How true is this?
>>69546760
anything below 100 = liberal
anything in the triple digits = conservative
>>69546760
Not completely true, just like every statistic. There are always outliers.
But it seems to hold generally.
I have an IQ of 132 and am a Nazi.
>>69546855
i have iq of 143 and guess what? im hitler youth
>>69546828
There are sub-100 goofballs who worship Murka, and wave the flag and think Obama's a terrorist or some shit.
I'd say 60-90 liberal, 90-100 mixed, 100-110 liberal, 110-120 mixed, 120-130 liberal, 140+ Nazi.
>>69546760
150+ IQ - Librarian
>>69547050
>140+ Nazi.
>>69546828
cuckservative leave
>>69546760
Not at all:
anything over 80: own opinion instead of parotting his side's view
>>69546760
Mensa scores are a joke and have been for ages now.
Triple Nine Society (TNS) hasn't accepted any of their test scores for well over a decade.
>>69547050
Fuck last time i checked i was sitting at 124,but i am a fucking NAZI
>>69546973
No joke man. The smarter you get, the more you can see things from a distant perspective. I'm thinking about the future of humanity for the next 100 thousand years. We need to cleanse ourselves of the shitty genetics that never achieved anything.
In my ideal world, Indians would be the lowest tier humans. Then Asians (orientals), Then Whites.
This is a recipe for the future. This is how we expand out into the galaxy and beyond. Interstellar space awaits us, but only if we reduce the human population to 1 Billion and keep the highest examples of the acceptable lower races.
No niggers, no aztecs, no abos, no arabs, no feather heads, no eskimos, no pacific islanders... Just whites ruling Asians ruling Indians, all in our respective corners of the world.
And even then, the whites should be running extensive eugenics programs to create the human of the distant future.
>>69546760
No, IQ doesn't correlate with politics.
~85 IQ - African Americans - Vote Democrat
~89 IQ - Hispanics - Vote Democrat
~100 IQ - Whites - Vote Republican
~106 IQ - Asians - Vote Democrat
both sides have dumb fucks with low iq
>>69546760
150+ IQ - Trump
>>69547480
*156 and up, Russkiebro
>>69547441
Let me clarify:
IQ doesn't predict political views, but liberals do have brain deficiencies in pattern recognition and threat detection.
>>69546760
>IQ is valid when they show Republicans are stupid xDDDD
>IQ is invalid when comparing races (RACE DOESN'T EXIST BTW YOU STUPID RACIST PIECE OF SHIT JUST GO DIE UGHHHHHHHH)
>>69546760
It makes no sense at all when you take other countries and history into account.
Lots of extremely smart people in the past were conservative but these idiots would call them liberal. Japan has the highest IQ average in the world but they are not liberal.
Just more Marxist bullshit.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ODZ-RUufHgI
>>69546760
lmao
>>69547056
this guy
>>69546760
140+ IQ Libertarian because its an ideology for autists which inevitably happens at that level.
>>69547050
>140+ Nazi.
Hahaha
>>69547403
Think about it. Indians are already accepting the caste system. They accept their lot in life as the decree of forces beyond their control. They're PRIME slave class.
Asians are hyper-obedient. They don't make much fuss, they're diligent, they can learn complex rules systems and even exhibit creativity.
Whites, when you've destroyed their lowest class, are the superior race. They exhibit high technical prowess, high work ethic, unmatched creativity, and they're born leaders.
100-200 years in this system, and we could probably replace the indians with robots. Then East Asians and Whites could create the superhuman of the future. (We're going to need their diminutive bodies for space travel, and their Anime).
Space Aliens would accept us, finally.
>>69547728
>neo-nazis are the same as nazis
yeah and socialism is the same as communism
>>69546855
Real Nazis don't call themselves Nazis. It's a pejorative term made by Jewish leftists meant to describe national socialists
last time i took the mensa test i scored 144
i usually score 130-135 on the shitty online ones tho
voting trump #maga #yolo
very true considering the higher your iq the more likely you are to be insane
>>69546760
ideological leanings have nothing to do with intelligence this is fucking retarded, pretty much every ideology has smart people leading it and stupid people following it, what matters is if the smart people leading it intend good or evil
>not mentioning Communism at 150+ IQ
>>69547933
and are going to accomplish good or evil might i add
>mensa
>not shitty
>>69546760
There has been no known scientific link to high iq and resistance to one sided propaganda, hence
>50-199 mixed
>>69547679
Certainly at the 155+ IQ. They can easily see why it would be the best way, but fail to have the grasp of politics to understand why it would also be impossible.
>>69546760
topkek. Libertarian is easily the 100-110 range, they are autistic halfwits who are smart enough to be mad about the system and understand economics to a limited degree without developing a comprehensive understanding of how things work. With such, they think that the mathematical principles integral to economics are the end all be all solutions to determining how societies should be run along with the assumption that everyone is and should be governed on individualistic principles. They are smart enough to run themselves, but they are too stupid to realize that not everyone can do so. Not to mention that if you're libertarian you're as destructive culturally as are communists since you're pretty much required to support open borders.
They're halfwit cancerous edgefags who think they have everything figured out. They're pretty much rightwing communists, Marx is to Communists as Mises/Rand is to them. They find a position which can run in circles argument wise and they cling to it like a pitbull on a babies face.
tl;dr libertarians are actually pretty naive, childish, and simpleminded. Pretty much communists who think they know a bit about economics.
t. econfag
>>69546760
140+ here center-left
>>69548252
200+ here extreme right
>>69547728
>Rammstein
>>69547812
Right and niggers don't call themselves niggas.
>>69547812
True in a sense but first it was used by the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP) as an abbreviation of Nationalsozialistische (National socialist) because saying the whole word all the time is just stupid. but yes no one would call themselfs nazi i'd rather say i support nationalistic ideas or that i'm an national socialist
>>69548440
Also Heil spurdo spärde
9 billion IQ checking in. I'm the final mind at the end of this universe. Just about to create a trans-dimensional hyperbridge to the new universe.
Hitler was right, FYI.
Einstein was a socialist
/thread
>but he was fake and gay!
>but my wheelchair guy and bowtie guy and black science guy and ayylmao guy said different things!
>not shitty online internet tests*
Seems legit.
>>69546760
Classical/European Liberal = 99999999999999 IQ
>>69548576
This comment is why I come to 4chan.
>>69546760
Liberals get a -20 to their IQs because of willful cognitive dissonance.
>>69548619
Also I feel this is relevant. I pick me. Good brains.
>>69548723
Not all stupid people are conservative but most stupid people are conservative
>>69546760
Assuming that those with high IQs are ideologically correct is magical thinking.
Especially since leftism decreases the average IQ.
>>69546973
I have an IQ of 168 and my mom was Eva Braun
>>69546760
Below one 100 probably both from very far right and very far left. Other than that probably true. Pol used to be libertarian until low IQ virgin edgelords with muh degeneracy started refugee crisis here.
This is /b/ tier shitposting Aussie. I'm impressed.
>>69546760
African Americans are not conservative.
>>69548619
He was a Jew.
>>69548979
WHO IS THE BEN
>he a lib doe
My IQ is like 5 million but I think we should ban australia
>>69546760
A shitty MS paint picture is causing this much ass hurt. Aussies are like Macgyvers of shit posting.
>literally attended a mensa school at 15
>iq 158
>borderline hitler with mild asperger
op you're retarded kys
>>69546760
Mixed.
IQ doesnt mean shit aside from college entrance exams.
And even then welders and plumbers will make at least twice you do, assuming that you can get hired instead of Jamal who was shoehorned in for diversity reasons.
Also
>libertarians
Pure autism, theres furries out there, on tumblr or whatever the fuck that actually have a 9th grade reasoning level and an understanding of basic economics and government unlike the average libertarian who thinks that a poorly equipped backwoods milita has shit on Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, North Korea, or even fucking India.
Strong central governments are the only way to have a well equipped army.
>inb4 muh natives, confederacy, the amerian revolution
Good tactics are never a substitute for an army, you can meticulously plan an ambush on an M1 Abrahms with wooden spears and rocks whilst starving and dying of diesease all you want.
Than why did I beat every fucking libertarian in every debate I had on Internet?All they could do is call me commie then call me nazi, they tryed to call me names but I am rare type of views guy so they just failed miserably.Libertarianism is the ultimate cuckoldry based on sucking corporate dick.
>>69547728
they're neo-nazis
the degenerates that openly that followed after the end of the whole nazi shit
bet those two lads get hella good pussy doe
>>69548200
not an argument
>>69546760
Entirely untrue. 148 IQ here, incredible nazi.
>>69546760
So once you go above 130 you lose touch with reality?
Sounds about right. 110-130 has the highest amount of quality and productive human beings.
I'm a "sand-nigger" with an IQ of 148 and I'm a liberal. Suck your Uncle Adolf's cock some more cuckservatives!
>>69549078
You deserve this :^)
>>69549260
This. Libertarians suck at making alliances, partnerships or communities. They're selfish autistic man children incapable of manipulating or even working with others towards a common goal. This is why they will always fail and will never do anything but be smug superior neckbeards.
>>69546760
Completely false.
>>69546760
absolute bullshit
You'd have a hard time finding a liberal with an IQ over 120
>>69547785
You're still operating with bias as assuming the White race is the most superior race, when that's obviously not the case.
We do need to accept objectiveness however if we're going to get anywhere.
>>69546760
Last time I tested I had an IQ of 176 and could join MENSA. I don't know if I'm libertarian though. I'm pretty much /pol/ incarnate.
>>69549672
>You're still operating with bias as assuming the White race is the most superior race, when that's obviously not the case.
Which race is superior?
Here guys I got this crazy idea:
People don't fit neatly into IQ ranges based on their beliefs, and there are plenty of intelligent conservatives, liberals, libertarians, and authoritarians. Any attempts to cite the "average" are not only horse shit, but do nothing to discredit an ideology. Dumber people can nonetheless have superior beliefs. Smart is not an indicator of accuracy, or there would never be 2 intelligent people with conflicting viewpoints.
I really shouldn't need to post this, but here we are.
>>69549763
IQ of 191 here. I could have joined MENSA or any other high IQ society, but I've transcended labels.
>>69549547
Not really. It makes sense. There are a LOT of otherwise intelligent people that are highly liberal. Usually comes about from their lack of interaction with the real world outside of their university safe spaces where everyone is civilized and well educated regardless of race. The problem is that these highly intelligent people are usually extraordinarily capable in a few specific fields and proceed to make the false leap in logic that they must also have a good opinion on how to run a country.
And because they have a doctorate in physics or what have you, idiots look up to them and think "woah they're so smart they have to be right about this political issue they clearly have no real life experience with"
>>69549920
>>69549763
IQ 190
6'9 chef at wendys with a 9 inch dick making close to 140k after profit sharing
>>69549920
>>69549920
Meh. I'm fine with labels I just find MENSA-types insufferable.
>>69548200
they are autistic halfwits
> Implying that muh degeneracy edgelords are not the autists. Implying liberals like Carl and Aids skrillex are not autistics
understand economics to a limited degree
> Implying it is possible to fully understand economics. Implying that less economical freedom is good. Implying liberals or conservatives have ANY economical common sense
With such, they think that the mathematical principles integral to economics are the end all be all solutions
> Implying this is libertarian and not simply factually wrong. Not knowing different school of economics, not knowing that "mathematical principles" is basically what is used now in economics and is far from libertarianism
They are smart enough to run themselves, but they are too stupid to realize that not everyone can do so
>Implying economics must be oriented to people so stupid that they can't even take care of themselves. Implying freedom is not best for majority. Implying libertarians don't know that it might be worse for some minority.
pretty much required to support open borders.
> Implying it is true.
They're halfwit cancerous edgefags
> Ad hominem
They're pretty much rightwing communists, Marx is to Communists as Mises/Rand is to them.
> Ad hominem and bulshit "psychologist" opinion
libertarians are actually pretty naive, childish, and simpleminded
> Ad hominem once more
Anyway basically one big strawmen, and ad hominem bulishit from someone implying he knows anything
>>69546760
My IQ is 130, and I consider myself a libertarian nationalist.
>>69546760
90-100 IQ Conservative:
>muh jesus
100-110 IQ Liberal:
>muh mainstream media
110-130 IQ Conservative:
>muh facts and statistics
130-140 IQ Liberal:
>muh safe university career
140+ IQ Libertarian:
>muh special snowflake, total isolation, mega autism genius
Let's see, 148 on the Stanford-Binet test, almost dead center on the political compass, burning hatred of globalist Jews, muzzies, and SJWs, a supporter of Israel, don't care about faggots having kids, think that transwhatever is a disease, /k/fag, agnostic theist, understand what Hitler did wrong, etc, etc...
>>69546855
146, I hate everyone and every thing and I feel like we should go back to feudalism. It was a good time.
>>69550469
Sure was, especially when your family were freeholding farmers, and eventually citizens, like mine
97 here
>>69549951
>>69549866
These right here.
Your IQ means shit when we talk about political views, just like religion, it depends mostly on your environment and how you were brought up.
Ivy league faggots might be excelent students and genious at their fields, but still their political views will be heavily influenced by whatever bullshit they push for in their universities.
The very same braindead niggers supporting BLM could be basefd Trumpeters shitposting here even if their IQ was under 80
>>69546760
Its shit
>mensa
Any anon can pull a better chart out of their ass, might as well say 'undecided' for each seciton
111 IQ - Social-Conservative
>>69546760
Liberal and Libertarian are the same thing you mong.
>>69546760
Fiscal conservatives score higher than social liberals and fiscal liberals
>>69548778
Where's the source?
>>69551124
This t b h
True to a certain extent. Higher IQ related in "book smarts", and being well educated and lower iq generally being just plain dumb
>>69551235
Tumblr, kikebook, shitter
>>69551321
IQ has nothing to do with "book smarts". IQ tests measure the most objective parts of thinking, so ability to see patterns etc..
150-200 IQ - /pol/ poster
>>69551421
Do you think a hillbilly would get a higher grade vs someone who is well educated.
>>69546760
>MENSA
HAHAHAHAHA MENSA is just shekel cashgrab.
>Yes goy your iq is 6 million send shekels
You must be retard if you ever fall for MENSA meme
>>69551581
>chilean intellectuals
>>69551581
this 2bh
200+IQ - National Socialist
>>69546760
When those tests classify "liberal" and "conservative" political ideologies, they are often talking about resistance to change.
In other words, in 2009, if you supported the Obamcare, you would be classified as a liberal. In 2016, if you support Obamacare, you would be classified as a conservative.
Conservatives tend to score lower on IQ tests because their minds aren't creative enough to see how other possibilities could work. They fear change. But "conservative," according to tests like these, should not be conflated with the policies advocated by the Republican party.
>>69546760
My IQ is low 140s and I'm a nationalist Jew with libertarian leanings.
>>69551540
It is completely possible. The man with the highest IQ (190) in the world is a farmer who barely graudated from high school. Look it up.
245 iq
anarchist/communist/constitutional monarchist
>>69551421
lol
IQ tests aren't completely worthless but you can definitely prepare on them and improve your result significantly if you study the right stuff
Below 90: "I don't give a shit."
Above 140: "I don't give a shit."
>>69552036
Sure, you can become better at taking IQ tests with practice, but it has nothing to do with "book smarts"; IQ tests don't test you on knowledge.
>>69551911
>>69552200
>>69552120
ye mb I misunderstood what was meant by "book smarts"
>>69552230
>>69552260
>>69546760
*90-100 - Libertarian
140+ conservative
Fixed
>>69552008
Doesn't prove the farmer wasn't educated. Also he doesn't speak for a population
>>69552008
If a majority were then yes, but this is only one. Compare results of a group. You can probably guess a group of well educated would score higher
>>69550388
>muh special snowflake, autism blah blah
Totally healthy and moral 141 conservative masterrace reporting in
>>69550453
>tfw you try to get the musies here to support Israel because Palestine openly supported the Serbs to butcher all of us
Dude Ayn Rand lmao
>>69546760
People with genuinely high IQs are able to see beyond the conservative/liberal buttfuck football bullshit.
>>69546828
>>69546760
>>69547187
>>69547403
>>69547480
>>69547679
>>69547997
>>69548176
>>69548200
>>69546760
>Mensa IQ scores - not shitty online tests
Because paying strangers to tell you if you are bright is the smart thing to do.
>>69549920
Yes but are you euphoric too?
>>69548270
420 here straight up high
>>69552728
>>69546828
>>69547187
>>69547403
>>69547403
>>69547679
Its true.
Its also true that niggers are dumber than conservatives on average.
Why is why a lot of dumb whites become conservatives, being dumb, they're stuck at the bottom of society, dealing with niggers all day
>>69546760
If this was true then most people would be conservative, and very few people would be liberal, as the average is 100. But we know that's not true so it's bullshit.
>>69552905
How does subscribing to a company that provides fire protection make things worse because they are in competition with other such companies?
>>69547403
THIS
>>69549276
>All they "tryed" to call me names
>Ultimate cuckoldry sucking corporate dick
We have a debater of eminence right here.
>>69546760
>literally everyone claiming to be a genius
>>69552905
Why are people so against moderation?
Why can't we er towards libertarianism as a guiding principal to preserve individual and private liberty as much as possible, for as long as possible, but after we've analyzed a question carefully not then decide that yes, in this case government oversight is justified/necessary?
We all strive for the perfect political ideology that will let a country run smoothly and prosperously forever... but is that not clearly a pipe-dream? I think that the most likely the best ideology we can hope for will be one that only requires us to hit the reset button on our government/society/economy every now and then. Say every four or five generations, maybe.
Real life and human beings especially are just too complex for any pure ideology to work for very long.
Total regulation will lead to bureaucracy and waste and oppression.
No regulation will lead to monopoly, abuse, and pollution.
We have to just find a balance and accept that the system decays. No way around it.
>>69550388
>140+ IQ Libertarian:
>muh special snowflake, total isolation, mega autism genius
It's true...
>>69546760
Not entirely true, I have an logic IQ of 142 and I'm a die-hard right-wing authoritarian.
Also, all IQ tests only measure logic, whereas a true IQ test is in 3 parts: logic, emotional, and moral. So this is skewed to start with.
But since we're talking logic, it's more <100 = Liberal, >100 = Libertarian veering to Conservative.
>>69553390
What's true about it? The paleo-conservatives are isolationists, not libertarians, and it's the progressives who are always going on about special snowflakes.
>>69547441
Asians vote conservative
>>69546760
Not very true. My iq was measured at 144 in an official test by a psychologist and I'm a fascist. Libertarianism will only lead to enslavement of the population by (jewish) corporations.
>>69553496
Not in the US. Asians vote Democrat.
You know who DOES vote conservative, though? Muslims. At least, they did before the Iraq War. They switched over to the Democrats for a while after that. I'm not sure where they stand now.
>>69553633
>I'm a fascist. Libertarianism will only lead to enslavement
Your cognitive dissonance is amazing.
>>69553634
They were all democrat 2 years ago. There was even a big to do at the DNC convention where Muslims weren't voting the party line on some feminist stuff. It was pretty funny. I'm pretty sure they realized that democrats are the path to cuckoldry in the US.
>>69546760
>Mensa
>I need group validation from a number rating of my intelligence
Hard to take a group of people with personality disorders seriously
The opinions of people with an IQ below 115 doesn't matter. They can be persuaded to believe in anything.
>>69546760
>australian flag
>shitpost
wew lad, noone saw that coming.
IQ and ideology isn't linked in my opinion.
>>69553883
They just want to meet more smart people because talking to idiots is a giant waste of time.
>>69548576
>trans
Degenerate.
>>69553212
>Why can't we er towards libertarianism as a guiding principal to preserve individual and private liberty as much as possible, for as long as possible, but after we've analyzed a question carefully not then decide that yes, in this case government oversight is justified/necessary?
In the name of the Father Ron, the Son Rand, and the Holy Rothbard, may the power of the free market compel you, statist.
>>69546760
it's misleading is what it is
>putting the entire 90-140 IQ range into three categories
gtfo, and also
>IQ is a good measure of intelligence
i know mensa members who understand the world as well as a 10 year old, i could pick a construction worker off the street and he would have a better understanding of the conflict in syria
>>69555893
stop talking to a mirror?
>>69556317
Everyone can easily learn for IQ tests and gain a high IQ number.
It makes you better at solving IQ tests, but nothing else
MENSA is a club for pseudo intellectuals
>>69556317
>IQ is a good measure of intelligence
It actually is (if you talk about an IQ score from a modern standard test battery like WAIS). Intelligence is quite easy to measure.
https://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf
>i know mensa members who understand the world as well as a 10 year old,
If this is true then it's an extreme outlier. In general high-IQ people are much more knowledgeable about the world.
https://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/2005g-jobs-life.pdf
https://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997whygmatters.pdf
>>69556694
>If this is true then it's an extreme outlier. In general high-IQ people are much more knowledgeable about the world.
The other possibility is that they do understand the world and it is that other anon who does not. So he thinks they are speaking gibberish while they are making perfect sense.
My IQ is 160 and i am a democratic socialist :)
just saying
>>69556966
>My IQ is 60 and i am a democratic socialist :)
That explains a lot
>>69546760
145+ when I was a child and have not cared since. Once you can see outside yourself enough. Think about the patterns enough. Think about what life is and what man is doing. Some might think it's beautiful or ponderous.
Me, I just want to watch entropy cover humanity like shoving a face into a pile of ash. I want to watch the heat death of the universe flash over the horrified plastic faces of all the narcissistic meat bags wandering this plain of existence. I wan't to see the twisted spire of metastasized loathing I call humanity falter and fail for being such a bunch of fuckers.
The problem is I have a cute little wife who want's a family and few but some friends and really they have no idea. I express some malcontent but none of them has any idea how much I simply loathe the entirety of humanity.
>>69556477
>Everyone can easily learn for IQ tests and gain a high IQ number.
>It makes you better at solving IQ tests, but nothing else
Congrats you understand the retest effect (which exists for most tests).
The issue is: the trained item loses it's g loading and thus is predictive power. You can just use other test items (which is easy since all mental tests people ever came up with are have a positive g-loading) to get a predictive and real result.
The retest effect does not imply in any way that IQ test scores are meaningless.
read this before commenting further:
http://larspenke.eu/pdfs/Deary_Penke_Johnson_2010_-_Neuroscience_of_intelligence_review.pdf
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/scimag/index.php?s=10.1146/annurev-psych-120710-100353
>>69557092
>145+ when I was a child
I bet your adult IQ is around 95
I have yet to meet a stupid guy who is a libertarian.
Most libertarians tend to be very well educated and/or smart.
Too bad the rest of you hoi polloi are weighing us down.
>>69557122
>read this before commenting further:
Dont wanna read propaganda from pseudo-intellectuals.
>The retest effect does not imply in any way that IQ test scores are meaningless.
They are meaningless, you can easily cheat and manipulate your score.
>>69557201
If only I could possess the child-like and autistic mind of a German. The kind of mind that repeatedly tries to destroy the continent as a whole while causing mass death and suffering.
Fuck off fritz.
>mfw people call libertarians/anarchists with high IQ autists
>>69548889
My IQ is 204 and I am Hitler.
>>69557226
>Most libertarians tend to be very well educated and/or smart.
Sounding smart is easy.
Communists say the same BS about communism.
>Most Communists tend to be very well educated and/or smart.
Its more an in-group bias
>>69546760
>people who agree with me: smart
>people who dont: silly
>>69557334
Fuck you Tyrone - no looting today!
I am 127
I am liberal in some areas while more conservative in other areas. This shit really makes no sense to me. I simply support the conservative people because they're sane and wont cuck my shit up.
Kind of like Donald Trump. He doesn't actually fit into these non-sense categories. He simply runs as a Republican because he knows he will do better with Republicans.
>>69557421
I'm talking about libertarians I know in real life, most of them are econ or law majors working in high profile companies.
but to be completely fair, the most satisfying politphilo discussion I've ever had was on leftypol, took about 8 hours and at the end we just had to agree to disagree. The point of contention was that I argued that we own our own bodies and the commies said that your body is "you" and that "you" can only own external things. Then some Stirnerfags discovered the thread and fagged it up.
This if course is not a matter of IQ as much as it is a matter of education.
all this substanceless wanking about IQ.
No one mentions critical thinking or the Socratic method. Both being obvious applicable indicators of intelligence.
Thinking that IQ dictates what team you play on.
>smart people
>playing on a team
>not having their own complex set of views based on how they've processed the specific information and experiences they have had up to this point.
/pol/ has finally actually trolled me.
>>69557311
Annual Review of Psychology and Nature neuroscience reviews are very prestigious academic journals. Annual review authors are invited by the editors and generally authoritative figures in the field they're asked to write about.
Youre delusional.
This statement signed by many experts from the relevant fields is directed at a general audience so it might suit you better:
https://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf
Serious question:
How do you explain the predictive power of standardized g-loaded tests?
How do you explain the high heritability of IQ?
>>69546760
having a high iq doesn't make you right on your political positions. Einstein was a socialist. does that validate socialism? no it doesn't.
If you believe high iq has any relevance you probbably have a low iq.
The guy who is called the smartest man in the world because of his high iq believes in intelligent design. Having a high iq doesn't mean you cannot be tricked by your own delusions and your own psychology into supporting a dead wrong political ideology.
>>69557721
youre the worst kind of autist
High IQ predicts high earnings which predicts conservative favourably as high earned benefit most from conservatism.
>Note by benefit I mean they are plundered the least
If your on welfare you benefit most from the left and being on welfare goes with....... low IQ.
>The average IQ of the US welfare recipient is 90
>>69557709
>econ or law majors working in high profile companies.
>Czech Republic
nice try
>>69557800
why is that, anon?
1488 IQ here
Nazi supreme
>>69557721
Socratic method is shit and ''critical thinking'' is a vague as fuck concept that can't be measured.
We know for a fact that IQ is a pretty indicator for intelligence. Stop being contrarian just because you got a low IQ score.
>>69557784
>If you believe high iq has any relevance you probbably have a low iq.
i dont even-
>>69546760
138 here. I'm conservative.
I've also made a huge number of fuckups in life and I wish my IQ could be a bit lower due to being psychologically fucked.
>>69546760
Most people who are conservative have these values because they went through the lower education levels and have normal jobs. They see the world with their own opinions.
Liberal people went through higher education levels and are thaught being conservative is bad, so what they do is be liberal.
Most conservative people drool in a benign ignorance, liberal people in a malign ignorance.
We need the smart people who are mostly liberal to be redpilled and see the truth in being conservative. It will make them see clear again and give "dumb" people a proof that they are right.
The main issue I see is that the media and people percieve conservative people as stupid and if you are smart or stupid yourself you will try to get away from everything stupid people do, to make yourself seem smarter.
>>69551911
> 57 people sample size.
Why even bother.
>>69546760
I think mine is around 130. Which makes me both liberal and conservative?
>>69557884
>Socratic method is shit
why is that, anon?
>>69557884
socratic method is just questioning people. that's all it is. you're saying questioning people on their crap is bullshit? are you a fucking moron?
>critical thinking can't be measured
being critical of people ideas can be measured otherwise we wouldn't know that it was critical.
>>69558144
people's ideas*
Menza tested 140 here.
Conservative/reactionary, that is both socially and economically. Anti-corporatist. Anti-refugee. Anti-globalization. Anti-feminist. Hate nazis and anarchists alike. Slightly pro-life. Not against gay rights because who the fuck cares about few thousand lives when millions are on the line today.
>>69546760
>Mensa
You mean the group of people with diagnosed autism that can't function in the real world support the idea of being financially supported by others?
>>69547728
None of those individuals even know what Mein Kampf is, let alone National Socialism.
>>69558105
Because it can not be used to measure intelligence. I have no idea why these morons come here every time and go ''IQ scores aren't reliable! Check out my Socrates method score!''. What the fuck, dude?
>>69557745
>invited by the editors
There you have it, cherry picking the authors and ideologies. Propaganda at its best.
>signed by many experts from the relevant fields
Sure, pseudo-intellectuals wanna defend their IQ score, the number of pseudo-intellectuals (52 in this case) is not relevant.
Many scientists thought - Einstein's Theory of General Relativity was wrong, but the all failed to proof it.
>How do you explain the predictive power of standardized g-loaded tests?
Give me a example
>How do you explain the high heritability of IQ?
Maybe dont ignore the offspring with low IQ - cheery picking all the way, huh?
>>69546828
>90-100 I should respect others.
>100-110 I'm better than others.
>110-130 If we start giving in we'll have no rights.
>130-140 I should really take advantage of all the retards out there.
>140+ I'm sick of idiots, just leave me alone.
>>69558281
Whoops, meant to quote OP.
>>69547403
>100,000 years.
Yeah okay. No one can look 1000 years in the future. Let alone 100,000.
>>69557808
So, Kim Kardashian must be a genius? All the famous black Rapper must be more intelligent then Albert Einstein.
Thank you, Anon!
my iq is probably 90 desu. i am really fucking dumb
>>69546760
136 IQ reporting in
lolbertarian master race lads
Mensa eh? 131 and a full Nazi here.
>>69558105
>>69558200
Choo Choo all on board of the label, muh special snowflake train
>>69558370
You talk like a woman or a faggot. Im only replying in case anyone has any similar questions why some stupid people make a lot of money
>Averages
>>69558261
Why can't it be used to measure ones intelligence?
Are you not able to question someones reasoning using the Socratic method and view the results of that reasoning through critical thinking? I think you've got things backwards.
A number will not explain how a person is going to handle every/any situation that comes along their way but inquiry and deduction can.
>>69546760
First layer: Stupid inbred rednecks
Second layer: Blue pilled people
Third layer: Red pilled people
Fourth layer: White pilled people and philosophers : the ultimate goal of mankind is to live together under a common culture
Fifth layer: Ascended. Nothing matters anyways.
>>69558273
The thing is, the psychometrics and behavioural genetics of IQ are very well researched with huge studies that actually replicate consistently with a variety of study designs.
But you don't seem to want to read the research, which is summed up and cited in the reviews I posted.
>>How do you explain the predictive power of standardized g-loaded tests?
>Give me a example
No problem, have one huge study for education and a overview for health that describes multiple studies (some of them .very large as well):
http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Intelligence-and-educational-achievement.pdf
https://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/2004currentdirections.pdf
even for highly gifted individuals the difference in test scores are highly predictive (see: SMPY and SVPY)
>>69557745
>Maybe dont ignore the offspring with low IQ - cheery picking all the way, huh?
What are you even talking about?
>>69558533
>You talk like a woman or a faggot.
You talk like a numale and or autist.
>>69558458
you're too good for this place, anon.
>>69550099
Greentext the quotes next time nigger.
And it is a flawed ideology. Every man will horde power when faced with it, with no overall governing body people will seize control in every and any way possible.
Stupid people become far more relevant when there is noody keeping them in check.
>>69547193
>TNS
literal autism, holy shit.
just go to their homepage, my fucking god, i cringed
>Welcome to TNS
>We are glad you're here - thank you very much for your interest in the Triple Nine Society.
>IQ test based on pattern recognition
>score 128 because i'm a huge image autist on 4chan
>actually a dumbass borderline autist IRL
Yeah, no, It doesn't work for me
>>69559083
You've got to be doing something right if you're self aware enough to know it's not working.
>>69558599
The Socrates method is used to teach people how to think. It's not a measure of intelligence.
We can make assumptions about people based on their IQ. We have this shit figured out. The Socrates method can not be used to tell anything about you other than how good you are at answering some questions.
>>69556388
Literally just proved his point.
Conservative vs Liberal is a psychological predisposition to evaluating risk/reward.
Conservatives are going to choose low risk low reward, liberals will choose high risk high reward.
This doesn't actually relate to intelligence, although depending on the particular IQ test, it might affect your score.
>>69559083
Nor me.
>OCD, Tourettes, autism, depression
>loser NEET with no friends or family living in a shitty home
>no skills of any kind
Sucks.
>>69546760
128 or 132 here depending on which test
Nationalist UKIP supporter (only because no viable further right alterntive exists)
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>>69547812
I call myself a Nazi, it terrifies people. It's one thing to be called a conservative, a "national socialist", but it's another to be called a N-NAZI. There's so much power in that word. Also, don't call yourself European, call yourself Aryan, it's linguistically correct since the self-designation of PIE was along the same lines; why do you think the Iranians got a hold of it later. People should always fear us
>>69559145
then why are you answering my question? Do I not now know that you're both willing to answer questions about intelligence and at least willing to give it an honest effort? An IQ at best could give me a rough assessment of the likelihood of this outcome.
>We can make assumptions about people based on their IQ.
and you would agree that assumptions < accurate comprehension. The later would only be available through inquiry.
>90 Republican
100-110 Democrat
110-120 Libertarian
130-140 Conservative/Liberal
140+ Traditionalist
This is the only way
>>69559377
not sure why I didn't green text all of them.
>>69546855
>>69547050
130 as a teenager, haven't been tested anytime since. jews suck, i think they control hollywood, and hitler could've prevented this
>>69549672
You'd have to prove him wrong. We are responsible for everything you have around you and our intelligence is bell-curved; not a higher average, as is the case with Northeast Asians. It's very tough to say that Whites aren't superior unless you're blind.
>>69546760
desu Im conservative minus the racism.
*(NOT saying there isn't problems with certain races)
>>69547193
For the normal test range relevant for mensa their scores are fine. For the autists at tns you need to be in the crazy high range, very few tests can measure reliably in that range because standardization would require huge sample sizes.
With a standard wais you'll only get results up to 145.
>>69559319
Don't cut yourself though
>>69559557
>Queendom Blog Ad
I dont think your online IQ test has any value
>>69559522
Its also matters how you define superiority. Do physical attributes have any influence? Do social and cultural traditions come into what defines us as superior? And if so how do we define that with our obvious bias towards our own culture.
>Herbert Harrington
>Kelvin Sampson
>Justin Lawson
muh april the first. get rekked fucking nip..
>>69558357
its not about looking, its about planning
>>69559129
I've been told for 15 years of my life how smart and intelligent I was because I wasn't a retarded crying baby when I was at retarded crying baby age because, again, borderline autism.
But now that I'm here as a overweight videogame addict which really doesn't have an objective in life and already disappointed its entire family with FIVE years overdue for its degree and just a fucking burden overall and spending my free time yelling at some people online about images instead of having a proper social life I just see all those as insults.
What 'm saying is that I have a lot of time to reflect on my life but when I do i resolve to do absolutely nothing to change it and I'm going to vegetate to 50 and then kill myself.
Don't tell kids that they're smart and intelligent if they're not actually smart and intelligent
>>69559343
That's just the sort of pseudo-intellectualism that makes me cringe every time people bring up Socrates method.
All you could tell from me answering questions is that I can read and write. Big deal. I can take an hour long IQ test and get a fairly accurate intelligence measurement.
You could ask me questions all day and all you'd find out about me is that I can write, read and I hate pseudo-intellectuals who think Socrates method can be used to measure intelligence.
>>69546973
>Indonesia
Poo in loo tbqh senpai
![im264-415px-Homo_erectus_adult_female_-_head_model_-_Smithsonian_Museum_of_Natural_History_-_2012-05-17[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wDtoA6p.jpg "im264-415px-Homo_erectus_adult_female_-_head_model_-_Smithsonian_Museum_of_Natural_History_-_2012-05-17[1].jpg")
>>69559668
My opinion: superiority is based on your ability to survive and reproduce, since it's the sole factor in determining the success of a species. Things like intelligence, height, physical attractiveness are all factors that increase your likelihood to produce offspring - and superior ones at that. Honestly, I'm doubting whether that's even an opinion and not plain and simple fact instead. Darwinism is the ultimate redpill because it's essentially a scientific, empirical view of life. You can dismiss everybody else on the grounds that they're subjectivists. This is why the right-wing is so strong, because it has literallt truth on its side.
>inb4 "there's no such thing as truth"
>true, but science calls for consistency, you cannot come any closer to truth than with empirical science
>>69559950
Woody, maybe you are the pseudo-intellectual pretending to be a intellectual?
Also, what's up with this fucking website layout?
>>69560199
Yeah, I am. That's why I am not trying to argue for Socrates method when there's a solid proven method for measuring intelligence. Makes me look smarter.
>>69560358
Why don't you go back to redbit, Sweden?
>>69559522
>our intelligence is bell-curved; not a higher average, as is the case with Northeast Asians.
The distribution is normal in every ethnic group. Europe managed to kick off the scientific revolution but once east asian nations get decent university systems they pump out noble prices like western nations after some delay (see japan for the past few decades).
This white master race bullshit is the worst kind of stormfaggotery. We should try to improve ourselves with eugenic policies (no force needed) and by researching GE in humans instead stromfaggots wank their penis to past achievements and the culturally dominant leftist deny the relevance of heredity. If it stays like this China will definitely win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5ANweXCptM
>>69560199
rply u faggot
>>69558657
>>69560561
> a solid proven method for measuring intelligence
Its easy to train for IQ test, therefore its easy to manipulate your IQ score.
Solving a IQ test is a performance, every performance is trainable.
So much to your "solid method for measuring"
>>69560709
Dumbass, they changed the layout.
>>69559950
I also now know that when you get defensive you will label an argument you have no counter to as "pseudo-intellectualism" before restating the same claim you made before.
>I can take an hour long IQ test and get a fairly accurate intelligence measurement.
which I challenged by saying that this would only be an indicator while the only way to actually know what it means would be to inquire further.
You would only be informed on the value of an IQ test by deducing so by finding out where the test first came from, the people giving it, what their possible motives might be etc. As I said, at best IQ is a small indicator to apply deductive reasoning to.
Are you and I not attempting to employ the Socratic method in order to judge how it's use stands up compared to IQ?
![PROOFS_logov2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/0mzOVCC.png "PROOFS_logov2[1].png")
>>69560717
>>69555893
This is true, but holy fuck, talking to other mensans is an exercise in futility.
>"what do you think about nuclear power"
>"well, when you say 'nuclear power' how, exactly do you define nuclear power?"
It's almost impossible to get an answer out of any of those fuck-wits.
Also, I remember at a meet, one girl breaking down into tears because others didn't accept everything she said as being infallible.
>>69560717
Nope, check out the education systems in china, japan etc. Its not about intelligence, more about memorize everthing.
> but once east asian nations get decent university systems
Nope, their learn style is based on copy and paste. There is no creativity.
>>69560871
Still reading the studies and writing down my arguments you faggot - go and suck Ahmeds and Husseins dick in the mean time
>>69560717
>>69561470
Also:
http://world.time.com/2013/12/04/china-is-cheating-the-world-student-rankings-system/
Whereas white countries are flooded with low IQ non-whites, lowering their averages considerably.
>>69546760
160 IQ socially awkward autistic neckbeardkin - libertarian.
>>69560973
>you can train athletiy ability therfore you cant measure it
youre dumb
furthermore: we dont know how to improve g (as opposed to performance in specific test items) beyond anything we already do (schooling and good nutrition)
>>69561130
see Nobel prices. I think the argument you actually tried to make is that the distribution is wider in whites thus there more whites of very high ability compared to asians but in PISA SK/JP/TW have a higher percantage are in the highest achievement levels than in white countries.
>>69562318
>>you can train athletiy ability therfore you cant measure it
>implying physical ability and mental ability are the same
You are dumb :P
> PISA SK/JP/TW
Memorize everything and Intelligence are not the same.
>>69562318
>PISA SK/JP/TW
Yes, and I just showed that these things are no sure way of determining IQ, as the Chinese have repeatedly cheated on these sorts of tests. Those countries are twice as nationalistic as ours and will naturally do anything to prove themselves the superior of others. And who is to say that Nobel prices haven't been intricately biased ever since the end of WWII?
>>69561827
>Whereas white countries are flooded with low IQ non-whites, lowering their averages considerably.
True to some extend, non migrants in some nothern european countries were pretty much on east asian levels in past pisa studies but they still didn't outdo them considerably in any achievement category.
http://akarlin.com/2012/05/berlin-gets-bad-news-from-pisa/
In more recent years east asia has been pulling ahead a bit compared to the natives in these countries, I'm not sure if this is due to only first and second gen. migrants are used as a seperate category and the third gen migrants are getting more numerous (they're possibly counted as natives but im not sure) or it's because east asia has been better at improving their schooling compared to Europe (which might be down to genetic factors -> higher potential ceiling).
>>69562251
Join the national socialist side bro, it's like libertarianism but you can actually defend yourself against other countries
>>69546760
Here, fixed it.
>>69562953
>Memorize everything and Intelligence are not the same.
PSIA is basically an IQ test. The test items aren't simply knowledge questions, they require reasoning and mastery of basic subject skills instead of highly specific dumb memorization.
http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/The-g-factor-of-international-cognitive-ability-comparisons-the-homogeneity-of-results-in-PISA-TIMSS-PIRLS-and-IQ-tests-across-nations.pdf
>>69563638
Now this is believable. Sweden is considered to have one of the worst education systems in the world, which is completely true. Nobody wants to study because everybody knows you can get away from it. I barely made it through high school because of ennui, but a post-graduation SAT test sent me to medical school regardless of my miniscule teenage achievements. And as you said, second and third generation migrants are included as natives for some dumb reason unbeknownst to me. I'd love to send a few hundred German kids to a Russian school where formal, classic education is still enforced and have them do their tests over there.
Rolling for fool's name.
>>69560717
You have no idea how they do education there, do you?
As mentioned by >>69561470
education in China, Japan, and on is more about memorization than creativity. That's because of their culture. Chinese-infuenced countries tend to focus on regurgitating what has been taught to them, instead of coming up with original ideas which seems to be a Western thing.
It's a double-edged sword. On one hand, it keeps their cultures rather traditional, as most cultural values tend to be transmitted almost perfectly, from generation to generation. On the other hand, it keeps them from welcoming and propagating other ideas that doesn't originate in that culture and discouraging deviation from established norms.
But it seems that Western education (controlled by leftists) are taking a page or two from the indoctrination playbook of East Asians. They are even promoting education now (the "wage slave culture"), which was once was an East Asian thing - go to school and work for someone else, instead of coming up with a new invention/good/service and be self-made. It also suppresses the West's ability to think for themselves, as leftist-controlled education is pushing for more regurgitation of what they're teaching (and punishing deviation) over pushing creativity and making up your own mind. In short, Western/leftist-controlled education is pushing to turn the West into a drone culture, like how the East has been for many centuries.
Why? It's easy to manipulate and control drones than it is to control individuals. Before, the means of control is money. But that isn't enough anymore. Those who control the West seeks to warp the minds of people to do their bidding. This is why leftist-controlled education must be destroyed and rebuilt.
>>69564252
>second and third generation migrants are included as natives
not true for second gen. for third gen I'm unsure but it seem likely. The original pisa pdfs are huge and a hassle to search through.
Solutions are obvious either way:
- no more low-IQ migration
- making eugenics a priority and evaluating all possibly relevant gov. policies for dsgenics/eugenic effects
- researching the genetics of IQ (more and larger GWAS pls -> right now the percentage of variance we can predict with the known IQ alels is still low, the missing heritiblity has to be closed for meaningful progress) and GE
- legalizing it as soon as possible and encourage its usage
- i'm not sure about how to improve schooling but I'd guess more sorting by ability (and thus more homogeneous learning groups), more focus on discipline and actually requiring pupils at every skill level to try hard. Maybe spaced repetition and individualized and automatic evaluation of student performance (to identify weak points) by digitalizing tests and some of the learning have potential as well.
In other words: with the current political establishment and dominant culture it's hopeless - this is different in east-asia.
