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Where were you when Tesla changed the world single-handedly and Made America Great Again?
https://youtu.be/Q4VGQPk2Dl8?t=19m5s
>one of the safest cars ever made
>autopilot
>supercharging
>215 mile MINIMUM range
>full electric
>0-60 in 5 seconds standard
>looks sexy as fuck
>35k
Haha wow 2018?
35K? LMAO this thing is garbage.
Buy a fucking focus or something for 20K less, its a better car and you can drive a million miles and still not make up the cost in gas.
>>69637266
Even the poor ass illegal who lives near my parents house can afford a 40k truck.
>>69637462
If by "afford" you mean barely make the minimum lease payments while saving zero money. That's poorfag logic for you.
looks pretty good desu
>>69637462
Yea you mean with 7% interest sold by a loan shark with a 7 year loan.
Might as well call it a mortgage.
>>69637132
makes 8.5k cars a quarter, valued at half that of BMW, which makes 100k a quarter JUST IN THE USA!!
kek, so much fucking hype from retards
dangerous batteries
low range
long recharge
takes from power grid, still has to be generated
RETARDED
Been getting my credit score up just so i can legitimately purchase it.
For someone like me who doesn't need to Haul shit or drive long distance its the perfect commuter car.
>>69637701
if you're making less than 50k a year and you're not a student, you're a worthless drain to society.
Literally everyone driving on the freeway I take all the time is driving at least entry-level luxury or new cars.
16 million cars sold every year in the US is huge with the average price being $32,000. And they just revolutionized that market.
>>69638407
>entry level luxury
what a 20k altima?
>>69637266
>HAHAH BUT YOU CAN BUY A SHITTIER CAR FOR CHEAPER LOL LUXURY CARS BTFO LEL
first of all this is competing with the BMW 3 series and audi A4 so its priced competitively
secondly you are underestimating how much cheaper the operating cost is, after 5 years you will be thousands of dollars ahead
I don't understand the Elon hate on /pol/, are you goys just trying to be as edgy and contrarian as possible? You do realize this is the most successful car start up in about 100 years
>>69638407
I make six figures and drive a $4000 beater. Not everybody needs to compensate for something.
>>69638407
You live in Miami too?
>>69638407
I would love if all the American labourers just up and left America. They can settle here and the whole world can see what happens when only illegals and smug useless cunts run a country.
I would give it 3 years before it collapses.
>>69638528
>most successful car start up
>has yet to turn a profit
>>69638570
I like your style faggot.
"The rich stay rich cause they live like they're broke... The broke stay broke cause they live like they're rich"
-Some guy
>>69638082
Model 3 is different. Being mass-produced to well over 200k a quarter.
>dangerous batteries
when will this meme end? Not a single injury caused by battery ever.
>low range
When do you drive more than 215 miles a day? If for traveling, use supercharger to charge to full in 20 min. Theyre everywhere.
>long recharge
20 mins supercharge. Or Leave it charging overnight and itll be full.
>>69637462
If by afford you mean tricked by the jews to spend more to go from point a to b than yes
>>69637132
But how does it hold up in sub arctic temperatures?
>>69637132
>>full electric
Why is this considered a plus?
>>69638992
Because electricity is a renewable resource and its the direction the global markets are heading.
>no dashboard behind steering wheel
>have to turn your head to see your speed
>>69638992
also MUCH cheaper than ordinary fuel.
>>69638936
>Model 3 is different. Being mass-produced to well over 200k a quarter.
when?
>when will this meme end? Not a single injury caused by battery ever.
what are the batteries made of? are you seriously claiming that because no injuries yet, the chemicals aren't dangerous in a crash?
where does the energy come from for recharging?
>>69638407
Have fun being a consumerized cuck like everyone else then. A luxury card makes what, 30-60minutes of your day slightly more comfortable, is that worth $30,000 extra? Good goy for falling for it.
>>69638992
because its a meme to enviornment fags who ignore lithium mining
>>69638851
If they stopped all CapEx they would be raking in billions in profit today
yes they are extending themselves with a crazy fast expansion but vertically integrated car manufacturing is extremely capital intensive
their cashflow is growing exponentially
do you have any arguments that aren't memes?
>>69638992
because you then get to appreciate the smell of your own farts
dem black sun wheels
>>69639293
>spend $10k more on the car
>but you'll save ~$1000/year on gas!
>takes hours to charge
>very few charging stations
>costs a shit ton to wire your house
>>69638970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxR99bGYEAQ
model s destroys snow so my guess is so will the model 3
Electric cars are fucking stupid.
>>69639293
electricity is 3 times the cost of gas
>>69638992
We should have had electric cars 50 years ago. DC generates tremendous power. Why do you think every locomotive made uses it?
>>69639331
Dude the model S was the highest rating ever for car safety by the NHTSA. Where are your sources that it is as dangerous as you say it is?
>people hating the only significant innovation happening in the auto industry in decades
>>69637132
I had an electric car once.
When I was 5.
>>69639347
>defending less than 250 miles on a charge
You do realize that many people drive long distances regularly and don't want to have to stop that often...
>>69637266
>its a better car and you can drive a million miles and still not make up the cost in gas.
Yeah and gives more money to the shitskins mudslims warlord to kill more white in europe and murica.
Boycott petroleum.
>>69638407
Everything is fucking entry-level luxury these days, you fucking retard.
>>69638528
Except after 5 years you'll spend another $10k to replace the batteries
Tesla is literally Apple for cars.
There was a few dozen cucks lined up yesterday in front of my local dealer, to make a 1000$ deposit for the new Teslas that will be released in more than a year.
I repeat. People made a 1000$ deposit for a car that has an unknown exact price, and unknown specifications (obviously no reviews. and no long-term reviews. For all we know these cars might end up as total garbage.
>>69639347
That's just normal greentexting, it's not even a meme but actual facts. Do you even know what a meme is? Are you going to continue defending this shitty company that refuse to take responsibility for burning down some idiots house?
>>69639464
Average car spends WAY more than 1000 a year on gas.
>hours to charge
20 minutes supercharging, and its free.
>very few
If you have internet in the US, you likely have a supercharger near by. If not, leave it charging overnight while you sleep. Youre not going to drive more than 215 miles a day.
>costs a shit ton to wire your house
>500 bucks is now a shit ton
>>69639670
haha NHTSA is the same people that gave the prius a fucking high rating, then its breaks were failing and killing people, the NHTSA is a fuckign joke
>>69639670
>crash safety ratings
lol who cares
>>69639715
ya that is a restriction, superchargers exponentially saturate your battery charge so after 15-20 minutes you would be at ~80% charge
also 99% of commutes are less than 250/2 miles so I only see that being a problem if you roadtrip to extremely remote areas regularly
>>69639957
>>hours to charge
>20 minutes supercharging, and its free.
>electricity is free
LMAO
>>69639957
>and it's free
for now...
>>69640045
Yes. There's this magical thing floating in the sky called the Sun that sends out energy to everyone for free. You didn't know that?
>>69637132
Is it EMP proof?
>>69637132
Daily reminder that tesla hasnt made a single american dollar profit yet and only still operates because of taxpayer's money.
>>69639347
Your entire country is a fucking meme you disgusting seal fucker. Now go do your civic duty, put on you hijab, lick a maple, and get a donut at Tom horrors you fat CaFuck.
>>69639957
>Average car spends WAY more than 1000 a year on gas.
Most cheapo cars get 30mpg, and with gas under $2/gallon, that's about $1000/year for 15,000miles/year.
>20 minutes supercharging, and its free.
Only if you're at their charging stations. It takes hours at your house, unless you spend thousands to rig your house with the supercharging device.
>Youre not going to drive more than 215 miles a day.
But good luck if you ever do. You pretty much have to have a backup car as well.
>>69639119
Wanna know where most of the electricity your shitty Apple computer draws its charge from is made? From what resource?
>>69639588
There are like 5 different ways to respond to this post and I can't grasp which angle to take. I'm actually speechless.
>>69639957
>and its free.
lel
>If you have internet in the US, you likely have a supercharger near by.
>Youre not going to drive more than 215 miles a day.
Oh my sweet city child....
>>69639957
>have to dish out 40k for something with less range than some 90s shitbox
>have to spend another $500 to charge it
>>69639847
Exactly. Thanks for making my point.
>>69639334
I drive about 2 hours, sometimes 3 hours total time since i live in SF. Yes. It's VERY much worth it.
>>69640045
Commiefornia here, he's half right but that's after 20k before incentives for solar panels. It's pretty neat actually to be getting checks from my utilities company. Unfortunately the checks go towards the cost of the panels, overall with AC on all day I tend to break even.
>>69640008
So, anyone say, in the state of Texas, California, Florida, etc
>>69637132
That's all great and all, but I don't want to be that faggot at the stoplight. You know, the one who's arrival is heralded with his "engine" noise.
You know the sound.
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
35k for a car that looks that good? SIGN ME THE FUCK UP
>>69640275
>being a SF cuck
There's your problem.
>>69639578
Gas is double the price of electricity actually, bong. Not only that but superchargers are FREE as are many public charging stations.
http://energy.gov/articles/egallon-how-much-cheaper-it-drive-electricity
>>69640216
>>69640045
great debate guys but just so everyone realizes, you can drive up to a supercharger and charge your Tesla without paying a cent ok?
dank greentext though
>>69639347
>their cashflow is growing exponentially
source?
>>69639567
true
>>69639670
>Dude the model S was the highest rating ever for car safety by the NHTSA
I have no idea what that is, or what the ratings are based on, or what rating they got. do feel free to briefly explain
as long as you also tell me what chemicals are in teh batteries, and how much of them
>>69639917
hype, and saaving da plaanet maaang
>>69639957
>its free.
explain
>>69640167
serious? not one dollar? jesus, kek
>>69640322
break even because the rest of the country is paying for you? wew
>>69640275
i really have fun with my poorly calibrated touch screen and crappy wood finish on my 2 hour commutes
Elon Musk is based, and /pol/ used to love him before the plebbit invasion of edgy kids
>>69640363
Yeah, and you'll get it MAYBE by 2018... If you put down $1000 today... You're typical budget mid size sedan will look that in 2018, and still cost less than $20k
>>69640363
Not having a grille makes it looks weird to me, hopefully there's an option to add a fake grille.
>>69638528
>underestimating how much cheaper the operating cost
And you are pretending just because it's electric there will be no operating cost.
>>69640452
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""free'""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>69640452
nothing is free turbocuck
explain
in my country electricity is 3x the rpice of natural gas
are you one of the reatards that thinks gas is a liquid?
>>69640476
The fuck are you talking about you dumb Muslim? I break even because using my solar panels I actually sell my electricity to power companies. Every month I get a 75-120$ check from them which I put towards the price of the panels. This means I get electricity for free.
>>69640045
>>69640103
"Superchargers are free connectors that charge Model S in minutes instead of hours"
https://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger
They already promised it will remain free for life. Who knows if they will keep their word but argue with facts, not hypotheticals.
this car is perfect for the city desu, who the fuck is going to drive more than 200 miles in one day in a city anyways. the way i see it, even suburbanites would benefit greatly from this car, the only people i see complaining about its 200 mile range are people that live in pissant one horse towns that have to fill their tanks twice a day to get groceries in their penis compensating trucks
p.s. have fun paying 5 dollars a gallon soon when the oil glut and iranian oil surplus runs dry, i'll be laughing at you at the station while i fill up my 2013 hondur civic econobox
>30k for an electric car that does 0-60 in 5 sec
sign me the fuck up
>>69640210
>implying gas has always been $2 a gallon
It was $4 a gallon not even that long ago
KEK
>>69638936
>use supercharger to charge to full in 20 min
and i can fill my tank in less than 5...it's almost like you think any great number of people want to sit around and wait 20 min while their golf cart charges.
>>69638570
Nothing sweeter than a paid-off vehicle. Everywhere I go assholes are driving big lifted trucks and ricers with rims they can't afford.
>>69638407
>if you're making less than 50k a year and you're not a student, you're a worthless drain to society.
bait of extreme caliber
>>69637132
We >>>/o/ now?
Though I admit a Tesla would be the car I buy if I had the money and my current car broke down to the point of repairs costing more than the car is worth.
I like electric cars, not really for environmental reasons, but because I don't want my money going to oil-rich mudslimes.
>>69640804
You act like you're some professional trucker who regularly drives 600 miles a day without ever taking any breaks.
>>69639506
If you want anywhere near that imaginary 200 mile range don't turn the heat on
these glorified golf carts are NOT ready for prime time.
>>69640880
>making more than 50k a year is hard
Maybe you should go back to college instead of shitposting all day.
ayy lmao
>>69640476
They had a loss of almost 900 million for 2015 while only having a turnover of 3,7 billion. If it wasnt for california this company would already be bankrupt
>>69637132
where are they made?
>>69640210
>good luck if you ever do.
If you ever do, there's superchargers literally everywhere. Especially by the time it comes out.
>>69640210
>It takes hours at your house, unless you spend thousands to rig your house with the supercharging device.
Again, when are you driving more than 215 miles a day? Leave it charging overnight..it's not hard.
>>69640936
>taking a break every 2-3 hours
>>69639670
it's not significant. Electric was tried and failed before this isn't new. The only thing new is this time they wrapped the turd in a shiny wrapper. It's still a Turd.
>>69641040
>driving 600 miles every day
>>69640692
you don't have a sweetheart rate payed for through subsidies from everyone else?
>>69640903
tesla shills out in force
have they really nevfer made even $1 in profit? wow, and valued at 30 billion? jesus there are some stupid fucking investors
>>69640992
s m h f a m
>>69640477
I'll be really having fun when my car is driving for me, allowing me to browse /pol/ comfortably and watch movies.
The Prius is a great concept insanely successful, this thing is kinda a piece of turd. I kinda wish some other company would pick up on this technology since the Prius is ugly as fuck. Does Toyota hold some sort of patent to the Prius?
>>69641116
its like weather and battery drain dont exist to tesla drivers
>>69641318
There are lots of other hybrids besides the prius.
>>69640633
Thank God I don't live in your country then, mohammed. This car is American made for Americans primarily. Tough luck, bong.
And when you don't pay a single cent, pretty sure that constitutes as free.
>>69641026
>Again, when are you driving more than 215 miles a day?
That's really not the point retard, when literally every non electric car can drive more than 215 miles a day and don't need hours in between.
If electric is ever going to be anything but a novelty item. You have to beat the standard, it does not change to accommodate the electric golf cart.
>>69641228
No because i don't live in a welfare nation.
>>69641077
You sound like an OPEC shill. Who are your Arab masters?
Gas powered cars are alright and will likely hold the competitive edge for a long time to come, but it's incredibly difficult to find gas stations that aren't supplied with Arab oil. If I can verify the gasoline I put in my car comes only from America or maybe South America, then I wouldn't hate myself each time I fill up.
>>69640469
>free
But yeah, pick that one point and run with it, don't worry about the rest of what was typed.
>>69641387
Like want I wanted a BMW hybrid forever but all they have are diesels.
>>69641414
>>69641414
>And when you don't pay a single cent, pretty sure that constitutes as free.
oh god, a bernie voter
anyway, your shitty lectric will never beat my hachiroku on mount akina, loser
>>69641414
>expecting a peasant of their majesty to understand what free is
>>69641496
Activehybrid?
>>69637132
Looks like a Mazda3
>>69640798
And? That's still $2,000 year. So it takes you 10+ years to break even, if electricity is say half the cost, but at 10 years you'd be staring a $10k battery replacement in the face. The car is essentially totaled at that point.
>>69641228
Ahmed, I just liked the cars, I'm not telling you to fucking buy one. And when did my post hint at profits and what the company's worth?
I don't even invest in anything because I see it as only a step above gambling/playing the lottery. Too risky.
>>69638407
If you pay taxes you're not a drain. Ive made 50000 a year in the past and now a student making less. Want to hit $100,000 via education……sacrifice.
>>69641342
>weather
Oh no! It's raining! Good thing autopilot doesn't give a fuck.
>battery drain
Oh no! I can only drive 180 miles now instead of 200! Good thing I live 10 miles away from work.
>>69641633
Damn didn't even notice they have these, neat.
>>69641430
You sound like a paid Tesla fanboy. OPEC doesn't need me but apparently Tesla needs little bitches like you to promote their gift wrapped turd of a car.
>>69638936
Portable battery would be cool, just in case. Maybe it gives a 1/4 charge in case of emergency.
>>69640880
50k is nothing..
>"The U.S. Census Bureau reported in September 2014 that: U.S. real (inflation adjusted) median household income was $51,939 in 2013 versus $51,759 in 2012, statistically unchanged."
>>69641781
>lives 10 miles from work
>complain about spending less than $500 a year on gas
>spend $40k on a car
>>69638992
quiter, less pollution, less maintenance, more cargo space, shall I continue?
>Tesla model 3
>>69642036
>median HOUSEHOLD
>>69642086
They don't have more cargo space m8
>>69642077
I have a buddy who is exactly that dumb as well
kek
>>69642086
>quiter
don't they add fake car noises so people dont get hit by them?
>>69639917
indeed. even the reveal was a poor mans steve jobs impression.
still a great car. id value it at around 80k in terms of performance and technology
>>69641418
The 215 mark is the minimum, not the maximum, retard. It could go well over 250, even more if you're good about driving habits.
Superchargers charge in 20 minutes, where's all the HOURS OF CHARGING bullshit coming from? If you don't live in a fucking farm, you can go to a supercharger and charge for free.
>beat the standard
Are you really suggesting this car isn't breaking the standard? Name one car in its price that can go that fast and have that range and looks like that with all said features.
>>69639847
Not quite.
>>69637132
its a nice car but its overpriced like all of teslas stuff. they dont have the market share to be considered even 3rd place in global sales or even domestic sales
i totally support the electric car but tesla motors is the apple of automotive companies
>>69642077
The autopilot feature is worth $40k alone. I don't give a fuck how much I save on gas.
>>69641985
Granted I haven't test driven one, but I'll give them a shot. Besides I'm not giving up my old little sedan until it's overclocked with 500k miles and a dead transmission.
I'm a cheap man, driving my banged up daily driver until it can go no more. I'm just saying a Telsa would probably be the first car I look at when I need a new car.
>>69639917
>Tesla is literally Apple for cars.
Exactly poor fag. Stay a fag.
>>69642461
You'll never use autopilot
>>69637132
Still a small car that is sold at large car's price. If I ever need to go electric for some weird reasons, I can pick either Hyundai ioniq or Toyota Prius tomorrow with any prpblem.
>>69642391
>muh 0-60
oops there goes a quarter of your charge
>>69641528
Why are you even here shitposting in an American thread? This is a car for us. Not you. Why are you even involved in our politics? Why do you care and obsess over us? What's wrong with you people?
>Definition of free: without cost or payment.
"ladies were admitted free"
synonyms: without charge, free of charge, for nothing
>>69642391
The "superchargers" fucking suck. You have drive 10+mi there and back to get to one likely, and spend 20min waiting for it to charge. That's 40min right there. It takes the average person less than 5 to fill up their car, because gas stations are everywhere.
>>69642480
Which will be at least 10 years in the future. I'm banking that the tech will become far better then.
>>69642391
>Are you really suggesting this car isn't breaking the standard?
Are you really this retarded? Do you have reading comprehension problems as well?
>>69640330
what kind of person drives 75+ miles to their job every day
>>69639957
>Average car spends WAY more than 1000 a year on gas.
lol nope.
I drive 46 miles round trip to work every single day and fill up my car with $25 once a week.
That's $100 per month = $1200 a year.
I drive a 335is. Twin Turbo 6 cylinder. I could be spending 30% less in a 4 cylinder car.
>>69640103
>>and it's free
>for now...
>>69640045
>>electricity is free
>LMAO
Think of it as a service that is part of the purchase price, not as free juice.
>>69642576
Sure I will. I have better things to do than constantly turning the wheel like a monkey.
>>69641668
Thing is, most public charging stations are FREE. Including superchargers. You don't have to charge it at home. So realistically, the costs are dramatically reduced because you wont be charging home much.
Not only that but gas is not renewable.
>>69640485
Your a programmed idiot. You want a grill on a car that fortunately doesn't need one because it doesn't have a combustible engine.
>>69642461
And you'd leave Autopilot to drive your car? I bet you will never use that feature.
>>69640975
of course it's not hard dumdum doesn't mean they're a waste on society
>>69641771
Are you saying the dirty mexican paying a small tax while living off of welfare gibs and SNAP isnt a drain?
>>69642681
The only thing it will add to the driving experience is that it will be cruisecontrol that actually breaks while going down hill.
>>69642650
plenty of people
>>69642036
>median household income
congratulations, you played yourself
>>69642086
>less pollution
>>69642778
>the charging stations are free to use
>for now
Kek, mate
>>69637132
but does it make sexy noises?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucpkpyUM-fk
>>69641682
>Ahmed, I just liked the cars, I'm not telling you to fucking buy one. And when did my post hint at profits and what the company's worth?
well you sure seem to be shilling hard for some company that makes such good products that they have never made a profit
bodes well for the future ayy?
>>69642086
and the dangerous chemicals in the battery?
>>69642589
muh natural rights, faggot
don't tread, me, I'll nip ya ya bastard
because yo uare our favourite son, and product of our blood
and you still have a proper constitution, even though it's mostly been retconned, at least you still have your freddom shootys
>Definition of free: without cost or payment.
so no funds are expended in the creation, rent and supply of these points? sounds unlikely
>>69643034
once they get you hooked!
>>69642911
>driving experience
Why would anyone WANT to drive? Self driving cars have been safer than manually driven cars for over 2 years, and the technology is still getting better. Driving just takes away your time to do other things. Why would you spend 1 hour driving and 8 hours at the office each day when you can spend 1 hour working in your car and 7 hours at the office instead?
>>69642150
Not everyone is a fucking middle-aged cuck virgin. In fact, single old people are a small percentage of the population and guess what, most also use government aid and as I've said before, a deadweight to society.
>>69643159
>working in your car
why not just work from home
>>69642788
This doesn't mean the motor will never get hot and won't need passive cooling. Do you know how motors work?
>>69637132
That car looks like shit
>>69643270
Because there are things you need to be in the office to do?
>hurrdurr why do companies even have offices
>>69642129
Love the minimalism.
>>69643270
Because he needs to work 14 hours a day to pay for his Tesla.
>>69642326
hot tbqh.
>>69638528
>competing with the 3-series and A4
>at $30k
no
>>69643159
Driving is one of the more thrilling things people do on a regular basis. Who doesn't love to drive? Even when its full on self driving in 20 years people will do it for a while and then go back to driving themselves
>>69637132
>Supercharging
Also Tesla is taking away your freedoms of the open road.
Dont buy into the electric Jew
>>69643362
The office is there so you don't goof off all the time like you do at home. Also its nice to have access to other resources all in one place.
>>69642459
> overpriced like all of teslas stuff.
They're bringing you technology no one else has for 30 grand. What are you fucking dull?
>>69642129
Is this a joke? It looks like they superglued a tablet to the dash
>>69643485
>Driving is one of the more thrilling things people do on a regular basis.
Fucking riveting parking on the freeway, inching forwards every couple of minutes trying not to breathe in too much carbon monoxide.
>>69643563
Aside from the battery, what tech are they bringing? Keep in mind a Honda Civic can do everything any Tesla car can currently do in terms of "autopilot"
>>69642591
"Drivers log an average of 13,476 miles per year, or 37 miles a day"
215 mile range / 37 miles a day is nearly 6 days before charging.
ASSUMING a supercharger is 10 miles away, 40 min trip. You're sacrificing 40 mins of your WEEK to get another FREE 215-10=205 miles. Keep in mind, this is all MINIMUM mileage. And you're saying that's a bad deal? KEK
Keep in mind, most Model S owners well-exceed their minimum.
>>69643563
>technology no one else has for 30 grand
>>69643362
So why would they let you work in your car? Let me guess you also think automation will make everyone redundant besides office monkeys?
How many miles does the drive train last?
>>69643485
I hope manually driving gets banned by then. If you want to drive then go drive go karts on a fucking race track or something. Don't endanger others with your inferior driving skills.
>>69643563
>They're bringing you technology no one else has for 30 grand.
I can go get a second hand car for 2k right now instead of waiting for a revolutionary overpriced four wheel motorized transport from Tesla for a year.
>>69643567
That tablet probably cost us another $5k. Take out the tablet, give me a normal HUD because looking at the thing right now its an accident waiting to happen.
>>69642650
I do 40, 20 there and another 20 back. 75 miles is insane and I would probably kill myself if I had to commute that far and spend 3 hours per day stuck in traffic.
>>69642918
That's horrible
>>69643633
All that open space and you chose to live like a fucking sardine
>>69637132
Look how low to the ground that thing is. Even if you were to take out the two back seats and rear roof so you could fit a pallet back there, you'd be dragging sparks behind you the entire time.
I mean FFS, the only thing that thing can move is people and small bags. I've never understood the point of non-sports cars. If you're gonna get a vehicle for utilitarian reasons, get one with some flocking utility.
>>69642651
>average car
>THOSE FACTS ARE WRONG BECAUSE OF MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
ITT: Ahmed shilling for daddy's oil company
>>69643738
wew lad.
>>69643034
>using a hypothetical as an argument against a fact
Kek, mate.
>>69643284
Im s= sure the Tesla Engineers factored that in way before you did right now dude. I think i'll side with them.
>>69643694
There are plenty of tasks you can do that don't require you to be in the office. Coding something up by yourself, reading or writing documentation, filling out paperwork. That doesn't mean the office environment can be completely replaced.
>>69643756
You could steal somebody's bicycle for free RIGHT NOW and unleash yourself from the shackles of the petroleum jew if you were brave enough.
>>69640006
>ITT armchair engineers
![960-tesla-motors-inc-tsla-australian-investors-caught-in-24-million-tesla-stock[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rJ0uVC6.jpg "960-tesla-motors-inc-tsla-australian-investors-caught-in-24-million-tesla-stock[1]")
>>69643563
>They're bringing you technology no one else has for 30 grand
>electric already exist
>they are already under $30k
>this car will cost far more than that
Yeah, ONLY 30 grand, with thousands in government subsidies, paid by the average American tax payer who couldn't give a fuck about 100+ year old dead technology that will never be feasible. Unfortunately the 16 year olds who think manufacturing an electric car is somehow "green" aren't the ones being forced to pay rich people to discount their luxury cars. FUCK Tesla. Fuck you idiot children for drooling over the marketing pin ups of this vaporware car.
>>69644002
he's kind of got a point though. As Tesla's customer base grows there's no way they can leave the charging stations free
>>69643363
I don't think that's what the final build will look like.
>>69644031
Youre talking 10-20 years in the future. This tesla does not drive itself
>Just bought a $18k 2016 mazda 3
Why the fuck would anyone buy a car above $20k if they're single? It's so pointless.
>>69644083
The charging stations literally run at a profit. They generate solar electricity, store some for drivers, and sell the rest to the grid.
>>69637132
>gigantic touchscreen mounded in the center of a blank dashboard
I hate that shit. Just make a normal fucking car.
>>69643485
I hate driving, though I get an adrenaline rush out of it. I become incredibly stressed and prone to road rage. I speed, tailgate, and become incredibly impatient as I want to be on the road for the least time possible.
Honestly I drive so little I would totally drive a Tesla. I just bought a car though so I have no need for another one. If I hear some positive responses from this cheaper one I might pick up a used one at a later date. My only thing though is that I heard the batteries and all the internal shit costs a ton to repair. How true is that?
and no don't give me any shit about CO2 emissions I don't care at all. Just give me the dollars and cents for someone who doesn't drive a lot
>>69644031
They're not going to write 8 hours even if you do these shitty tasks in your car. Why would they?
>>69643639
>>69643679
>>69643756
Do any of these cars have a 200+ mile range?
>>69644189
>the charging stations run at a profit
citation severely needed
>>69644154
>tfw just bought a Challenger R/T for $19k
Because I want one?
>>69643679
shit range senpai, the chevy bolt has good range though. The tech Tesla has over others is a normal looking electric car.
While the car specs are impressive and the technology behind it too, the design and interior scream meme car. Prefect for this apple generation. Personally the front of the car without the grill looks to me like a face without a nose. Overall I'm impressed they squeezed it in for 35k base model. Interior sucks though.
>>69644189
ah im sure those electric companies will enjoy tesla cutting into their power lines
>>69644154
This. Entry level cars these days are literally better than luxury cars from 10 years ago.
Yeah, maybe years from now when this thing actually comes out you can spend $20,000 more on it, for very little real improvement in quality, and "save" a couple thousand over the life of the car on gas.
Seems idiotic to me.
>>69644274
yeah it runs on gas
>>69644274
who cares nobody drives 200 miles a day :^)
>>69637132
How soon will it need new batteries and what is the cost of replacing those?
>>69644258
I don't get paid by the hour. I usually get enough tasks to take an average of 35 hours a week to do, and if I can do some of it in my car they don't give a fuck.
>>69644251
Replacing the battery is pretty much the equivalent of replacing the transmission. Except in this case the battery is only good for 10 years.
>>69644251
>drives so little
>thinks its reasonable to spend $35,000 on a car
tesla cuck logic
>>69644073
proofs please.
>>69637132
>naming a car after a meme scientist
i wonder how anyone would do repairs on it
>>69644442
10 years (in theory)
allegedly about $12k
>>69644333
>tfw I just bought a used 2007 civic off of a friend for 3k.
>>69644498
Except you will still need a transmission...
>>69644616
Electric cars don't have a traditional transmission
>>69637132
> making fancy new car
> makes it look generic as fuck
If I'm going to drive a fagmobile it should not look like some urban cat ladies sedan
>>69637132
750 bucks a month for 4 years hardly seems great.
>>69644616
Fully electric cars don't have trannies, senpai
it's all electric motors
I've never paid any attention to this company because it can't compete with the internal combustion engine. After watching this video I hate Elon and all his retarded fans. The cheering from old hippies, hipsters and faggots made me cringe every time.
>>69644293
>presented with a fact initially
>First uses a hyopthetical to argue the fact
>cant believe the rebuttal to his retarded hypothetical
>now begs for FACTS
My fucking sides are in orbit right now
>>69644514
I'm talking many many years down the line retard.
also I said used.
>>69644460
You get payed by task? LMAO
You can't make this shit up. Even chinese get payed by hour now
>>69644598
So I'd have to keep the car for 30+ years (assuming 35k is base and there are options) for the batteries to cost more than the car.
Not a bad deal but I'm still inclined to wait a bit in the hope someone sorts batteries out for good.
>>69644653
But they still have a transmission as well as other parts which constitute wear and tear. So the battery is a very expensive parts thats a guarantee replacement.
>>69637132
>115k sales at minimum 35k per sale in 24 hours
did they just make like 4 billion dollars in 24 hours
>>69644779
>what is every salaried position ever
Though I'm sure that someone who has only worked at a fast food job where he has to clock in and out every day wouldn't know.
>>69644864
If they made the cars for nothing then yes
>>69644552
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_incentives_for_plug-in_electric_vehicles#United_States
>In his 2011 State of the Union address, President Barack Obama set the goal for the U.S. to become the first country to have 1 million electric vehicles on the road by 2015.[162][163] For this purpose, his administration pledged US$2.4 billion in federal grants to support the development of next-generation electric vehicles and batteries
>The tax credit for new plug-in electric vehicles is worth $2,500 plus $417 for each kilowatt-hour of battery capacity over 4 kwh, and the portion of the credit determined by battery capacity cannot exceed $5,000. Therefore, the maximum amount of the credit allowed for a new PEV is $7,500.[165]
> All Tesla Motors cars are eligible for a tax credit.
>The 2009 ARRA provided a tax credit for plug-in electric drive conversion kits. The credit is equal to 10% of the cost of converting a vehicle to a qualified plug-in electric vehicle and in service after February 17, 2009. The maximum amount of the credit is $4,000.
>There was (through 2010) a federal tax credit equal to 50% of the cost to buy and install a home-based charging station with a maximum credit of US$2,000 for each station. Businesses qualified for tax credits up to $50,000 for larger installations
>Rebates of up to $5,000 per light-duty vehicle are available for individuals and business owners who purchase or lease new eligible vehicles. Certain zero-emission commercial vehicles are also eligible for rebates up to $20,000.
>>69637132
Electric cars are for fags. Just fuck off
>>69644804
They don't have a transmission like you're thinking
>>69644965
Yeah totally disregarded that
Still an insane number to be pulling in, wonder what their net profit is there
>>69644984
Okay Swede.
>>69644967
by the time this model comes out Tesla will have exhausted their credits
>>69637132
Anything to get off oil and let the middle east rot faster is good in my book.
>>69645094
If the model 3 follows the profitability of the model S their net profit will be negative
>>69644984
>electric cars are for fags, I drive a 5 mpg Jeep like a real man!
What all of you don't understand is that Tesla had ALL of this technology WAY before the Bolt, the Volt, the Leaf, or any other electric car.
What is groundbreaking is that they fit ALL that plus unbelievable tech, safety, speed, and efficiency all into an affordable 35k car. The average car sold is 32k.
I cannot believe that this is even getting any negative criticism.
>>69638936
>"guru batteries have never hurt anyone
>what is phone battery, "hoverboard" battery, and laptop battery
>>69645211
>all of this unbelievable technology
I'll ask again, what groundbreaking tech is in this car?
>>69644984
only insecure fags think a car is somehow a marker of your masculinity.
>>69644154
To impress a prospective partner so they won't be single?
>people acting like 215 mile range makes the car useless
here's an idea: if you regularly drive more than 200 miles, don't buy it.
The majority of people won't even have a 200+ mile drive once a year, let alone regularly enough for it to be an issue.
>but what if you buy a Tesla and then something happens and you need to make that long drive?
Then you have a lot of options.
>Borrow a friend's car and let them use yours until you get back
>Rent another car
>Fly instead of drive
>Even catch a fucking bus
Of all the things to bitch about with this car, the 215 mile range is the stupidest
>>69645172
The fact that they are now in a mass production stage with lowered costs says otherwise
I mean, I get there are fossil fuel shills and the like, but why can't we simply have both? Why are you so against seeing cool shit?
Question, if the Prius battery cost $3500 from Toyota to replace. How much do you think this battery is going to cost?
>>69639710
cop or /panthermeetup/
>>69645284
Compact entry level sedans these days are luxurious as fuck.
>>69645211
>What is groundbreaking is that they fit ALL that plus unbelievable tech, safety, speed, and efficiency all into an affordable 35k car. The average car sold is 32k.
it hasnt even been produced yet
>>69645318
The fact that they have yet to turn a profit says otherwise. Maybe they can make this work. I don't know. But I'm not buying into the hype until I see some actual positive results.
>>69645320
How often do the batteries need replacing? Is it the equivalent of needing a new gearbox for instance
>>69645211
>affordable 35k car
>unbelievable tech
>groundbreaking
It's literally just an electric car.
>>69644251
>My only thing though is that I heard the batteries and all the internal shit costs a ton to repair. How true is that?
Ever heard of insurance and extended warranties?
>>69639834
>Yeah and gives more money to the shitskins mudslims warlord to kill more white in europe and murica.
>Boycott petroleum.
This logic is incontrovertible.
EVs defund semites. Buy American PV and power your cars with the fucking sun, American protectionism can be done.
>>69645279
You describe White America in a nutshell
>>69644916
>has a shitty office job
>hurr da fast food xD
Top kek m8. Its like you actually want to be cucked by everything in your life.
>>69645413
IDK for a Prius its like 12 years.
>>69645320
half the price of the car
>>69645505
Hurry up Achmed! You don't want to miss your 8:00 shift at the factory!
>>69645433
>he thinks insurance is going to cover a battery dying at the end of its lifetime
No. Has your insurance ever paid for brake replacements, new tires, or oil changes?
>extended warranty
I doubt Tesla is going to offer a 10-year extended warranty
>>69645397
Will definitely be interesting to see. This latest release of theirs is the only one that has really caught my eye
>>69645511
That's ridiculous, fuck that.
>>69637132
1. Get a Tesla model down to the 10,000 dollar range.
2. Get charging stations across the nation.
Then they will be O.G. Ford tier.
People forget that the Model T sold for today's equivalent of 7 grand. Which is what made it so ubiquitous and wide spread.
>>69645320
DYI and save money
http://imgur.com/gallery/j8Bcp/
>>69645568
Just crash your car bro...
>>69640141
Only carbureted vehicles are, and even the majority of those have computer controlled carbs.
Basically there isn't a modern vehicle in existence that is EMP-proof.
>>69645414
200mile range
most advanced consumer automated driving
horrible interior design
not really its more than what has been offered before
>>69645582
under 10K is a dream
who knows, maybe within the next three iterations it will get that low
>>69645479
People like you are such fucking cunts. The car is a major part of white culture. It was a massive achievement millions of people worked in the car industry at its height and it allowed us to get away from blacks and mexicans and move to the suburbs
>>69645582
If Musk manages to do something like that, then I'll be impressed.
Right now.
It's a meme.
>>69645467
I'm not a peak oil tin foiler or a Muh Global Climate Change greenie, but switching to alternative fuel supplies for transport, especially renewable ones, seems like a no brainer. We use petroleum for so many important things, from plastics to fertilizer, that it seems inherently wrong to me to use it on transport IF we have viable and renewable alternatives.
>>69644967
I still find it hard to believe it's possible that literally ONE TRILLION DOLLARS of our tax dollars was spent on absolutely nothing in that stimulus bill. I saw one road work sign where I live that said it was paid for by stimulus money.
That road would have been paved or whatever with or without stimulus money.
>>69645622
>go work for Toyota for a year
>quit
>open up your own shop replacing batteries for $1k
The business potential is really appealing.
>>69645637
Insurance will take the battery cost into account in terms of depreciation. You won't get much back if you crash your car right before the battery life is up.
>>69645209
>>69644984
You eat red meat, Have an 11th grade education, own a gun and masturbate to your sister too right?
>>69640210
>Only if you're at their charging stations. It takes hours at your house, unless you spend thousands to rig your house with the supercharging device.
https://www.clippercreek.com/store/product/charging-station-lcs-20-level-2/
L2 charge kits cost about $500. You're only going to be spending thousands if you go L3 with onsite battery-to-battery.
>>69645739
>horrible interior design
looks spacious and comfy as fuck from over here
>>69637132
35k
He just broke the record, these things will be flying off the shelves.
>>69645746
Well, yeah. I mean cars had been around for awhile before Ford managed to set up the systems (not just the famed production line manufacturing, but also sales systems, repair shops, fuel distribution etc) that could provide a 7 thousand dollar car.
But I feel like it's something worth aiming for.
I guess like internet/computers/phones.
>>69645796
A diesel runs perfectly on biofuel.
It makes way more sense than electric. You literally have to change nothing to the car and it's cheaper than normal diesel.
Electric cars are for fags, I'm all for the environment but cars are the one thing that needs to be ran by fuel to be for men
>>69645348
No there not, stop telling yourself that to make yourself feel good about your shitty world.
>>69637132
Or you could buy 35 corollas
>>69637132
Tesla = scam.
Musk = scammer.
Tesla = loss.
Musk = loser.
>>69645851
What you're leaving out is that you have to run a 240V circuit for the charger, which requires hiring an electrician and, depending on your setup, might require upgrading your circuit box if you don't have a free circuit
>>69637132
Pretty sexy tbqh desu.
>>69638570
>Cummings
>>69646044
If I had the place to park them I would buy 35 corollas.
>>69645993
I thought bio-fuel was still a meme?
Something about the cost of production outweighing the sales.
>>69645568
So an electric car runs through brakes, oil and tires faster than a traditional car? Not that these are even relevant to my post. Christ you peopler are fucking dumb. I hope you're a teen.
Revolutionary af. Poltards will still find a way to bash it.
>>69638407
>the average American is a drain to society
>>69646243
do you have autism?
>>69646200
no, it's literally cheaper in every respect
you can do it with most vegetable oil
The only reason it doesn't get done is because of the oil lobby. The taxation on biofuel is ridiculous.
>>69646025
If it's American fuel from here I can get behind it. But most of our fuel comes from sandniggers, You can't be a man when your money is being cucked to Ahmeds.
>>69645841
Jesus Christ, I guess this place really turned into reddit...
/s - here you go...
>>69645952
Cool thing is, it seems like a possibility considering the progress so far, and the motivator behind it all - guy seems like the type that would forgo extra profits in exchange for getting us off fossil fuels en mass
Seriously considering one as my next purchase, after my current 1.1l shitbox has served its purpose
>>69642459
>i totally support the electric car but tesla motors is the apple of automotive companies
>Tesla is the apple
>Apple market cap: 600B
>Microsoft market cap: 438B
>Tesla market cap: 30B
>GM market cap: 48B
They aren't anywhere close to being the "Apple" of anything.
How the fuck do you recharge this thing? The chargers are all in the middle of bumfuck nowhere in the US.
Is it a meme car?
>>69646352
They could do it with hemp oil which is the second fastest growing plant on the planet.
>>69645746
aren't there some super cheap chinese cars out there?
>>69646243
Please explain how you can get insurance to pay for standard maintenance on ANY car
>>69643888
america is the largest buyer of petroleum based fuels
>>69646104
New technology requires setup money. The people willing to put down 35k + for this to act as beta testers for hardware are usually not going to be fussed over a few extra K of setup costs.
>>69639588
>DC generates tremendous power. Why do you think every locomotive made uses it?
You might want to read a bit more about this.
Locomotives are not electric battery powered.
>>69646506
he means tesla is more like a gimick
>people citing the 35k price
>tax credits bring it down to 25k
>>69646334
I tested 18% neurotypical on an online test for what thats worth.
>>69646506
Tesla is a fucking scam. Carbon credits and hookers/bribes. 1000%.
>>69640275
>wastes three hours a day commuting
so you're a poorcuck who can't afford to live close enough to work, got it
>>69646654
>he doesn't know tax credits are capped at X units per manufacturer
>Tesla will have burned through all their credits by 2017
>>69646537
electric cars?
>>69646654
Clown credits Jewboi.
>>69642985
using petroleum to create electricity creates less pollution than burning it for fuel
>>69646025
>tfw my little I-Miev city car is powered by nuclear energy
>have S2000 for fun on the weekends
I may trade both in for one of the Model 3's
>>69646758
No electric car is cheap
>>69646578
My point wasn't in regards to standard maintenance. Im addressing major concerns such as accidents,battery or electrical issues. Things insurance covers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcmZ1dof3Qw
>>69646833
>what is lithium mining and battery disposal
>>69646104
>240V
>electrician
lolwut? It's identical to a washer/dryer plug. My house has 4 of them, two hooked up to the washer/dryer, one hooked to the water heater and one for my EVSE.
And most electric companies will install these for free btw.
>>69646929
Insurance does not cover standard maintenance. A battery needing to be replaced after 10 years is considered standard maintenance. Same as a transmission needing to be replaced after 100k miles. Do you even own a car?
>>69646833
Holy shit stop! I can't take it much more!
>>69646845
Ask the Tesla dealer for the Truvada package it's fabulous.
>>69646998
So your garage already has a dedicated circuit to a single plug?
>>69646933
>mfw I didn't have to sit through shitty Simpsons scenes like this as a kid
feels pretty good actually.
I'm actually embarrassed for you
>>69645556
you're retarded for living more than 80 miles from your workplace
>>69647066
>you're gay if you want this car
Do you own stock in some big oil company, or some car company or something? Where is the motivation to suppress the growth of new technology coming from?
>>69646998
That is split dual leg single phase = retard power. Boy are you fucking stupid.
>>69638570
This nigger here gets it. I make 111k a year and drive a 2010 jetta, cost me 9k with only 11k miles.
I save so much cash
>>69647187
Not living in an all white neighborhood
>>69638570
driving a shitbox is a status symbol in itself
>>69647030
I suppose the definition of standard maintenance is a different animal in regards to the tesla battery being that batteries are considered standard maintenance. Im sure you understood my point of view. That being said Tesla has a battery program. I do own a car….pic related. Post yours.
>>69647385
How so? I myself drive a 14 year old car and in no way is it a status symbol. Embarrassingly enough my car is the oldest one in the employee parking lot where I work, most people here have cars that are 5 years old or less.
>>69647187
I dont. Its just the whole argument is over gas being more convenient than electric then when i mention the 200+ range people are saying its over kill. Its kind of the foundation of the thread, the range that is. More range = better.
>>69647233
This is not new technology. It is a scam. I would debate Elon Musk and rape his fucking brain. I am self-taught expert on electromotive and power transmission. My farmageddon in Kentucky Staat US has most things running on 400-1000hz 3 phase. I was burning custom controllers for MagneTek/Yaskawa/Omron variable frequency inverters when I was 12. You are literally a fat fucking gullible shitbag bemoobed slump shouldered fauxtechcuck.
It's all a scam and him dumping patents is all part of it. Tesla = hair plug'd monorail scam kike. I guarantee that I can literally make him cry if he has the fucking balls to do it.
>>69647881
Is this so!e variant of the 300 kills pasta?
>>69647694
Status isnt always positive
>>69647881
Thank you for the fresh pasta
But honestly, if you're so capable of exposing his incompetence and embarrassing him then why dont you do it via youtube or something
>>69647992
I know who he ripped his motors design from. You are not smart enough to hang with us. We are all really fucking rich smart salty dudes. He is a soft focus infomatic scammer. Tesla = Loss. Musk = Loser.
>>69648028
Ahh, I see
>>69638407
nice b8 m8
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