So what was the deal with Russia? I wasn't really taught much about them. I learned the basics about the collapse and the soviets, sure. But surely there must be more to it?
What was Russia like? Why'd it collapse? What actually happened with the soviets?
All this past tense.
>>69551282
Well, Vlad, I'm assuming that soviet and imperial russia did indeed collapse. Feel free to tell me more, as a fellow majority white cold country.
Y'know, before both of us are flooded and outbred by arabs.
The jews happened
>>69551161
proletarian heaven, don't you know?
That why people built boats to reach their shores. And risked their lifes jumping fences and walls to get there.
People literally risked their lives and were shot at to get into the working class heaven over a wall that was meant to keep dirty capitalists out!
>>69551395
This wouldn't surprise me. I've heard that jewish communists were a big problem in pre-hitler Germany.
>>69551161
Read "Damned days" by Bunin and "Quiet runs the Don" by Sholokhov to get the real perspective.
It's impossible to say in 2 words.
Majority really believed in the "world fire" and "socialism", but they were led by the jews and the revolution made by thugs (all prisons freed) and no-lifers (people who had nothing because they never worked and just wanted to pillage the "rich").
>>69551728
>(people who had nothing because they never worked and just wanted to pillage the "rich").
Wasn't Marx himself a layabout?
I suppose the victims of such a revolution may find solace in setting a good example of why socialism will never work. Shame Europe and the Americas ignored the message.
How is Russia now? Do you guys have any desire to reclaim your past? In truth I'm a bit envious. We Canadians have no grand monuments to our past, and even what we have is covered in native blood that we cannot stop punishing ourselves for.
>>69551898
How is France now post-revolution? How's Britain past "deimperialization"?
"Enlightened" progressivist revolutions poison all they touch. Russia will never be the same.
>>69553838
They aren't. But that's because England likes to pretend it didn't completely abandon it's identity and France is nothing but gypsies, niggers and muslims.
But Russia. You guys had an intense revolution. After communism died off did you not search for an identity among the ashes of your past?
>>69551161
Inb4 the butthurt belt brigade shows up. I think Russia to its credit is the single biggest generator of butthurt in the past 200 years or so.
>>69553969
We searched and found none. Suicide rates and alchohol consumption skyrocketed. For about a decade Russia was just a pained mess asking "why live?" and finding no reason to.
And now, we have found some measure of will to live, some pride - but only a little.
>>69554307
How do you define yourselves now? What do you value?
I ask because Russian girls supposedly have the biggest tits on average. I hate to see amazing tits go to waste.
>>69554645
> How do you define yourselves now?
Semi-nationalistic poorfags with soul. Ready to die for the Motherland even if it is considered as a shithole even by our own heads of the State.
> What do you value?
World domination and family in general. Can't reach none of it unfortunately nowadays. Too weak to dominate the world, too poor to have healthy and happy families.
Of course there are some guys who wish Russia to burn. They also want to have welfare lifestyle in USA or EU countries.
>>69554948
Has the family structure in Russia really collapsed?
>>69551161
There was the USSR which was a shitload of countries joined together, controlled by Russia. People even used to call it Russia. It had about the same number of people as the USA and there was a huge military staredown after WW2 which lasted about 50 years.
They got poor from invading Afghanistan and then they broke up into 15-20 nations.
Now Russia (one of the group of countries) is making noise and rattling cages and trying to be big and important again but they're really not.
The only reason Russia is relavant is it still has nukes.
>>69555038
Not really. It became better. There are many benefits from Putin's government for young families. They give enough money to pay your, umm, I don't know if you have such term in your country or not, but when you take mortgage in Russia you should pay nearly 20% of your home price instantly. Government gives it to young families with 2 children so they can easily afford 2 bedroom apartment in big cities. I don't know about Moscow or Saint-P but my sister in Novosibirsk did it.
Anyway there are still many poor families who can't even buy clothes sometimes.
>>69555211
>New Zealand
>speaking about being relevant
95% of all the people who know that your country exists found out after the LoTR movies.
>>69555038
A lot of divorces, a lot of single mothers. Family structure is heavily wounded, but I wouldn't say it has collapsed. A full healthy family with classical gender roles is still seen as something positive, something to strive for.
On the topic of world domination, that other rusanon may be using too strong a term. I think it's not world domination we seek, but pride in our nation and our country, pride we have been denied for quite some time. These days we are even willing to delude ourselves into feeling pride, regardless of whether the reasons are real or imagined, and can forgive almost anything to someone (read: Putin) who can promise us some. Even if we suspect that he may be unable to deliver it, or outright lieing to us.
>>69555381
Down payment
>>69555486
Yeah, that guy speaks the truth. This is not just hope, this is willing. Willing to live comfortable and proud life.
>>69555569
Thank you USbro.
So... if visas were offered, would you leave? Or is Russia worth staying for?
>>69555381
How is your schooling? Do you have Canada's problem of aggressive leftist pandering from a young age?
>>69555486
Do you foresee Putin being forced out any time soon?
Honestly, you Ruskies intrigue me. I think it'd be good if Canada and Russia became buddies. It'd certainly shake off our reputation as a US vassal country.
>>69551161
Read this book, Reality of Communism by Alexander Zinoviev.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/11855382
It is impossible to explain in two words. Russia and Communism are Worlds if their own.
And please do not fall for the Joos meme if to really want to understand things.
>>69551161
Party elite and nomenclature leaders make a fake democratic revolution by which such families now own 99% of state properties.
>>69555728
I personally wouldn't.
a)Abandoning your countries for a better pay is how we got to the shit situation the world is now. People don't protect their homelands anymore,they just move.
b) Right now there is no better place to leave for,talking into account the refugees.
>>69555759
Schooling is pretty shit,but not in terms of liberal agenda,just in terms of teachers are being horrible underpaid so the quality is dropping hard.
And Putin,I reckon,will be gone when he's in a pine box. There's nobody to even try to force him out.
>>69555759
>Do you foresee Putin being forced out any time soon?
If Putin falls, Russia will fall into chaos. Comparable with Syria and Assad. Putin holds ALL the different strings together that would otherwise become barbed wire.
>>69555728
I would really like to visit USA for a month or two. Rent a nice V8 car and ride from East Coast to West Coast enjoying nice Wild West nature and perfect LA city. But I don't think I want to stay there.
>>69555759
Our schooling is really depends on what pupils are. In rural areas and small town schools are generally zoos full of drunk ass retards' children for example.
I personally studied at kinda elite gymnasium and everything was really fine. We even studied math analysis basics in High School. Nobody used to brainwash us with some propaganda except of Victory Day and other Soviet heritage stuff. But this is really widespread in Russia therefore not new.
>>69555759
No. Forcing Putin out requires admitting that there is nothing to be proud of in current situation - and that's something we are extremely unwilling to do now. Besides, why should we? He is not the best leader, but he is definetely not the worst, especially given the craptastic leaders we had before him.
>>69556022
I didn't even know male gymnists exist. Do they try to force soviet shit down your throat? Or does Russia collectively realize that was a disaster?
>>69555921
Are you saying russia lacks a coloured underclass?
Canada has natives, US has niggers, etc
>>69556180
> I didn't even know male gymnists exist
Well it was not only for males. Just high funded governmental school. High tech and other shit. We had girls there too.
> Do they try to force soviet shit down your throat?
No, they just organize patriotic lessons twice a year and university guys read lectures about Russian history. You can choose if you want to listen it or not. This is what it used to be like in my school. But things can be different in another one.
>>69556180
The coloured underclass is here,and while it is unpleasant to look at mudslimes,they aren't chimping out. So the situation is marginally better than,say,France,Germany and other countries taking mudslimes in.
>>69556180
Well, speaking of colored underclass, we have illigal migrants from various Central Asia former Soviet countries (pic related).
But they are not citizens.
Modern Russia is:
1) corrupt
2) undereducated
3) religious
4) revanchist
5) consumeristic
6) multicultural
7) hopeless
>>69556361
>>69556382
And yeah, there are African guys from Angola or Congo too. They act like US niggers (listen to rap music, wear oversized clothes, etc). Some of them sell weed, but there are not many of them.
>>69551161
It's dying. Slowly painful death.
Nothing is worth here or make sense.
After 20 years or so it will be devided and separated into independant parts.
I wish for a free Ural and Syberia from Moscow.
>>69556491
Really? In Moscow I've seen niggers in 2 places exclusively - in unis,quietly shuttling between the dorms and the classrooms,and by the entrances to the metro,handing out leaflets.
Also, Russians, honest question.
What's with the squatting?
>>69551161
socialism.
>>69556653
Nobody squat now.
Seriously this meme is like 20 years old get over with it.
>>69556562
I study in Saint-P now and yeah, Universities is the place where you meet them during daytime. But if you go hangout on some night life street or a party you will meet them more relaxed and acting as I mentioned. I can't say that I hate them or I afraid them, just this is very exotic even for Saint-P and Russia in general.
>>69556653
This is an old meme. But it's a comfortable thing. I'm into University athletics team and I squat everytime I need a rest and there is no bench nearby.
The government is liberal reforms, for 20+ years, destroying the social support from the state. Government criticizes the "liberals" and "decadent West" are to blame for everything bad.
>>69556653
Was in squat week ago. Do not listen to faggot which tell that there is no squatting in Russia nowadays. They do not know the places.
>>69557247
Tы cквoты c cидeниeм нa кopтaх нe пyтaй.
>>69557395
Иди нaхyй, плиз.
>>69555759
Nigga, Putin is elected president. We have election and shit. Miss me with that Putin's regime shit.
>>69556421
>1) corrupt
Like all the people.
>2) undereducated
Like all the people.
>3) religious
Like all the people.
>4) revanchist
Like all the people.
>5) consumeristic
Like all the people.
>6) multicultural
Like all the people.
>7) hopeless
Like all the people.
>>69557809
Oльгинeц зa paбoтoй.
Hello Sergeis do you know of any good books about slavic mythology and about the fall of russian empire?
Russia is a country that will die if Putin's successor is weak.
>>69559839
>Ronnie Frazier
what
>>69551161
>cant beat 'em join 'em
USSR collapsed because it ran out of money trying to keep up with the west in the arms race. A planned economy can't match the efficiency of laissez-faire.
>>69551161
Basically Peter the Great introduced radical reforms to make Russia more western (look at Pietropawłowsk Stronghold or w/e its name is) and raped all russian heads, also killed a lot of people in the process. The scope of social engineering of Peter the Great was so big that all russian elites turned completely to the West and had disdain for the Russians, including anarchists, socialists and communists. Also Russia was repressive towards minorities. All this contributed to the hate towards tsardom and when a crisis came it was exploited by those groups and now Russians cry b-buh we dindu nufin, we were good bois and communists were bad
>>69560244
USSR suffered from the fall in oil prices in the 80s. The country has received food from abroad, in exchange for "oil" money. When there was enough food - not the USSR was.
Would an expatriate easily fit in to the working life over there?
I've read that the airlines have been allowed to take on foreign pilots if they are fluent in Russian.
I was planning on learning the language anyway but the industry here is a shambles and I'd really like to live overseas for a few years or more.
I've been to Russia (Moscow, V-grad, Elista & between) for two weeks. I got accused of being American by a spiteful woman there who became friendly when she found that I was Australian.
Would this work, from the social aspect?
>>69562772
It is necessary to obtain a work permit. Maybe something else.
How much does alcoholism contribute to the situation?
>>69564925
USSR/Russia used to claim to have no unemployed. People were sent to jobs where there was nothing to do. You couldn't be fired. So people would just show up and get loaded all day.
>>69555480
>>69567092
Alcohol was a way to escape from reality and have fun. The entertainment was not enough. 2 television channel, which showed propaganda "how to live well in the USSR and how bad life abroad." In libraries, the book about "how to live well in the USSR and how bad life abroad." To get a vinyl record foreign singers overpaid 5 times mediator.
>>69567092
>People were sent to jobs where there was nothing to do.
These welfare leeches working as engineers and useless assistants believed they will become rich in capitalist country. They believed evil communist state holds them in the cage and doesn't let them prosper. These useless people were primary public support for changes and destruction of USSR. Obviously they were wrong.
They remind me of migrants and blacks on welfare in the West.
>>69553969
My ancestors were farmers and small-scale capitalists. They were fully liberated by early 1870'ies.
After ~1921 they got 70 years of slavery (slavery, not serfdom - serfs at least had land to live off and Mir commune to support them), with our land taken away and poisoned, family members killed and WWII veterans (actual veterans, infantrymen in first rows) forgotten by the very state that gloat over this victory every single year.
Fuck modern Russian state. It is tolerable only while it helds our enemies at bay, never else.
And USA are literally our worst enemy, passing the tourch from Great Britain and Nazi Germany. I remember the 90'es and early 00'es. Fuck this librulism shit and Globalism. USA Hegemony is literally Russian Genocide, this is why Putin is tolerated and even sometimes praised by people that usually can't stand his breed at all.
So, 70 years of slavery plus ~15 years of degeneracy. A wasted century.
If God wanted to punish Russia for its sins, he sure did. If he prepares us for something by one fucking hundred years of nightmare, I'm not sure we'll like what we see once we would wake up inside.
>>69569239
>engineers
>welfare leeches
Fuck off,middle managment cunt,engineering was one of the most well-paid professions in USSR,and for good reason.
>>69570867
Go fuck yourself,. If you believe you parents did something important, you're wrong.
>>69571250
Where did you pull that idea from? I mentioned nothing about importance,you ignorant fuck. All I said was if we are talking about professions that can be disregarded as useless,engineering isn't fucking one of them.
>>69570389
I feel you so much, man
I should be happy that this country is somewhat waking up
>>69555486
It happens that fulfilling Russian life correlates with Eurasian dominance.
Russia is a plain. Nowhere to hide. Invasion from all sides.
Literally from all. Our first war was with Poland was in 981 when they tried to conquer our western fringe. In less than a century they've invaded us twice more, capturing Kiev every time. Crimea was first conquered by Russia in 868 or so because we had nomadic Jewish slaver empire raiding us constantly. An so on, and so on.
Classic imperial borders end in high mountains and/or impenetrable deserts. Finally in XIX century we were safe (XVIII we still had war with the last nomadic Dzungar empire burning our colonies in South Siberia) from all sides but the Great European Plain - and we recieved Napoleon, Hitler and Crimean war.
Stalingrad battle was Russia combined against half of Europe combined. I believe even Spaniards and French were present, not to speak of Italians or Romanians or Hungarians and the like.
So until Russia dominates Eurasia (that is, the world) or Europe burns to the groun, we well never be truly safe as our west is invaded by I fucking-lost-count how many times since 981.
You can say Slavs suddenly appeared out ot Pripyat Marshes in V-VI centuries and reverse-conquered half of Europe forging futury Russia after being fucking fed up with being raided and subjugated by some Goth and Sarmatians and the like constantly.
Russia and USA share this fear of foreign tyranny and act agressive on the defence, to fight for "freedom from fear". The difference is that USA was only once invaded after they've tried to conquer Canada, while Russia had to fend off invaders for more than a millenium. 1100 fucking years of wars and invasions, leave us the fuck alone.
We pushed borders to 1/3 of Eurasia not because we like big blobs of paint on maps.
>>69554948
>Welfare lifestyle in the USA and EU
You can't reallt have that lifestyle here unless you are a fat black lady pumping out children or something.
I have a feeling that the backlash in the USA from the American Left's hundred years of social liberalism is finally coming to a backlash, and although I don't personally like populism that much it may be necessary to put my country on the right track so we stop fucking with the world so negatively.
You won't get world domination regardless, unless an alliance is struck between us.
>>69571644
Funny flag. I have Polish blood from one family from Mazovia resettling near our lands to start a business in late 1890'es and bonding with us locals.
You can guess how these newly-blood-bonded guys and girls ended up after Soviet-Polish war of 1919-21. I was told that men tried a desperate run to the far West while women and children stayed behind hidden; we never heard from them or about them again.
Sadly I have nothing Polish left aside from some father-line grandmother's genetics and cool-sounding family surname (retaken long ago as some obscure fuck-you to Soviets after digging for roots, oh the youth). Imperial mindset and diverse origins don't cost shit I'm afraid.
tl;dr Russia is as dysgenic and corrupt as any other broadly European nation. We all have the same volume of problems, if specifics are different somewhat.
The only difference seems to be our finishing almost centennial Progressivist ride, while EU's and USA's are just starting.
>>69571973
>russia is victim
>they was Good kids minding own business
> they dindu nothing
Holy shit I used to laugh at dumb Americans with their ignorant jingoism but this is next level shit. After centuries of being ruled by despots they switch over to being ruled by communist dictators and now by authoritarian president, and they STILL blame everyone else for their suffering. Poor ruskies they are just being bullied everyone else is the problem....
>>69555486
would you be proud of nuking Warsaw?
you know, life free of fear, etc
>>69575510
You'll continue laughing after comissars Jamal Muhdickenson and Aaron Sheckelberg come to communize your cracka' ass.They'll laugh too, but only two of you three will have a good reason to do it.
Study the Russian Civil War and USSR history, you're for a replay.
>>69555038
Oh, about family structure. I have an absolutely gorgeous, faithful and home-loving wife.
Yet degeneracy around us is rampant. A large enough number of her school friends became strippers, paid girls of petty oligarchs, lesbian degenerates or gold-diggers in EU. Same for males, many are alcohol-soaked bydlo degenerates or lazy Mama's boys.
Yet I still have many normie male friends that protect and provide, and some of my wife's female acquaintances are also loyal and magnanimous wifes and house-keepers.
So Russia is neither Mordor nor White Promised Land. We're pretty normal, judging by the news from the West and comparing.
Bydlo gonna bydlo, while normies (pre-Soviet normal that is) will rebuild family traditions as we already do.
>>69575939
>this edge
There is a long list of revolutions that are infintely more likely than a communist one in America that includes but is not limitied to, a military coup, a "2nd American" revolution, even a retarded meme Aztlan one.
>>69570389
>serfs at least had land to live off
Except they didn't. The majority at least. Which was a major problem and one of the causes of revolutions.
>>69576891
I'll remind you that Bolsheviks, although taking name from "Bolshoy/Big (party block)", were always a minority.
Post-coup Russia was ruled by social-democrats and liberals after February till October. Bolsheviks tried a coup in April and totally failed, with Lenin hiding somewhere in Finland in a fucking tent. Everyone laughed at them failures, even if extremist and hyperactive failures.
It didn't turn out to be funny in the end.
Nobody believed the most conservative and traditional country in Europe would regress into hyper-progressivist behemoth gourging on itself and neighbours with equal ferocity that would stand for three generations.
Study. History. Be prepared. We had all these #BLM, Liberal Terrorists (Liberal as in Liberalism) and Sanderses and Trumps a fucking century ago, yet nobody ever learns.
>>69577381
>Mir communities had the power to distribute the land given to newly freed serfs by the Russian government amongst individuals within the community. Due to the community's ownership of the land, as opposed to the individual's, an individual peasant could not sell his portion of land in order to work in a factory in the city.
>The implementation of land settlement varied over the vast and diverse territory of the Russian Empire, but typically a peasant had rights to buy out about half of the land he cultivated for himself. If he could not afford to pay it off, he would receive a half of the half, i.e., a quarter of the land, free.
You have no fucking idea. Fact.
>>69578116
Which were not enough to comfortably live off of or improve your life. And commune redistribution of land was corrupt as fuck where some people received good and fertile patches and others got swamps. The former got rich and became kulaks that hired the later to work for them for pennies. All of this contributed to the tensions in the villages and dekulakization didn't just happen because of muh ebil Jew communists.
My grand grand parents were poor peasants and theirs and their childrens' life got much better after the revolution.
>>69551377
russians are niggers, they can not have a single order for more than 50 years, bringing russians is destroying any continuity.
>>69578820
>prospering farmers prosper because ebul
>village commune is ebul, even though it worked nice from like forever
>gib more other peoples' land or else I bring commies to blow your brains out
Some things never change. Bendyak paupers are the worst. Truly white-washed niggers. Just vodka instead of watermelons and "we wuz Zoviets" instead of "we wuz Kings".
Paupers getting into power due to secret services' ties is what keeps modern Russia ugly shit.
>>69579275
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Constitution_of_1906
>constitution and everything russians want?
>no kill and instal world wide bolshevism!
There's no talking with retarded marxists.
>>69579275
Yeah, no. They worked hard all their life till their 80s and were still poor. "Prospering farmers" prospered because they either somehow got lucky or were cheating stealing shits worse than Jews, so they got what they deserved. No regrets.
>>69579275
>Bendyak paupers are the worst. Truly white-washed niggers
Yeah, ofc, something like this.
Before you become one of them by accident, lol. Then your opinion will change. Btw does it worth mentioning "accidents" happen a lot in russia?
Russia is Nigeria with snow and nuclear weapons.
Hey eternal igors help me
>>69559152
I really have no sympathy to Marxists and Republicans/prostestants, they are an absolute enemy to my existence, future, children, and will.
You want everyone to have more shit?
Very well it will NOT be done through Marxism but through the peoples will.
>>69579658
>I have farm wife children
>I pay my taxes, fight in wars for Russian Empire make money
>communists take all my shit
PROGRESSION!
>>69579658
>1900
>90% of the people are poor, uneducated, literally living in mud huts, all industry is bought by foreign capital and the country is turning into another European colony, lost a war to Japan
>Communism
>100% literacy, all people have their own apartments and an out of town house with some land for free if they work, first to space despite the country being obliterated to the ground in the largest war, a superpower capable of opposing half of the world by itself
>>69580158
2016 99% of the people have less than a serf in the russian empire.
>>69580158
>lost a war to japan
>america lost a war to vietnam
nice to see marxist posters.
>>69559152
>empire death
Memoirs. Denikin wrote large enough. Kornilov did too, I have them on a bookshelf. Also Wrangel.
I believe some of Duma parliamentaries wrote them in exile too.
Also Trotsky, if you can plow through all the cringe.
>>69580158
What less could the average Russian possibly have?
>>69580158
Пepeтoлcтил жe.
>>69581127
>>69559152
Fuck. Brusilov's memoirs, not Kornilov's. Sorry, tired at work.
>>69579758
You haven't read my post. We became them. Kolkhozniki. Poor, rights-less, living in constant fear during Stalinism.
The kolkhoz was piss poor and horribly managed also, before - who would have fucking guessed - one of our clan became collective farm president and instilled some order into this mess.
>>69581183
100 years of killing each other and stealing peoples shit then the jews taking all the money and going to israel.
>>69580786
>lose a proxy war with another superpower while killing millions of enemies and temporary achieving your goals
>is somehow comparable to losing half of your fleet, land and strategic influence in the area
>>69581228
Чтo нe тaк?
>>69581620
it is, USA got fucked out of Asia, the port arthur fleet was bombed to smitereens without a declaration of war and then japan allied Britain, it was all a Jewish plot.
>>69577751
But we do learn -why do you think Americans are armed in record numbers., And we do rember that the "ideal" America was the fulfillment of mankind's desire for individual liberty. Your land to do what you wanted and to be free to do your best to accomplish your dreams. There are still places here where you can own property, own guns.and shoot them whenever the fuck you want in your land, where you can home school your children and live a fairly "free" life compared to most other places. Russia overthrew the Tsars for what? For a century of even more oppressive rulers? Then you went and made a former regime agent your new "savior"? Now you look back to the Soviet days with nostalgia because you would rather be ruled with an iron fist if it affords your country some sort of "pride" in the world stage - the delusions of collective ego seeking its fullfilment in its projection of the State in the world stage......
You didnt love liberty enough when the commissars were going door to door purging the "enemies of the state", just as you do not love liberty enough today when you say "our government continues to fuck us in the ass...but at least Russia is still feared and respected by the world!"
>>69581620
You know Japanese rioted in their capital because the Tsar did a great treaty for Russia?
Japanese thought they got shafted.
>>69580158
>this lunacy
Here, have (You) and +7 roubles, my Olgino friend.
You'll spend them on cheap booze anyway, supahpowah mongrel.
> "our government continues to fuck us in the ass...but at least Russia is still feared and respected by the world!"
this
>>69582041
Got shafted in diplomacy maybe, but certainly not in battle.
>>69582077
Great argument as always, have +0.05$. Too bad you can't buy your jamon anymore.
>>69582041
100% of Russians could have had their own house, you just needed to plead and work with the nation not overthrow your nation with foreigners who DO NOT CARE about you.
>>69582612
100 years of building could have made this for all of Russia, if only you didn't bring retarded Marxists who only want Russians as a slave class.
>>69582538
Are you an idiot? Jamon, Coppa Stagionata etc. never dissappeared because suddenly Belaruze has open border with us. Belarusian shrimps are delicious, certainly not Norwegian, no way, bless the Minsk sea.
>>69581183
>>69582612
>100 years ago.
I don't believe you.
Not even touched up photos from then look this good.
>>69582838
Well, good for you I guess. But surely they are more expensive because bat'ka wants his cut too, so you have to shill for Soros harder than before.
>>69582077
Where did all the smart people gone in Russia?
20 years ago it was war in Chechnya and nobody could have ever thought that Russians would have attacked any European country.
Now it's all imperialistic rhetoric, wars in Ukraine, Syria, constant "pre-emptive strike" threats to "the Baltic Dwarves", "USA to radioactive ash", agitizing Russian minorities and other Soviet-nostalgic human trash to cause chaos through mass media. Even fucking term "veroyatnii protivnik" ("a likely enemy") came back into usage, which wasn't used since the 1990.
>>69582840
high finance are plunderers, marxists are plunderers who TAKE from you and give less to others, they do this indefinitely.
russians are bro tier
>>69555211
Countries make themselves relevant through large well funded armies. The world stood back and watched Russia get stuck into Syria and no one cared that the Russian economy was going tits up
>>69582612
Hey, its Tobolsk 100 years ago. The former capitol of Siberia and place of the first Euro castle in Asia.
>>69583079
>Where did all the smart people gone in Russia?
And Lithuanians? You are Russia. A splinter, anyway. Tell me about intelligent Lithuanians.
You don't have to brag your weapons because you've willingly ceded independence and sovereignity to NATO and EU monstrosities. You are already conquered, while our comatose rump of a rump of an empire still holds by God knows what besides angry rants and 2nd military in the world.
>>69556162
I think he's doing a fabulous job personally. Giving that puppy to France was PR gold
>>69583468
Russian chauvinism paid troll.
Russians fucked up their own country
Literally biggest country in the whole world
And still many people have to live in ghetto like flats
Russians could learn so much from America, but they're too stubborn
>>69570389
Shit this depressing hopeless post has more than a touch of Tolstoy to it. I'm impressed
Communism happened.
>>69584007
america is no different we have marxists in power same as soviet union same goals and classes for the people.
>>69582840
>make literally everyone slaves
>conquer others to empowerish them too
>all for small Party elite to hold scraps of former riches yet absolute control over everything
You know that Russian Empire had free possession of arms, right? Have an ad from ~110 years before.
1000 modern dollars for a Nagant, or 25 imperial roubles. Average industrial worker's monthly wage in the Empire was 37.5 roubles a month, or 1500 modern dollars.
S&W from USA costed 1 rouble more. Yes, you could buy a revolver and 50 round for it in a store. With love from America.
Ober-prosecutor of St.Petersburg A.F. Koni said "man had an inherent right for self-defence". It is still illegal to buy firearms or defend oneself here.
Guess why Russian Civil War was extremely bloody and commies confiscated any firearms they laid their hands on.
>all these pride seekers ITT
This is why this country is an eternal shithole and will never get better as long as ruskie mongoloids run it. You all have engorged yourself on the 7 deadly sins like pride, greed and arrogance, and have become a demonic people threatening world peace, just like Mohammedans and commies.
Russians quite simply strayed away from the ways of the original Christ's disciples, and now this country is full of demons who will commit any horrible things just to engorge themselves. The true Christian civilization of the Western world, based on original Judaistic values, will continue to ascend to the heavens while fake "orthodox" mongoloids are spiraling into the darkest pits of hell with their sinful vanity fair.
Just raw numbers about this corrupted hellscape of sin:
Over 1 million HIV positive (from 100k in 2006, GEOMETRICAL PROGRESSION)
Over 1.5 million heroin junkies
Average age of becoming a junkie: 11 years
Over 3 million alcoholics
119/168 corruption index
Majority of people living for under 300$/month
SUFFERING WILL COME TO EVERY SUBHUMAN FAKE PRETENDER AND HEATHEN WHO BETRAYED TRUE ANCESTRAL CHRISTIAN VALUES AND SOLD THEIR OWN PEOPLE FOR 30 SILVERS!!!
>>69584007
Most shitty territories worldwide. 70% of the territory - the permafrost.The enormous transport costs.
Bumping this heathen mongol thread with pictured truth about feral corrupted mongoloid's life.
>>69585081
>killed your own king for a soda
>killed your own family members for money
>killed your future for a dollar
>>69585081
>The true Christian civilization of the Western world
>Western
>true Christian
Nah, mate, you spilled the lard there.
Man I want my S&W revolver and 50 rounds to it. Even though I'll have to spend a large part of my savings on it - thanks again, commies, for impoverishing us all and generally breaking everything into poverty and hunger for decades.
>>69556421
>3) religious
Ehhh, no. How many people do you know who cite prayers, go to church regularly, participate in sacrament and fasting? The most celebrated holiday in Russia is New Year. Full week of non-stop eating and vodka drinking. During Nativity Fast. 'Religious'.
>>69556421
Simple fix, march to the streets and demand your Tsar, and extermination of Marxism then you have repented for your crimes against the Russian nation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6flTC-gvTo
>>69556021
Russia must fall and it's place will the be the Russian Nation with its TSAR and not the JEW's system.
>>69582024
>You didnt love liberty enough when the commissars were going door to door purging the "enemies of the state", just as you do not love liberty enough today when you say "our government continues to fuck us in the ass...but at least Russia is still feared and respected by the world!"
The wild mongoloids and fake Christ-corrupters inhabiting this devilish land have never, ever had real liberty! Can you imagine that in America? No founding fathers, no liberation war, no gun rights, no property rights... Just a mass of cowardly, church-fearing halfbloods who licked the boots of every single tsar, boyar and comissar. And they continue their fervent boot-licking to this day: 86% of Putin supporters. 86% - remember this number. This is how many people would have to be purged before Russia can become a truly good, prosperous country.
>>69585369
>70% of the territory - the permafrost
just like canada?
>The enormous transport costs
>transport costs
>in the 21st century
shut up mongoloid luddite
Negative selection. The most enterprising people were exterminated, were opportunists and genetic slaves.
>>69586154
>march to the streets
>extermination of Marxism
This is prohibited by law.
>>69585725
Imperial rouble was exchanged for 0.7 grams of gold. 1 gram of gold is 38.97 modern US dollars.
Average factory worker salary in the empire was 37.5 roubles a month. 22.5 roubles in St.Petersburg in 1914.
Street cleaner. 18 roubles a month.
Army leutenant. 70 roubles.
Army colonel. 325 roubles.
High school teacher. 85 roubles.
Primary school teacher. 25 roubles.
Paramedic. 40 roubles.
Mid-tier govt official. 62 roubles.
Highes-tier govt official or army general. 500 roubles.
Food and rent was very expensive, yet still modern Russians live worse than 100 years ago. Thanks Marx.
One imperial rouble is roughly 1911 modern Russian roubles. All praise planned economy and inflation.
>>69586650
Canada has working roads and highways. Your roads and infustructure are still mostly form the Stalinist era.
Russia is a white ghetto. It's just shit with no hope. Their territory, ethnic groups and shit infustructure ensure that they always remain an authoritarian shithole with rampant crime and corruption.
If it collapsed into `10 or so different states the standards of living mught catch up to Poland at least.
>>69551161
We don't want to fight but by jingo if we do...
We've got the ships, we've got the men, and got the money too!
We've fought the Bear before... and while we're Britons true,
The Russians shall not have Constantinople...
The misdeeds of the Turks have been
"spouted" through all lands,
But how about the Russians, can they show spotless hands?
They slaughtered well at Khiva, in Siberia icy cold.
How many subjects done to death we'll ne'er perhaps be told.
They butchered the Circassians, man, woman yes and child.
With cruelties their Generals their murderous hours beguiled,
And poor unhappy Poland their cruel yoke must bear,
While prayers for "Freedom and Revenge" go up into the air
May he who 'gan the quarrel soon have to bite the dust.
The Turk should be thrice armed for "he hath his quarrel just."
'Tis said that countless thousands should die through cruel war,
But let us hope most fervently ere long it shall be o'er.
Let them be warned: Old England is brave Old England still.
We've proved our might, we've claimed our right, and ever, ever will.
Should we have to draw the sword our way to victory we'll forge,
With the Battle cry of Britons, "Old England and St George!"
>>69587987
>The Russians shall not have Constantinople...
>The misdeeds of the Turks have been
"spouted" through all lands,
STOBB ID, it hurts!
At least fate is ironic enough to grant London to Pakis and Paris to Niggers for denying Russians Tsargrad.
>>69587539
>If it collapsed into `10 or so different states the standards of living mught catch up to Poland at least.
congrats, you found the only solution. but guess why putin has been building up his military junta (siloviki) for his entire reign? enjoy being a separatist with no guns and a million non-human thugs paid out of the tsar's pocket on your ass.
>>69588243
the UK is like 3% Muslim at worst.
Russia is like 15% Muslim.
Get cucked cuck.
Russia is fageet
>>69588380
Emigrate and join the CIA or join Ukranian paramillitaries they have Russian units among them as well
>>69588447
But Russia "invaded and oppressed" Circassians, Khivans, Turks etc.
Not the other way around in EU. Read your own song one more time.
>>69588686
And now they will outbreed you and rape you. Too much vodka and krokodil fucked your genetics up real good so you can't reproduce anymore.
>>69551161
Their leaders sold the country out to Jewish oligarchs, triggering the greatest suffering in Russian history since Jews took over last time in the Bolshevik revolution. People were literally dying on the streets and nothing worked while the entire countries wealth was being concentrated in 20 people
Putin outmaneuvered Jews and got into power, then the main Jew Berezinsky had to run away and died in exile.
Putin is not clean,I mean the people in goverment fill their own pocket, but he also works for the people and cares about Russia
>>69588887
Nice projections..
Birthrate in Russia is actually rising in christian whites while falling a little in Muslims
>>69588955
>implying putin isn't just as bad as those jews
>implying he doesn't have jewish eminence grise behind him
>>69588887
OK, thanks for updating me on Canada, I'll be sure not to forget your mistakes.
>>69589145
He's not in the slightest, ask your parents or grandparents what life was like under Jewish oligarchs underage liberashka
>>69588955
He then beat on Georgia, and Ukraine and he is now killing goatfuckers in Syria who where about to remove Assad from power while the average Russian earns like 25000 rubles a month which is like 300 dollars.So now they feel all great and relevant again while still living like pigs meanwhile Putin and his oligarchs monopolized all of the resources.
>>69589388
All he did was quadrouple military spending and doubled corrupt police and checkists . So it became an authoritarian hellhole as well as a whiote ghetto.
>>69589256
about the same as now without oil shekels. and it will get worse, final destination: north korea. can you find 3 differences between NK generals and russian siloviki?
>>69589145
Are you an idiot? Or were you born 15 years ago?
I don't see people mugging one another on the streets for a sack of potatoes, you know.
And I'm actually paid a salary. Full. In time. In my bank account. A salary allowing me to tour in Scandinavia or Indonesia once a year. Some of other normie dudes of my age have it even better. And that's after rouble fell by 50% or so.
Certainly this is much worse than the 90'es.
>>69589388
>>69589474
wait, the name doesn't repeat but the ID does? stupid, on 2ch we have names as IDs.
>>69589115
lel.
No its not cuck. Even according official statistics its way below replacement level and official russian data are all bogus.
Russian women who have one child get 250 000 rubles which is like 2500 dollars ONE TIME LMAO. Big fucking whoop. In Canada you get a 1500 tax deduction each month for each child.
>>69589663
Baли нa cвoю /po/paшy, шкoльник cpaный. Teбe тyт нe paды.
>>69589474
>this delusion
I would worry much more about your own country than Russia because it's in much bigger trouble.
The west did all it could to damage Russia financially and it failed, Russia is still standing , Putin is still standing with high support
>>69589613
>implying libertards work
>>69589712
A
FUCKING
LEAF
>>69589613
90s was a transition period while now it's putinist stability, meaning it won't get better. also i bet you're a DC bourgeois, 80% of the country is paid less than you for the same work.
>>69589804
The West barely did fucking anything. they put sanctions on Putin's croneys and Russian banks and that triggered a depression in Russia. If they would ahve implemented Iran tier sanctions that banned the sell of oil and financial transactions with the West Russia would have been finished. All Obama did was fart in their general direction.
>>69589802
plus fifteen roubles, pluuus fifteen, it's good to get its good to get, pluuus fifteeen roubles
>>69589909
You are the same RIDF Russian cuck emigre from Austria who shows upo to cuck for that shithole in every Russia thread.
>>69590084
only one with shill symptoms here is you
>ignore facts
>ignore arguments
>only shitposts and lies
>>69590169
You have no facts or arguments.
> Muh Putin dindu nuffin he good boi
>>69553969
you sound like a cuck, like you want to be russian so bad.
>>69590238
DUDE
WEED
LMAO
>>69590461
You cucks are so irrelvant you don't even have any memes.
But then again you are a Russian emigre who shitposts from a safe area away from the vodka niggerdom.
Dude subhumans lmao
>>69590849
do you think i am that austrian who posts russian stuff all the time you weed-addicted irrelevant cuck
maybe you should fix your own country first
and post proofs and sources pls
>>69589115
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_total_fertility_rate#TFR_by_ethnic_group
I hope you know what total fertilty rate is.
>>69589804
His support is a function of Western aggression towards us. Putin is a very shitty faux-Tsar, but he is infinitely better than mongrels from over the oceans robbing us again.
Westerners (most of them) don't get that most of us has had enough back in 90'es of their "friendship and support". I don't want to survive on potatoes ever again for false liberty to starve and be robbed by literal Joos.
If the West didn't constantly harrass us with NATO expansion and incursions into Central Asia, Putin would have long be no more.
>>69591054
Aww Lawd...Dear Lawd Trudeau is gonna gib basic income to the poor. He gonna legalize weed lmao. He wants to cut taxes oh lawdy lawd.
>>69591227
The countries wanted to expand into NATO to avoid what's currently happening in Ukraine. There are no guarantees in international politics and the West never had a written agreement not to expand NATO further. Russia did sign a written agreement to respect Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovreignty in exchange for Ukraine nuclear weapons being transfered to Russia.
If they haven't expanded NATO you would still be doing the same shit only more brazenly.
>>69591359
>sell gold when it was at a low
>wants refugees in
>past experience actually had literally nothing to do with politics in the slightest
>make economy shit
>acts like a fucking teen
fuck off you liberal shit
>>69591227
>but he is infinitely better than mongrels from over the oceans robbing us again.
>implying
Oh, wait, you right, Paris is not over the ocean, what I was thinking.
>>69591753
Economy off to ‘roaring start’ as Canada sees biggest gain since 2013
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/growth/canadian-economic-growth-jumps-dimming-chances-of-rate-cut/article29469477/
Trudeau ended the Canadian recession while less than a year in office.
>>69591227
>mongrels from over the oceans robbing us again.
lol putin has 70 billion bucks in yachts and mansions, it could feed your kids and babkas and dids who vaival for a century... you feeling good being robbed by a slav mongrel?
>>69556421
like all countries, congratulations
>>69585081
>GEOMETRICAL PROGRESSION
I think you mean "exponential" bratan
I'm studying abroad in Petersburg this fall, what can I expect?
>>69591721
We weren't doing "the same shit" before US decided to move into our sphere of influence after which we had no choice.
Everyone got tired of lack of toilet paper.
>>69592280
Insanely wet and frigid fall. Even worse winter.
The imperial core is gorgeous. The commie rim is shit.
St.Petersburg and Moscow both attract the best and the worst from all the provinces, so you can figure out the circles you'll talk with.
>>69592280
dont fuck women, dont go to hospital, dont enter public transport, dont touch yellow snow... this is CONTAMINATION ZONE!
>>69592512
No1 really cares as long as you are boxed in and abusing Ukraine and Kazakhstan or whatever the fuck. Slav-niggers can kill each but your sphere of influence is litteraly zero. You have Ukraine which is now your eternal nemenis even worse than Poland and the Baltshits and you have a bunch of half dead sandniggers in Syria, and you have a bunch of Central Asian sandniggers where China is much more influential desu. And you have Belarus which will collpase after Lukashenko dies, and Armenia. Quite the fucking coalition you got there pham. So much economic opportunity.
>>69592976
Well, if it's so shitty and irrelevant then stay out of them. Simple. Clearly you care enough to spill your butthurt all over this thread.
>>69592976
5/5 m8, show em vatniks
>>69593336
You really believe that the CIA and the jews did Ukraine? Maybe they panicked once Yanukovich announced the Russian treaty. They legitmately didn't want back into the shithole.
>>69551161
Russia started out as medieval superpower in 800s that had enprmous influence because It controlled the trade routes between Scandinavia and Byzantinum. Russian ethnicity is a mix of North slavs, Finns and Scandinavians. Russians generally have light brown-Dark blonde hair and blue-green-grey eyes. Russian culture is generally North eastern European with a heavy dose IF orthodox mysticism. Russian culture is very melanchonic and Cold, partly because of the countries extremly brutal history. The mongol invasions wiped out most of Russias population And isolated the Russians to the North-eastern extreme of Europe. Despite This, The Russian Republic of Novogorod Was one of the most advanced and prosperous state in Europe. The mongol invasions destroyed the previous capital of Kiev and moved the center of Russian power to Moscow. The highly miltaristic, violent and totalitarian muscovites (who driven by Orthodox mysticism Wanted to avenge the fall of Constantinople and seeked World domination) Built one of the largest and mightiest Empires known to man, The Russian Empire. Muscovite Settlers in Southern Russia formed the don cossack culture, the elite of The Russian military and the eternal guardians of Imperial Russiandom.
>>69556022
Just you saying you want a v8 and go coast to coast makes your an American. You are always welcome here.
>>69594143
That's makes all of us 'Murikan. We all want it. The difference is that some of us are ready to sell all their honor n shit for it.
>>69594116
After surviving The devestating time of troubles which almost lead to the extinction of Russia as a nation, and destroying and conquering the Polish invaders and saving Europe from the Tartar-mongols, the empire stood firm and fought back countless invasions from the west.
>>69594672
Later on the Imperial Russians, Bent on world domination, invaded and seeked to liberate Orthodox And Slavic people from the declining Ottoman Empire. This lead to Balkan crisis and Was a factor in the start of ww1
>>69594903
During ww1 the war effort failed and the tsar had to abdicate. Germans smuggled in And supllied Lenin an co. So he could form a communist state. Lenin made a peace treaty with the Germans while Russia descended into civil war. Bolsheviks exterminated a large number of people and succesfully afirmed Power. Later there Was a power struggle between Glorius Stalin and internationalist Globalist traitor Trotsky. Stalin won and made USSR a global superpower with Power unseen before in Human history
>>69551161
Imperial Russia collapsed because of a complete loss of confidence in the Tsar (Russo-Japanese War, Bloody Sunday), leftists, and World War I.
The USSR collapsed partially because they were too dependent on oil exports (pretty standard for Russia desu) and their ridiculous military spending (about 15% of their GDP, for comparison Russia currently spends 4% and the US 3.5%). But it was mostly because the entire economic and political system had flaws inherent in socialism/state capitalism.
>>69595401
USSR then survived the greates war in human history, Eastern front in ww2, and then lead a global struggle against American scum but Was betrayed by Gorbatjov and robbed by the oligarchs supported by the American scum
>>69595714
Then Saint. Putin came and kicked out the oligarchs and made Russia great again. The end
>>69595714
According to Marxism communist system literally can't be betrayed by leaders or robbed. It is simply impossible if private property doesn exist and country is ruled by proletariat.
>>69551161
I was born in Russia, I'm ethnic German and was able to move to Germany in 1994, at the age of 17. But I got my share of motherland and communism.
The collapse was slow, it was more like a continuing depression that started in the 70-80's, under Brezhnew. Around 1991-92 it finally collapsed hard, with people not getting any money, losing jobs, having trouble finding even basic things. Today, many idiots claim this was caused by Gorbachew's and later Elzin's reforms, but this is bullshit. The system started to collapse long before them. If anything, Gorbachew probably prevented a worse outcome by at least freeing the economy and politics before everything started to fall apart.
The most infamous sign of it was "deficit" - people just couldn't buy what they wanted even if they had money. You got to wait many years to buy a shitty car. You got to wait many years to get an apartment - many young families continued to share the same tiny apartments with their parents - they were living there as kids, now they grew up, married, got their own kids - and continue living with their parents until they die.
I once found a phone directory from my hometown. I was quite astonished to find nearly all my former schoolmates living exactly at the same address where they lived 25 years ago, just the given name of the owner changed in some cases - possibly their parents died or just let the apartment transferred to their kids.
>>69596083
(cont)
Even when it comes to simple things, like buying food and clothes - it was a nightmare in the 80's (i.e. even before Gorbi). You could go and buy bread any time, milk was usually available, but sometimes you were out of luck and had to go to the shop again a couple of hours later. Meat, cheese, eggs, sugar - nope. They were rare. They were delivered to the shops maybe once a month and the when the news got around, literally entire districts went to the shops hoping to get some, building huge queues.
There was a limit on how much you are allowed to buy, like only 2 packs of butter, or just 1kg of sugar per person. I remember as a kid I had to go and stand in these long queues with my whole family, so we could get more in total. Then queue in again and stand through the entire queue again, to get some more.
My father could get some meat and sausage - because he was regularly sent to business trips to Moscow because of his job at Gazprom. He returned home packed with sausages - you just could never find them in our city, but Moscow got a bit of production - which was probably grown in OUR region. Absurdistan.
1992 was the worst year in my memory - food and many other things became rationed, inflation was rampaging - my dad was earning 235 rubles a month once, now he was a millionaire. But only theoretically, because his wages were delayed by many months. He got his January wages sometime in July, and by that time they were eaten by inflation. People survived by growing own food on their small "dachas". Our dacha was just a dusty field where we planted potatoes.
And there are people who were born many years later and refuse to believe it was like this. Some geniunely believe Soviet Union was a paradise that got problems only because Gorbachew tried capitalism on it.
>>69595710
The biggest problem for the USSR was handling their economy, it's borderline impossible for the central government to get information accurate enough to let them set price levels correctly. The central government also set unrealistic quotas, and managers simply lied about meeting them. There was also no incentive for managers and workers to innovate or work hard because unless they were climbing the political ladder because of the enforced pay equity.
>>69596031
>libcucks still believing that communism and socialism are the same thing
>>69596031
Shhhh. CIA infiltrated and destroyed the motherland, and we must take revenge
>>69596610
Only soviets make distinction in their mental gymnastics.
>>69596771
USSR Was great Slavic superpower
>>69596771
>Only soviets make distinction in their mental gymnastics.
But srsly, there was no communism at all in USSR, not even close. Comunism was som sort of idea of the """Bright Future"""
>>69553969
>intense revolution
That was fabricated. The Storming of the Winter palace? Not the grand coup of the bourgeoise you may believe it was. It was a small takeover by Trotsky, Lenin, communist part elites. They established it as a revolution in popular memory through propaganda and a state controlled press.
>>69594903
You mean stupid fucking Austria, a place already staggering due to ethnic tensions, had the bright idea to annex yet MORE Serbs... I suppose the Tsar made them do it by hypnosis or something, yes?
>>69551161
theres nothing you really need to know other than the facts that they oppressed other nations , sucked resources from countries and if they found out you opposed them you'd get a bullet in the back of head. oh yea one more thing all the russian communist leaders were jews funded by france, britan , US in order to destroy the europe nations, and thats pretty much it.
Just read The Great Game by Peter Hopkirk, really good book if somebody is interested in the affairs and rivalry between Imperial Russia and Britbongs in Central Asia during the 19th century.
>>69579658
That 1900's photograph looks so beautiful.
>>69597116
>But srsly, there was no communism at all in USSR, not even close.
This is what soviets believed. Also they believed that they can't be betrayed by their leaders, you see the pattern here.
>>69551161
All you need to know is that Russia is a third world shithole. Most of the people live in what we call here projects. I'm glad i was born in Tampa.
>>69590338
I wouldn't be calling anyone a cuck from your position, Britbong.
Guess you gotta do something while Mohammad fucks your wife.
>tfw you will never hunt reds during the Russian Revolution
:/
>>69600928
Come here white man, we are late for a purge allready : 3
