Why the fuck is Trump calling for the withdraw from protecting South Korea and Japan but not withdrawing support for Israel?
Personally I value Japan and South Korea as allies far more than Israel, and find support of them and a commitment to our alliance with them more worthwhile than the manipulative that the nation state of Israel.
I say ditch Israel and reaffirm our commitment to Japan and South Korea. South Koreans especially love us and I abhor the idea of abandoning them.
Getting involved in the middle east has caused us nothing but problems such as 9/11.
If I were ever to be drafted I would much rather fight and die for Japan and South Korea protecting them than I ever would for Israel.
What;s wrong with Trump on this issue?
>>69556097
I could never pick up arms against any person, I just believe killing is wrong period, that's why I'm against capital punishment.
I would either have to dodge the draft hypothetically by applying for moral exemption or they would have to put me in the kitchen. I don't want to risk my immortal soul for any cause. I just could not fight for my country on the battlefield. I could work in the kitchen or at a desk sure, but picking up arms, absolutely not.
there are no american troops here (unlike in the countries you mentioned,there are several usaf over there)
>>69556097
because it would be political suicide.
also this >>69556402
Nicu postu anon-kun~desu
^_^
The middle east has oil.
>>69556097
Please tell me we will only provide aid if Israel is truly attacked and not aid in some expansionist or proxy Israeli war.
>>69556468
How would it be political suicide?
>>69556097
>cant even answer suck simple question
why live?
>>69556097
>Personally I value Japan and South Korea as allies far more than Israel, and find support of them and a commitment to our alliance with them more worthwhile than the manipulative that the nation state of Israel.
>I say ditch Israel and reaffirm our commitment to Japan and South Korea. South Koreans especially love us and I abhor the idea of abandoning them.
Do you have any kind of real strategic or political reason for this, other than "I like anime and Asian chicks"?
I'm a total isolationist and this does confuse me. In my opinion the U.S. should back out of all defense treaties, close all military bases, cease international intervention and foreign aid, and phase out trade to a minimum. Wars should only be fought if the U.S. is invaded.
Trump is the closest to that somehow
>>69556097
>Personally I value Japan and South Korea as allies far more than Israel
Maybe you could try going 2 weeks without chimping out and raping another native then.
>>69556097
We should withdraw protection from Israel, unless they want to pay for it, same goes for everywhere else. But let's be honest, most people in America love Israel for reasons they can't explain, especially those Jesus niggers. The fucking pray for Israel and they don't even know why. If Trump suggested withdrawing from Israel he'd probably lose a lot of support. I mean he's already being criticized for wanting to take a neutral stance on the Israel-Palestine issue
>>69556545
Are you really this ignorant? Israel = Jews proud "state" and the Jews own the politics in america, so obviously if he said fuck off to Israel they would ruin his campaign
>>69556097
I think we should divert all funds going to Israel and start sending them to support and aid Japan. I think Japan holds the future for humanity.
I think they hold the key to future medical and technological breakthroughs and that they should be considered our number one ally in the world.
>>69556739
They know why, it has to do with end day prophecies thats why evangelicals are so interested in Israel, which is a stupid reason to influence foreign policy.
>>69556781
Actually they very may well hold the fountain of youth in their hands in the future, if anyone came up with a way to achieve immortality it would be the Japanese.
>>69556609
Id say the fact that South Korea and Japan have helped America in wars with actual military contributions. Israel hasnt done jack.
American politics revolve around who can choke on kike dick the hardest.
His foreign policy in general with allies is "pay up or we leave".
>>69556097
i bet he feels the same way about israel, but if he said it aloud, even he knows, it would be political suicide.
>>69556781
>>69556890
>Asians
>innovation
All they do is copy shit Americans make and make a better/more plentiful version of it, take your rose colored glasses off. I understand this is a weeb site but I really don't get the baseless worship of Japan here?
Regardless, they aren't doing much technologically now in up and coming spaces like Biotech, AI, etc. Whether or not this has something to do with their declining young population, or just stagnation on their part I don't know. Their golden age was the 80s-2000s. China and India, despite being shitty(and even Israel) are creating companies in these spaces, so I'd place my bets on them more than Japan.
>>69556891
>Israel has nukes
>gooks don't
That's all the reason I need to support them. Not that I approve of what the Jews do, but strategically I'm going to support the people with nukes and who dominate global power.
If usa abandons israel it's over for them. Not sure why jews don't kiss american ass more and why usa just goes full charity. Usa has no buisness in middle east.
they aren't at war for one. Plus, mobilization wouldnt be as slow a process as in past decades.
I agree with his point that the us shouldnt be paying half the cost of keeping troops there. They get our support, but they need to pay for it. (either that or they can defend theirselves)
Also with all the shit thats coming out of the Middle East, there needs to be something done. I guess Siding with Israel is the direction he sees fit
>>69557197
What the hell kind of foreign policy is that??
IF your best friend calls you up saying his house is own ferocious fire, do you go over and help out of allegiance, or do you say, pay me 50 bucks and I'll help you.
We should be committed to our allies because one day we may need their help.
>>69557451
>IF your best friend calls you up saying his house is own ferocious fire, do you go over and help out of allegiance, or do you say, pay me 50 bucks and I'll help you.
First 100 fires for free. We're beyond that now and our best friends still burning their houses expecting the free help.
>>69557283
>All they do is copy shit Americans make and make a better/more plentiful version of it, take your rose colored glasses off. I understand this is a weeb site but I really don't get the baseless worship of Japan here?
>Regardless, they aren't doing much technologically now in up and coming spaces like Biotech, AI, etc.
WRONG.
Japan is so on the edge and so far ahead of us technologically they have found a way to turn poop into meat, so that literally we can take our own waste and feed people, by taking the protein out of poop, and making poop steaks out of it.
That is ingenious.
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2011/06/17/japanese-scientists-create-meat-from-poop.html
Instead of a soylent green future when we run out of food instead of eating eachother we can eat eachother's poop, Japan might just have saved the world from starving with poop meat.
>>69556402
You receive more "aid" from the US than any other nation on earth. The IDF is an American-made army
>>69556097
Trump DID call for cutting aid to Israel though.
>>69557451
No, this is more like your friend burned down his house, and now you need to help him cover 50% the cost to rebuild it. Trump is saying build it yourself, or pay up!
>>69556097
The US is here as a forward deployment in case we need to mobilize in the pacific theatre of opperations. Of course I would vote for anyone who will remove kebab but USFK/USFJ isn't just for the RoK's and Japan's protection
>>69556097
Because Israel threaten the West with nuclear annihilation should we abandon them, the East Asians do not.
>>69557715
Japan is the robotics r&d capital of the world.
Because he wants to take back the oil and put order in the middle east. And hes right in doing so
>>69557715
>poop meat
>>69556402
What is Task Force Sinai for 500 Alex.
>>69557715
I guess all that Japanese poop porn was part of their research.
>>69557946
They're actually burger like, they're burgers made out of poop protein.
>>69557715
India just became the world's biggest meat exporter.
>>69558009
Korea and Japan > Jews. Always
>>69556097
israel makes no money, but is our only ally in that region. s korea and japan make a lot of money, a lot.
>>69558116
This is truly the poo century.
https://www.rt.com/news/south-korea-us-military-470/
Except the US is getting at least something out of the Koreans.
They foot half the bill for keeping the soldiers there.
>>69557451
Who's house is on fire? It's more like your mates house was on fire so you went over and helped then it was out. You helped rebuild then you stuck around to make sure it didn't get put on fire again. Now you're there just waiting. Now your fucking house is falling apart and your mate wants you to stay but you can't afford it unless he starts paying you for your help.
>>69557715
Japan is not ahead of America technologically you moron, the fact that you use "poop meat" to illustrate your point makes me think you're a "Jokes on you I was just pretending to be retarded" troll.
Japan is far behind us in military - their jet fighters(arguably the hardest military tech to develop) are a licensed clone of an American design, India and China developed their own from scratch. They don't have nuclear weapons because "muh feels". Their submarines(which are actually bretty gud) use American Air-independent-propulsion systems. Poolooland, meanwhile, developed their own from scratch .
In space? Japan tried to put a probe on Mars and failed. Poolooland succeeded. China tried and also failed. EU space agency succeeded.
In Physics? Japan is not even a CERN member state despite being one of the most developed Asian countries. Fucking Pakistan(full of inbred muslims that tote around RPGs), meanwhile, is.
In computing? Japan once had the world's fastest supercomputer(using processor designs and instruction sets developed in the US), but lost their position to China and later the US.
Even in consumer electronics, Japan has next to no market share in mobile phones, which is dominated by Apple, Samsung(Korean), and Xiaomi and Huawei(Chinese).
They make good cars, TVs, and cameras. But obviously the next revolution in cars is electric cars, and Japan has no electric car companies as far as I know. As I said, they aren't creating new companies or innovating non-incrementally in any field at the moment.
>>69557896
For toy/consumer robots? Maybe. For robots that actually do useful things, no.
>>69558116
10/10
India confirmed superpower by 2030
>>69558116
I wonder if there will ever be a restaurant that only serves poop meat burgers, and all the meat comes from India and all the workers are Indian.
Would any of you ever be willing to try a poop meat sandwich? And if you were to eat the poop of any nation's of people which nation would you prefer? Which would you least like to eat?
>>69558420
How is poop meat not a miracle invention? Seriously, that's pretty damn awesome.
>>69558515
>why_cant_we_be_friends.wav
>>69556097
I don't know why he does it precisely.
My guess is he wants a multipolar world.
However this would be a boon to Japan. It's about time they took their own destiny in their hands again.
>>69556097
You know because of America defending Japan, Japan's defense industry is pretty much dead, right?
Like Japan can't even build proper carriers.
They have to call them "helicopter carriers", instead.
I would love to see a modern Japanese jetfighter as well.
It gets pretty boring when you only have Russian or American jetfighters and the occasional Chinese jetfighter in the news.
>>69558420
They lead the world in video game advancement, and those video game devices are being used for real life applications like the study of black holes.
http://www.iflscience.com/technology/scientists-builds-supercomputer-playstations-study-black-holes
>>69558607
If God wanted a non polar world, he wouldn't have given us Free Will.
>>69558448
I'd rather be a cannibal. Chicken fried human? Human adobo? Human Asada tacos? Anybody with me on that...
South Korea exports: Smartphones, TVs, gritty films, Kpop
Japan: Anime, Sushi, Video games, porn
Israel exports: Lobbyists, Orders to invade middle east countries, anorexic actresses, kosher chocolate
http://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Israeli-Certified-Kosher-Chocolate/dp/B0035H80FW
>>69556097
Everyone knows why. Regardless of "self funding," he's still bending a knee to jews.
>>69558420
Are you an inbred redneck who doesn't keep up with the latest tech news?
Japan's robotics are ahead of America and that is why Google ended up buying several Japanese robotics companies.
And sorry but the next revolution ain't gonna be Electric Cars which produce more waste than a regular car considering how toxic electric car batteries and the money required to safely dispose of electric car batteries.
Electric cars are a meme.
Elon Musk would go bankrupt if he didn't have government subsidies to keep him afloat, selling his meme electric cars.
Hydrogen Cars actually look like the future, not your shitty electric cars.
>>69557775
What is afghanistan that recieves 4.5 billion a year yet you say nothing about thay
>>69556097
we don't really support Israel with our troops tho. Here's how it really works:
>give "aid $$$ to Israel"
>strings attached
>Israel aid money can only purchase weapon system from Boeing, Lockheed, etc
>Jews in America lobby for this
>it's how money get shifted back into the pockets of the military industrial complex
>other industrial conplexs do the same thing in writing laws to benefit themselves
Israel is just another proxy for funneling tax money into corporations.
Whereas in South Korea and Japan, the troops are a staging point to pressure China on a multi-level strategy. Israel can already defend itself and they have nukes. Sand niggers aren't going to destroy Israel ever. Asia on the other hand is a different beast. That's why troops are stationed there.
>>69557715
Wait if we have this kind of technology and power why aren't we sending all of our human waste to Africa to feed the starving children with poop meat?
>>69558420
Most health devices in America come from Japanese companies.
Your CT Machines, your endoscopes, etc
>>69559044
Money is an illusion the only thing that really matters is weaponry
>>69558116
>India just became the world's biggest meat exporter.
I wonder if they would leave the curry in or out of the poop meat?
>>69558723
>It gets pretty boring when you only have Russian or American jetfighters and the occasional Chinese jetfighter in the news.
Russia hasn't built anything cool for a while, probably on account of their economy being in the shitter. EU, France, and India also build jet fighters. Chinese ones are just stolen US tech like everything else they come up with.
>>69558788
>muh vidya
OK you guys are officially trolling or just this retarded.
>>69559094
They manufacture the devices that were invented in America, yes? What innovation do they do in that field?
>>69558420
>Even in consumer electronics
You only mention mobile phones, but don't even mention laptops, hard drives, etc
I guess this shows how retarded you are.
>>69559046
Can no one tell that the dude is obviously photoshopped into this? Look at his butt, what is he sitting on? Pretty pathetic that AMWF is so nonexistent they literally have to photoshop images to make it true
>>69558805
>If God wanted a non polar world, he wouldn't have given us Free Will.
Are you a follower of Psychologist B. F. Skinner and his theory that free will is an illusion and that we are essentially slaves to our environment?
>>69559005
Disposable batteries? You dumb mother fucker they're tesla rechargeable fucks.
>>69559278
Honestly senpai why are you triggered? I like posting amwf cause it makes pol uppity for some reason
>>69556097
>>69557715
I would love to see poop meat become a regular ad/banner on 4chan.
He may take a more stern tone with Israel after he's elected. In any case, one step at a time. Remember, despite your consumption of chink cartoons, gooks don't care about you anymore than a kike does.
>>69556662
What do you think the consequences for this would be? I'd say you'd end up a lot worse off.
>>69559267
>laptops
Toshiba laptops are and always were flimsy shit and Japan doesn't even have major market share in laptops, pic related. Dominated by American, Chinese, Taiwanese companies.
>hard drives
SSDs(which are getting cheaper by the day and most new laptops/PCs ship with), are dominated by Samsung(Korean) and a consortium of American companies. Japan still makes shitty slow HDDs. Again, driving my point home that they aren't doing anything new in tech or even getting with the new trends that other manufacturers are.
But I guess I'm still "retarded".
>>69556402
Total lie
>>69559332
Implying those batteries last
>>69556097
Trump has no fucking idea what he's doing or talking about.
News at last year O'clock.
/pol/ about to be an hero
who cares about that scrub Musk, he's about to get fucked by his ex wife and become irrelevant
>>69559005
>the next revolution ain't gonna be Electric Cars which produce more waste than a regular car considering how toxic electric car batteries and the money required to safely dispose of electric car batteries.
>disposing of a battery once every few years is somehow more wasteful than driving around a gas engine car that emits whenever the engine is running
OK. Last I checked hydrogen cell technology was going absolutely nowhere, Tesla has cars on the market that people buy. There are now almost more Tesla charging stations than gas station in NY. And Japan isn't doing jack in either field, so it doesn't matter.
>>69557283
>All they do is copy shit Americans make and make a better/more plentiful version of it
Give some examples pls.
>they aren't doing much technologically now in up and coming spaces like Biotech, AI, etc.
Define "aren't doing much"? In relation to what and from who?
>Japan has no electric car companies as far as I know
Faggot. Why even mention it if you don't know anything about it.
>Nissan Leaf
>Mitsubishi iMiev
>Toyota Mirai (FCV but uses EV propulsion)
And don't argue "electric-only car company". Why in fuck would a start up company do that in Japan when Toyota would buy them out the moment they produced a working prototype?
>that's actually what happens IRL
>>69559840
>more Tesla charging stations than gas station in NY.
New York is more than Manhattan.
>>69559859
>Give some examples pls.
Um, everything? Cars, TVs, modern computers, cellular phones, video games, etc. were all invented by Americans/westerners. Or are you going to give me some we wuz kangs tier bullshit about how Japan invented all of these things?
>those electric cars
Those are poor attempts at best, nobody buys them and they are spearheaded by mega billion dollar companies already content to rest on their laurels from their regular car sales.
>Why in fuck would a start up company do that in Japan when Toyota would buy them out the moment they produced a working prototype?
Why the fuck would you not do that? If you get bought out you make bank. Or do Japanese people hate money?
Anyways David, don't you have some english papers to go grade?
>>69556402
What about the fucking billions in aid jew
>>69560429
Wait is he displaying the names of those with google... what the fuck? Bryan Grant, is that your name?
You guys were right our information is being sold!
>>69560438
Holy shit man. You dont get to claim that innovation is copying. Or are you going to seriously say that anyone who makes their own Cars, TVs, Computers, Cellphones, games etc is just copying you.
>>69560438
Funny how you try to take credit from Europeans in your last post when America didn't invent everything.
>>69560710
Calm down Peggy, no one cares about a few autists on a Mongolian throat singing forum
>>69561055
It's april fools faggot. we all got names. we are all name fags.
>>69557283
> copy shit Americans make
oh shit I want to hear this
what has Americans made that Asians have copied? you realise the that's a dumb fucking statement right?
>>69556097
Citizens of japan are calling for the withdrawal of American military personnel as well as the dismantling of American military bases. This is not abandoning an ally, but conducting the will of the Japanese people. This was first instigated on the island of Okinawa. To withdraw is the logical and moral thing to do.
It's moments like these that I remember why I even come to this board. To watch /pol/ cannibalize itself and backpedal for than any politician makes it worth it.
The whole time I've been coming here, /pol/ has swore that Israel was not America's ally. Not only that they have always said Japan was our top ally.
Now Trump says the opposite and the whole board loves Israel and makes fun of Japan.
The people here are nothing more than retarded sheep.
>>69561618
>Abraham Moss
>Abraham
I found the JIDF guys! Maybe these new boards are better.
>>69561618
When will you come home, White man?
>>69561984
What on earth are you talking about?
>>69562145
That guys name id was Abraham Moss. Abraham is a Jewish name.
>>69556097
>South Koreans especially love us and I abhor the idea of abandoning them.
Yeah, but South Korea have never attacked and killed American soldiers or spied on America. Israel on the other hand HAVE done those things, what would they do if there was even less support?
>>69561984
Oy vey, goy. Move along, there is nothing to see here
>>69562539
ah, the classic Jewish name change game.
try again, KIKE.
GET BACK ON SUBJECT YOU TRUMP FAGGOTS
DEFEND HIM BEING A ZIONIST
>>69562303
>>69562145
>>69561993
>>69561158
I didn't realize we had so many women on 4chan...
I thought 90% of these boards are male.
>>69563041
We gender equality now sister, fuck the white man
>>69562875
Calm down Ruby. I think Trump makes up a lot of his positions as he goes along hence that abortion bungle.
>>69563172
It will make my day if someone draws the name Adolf Hitler.
>>69563294
We know the last name Roach is in the ballot so Im waiting for a Turk to draw it.
>>69560710
>>69560771
>>69560778
>Peggy Smith
>Kelly Willis
>Etta Trujillo
>Earl Barker
Where the hell are they getting these names, all these names sound like trailer trash.
>>69559563
>laptops
LEL, ok gramps. How's your tower PC by the way? The fuck outta here.
>He thinks the Japs don't own those Taiwanese and Chink companies
Wew lad
>>69562804
No, no, goy, you've got it all wrong.
>>69562804
>>69557715
>fucking poop steaks
Hahahahaha gold
>>69556097
Are all the threads here being detoured by April fools?
>>69564239
>poop
Would you eat one Gordon?
>>69558116
Well done Luigi.
>>69559278
His legs also disappear at the water surface while hers don't
>>69565125
>>69558116
Indeed, a job well done.
Someone fetch Luigi here a tall cold beer.
Now you enjoy that now boy.
>>69565125
>>69558116
Indeed, a job well done.
Someone fetch Luigi here a tall cold beer.
Now you enjoy that now boy...
>>69556097
Has Google bought 4chan from our Asian ovrlord?
>>69556097
Pure coincidence.
>>69558420
Japan had been number one in robotics for literally decades. They use it chiefly in heavy industry, eg automotive plants. This is common knowledge. Has been since the 80s.
>>69568380
Korea has been beating japan consistently in robotics.
>>69559044
Aid to afghanistan is a one off project and is a continuation of the war. Eventually it will be cut back dramatically once the country either stabilizes or the US realized that it's not worth the candle. It is not relevant to our discussion.
Israel has been the number one recipient for decades and will continue to be so for decades, and, unlike with Afghanistan, which holds the promise of access to the gas reserves in central Asia, the richest in the world, support for Israel offers nothing but extraordinary liabilities. Israel's hyper-belligerant foreign policy has been the number one source of tension in the middle east for decades, and unnecessarily so.
They act with such bravado partly because they believe the US will support them no matter what. It's like the drunken asshole friend in the club that loves to start fights and then expects his friends to automatically help out if things go bad. Fuck that. I say cut Israel loose and teach them a lesson. At the very least, it'll save America tons of money and will end its relationship with this most embarrassing of states.
Because US never "protected" Israel, you oblivious fucking dimwit?
US has huge bases in the Worst Korea, and lost 35,000 troops dead and hundreds of thousands wounded protecting it from Best Korea.
All US did for Israel is vetoing a couple of UN resolutions.
And yeah, I know stormfaggot
>MUH USS LIBERTY YOU EVIL ZOG!
Eavesdropping from a third party during a war might get you burned, fatburgers. Hardly "protecting".
>>69559046
It's a mix. Yes the money gets funneled back to US materiel dealers, but the IDF actually does benefit and is as a result is more militarily powerful than all the other middle eastern militaries combined. And that is a useful thing to the US, as it now has a proxy in the middle east that can knock some heads if the bribed Arab leaders ever get out of line (i.e defies the US's Grand Strategy). This is explicit policy, with Israel playing the role of "the cop on the beat", as Nixon put it. So the relationship is chiefly strategic in nature. The profits generated by the MIC is just a nice ancillary benefit for US industry.
>>69561342
Basically all moder tech: computers, cameras, cars, TVs, etc. The US invented them, produced then, and then Japan started to produce them too (and to much higher standards of quality and with thoughtful modifications), but Japan hasn't invented from scratch big ticket consumer technologies yet. There's nothing necessarily anything wrong with it. The "criticism" would never have even happened were it not for the US's insecurity over its not being able to effectively compete against japan's manufacturing, which everyone knows is best in the world. Who wants to buy Kodak? Japan's quality control is legendary.
>>69568771
For r&d?
>>69558116
and india just had a bridge collapse due to excess weight from a build up of feces
>>69571149
The US is your sole ally in the world, and it happens to be the sole military superpower, and they remain Israel's friend despite the latter's belligerent foreign policy, so yes everyone in the world believes that you enjoy protection - diplomatic, economic and if necessary, military - from the US. That alters other states' behaviour towards Israel and that confers a very real added security benefit for Israel.
>>69556097
>I abhor the idea of abandoning them.
They have to pay for it. What's with this paternalism of entire nations, they should develop their own military a nukes and pay for it with their own tax dollars.
as for israel, keep your enemies closer.
>>69556739
>most people in America love Israel for reasons they can't explain, especially those Jesus nigger
Make israel an american vassal state, force them at nuke point like the french did the germans to force them into the euro.
>>69557715
>Japan is so on the edge and so far ahead of us
The only thing japan has given us that was worth while was candle stick charting and gyaru.
>>69558344
>They foot half the bill
>half
not good enough.
all or none.
>>69558420
>But obviously the next revolution in cars is electric cars
Fuck this. where are my nuke powered cars?
I've been waiting for 30 years for this.
