspool of losers from the coasts that couldn't "make it" so they ironically moved to TX. Started after the last crash and has hit ridiculous levels. I moved away in 2009 because of it.

Arizona is FAR more based.
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>>69647290
Not when it has fucking Austin within its borders it isn't. But it is definitely more based than most other states here.
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>>69648423
pay denbs
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>>69648567
Fellow Houstonian here.

All of Texas' metros are getting bad with minorities, and Houston got raped with niggers when Katrina happened.

Small towns in Texas are basically heaven if you have the money to buy all the toys you want.

Either way, I'm planning on moving to the northwest, Washing, Oregon, or Idaho.

They have all the good parts of Texas, with less of the minorities, plus mountains and trees galore.
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>>69648544
Trust me I am trying. I hate it here.
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>>69648560
I absolutely love this man
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Rowlett here. Our tornadoes sure are based.
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>>69648443
fuck off back to california then shit head, liberal complaints only mean we are doing well
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>>69648766
>moving to yankvile
>no bbq
>no Texas culture
pleb
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Corpus christi is ok but people can't drive for shit here. Also fuck the libshits that move to austin, San antonio, Houston and start enacting leftist policies with the Latinos and blacks supporting it
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>>69648819
Shit nigga
>driving down 30 toward Lake Rockwell
>all dat damage
I mean some houses were completely destroyed
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>>69648443
>>69648807
what's a libtard doing in Texas?
What's a libtard doing on /pol/?
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>>69648709
Make me, bitch.
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>>69648807
Good fuck off and take your fellow cucks with you faggot. Pieces of shot move here from the west coast and try to turn it into cuckfornia. Fuck off cunt
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>>69649002
austin is my guess
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>>69649017
Shut your fucking spic mouth, your worthless little island should be carpet bombed so that the rest of the world doesn't have to deal with a shithole with cunts that are lower than mexicans
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>>69649092
he said he lived in Kirbyville, guess he spent to much time on reddit
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>>69648853
Never been to CA but i was born in CT. Lived in TX all my life though. Wouldn't mind heading out to the left coast or back east.

I always salute CA for their EVs.
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>>69648807
GTFO also means this board you fucking cuck. Go away.
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Any Houstonbros want to do a meetup?
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>>69649190
You would do well there. Go enjoy your cultural enrichment and crippling debt along with shit ton of illegals and gibsmedats
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>>69648443
Fucking Commiefornian locusts like you are the migrants that I am more concerned about, not the Mexicans. Stop ruining other states.
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>>69648567
>>69648766
I've lived just outside of Houston for the past 20 years. My neighborhood used to be full of old white people, but each time one of them dies an unwed mexican couple with 3-7 kids moves in.

They're nice enough folks, though - first to offer help after hurricane Ike, but I usually have to talk to them through their kids.
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Texan here

Too many spics, liberal millenials and no constitutional carry but otherwise I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Well, maybe Montana because I love the country and am somewhat of a misanthrope. It's basically a colder Texas minus the fucking wetbacks.
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>>69647290
>State being overrun by Austin & Cali libtards
>Mexicans everywhere
>People can't drive for shit
>Florida has double the amount of conceal carry permit holders
>Texas based

Nah, bro. Maybe 15 or so years ago. Its shit tier now.
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>>69648443

>Liberal
>Posting on pol

You're in the wrong hood, I tell ya hwut
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>>69649376
Why do liberals destroy everything they touch?
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>>69649002
>what's a libtard doing in Texas?

My dad is from Texas. He met my mom from Connecticut. They got married and moved here. I've lived here ever since and even went to college in state. Now I'm NEET and my parents live here so I do too unfortunately. I'd love to actually reside in a blue state and not just visit.

>What's a libtard doing on /pol/?

My friend showed it to me in 2010 and I've been obsessed with it ever since even though I HATE it. Actually he showed me /b/. I found /pol/ on my own. The only time I ever liked /pol/ was when Obama beat Romney.
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>>69647290
I absolutely LOVE Texas
BUT, for some odd reason faggot's are flooding our cities, now that the economic prosperity in commiefornia and Jew York has left, so does the shit population
now the libtards from those shity places are coming here and voting for the same shity policies that ruined their state
they will never get a libshit governor in, and they will never turn us blue, but they do have our cities
Every time I see a Cali or NY licence plate on the road I rage

Thread theme
https://youtu.be/LArGlfEVYqM
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what would happen if Texas formed right-wing or anti-liberal death squads?
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Oklahoma here, I have a great respect for Texans, but y'all need to sort out your liberal problem and mexican problem. We need to form a coalition to block out Californian and Mexican invaders.

We must start the Texoma Republic.
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>>69648560
>tfw I actually voted for this madman
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>>69649190
>Salute California
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>>69649334
>>69649374
hopefully Trump can fix that
we also need to find a way to get rid of niggers in Houston
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>tfw Austinite TruBreau

The only thing keeping me in this backwards hellhole is its lovely climate and top-notch Vietnamese cuisine.
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>>69649588
>I'd love to actually reside in a blue state and not just visit.
Why, exactly? Your vote wouldn't matter there any more than it does here.
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>>69648443
>left Liberal
I respect your opinion, but hope you get raped to death by a pack of gun-toting niggers or dismembered by Mujahideen like you deserve.
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>>69649092
Yeah I am far from Austin. I'm near the Louisiana border where they dragged an African-American man to death back in the 90's.
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>>69649596
same here, Illinois too, I get so fucking pissed
I used to be cool with outsiders, but they keep shitting up our state
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>>69649654
Oklahoma is just texas' cyst
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>>69649588
>>69649588
>The only time I ever liked /pol/ was when Obama beat Romney.
then why are you still here

also how did you become a brain washed libtard in Texas
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>>69649198
I'd be down for a Dallas meetup, but I know some faggot liberal would show up with a camera to put my face on /pol/.
But yeah, Barcardia would be fun.
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>>69649722
go to New York you fucking shitstain, or LA
the weather there is great and I can't strangle you if you move
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>>69649722
>based Viet food
I actually consider them the last wave of "true" Texan immigration behind the Czechs, Germans, Corsicans, etc.
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>>69649731
I feel like my vote just goes in the trash in this backward ass county. All I can do is help to expand the mandate by driving up the pop vote for Hillary and Obama before her.
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>>69649888
That's when you beat their liberal ass.
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>>69649785
Do hipsters end up moving to Chicago looking for the "cool urban inner city" life?
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>>69649981
>New York
>weather
>great

Ask me how I know you've never been to New York.
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>>69649654
Gov of Oakie land said if we leave, Oklahoma is coming with
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>>69650117
You're right it's a shithole, but it's where you belong
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Who /Frisco/ here?

>>69648819

Rowlett is indeed pretty based
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>>69649842
He probably lives in dallas
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>>69650212
shit
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>>69650094
Yeah, I guess it couldn't be too difficult
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>>69650248
>mfw I'm gonna invade Lampasas next
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>>69650359
>>69649817
Why don't you want to form the Texoma Republic? Shit loads of Oklahomans and Texans are related by blood, we are pretty much family.
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>>69648941
Corpus Christi fucking sucks unless you live on the island.
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>>69649888
Dallasite here
Live in HP, you?
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>>69649596
I'm not from Texas, nor do I have any intention of moving there (it's too hot for me), but I worry that the influx of retards will turn that state blue. Maybe I'm underestimating the amount of conservatives in Texas, but if things continue as they are it will turn eventually. and it makes me nervous
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>>69650635
>Irving actually, but about to head out to my old home of Arlington
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>>69647290
Because it's filled with P̶r̶o̶u̶d̶ ̶T̶e̶x̶a̶n̶s cucked commiefornians fleeing from all the policies they implemented then implementing them in Texas
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PLANO!!!
Plano is pretty good. I live in the west side a lot of Asians but other then thats it cool. and with the Asians you get fun places like Fat straws love that place
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>>69650746
The fucking refugees from the People's Democratic Republic of California don't understand that it's their own damn fault their state's a shithole. They keep up the same voting patterns once they leave and keep fucking things up for the rest of us.
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>>69647290
as a Texan i can say we could be better, but most certainly not the worse state to live in by far.

id say in the top ten, but probably on the lower end of the top ten.

our biggest problem is we need to stop the leftist liberals and illegals from turning us blue, but i personally have no idea how to do that.

deportation would only do so much as alot of them are legal.
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>>69647290
I hear it's become a liberal shit hole.
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>>69647290
>based
>Voted for lying Ted
Lol
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>>69648961

Yeah some of the apartments just before you get to the 190/I-30 overpass (where that lady died because the tornado ragdoll'd her car) are completely leveled.
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>>69648819
Holy shit. Fellow Rowlett fag here. That Sprouts that opened up I assume is to cater to liberals hippies and gluten free fags. I dont like it.
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>>69649842
>primarily raised by centrist mother
>MTV
>Jon Stewart
>George W. Bush
>Dick Cheney
>Donald Rumsfeld
>the war in Iraq
>Katrina
>the 2008 financial crisis
>the World Wide Web
>hip-hop
>college
>marijuana and other mind altering substances
>Barack Obama
>Saul Alinsky
>Bill Ayers
>Bill and Hillary Clinton
>Sarah Palin
>FoxNews
>Hannity
>Limbaugh
>Tea Party activists
>Glenn Beck
>liberal arts education
>CNN
>msnbc
>Bill Maher
>SCOTUS decisions on Obamacare and same-sex marriage
>extreme dislike of Protestants and leaving the Catholic Church
>my piece of shit racist greedy bigoted conservative "friends"
>Paul Ryan
>Trey Gowdy
>Allen West
>Ben Carson
>Marco Rubio
>Lyin' Ted
>TRUMP
>Ferguson and Baltimore
>/pol/
>info wars
>drudge
>patriots
>gun nuts
>Katrina Pearson

That's why I am a liberal. I love left wing ideas and politicians. I despise the other side for the most part.
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Anyone /georgetown/ here?
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>>69650947
It could have been Hitler himself. As long as Hitler is from Texas, Texas will vote for him. Their pride in Texas is that great. However I don't understand why they went for Cruz considering he was born in Canada.
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>>69650746
Does anyone object ahullu snackbaring the San Andrea fault line
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>>69650576
at least the beach isn't too far, it's nice when there is no red tide
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>>69647290
Yep as long as you stay away from the large cities (lots of blacks in Houston, Austin, and San Antonio areas)
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>>69650039
>voting for Hillary
That's even worse than voting for Trump. If anyone else did that, it'd be considered borderline treason. She should be stuck in Russia with Snowden, not winning the popular vote for the most powerful office in the US.

I legitimately just don't understand how people can look past those "damn emails".
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>>69651042
I dunno man, you gotta be like Hank Hill and try new things. Sprouts has some pretty great produce and deli food.
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>>69651047
I fucking wish I was Georgetown. What a beautiful town that is. It's a perfect compromise between antique aesthetics and modern convenience.
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>>69650947
tea party and Texan, that being said, I voted Trump
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>>69651273
I don't know how republicans and Berniebots don't see the email "scandal" for the political smear campaign it is.

Snowden belongs in jail. Hillary belongs in the White House for eight years.
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>>69651045
>raised by mommy
>muh raycis friends
>watched The Daily Show
>being a dumb stoner
>fedora
everything else is secondary or unimportant
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>>69651045
You sound very naïve.
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>>69651045
tldr: brain washed and sniffed too much glue
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>>69651045
> I love left wing ideas and politicians
>Barack Obama
>liberal arts education
>my piece of shit racist greedy bigoted conservative "friends"


> I love left wing ideas and politicians
>Barack Obama is why you're still a liberal
So which nigger cock sucking policy does your sub human brain like the most
importation of third world rapists
deficit spending more than any president in history combined
or degrading the minds and brain washing our youth

also
>liberal arts education
I guess I'll see you on the streets some day
guess that's why you're a shitlib, gotta gibmedats
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>>69651396
Plus its predominantly white, feels like a last bastion of america. Plus there's good fishing when our rivers or lake arent dried up.
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>from NY
>wanted to move to Dallas/north east Texas for work and comfy place to live
>sick of NY traffic, cost of living, and far-liberals
>really want lots of guns and to conceal/open carry

S-should I even bother now? I feel like Texans won't like me even though I'm trying to escape the things they hate from NY.
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>>69651458
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

She is practically South America-corrupt tier
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>>69651560
You sound like someone who will be speaking Russian soon.
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>>69651273
snowden should be pardoned, hilary and bama should get hung
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>>69651678
You'll be welcome here.
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>>69651678
Arizona if you want fun and heat.
Alaska if you want fun and cold.
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>>69651737
I'd love for you to explain that.
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>>69651618
desu I like all three of those policies
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>>69651678
just tell me where you plan to live, and what you look like cuck
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How bout that Mayor Mike "Im more afraid of white men than refugees" Rawlings? Fat fuck mustve never met a muslim.
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>>69651830
>I'm retarded
you already said that
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Who here /satx/
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>>69651924
this asshole
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>>69651820
Well you see the United States and NATO protect you from this evil country to your east that clearly has a thing for invading its neighbors. Now if Donald Trump is elected we will leave NATO and his good buddy Vlad will march right on through to Helsinki.
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>>69651618
>the presents are the nordic flags

heh.
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>>69649722
Resident of the People Republic of Austin myself - hit the Vietnamese places too. What's your pick?

Tan My is my usual, Kim Phung on Lamar too.
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>>69651589
never sniffed glue for obvious reasons but I have done most drugs
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>>69647810
Country
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>>69652059
>Well you see the United States and NATO protect you from this evil country
Oh? I guess you don't know what we were doing during the cold war then. Which is something we'll be doing again fairly easily.
>clearly has a thing for invading its neighbor
Only when enemies (read: USA/NATO) tries to take over the sphere of influence, which you did in Ukraine and Georgia.
They haven't really invaded anyone else.
>Now if Donald Trump is elected we will leave NATO and his good buddy Vlad will march right on through to Helsinki.
No, the main reason is politics (in which it seems you don't understand Russian-Finnish relations and how tight they actually are), as well as reasons for a Finnish invasion (which is now worthless because we wouldn't even serve as a good launch platform towards the only Nordic country worth capturing: Norway).

Nice try though. I'd suggest you actually read up on something before speaking about it, you just sound like a dumbass the way you're going about things now.
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>>69650039
Your vote goes right into the trash where it belongs
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>>69648664
>Arizona
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>>69647290
To be honest, I have more pride as a Texan than I do as an American. I hate that dumb commies keep moving here though. My end goal is probably a small town somewhere.
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>>69652208
Serious question (if you're not b8ing, and who knows anymore), how can you remain liberal after being bombarded with statistics about crime, economics and the effects of the fading nuclear family? Please explain to me your positions
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I live in commieniggerfornia, but I'm right wing, and despise liberal fucks, am I welcome in the promise land?
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>>69651876
I already said where I want to live in Texas, and I'm white, slightly above average height. I'm not an autist but I'm not exactly a socialite. If I was I wouldn't be shitposting on 4chan.

In NY we're not really openly friendly and such (even though a lot of us are decent people), but I've always wanted to live somewhere where I can get along with neighbors and shit instead of just not talking to anyone. Whenever I go to more rural areas or anywhere that isn't NY or niggerville on vacation, everyone is so nice and polite, it's almost like culture shock for me to see that from strangers. Texans always seemed to be of good character to me.
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>>69652630
yes, but not your family
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>>69652603
would also like an answer to this question
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>>69647290
940 reporting. Yes it is
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>>69647871
Your flag is wrong
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>>69652722
They wouldn't wanna come anyway, they're tolerable centrists, but they're still bluepilled
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>>69648567

Fort Worth MASTERRACE checking in
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>>69652603
The nuclear family has collapsed because the Bush recession and trickle down economics have decimated the middle class.

Violent crime is actually down. Crime only seems like it is getting worse because we incarcerate so many people for petty offenses like drug possession which should be treated as a mental health issue.
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>>69648766
>Washing, Oregon, or Idaho

Have you seen the amount of mudslime immigrants Obola has imported to those states anon?

Poor Idaho is starting to look like Minnesota.

Stay here and Make Texas Great Again
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>>69653021
Notrees is the true master race of Texas.

t. oil baron
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>>69652630
No, we dont need any more cuckifornians
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>>69653295
But I see a tree in your pic?
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>>69648423
> A FUCKING ISLAND
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>>69653423
It's an desert illusion. Ignore it pls.
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>>69653206
>the nuclear family collapsed because of the recession
Divorce rates have been rising since the 60s anon.
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Anyone from the lampasas-cove area?
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>>69652186
I liked to go to Tam Deli after the rock gym, back when I was still going to the rock gym. My dad up in Cedar Park likes Rosie's Pho. I liked them too, until they stopped putting blood in the bun bo hue (what the fuck? you don't leave that out!).
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>>69648481
>college town

Fort Worth has more culture in Stop 6 than all of Dallas county. Get fucked
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>>69651458
This isn't a smear campaign, she fucked up plain and simple. Her actions compromised US intelligence.

If this happened in the military, she would have been discharged several times over because the US does not put up with that kind of bullshit. By giving Hillary a free pass, you're showing everyone that your standards are worse than the organization that trained and employed these guys.
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>>69653779
I'll give Tam Deli a try - that's literally making a left instead of a right at 183/Lamar when I usually hit Kim Phang.

I understand your traditionalism. I used to tell my friends that I won't eat at a Vietnamese place doesn't have a couple of ex-ARVN sitting around.
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>>69652355
>They haven't really invaded anyone else
????
You're from Finland and you've forgotten about the Winter War, when your friends the Ruskies invaded the shit out of your little country?
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>>69654581
??????
Recent years=/=70 years ago.

After WW2 we essentially turned into their bitch for the rest of the cold war, which is why I'm not worried and simply do not care what NATO does.
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>>69647290
Considering I'm a fan of both steers AND queers, I'd have to say "yes".
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Everybody and their mother wants to move to Texas.

Our state economy is actually improving, there are actually jobs here, because liberals haven't ruined our state (yet). But the more ass-backward leftist retards that move here, the more voting power the left gains here, and the more power they have to fuck up our great state.
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>>69650947

#NOTALLTEXANS(33%TRUMP)
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>>69649654
>sort out your liberal problem and mexican problem
>sort out your meth and indian problem

We all have issues in our senpai little bro.
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>>69654581
Ah, that's right, anything that happened 70+ years ago doesn't matter any more. It's irrelevant and should be forgotten about.
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>>69654925
This. I voted Trump.
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Who /screw/ here?
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>>69654907

we need a wall on all Texas borders, not just the southern one...


that or just blockade california with one, do the entire country a favor.
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Texas and Idaho have the most based views on limited government.
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>>69655110
That music's degenerate trash. The only way it sounds good is if you are on drugs.
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>>69655041
Meth yes, indians however don't ever leave the Rez, they are a nonissue.
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>>69655110
I hate houston, but I could listen to big moe all day
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>>69655370

>implying

June 27 and 3 'n da morning are masterpieces. If you don't know why it's popular in the south than you're probably northern baby. Southern music whether be it's hip-hop or country has always been sung in a slow and mellow tempo in comparison to other regions. Hip-hop is the biggest example of this. If you look at east coast and west coast hip-hop than you'll notice that the speed in which they rap is extremely faster in pace than anything found in the south. Which has always lead to the stereotype of southerners being slow or stupid, but in reality southern music has always been mellow and relaxed. It's like an environmental thing When you're cold you like to talk fast because you don't want to spend any significant time exposing your mouth to cold air, whereas if you're in a hot environment you don't speak fats because you don't want to tire yourself out from the heat.

Here's the perfect example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QufAIYg8__8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIMlBOTC3Ks

See how the screwed version is more relaxed to the point where even the lyrics are given more emphasis and the brain more time to process it, almost like it's storytelling.

Oratory and storytelling is a strong part of southern musical heritage.
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>>69647290
This is the chairman of the Austin GOP. He's a total /b/tard.
https://twitter.com/RobMorroLiberty/status/716121718897512448
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Feels good owning 70 acres out in Amarillo. Feels mighty fine indeed. Only downside is that im Italian, but everyone labels me a filthy spic.
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>>69658001
>but everyone labels me a filthy spic.

Yeah well. That's you get when your matriarchal ancestors were getting spit-roasted by Berbers and Africans.
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>>69658001
>I know that feel, except with 400 acres in Crockett
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>>69658735
>Yeah well. That's you get when your matriarchal ancestors were getting spit-roasted by Berbers and Africans.
kek, top leaf bantz
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>>69658735
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Yes it is.
-Dallasite.
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>>69648490
Agree. Too many nogs here.
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>>69648443

I can't wait, when shit goes down, californians are gonna be dog meat. Literally. GTFO now faggots.
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>>69648560
>this is actually real

What the fuck?...You sure know how to pick em Texas
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>>69649138

Fuckin REKT. Puerto Rico, so pathetic it isn't a state and ALLOWS the IRS to make base there. Private corporation shills, the entire ignorant lot of them.
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>>69649295
Preach it. Fucking commiefornians need to fuck right off just like the Katrina niggers.
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>>69647817
Richardson man here I shit you not we have so many pedos and serial killers.
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>>69649784

Jasper.
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>>69651047
Cedar park
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No, for one reason.
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Does anyone get rust in their tackle box?
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Texas has based highways, whataburger, traces of european culture, Dr. Pepper, and some of the most educated Conservatives out of any red state. I live in a KOTH-esque small city and it's sure as hell better than living in a metro area. Austin hipsters and ghetto blacks and mexicans are going to cause us to go blue
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>>69660834
Do you guys even understand the position he holds? it's not a real political office just a republican party head.
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>>69647477
Not lying. I'm from Texas and I own a shotgun that looks just like that. Remington 1100
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>>69648443
I don't think other people here realize just how shitty and white trash Kirbyville is. If you by some miracle were born and raised in Kirbyville and you have an IQ over 105, then it really is a hellish experience.
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>>69648766
Are you me? I'm bound for rural Oregon for engineering work.
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>>69653244
Washington state has a lot of immigrants/refugees? Source?
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>>69650922

The wall, im not joking. Whomever says it wont doesnt know shit from real life. Also mandatory military concriptions, and best of all annex mexico.
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>>69664960
most illegals get here by van not walking
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>>69664163
Do you know Kirbyville? Because you happen to be quite right.
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