>Humans finally make contact with an alien species
>We discover that we are "part of" a community of thousands of races in the known galaxy
>Turns out, however, we are about as advanced as a monkey that has learned to use rocks to smash open coconuts
>Our finest representatives are invited to the galactic senate, where we are looked down upon as some shitty sub-species that should have conversations erected around Earth so other aliens don't hunt us into extinction because of how pathetic we are
Would you rather a scenario like the above take place, or that we never even find alien life because we are the first species of macro life to evolve in the known universe?
>>69538591
stop shitposting
why are humans always technologically inferior in these scenarios?
>>69538591
we were the niggers the whole time
>>69538591
then we just kill those aliens and bring freedom to their planets and steal their oil
>>69538696
Think about what you just said, leaf.
Do we have the technology to travel at light speed or travel to the stars? No. So it is obviously them who contact us. And if they weren't advanced enough, they couldn't and we would never meet.
>>69538673
Given the present age of the universe, if interstellar travel were possible, it would've happened already, probably a billion years ago, meaning that galactic colonization, even at sublight speeds, would be so nearly complete that we would've noticed it from a distance.
The more likely scenario is that either sentient life isn't an evolutionary advantage, extinction events are very common, or that interstellar travel is simply impossible for reasons not yet apparent to us.
>>69538815
Great plan
>>69538696
because our energy is produced with fossil resources and we can´t control the weather, and we take years of light just to a planet in our galaxy
we are outdated
>>69539142
Religion +1
>>69538975
No, we only have nuclear weapons and the ability to destroy ourselves, let alone blow up some shitty alien mothership with a single nuke. We're so fucked!
>>69539142
Just a minor point but interstellar travel is impossible for a bunch of reasons already apparent to us.
Start reading about Time Dilation, and specifically time dilation and space travel. It won't take long before you've got it, or start to doubt the universe even exists.
>>69538770
then what does that make the niggers?
>>69538591
>introduce aliens to booze
>they handle it about as well as Native Americans
>their civilizations go to shit
>purely to spite them
>>69538591
Our finest minds are already all but confirmed shit. Alien contact is much more likely to result like this
>aliens find our solar system
>one of the planets inconveniently has some ants on it
>kill everyone and everything organic with a biological plague
>strip the planet bare of resources
>>69539433
That's depressing. I was holding out hope that it might be possible, but that we would be the first to discover it, somehow. Bill Whittle gave a fascinating spiel on how Earth's moon may be the reason why sentient life survived long enough to develop space travel.
>>69538591
Shit would be cash man, there bound to be some sjw aliens who get us jobs through affirmative action
Humanity would probably get pissed at the aliens and overload our ship's alcubierre drive and suck their entire solar system into a black hole. We'd be considered intergalactic terrorists.
TERRA AKBAR!
>>69539433
b-b-b-but...
>>69539569
If they have invented intergalactic spacecraft, they sure as shit have invented bread, which means booze. Barring them being some kind of non-carbon lifeform which absorbs positive feelings for nutrients or something
>>69539650
we are the aliens , look into quantum technology and realise the core of our dna are the atoms and the way they combine , but if we are talking about universal matter the atoms are the same for all living beings.
>>69540171
Not stoned enough for this
Any species that has mastered FOL travel is probably intradimensional and would be unknown to us anyways.
>Humans start suicide bombing intergalactic cities and spaceships
>#notallhumans start trending
>They hunt us to extinction anyways because they're not retarded and no human=no more alien deaths
>>69540374
The universal chemical elements that exist and compose dna are not exclusive to our galaxy, the atoms in us exist everywere in the universe and to restricted to this environment.
Do you think life could be infinite? Are we limited to our mortality as species and are shifiting to other type of adaptation in order to at least continue the existince of our species and avoid extintion. At least we already have consciousness of it, we cain gain immortality if we control the extintion of our specie.
Seeing that we are controlled and stuck in a time matrix by Saturn aka Lucifer/Satan and being suppressed technologically and spiritually by their satanic servants (Jews/repitillians) we have to mass together and kick these fucking cunts off our planet and then we got a shot in the universal community
>>69540591
why even contact with a complete different specie? Do we contact we the ants? Not at all
maybe some SJW asari will let me ficki ficki her
>>69538591
>implying humans wouldn't be seen as potentially billions of mercenaries due to our natural greed, tendency for war, ability to improvise weaponry and the ability to recover from massive physical and mental trauma and our culture and technology being heavily linked to war
I'm calling it
we'll either be eradicated as murderous apes or elevated into a military caste
>>69539650
>implying everyone wouldn't agree to a scorched earth tactic in case of humanity's destruction being inevitable
unless they managed to instantly kill every human they'd get an extremely radioactive wasteland
>>69539261
Nuclear weapons are not nearly as effective in space as they are on Earth. There destructive power in space is reduced to the fire ball and radiation released.
Also not to mention the advanced humans that life in the inner earth were like cattle or sheep that have free will but saturated by mass media, poison food and religious shenanigans making us look like idiots in comparison with "" advanced beings""
In short the human race is playing with in hard mode while other races observe us and hope we will never unite because if we will the galaxy is ours for the taking
>>69541094
its only good to kill humans , were you get the idea that you can use nukes on a alien that can simply show up in you room and brain storm you with high telepatic frequency and make you a vegetable .
>>69541094
Fission is less effective as an explosive but the effect of radiation is multiple times stronger
http://history.nasa.gov/conghand/nuclear.htm
But we aren't too far from a pure fusion bomb that can disintegrate shit so don't worry
>>69541471
aliens that will have some gay power like that is very unlikely
we will still blow them up if we do
>>69538591
>mankind finally receives delegation of aliens to earth
>aliens come to study the different races of man
>studies whites, laughs at his betaness and subservience to their women, and their tiny dicks
>aliens stumble upon the black man
>awed by his strength and dominance, his dark muscular physique, and the fact that he cucks the white boys
>aliens learn of nature's endowment of the black man with the largest phallus of his species
>black man gains fame and worship throughout the universe as the most perfect specimen of life to exist
>>69538591
>make contact with aliens
>integrate them into society through diplomacy
>genocide da fuck outta them and become the master species
Luthor was right
The existence of the Alien is a problem with but one solution: Extermination. When Mankind is alone in the cosmos, only then will we have achieved our destiny
>>69539261
In order to travel the stars in a reasonable span of time, you'll need to be able to reach relativistic velocities.
It's a scenario where the aliens have the high ground, and the capability to literally destroy the surface of the planet just by launching spaceships at it.
A 100 metric ton mass traveling at 50% lightspeed would impact with a force equivalent to 245,000 megatons of TNT. That's ~ 100x more energy than the entire world's nuclear arsenals combined. It would likely punch straight through the crust and into the mantle and destroy at least a state/province/country sized area and massively devastate an entire continent.
And there would be literally nothing that could be done to stop it. If you fire an impactor at it and somehow break it into pieces, you just get relativistic shrapnel scattered over an even wider area.
And what could humanity do back? We have no means of reaching their homeworld; we'd utterly be at their mercy, stuck at the bottom of a gravity well we can barely crawl out of.
>>69541498
It really doesn't matter
You're talking about increasing the lethal radius of a nuke from 2km's to 3km's.
Meanwhile your target is 10,000km's away.
Feel free to look up the inverse square law and do some calculations.
Can the aliens be perfect Quarian waifus, please?
>>69539650
Have you heard or read the theory that humanity is the genetical combination of the most superior races in the galaxy and see what happens when they set us down on this planet? It's sort of explain were being suppressed at every given change to expand into space due to our warlike nature and our crazy dedication towards any goal or cause
>>69541616
says the gay human cowboy shooting is stupid pistols and the aliens simply have telepatic abilities like break your brain with frequencies he will get on your nerve network and weak spots , you would be crying like a baby and they laugh at you lol
Not to mention that they would isummon cain data again just to fuck with you
>>69539532
Still niggers
>>69541807
fukken' xenos
>>69541926
>It really doesn't matter
yes it does
>You're talking about increasing the lethal radius of a nuke from 2km's to 3km's.
>Meanwhile your target is 10,000km's away.
If you are bombing a city do you drop the bombs into the city or outside the city, outside the effective detonation radius of the bombs?
>>69538591
>Would you rather a scenario like the above take place, or that we never even find alien life because we are the first species of macro life to evolve in the known universe?
I'd rather we be alone. We are in a much less danger that way.
I think it's a pretty silly question. Some kind of interstellar "society" is impossible. Space is simply too big and FTL is impossible.
>>69541471
>>69541498
>>69541926
Eh from what I understand space warfare would probably use missiles with conventional explosives, rail guns, robotics, and possibly directed energy weapons. Energy weapons would only come into play simply because of distances involved and the speed at which they travel. So it wouldn't be all close quarters like you see in movies and such.
>>69542063
I'm guessing that wouldnt be possible due to our different brain frequencies. That sounds like just too much fiction bro
>>69542153
FTL is impossible, but there's mathematical means to travel the vastness of space in very short periods of time, it just requires nearly sun-level energy sources.
In telligence adapts , do we humans make contact with the birds? NO
Do we try to extinct the birds?NO
Aren't birds other type of specie race ? Yes
So I guess is universal inteligence always adapting.
>alien mothership forced to land on earth for emergency repairs
>while here they realize the neets/niggers/jews are ruining society
>implement a worldwide beam to turn them all into a paste their ship can use as a fuel
>leave
>earth enters a new age of prosperity sans degenerates
>>69542153
>Space is simply too big
For the human life span? Yeah. But we have no idea what the maximum lifespan of a creature as intelligent/more intelligent than a human is
For all we know there exists a species of hyper intelligent space squids that like for tens of thousands of years somewhere
>>69542248
>missiles with conventional explosives, rail guns, robotics, and possibly directed energy weapons
I don't see the point of not throwing in some nuclear warheads if you are shooting missiles already
But yes, it'll most likely be railguns and energy weapons due to the range alone. Both also use only need large amounts of energy to operate, railgun ammo doesn't take up much space and is cheap
>>69539532
I think it makes them double niggers?
>>69538591
>We make contact with ayyliums
>They enslave us and our relationship is akin to the Chinese and Africa
>Schlomo cozies up to the alien overlords and subtly introduces wall street bank ethics
>The galactic community beings an economic freefall to hell
>Yfw Jewish banking practices bring about the collapse of civilizations older than our very species
>Humanity now stands dominant over the galaxy
Pic related is an alternate scenario
>>69542357
different brain frequencies lol your brain is electric and can be stimulated in a very bad way if a lightning hit you fool, so the aline with is telepatic habilities will emite such high pitched sound that will blow your circuits up
>>69541982
You know they're just space gypsy Muslims right?
>>69539142
>or that interstellar travel is simply impossible for reasons not yet apparent to us.
It's not impossible at all, it's just impractical from an economic standpoint. That's probably why nobody, assuming there IS anybody, has ever done it.
It would be tremendously expensive to, say, colonize another star. However there would be absolutely no return on investment for doing such. The home star gets nothing out of it at all.
So there is no reason to do it.
On top of that, a solar system like ours could support a huge population for another few billion years. Even after the Earth is rendered uninhabitable by the sun aging we'd still be able to survive in the outer solar system.
>>69543587
there is no other way of controlling our existence as species and lifetime unless we become colonial space travelers , yesterday we were apes taking energy from dead animals tomorrow we take energy from the stars
It's you, can your mind wrap what you were what you are now.
>>69543587
No, it's pretty much entirely impossible today. It may at some future date move to almost certainly impossible, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Anyone banking on anything outside of our stellar neighborhood is a scifi geek. We would literally need to find out that everything we base physics on today was wrong, or find out the Lovecraft's idea about different regions of space being controlled by different physical laws than ours was correct.
>>69542248
so stupid sorry but you don't understand that they don't want close contact with you, the only close contact with you they will is the same as you when walking in the park and see a bird and carry your walk .
There wired structure of the brain is complete different dimension of existince .
And you are talking about shooting missiles , cmon you can go further then that , again you cant even walk in your miky way , and they travel galaxies and you never even step a foot out of yours
>>69540053
The ayyys been keepin us down. We need mo' money fo' dem programs.
>>69544882
impossible not because you can actually make a human colony in Mars to secure the lifetime of our specie and avoid extintion or catastrophe of this planet , and not with pseudo intelectual literature made by a human lol
Plus you have to understand that there are universal elements that combine our dna and those components exist according to scientific studies in all this universe (dunno about the others) and not just on this galaxy , you know how many galaxys exist in the universe and you don't even know your own? There are billions of galaxies , how many universes?
>>69538975
Europa moon m8
Dig through the ice, suddenly an alien dunkleosteus
maybe it's smart because it's not stupid enough to tunnel through the ice because the air contaminates the water
suddenly kill the only known form of alien life in the universe by finding it
That's how I see first contact
>>69545912
Put down the jenkem, or whatever the fuck you are sniffing and try to make some fucking sense.
I can't even tell if you're agreeing with me or arguing with me. I'm not even trying to respond with more until you make a fucking effort.
You sound like you got high watching COSMOS, and are now preaching to the masses.
>>69538696
Because the people who came up with tiered civilizations and alien searching are all misanthropes
They don't even try to hide it
>>69539231
>We can't control weather
This is only half true. The weather can be manipulated. It's called weather warfare, look it up.
Besides that, you are correct. I believe we are technically classified as level 0 on the Kardashev scale, which is kinda depressing.
>>69540072
Underrated desu
>>69546151
depends the state of consciousness, we could possible first avoid , it's really hard to tell because it all depends on power too .
You see a animal and whats your reaction ?
You kill it? Depends of circunstance depends of many factores specially inteligence and the way it adapts because you did not kill the other species that share this palnet with you.
Why you save the whales? Why sometimes you kill them, sometimes we hunt them down others we save them when they are stuck on beachs
>>69538591
There are no aliens out there.
We are the first.
And we are alone.
>>69540072
>not TERRA VULT
one job
>people thinking aliens will be super advanced
I'll tell you all a secret
Humans are the most advanced technologically speaking species in the galaxy
Let that sit with you for a bit
All that science fiction about these crazy alien societies are just that... fiction
>>69546909
>we are the crazy advanced alien species set on conquering the universe
spoopy
>>69546313
Im talking about aliens and about our specie and about the origin of our dna and the chemicals atoms that compose it .
But the cosmos is actually a good show , I think it is nothing but the natural adaptation of inteligence and the shift to other type of existence behind the human ego and mind archetypes. Sorry I just dont like humans very much
>>69538591
The only thing holding us back is our own monkeys, and the same would be for any intelligent species. Because life is varied and any life altruistic enough to want to explore the galaxy apparently is autistic enough to have too much empathy for their own subhumans
Niggers, and a little of some Jews. They will only have sympathy or disappointment in us having so much sympathy for the lesser people of our own kind. But yeah they might wipe us out because we didn't have the balls to stand up to niggers but my guess is all intelligent and empathetic life is facing the same struggle and none may be able to overcome it
>>69539433
Nonsense. We could easily build great generation ships to ferry our descendants outward as colonists, by hollowing out asteroids and using vast nuclear fusion-powered rockets. And even now, we are trying like mad cunts to see if warp drive is possible.
>>69546151
Humans: Fuck up everything in our quest for knowledge.
Seems right.
>>69538591
>Humans finally make contact with an alien species
>>We discover that we are "part of" a community of thousands of races in the known galaxy
>>Turns out, however, we are about as advanced as a great ape that has learned to use EM fields to smash open protons and neutrons
>>69546520
we cant control yet...
The level of our civilization is measured by technology, what you say is ok but we don't totally control the weather yet , our consciousness already has this technology figured out now is projecting to our virtual reality
>>69546909
and you knnow that how?
maybe they are just stuck in their own planet, like us
>>69546716
yes a great possiblity and we don't know how will we evolve, the destiny of our specie what type of metamorfose. We can even became hibrids
>>69547023
I actually cheered NASA's loss of funding and the end of their space programs when I saw that fucking joke of a Warp Drive they were pretending had any validity.
Time Dilation.
Generation ships are an even bigger joke. Allow me to rub shit in your hair.
>Biosphere 2 was only used twice for its original intended purposes as a closed-system experiment: once from 1991 to 1993, and the second time from March to September 1994. Both attempts, though heavily publicized, ran into problems including low amounts of food and oxygen, die-offs of many animal and plant species, squabbling among the resident scientists and management issues.
>>69547288
I don't but I'm putting all my money on it
>>69546957
It's not that spoopy
Mainstream Science fiction has even covered it (see avatar)
>>69547023
>And even now, we are trying like mad cunts to see if warp drive is possible.
knowing humanity we'll probably weaponise warp drives if we manage to make them and create something that obliterates space-time by contracting and expanding it repeatedly
>>69547446
So an experiment failed over 20 years ago, therefore, it can't be done? And keep in mind that they were trying to have a closed system while getting hit by obscene amounts of sunlight coming in to supply a large garden-style arrangement of biomes of organisms meant to simulate different types of places on earth. They had to use gigantic air conditioners on the thing the whole time or they'd have all died of heat. Hardly a good analogue to a near-future greehouse set-up mainly for making food, we can recycle oxygen using mechanical systems way more efficiently that using plants.
And why are you so fixated on time dilation? Time dilation isn't even relevant unless a craft is going absurdly fast.
>>69538591
better we never encounter any more advanced culture in space
that sort of encounter never goes well for the less advanced culture
>no one realizes the biggest challenge to space travel is societies collapsing over and over again to leftism thanks to Jews women and niggers
Yep we're dying here on this rock
>>69538591
What's the deal with aliens anyway? They're almost routine visitors on shuttle missions and the ISS feed. Several astronauts straight up say that they've seen aliens.
So do they just sit there and watch? Not saying hi? Fucken snob cunts.
>>69548145
You need me to quote the rest? It's still around. It's just been a massive failure. They were going to tear it down to build a shopping center and condos until environmentalist (or just plain mentalists) kicked off a fuss and got a University to buy it.
>>69548145
Understanding Time Dilation and Relativity helps understand why FTL travel, by any means regardless of shortcuts, cannot be achieved.
Until relativity is wrong, FTL is not happening.
>>69548373
A good way to orientate myself is looking up patterns in our own planet with the long history of sharing this planets with thousands of species we surely never attempted to exterminate the other animals surrounding us .
There is nothing to fear , the fear we see is created by us because as a specie our colective is a mess we kill each others over money to buy resources , we are the ones craving for meet them not the way around we are the ones who are looking for a shift in our civilization not them, the greater danger to ourselfs is ourseefls and the aliens are the mirror of it .
>>69548422
Do you talk to every dropbear you see capable of building shelter?
>>69548422
waiting for the day we make music that aliens can dance to
anyone got that greentext about first contact ending with aliens thinking we are some kind of nightmare race and something about a uninhabitable zone?
>>69548643
we can still colonize other worlds without FTL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtgmT5CYU8
>>69538591
We would be lucky if such a scenario even took place.
In all reality our civilization and its holdings is probably pathetically insignificant to any species that has achieved FTL travel. Probably not even worth noting on an interstellar map.
The only reason I can see why an alien civilization would want to contact us is by glassing our worthless planet out of boredom much like a child kicks over an anthill.
>>69543587
>However there would be absolutely no return on investment for doing such. The home star gets nothing out of it at all.
Assuming you had the tech to colonize a star, wouldn't drawing a near-infinite source of power from it be a return on investment?
>>69548993
wait but still the anthill exists and the ant species continues the existence and after all was just a kick , so the universe intelligence is superior to aliens too
"Fuck off we're full"
>>69542005
Post it, I'm in the mood for humanity fuck yea.
>>69538591
We've already been contacted by aliens. The Annunaki.
>>69549699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB3TNhdDXpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICiu3Jw2zy0
>>69538673
He's not shitposting. I hope an alien kills you, Americoon. Aliens are superior to humans.
GAS THE HUMANS
INTERSTELLAR WAR NOW
>>69549795
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUU LEMME HAVE MY FANTASIES :((( In all honestly I was trolling when I posted that, but I've been reading about the ancient Gods and all that to find out what "God" is the true "God", and I'll add these videos to my list of stuff to watch. Thanks ^_^
>>69543991
Tomorrow we'll be so much dust and a thin layer of broken plastic shards, thinly strewn across a fossil bed, sandwiched between the burgess shale and an eons worth of mud.
>>69539569
You would be the native american
>>69549482
HFY threads are always fedora-tier
>>69540923
Reptilians have taken over and infiltrated every level of human society (including our governments) for many thousands of years. The reason they've gotten away with it for so long is that they can assume a human form. They don't come from another physical planet per se, but from another band of frequency that vibrates very closely to this one (which enables them to flit back and forth from their dimension to ours).
Credo Mutwa called this frequency band/dimension 'the heaven between heavens'.
Their 'food' is our fear, our hatred, our suffering, our anger and our despair.
Shifting into a human form and entering into our dimension takes a lot of energy for them, so they can't stay here for long unless they possess the body of a human who is in vibrational resonance with them.
These humans are of a hybrid nature, their DNA is different from ours in that it is compatible with the reptilians (which is what allows them to be possessed). These humans are your kings, your banking dynasties (like the Rothschilds, for example), your presidents, etc. They have certain traits in common, like a lack of empathy, an obsession with being in control, lack of imagination, etc.
Oh, and they love lolis and gold.
These reptiles are pedophiles.
>>69548993
They might want to study us as anthropologists or biologists. Sort of like Jane Goodall. Sure it's humanizing them to suppose such a thing, but if we're curious and it led to greater intelligence, there is no reason that some intelligent species in the galaxy might be curious also.
>>69538591
>Our finest representatives are invited to the galactic senate, where we are looked down upon as some shitty sub-species that should have conversations erected around Earth so other aliens don't hunt us into extinction because of how pathetic we are
and thus space hitler is born.
tell me of the unfolding events /pol/.
if this doesnt lead to HFY then i dont know what will.
>>69538591
I rather they think we're fucking retarded so that they might rid us of all the stupid humans that are preventing us from advancing.
I.E. no more niggers
>>69549482
Good read, anon. Thanks for posting.
>>69538591
>call out the aliens on their advanced brain privilege
>call them speciest violent assholes
>enact species quotas for humans
>get gibs me dats from the ayyliens
We have much to learn from niggers.
>>69538591
>>We discover that we are "part of" a community of thousands of races in the known galaxy
Intelligence is just one evolutionary adaptation out of many. It is no more inevitable a thing than the development of an armored shell is. Even if life is abundant, and there is no reason to suppose it would be, there is still absolutely no reason to suspect that intelligent life will arise. The Drake Equation simply took WAY too many liberties and WAY too optimistic a view of life, evolution, and other factors.
We have exactly zero data on xenobiology, and still have very little information on our own origins. Speculation can be made on the available evidence found on our own planet, but one cannot make any predictions as to whether or not the formation self-replicating organic molecules are an inevitability even if a prime environment for their formation exists.
There is absolutely no data whatsoever. To speculate on the chances for life elsewhere is frankly ludicrous. It is fine to say that the chances of it existing somewhere else are reasonably high, but anything beyond that conjecture just has to take too many liberties.
>>69549482
This could make a very good film
>>69550421
But that would imply they would see humans like people rather than like bacteria with pure indifference but still observe us to study our behavior and culture. Humans are like bacteria to advanced aliens our planet is just an insignificant petri fish to them.
>>69541628
Wouldn't that make the aliens cucks too though?
>>69550560
we do have very little data on xenobiology.
but scientists agree that earth is a hostile planet.
there is a list of conditions that need to be met to make a planet hospitable this is universaly agreed upon and we have yet to see a planet that meets anything past bare minimum.
guess what. earth doesnt qualify.
yet here we are.
>>69550532
This.
Should we find the stars aloft devoid of complex multi-cellular life, we most certainly have a duty to rectify that situation by any means necessary.
What good is a painted painted canvas, if there are none to gaze upon it in wonder in awe of its beauty?
>>69551196
>>69541628
top kek aliens would abduct niggers and force them to kill eachother for entertainment.
>>69542374
>We can do it, it just requires the entire reaction mass of our sun
Yeah that's not much of a fucking solution.
Really what we need to do is colonise our entire solar system, and then build a stellar engine.
>The humans would be te new negros
>yfw we cuck the aliens
>>69550977
As far as we know for carbon based life you need water and an atmosphere that blocks out UV rays. Micobial life however is a mystery as bacteria have existed since 4.1 billion years ago meaning there could be microbes on Titan right now.
>>69551362
Also nothign says that life has to be carbon based.
Mybe aliens are based on silicon.
>>69551338
I'm entirely alright with this, as long as the alien babes be hot.
>>69551362
hospitable to anything past simple germs obviously.
but you are right the bare minimum for carbon based life is water and light.
you can probably reduce that to a few vitamins though.
for more complex life to evolve much more is required. for exmple the environmental need to evolve.
>>69551465
Yes but our knowledge of biochemistry is from carbon even DNA is from carbon, yet they have already created an artifcial genome with six bases rather than four showing you anything is possible really.
>>69551246
do you have insect kid with chocolade bar story?
>>69540931
i contacted with yo mum
>>69551682
There are literally millions of planets like earth in our galaxy you ignorant fuck.
>>69550977
>but scientists agree that earth is a hostile planet.
Hostile only insofar as it is not completely safe, but Earth is literally the perfect world in the most rare of circumstances:
>1. Right rate of rotation to allow for even distribution of temperatures.
>2. Geological mechanisms in place to remove excess carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
Think about how extraordinary this one point is. Venus is almost exactly the same size as Earth, and yet, it seems not to have to tectonic activity. This is why there is a runaway greenhouse effect. This is further supported by the fact that nearly the entire surface of the planet is very very young, which indicates a massive volcanic resurfacing of much of the planet. This would have had the effect of shutting down any tectonic activity.
>3. A powerful magnetic field, which even Venus does not have (see above for more details. Resurfacing may have shut down the magnetic dynamo),
>4. A large moon in relation to the size of the planet that shields the Earth from impacts while also stabilizing the axis of the planet (Mars literally flips over sometimes).
>5. Is the perfect distance from its host star.
>6. Orbits the perfect type of stable main-sequence star.
>7. Has a massive gas giant (Jupiter) that helps keep the inner Solar System free of potential impactors.
>8. The Solar System exists in a perfect galactic position free of supernova or other destructive celestial events.
I could go on and on, but you get the point. Earth is a one-in-a-trillion planet. However, even then, there is still absolutely no reason why life HAD to develop, just because it did. The processes here that gave rise to self-replicating organic material by no means have to necessarily always lead to the creation of self-replicating organic material. It could just have been a fluke event during a random collision of proteins that is rare in itself.
It is arrogant presumption to say that these molecules MUST occur everywhere.
>>69538591
but we can allways turn the whole universe to laugh at niggers
JOKES ON YALL
>>69551760
>There are literally millions of planets like earth in our galaxy you ignorant fuck.
I'll assume you are responding to the post I removed to correct something in it.
However, no, there are no other planets that we have seen which are like Earth. Merely, only other worlds with a handful of similarities have been discovered, not exact parallels. And again, there is no reason why life HAS to arise on these bodies.
Self-replicating organic matter is not an inevitability in any environment in which it exists.
>>69538591
>aliens come
>discover community of races
>turns out... we are the niggers of the universe
What do?
>>69551905
>Self-replicating organic matter is not an inevitability in any environment in which it exists.
Or rather, it is not an inevitability in any environment in which it could potentially arise.
>>69548850
WE GON BE DA NIGGAS OV DA ALIEN WORLD
>>69551905
On the otherhand if a planet has trees then it will have humanoid looking creatures at some point in its time, the some theropods may have eventually mutated their tails away and become fully erect and have their forelimbs become tool using rather than claws becoming the very first intelligent species but that meteor happened. On a lower gravity planet quadrupeds would become bipedal much faster meaning more intelligent life is possible on planets with lower gravity like Mars although they would be fragile compared to us. Depending on how the producer class organism is a lifeform on another planet could live off half of what we eat just because the energy of the plant part of its ecosystem is much greater than the ones in our plants.
All I do know is that life on planet with sunlight will eventually become photosyntetic meaning plant like life would be the most common things in the universe.
>>69538673
What are you talking about? This is quality entertainment. Get with the program.
>>69551778
There are civilizations out there right now inferior to us, without a doubt. That being said, time is a really fucked up concept when it comes to space. What is now? Time differs depending on speed and gravity. Aliens scoping us out from far away just see primitive earth depending on how far away they are from us. If they decide to come here, assuming they are travelling at the speed of light, it will take thousands to millions of years before they even get to us. They could have decided to leave thousands of a years ago for this planet and we wouldn't even know it, they could show up and what would feel like thousands of years to us would only feel like a few hundred to less for them. By the time they get here they might not even expect us to be here.
That is how crazy and out of whack it is thinking about space and time. Unless an Alien species can figure out a way to bend space and travel through it, there is no chance of them even giving a fuck about this planet. Even if they did find this rock with whatever form of telescopes they use, it would just be another possible habitable planet to them out of literally thousands.
We look into space and see earth like planets as they were thousands to millions of years ago, we have no idea how they are now. Space is so fucking huge that the chances of a species evolving the same exact way we did is possible. There could have been another Earth, with life forms just like us, that lived out their entire species life span until extinction and we wouldn't even know about it. Maybe the life that evolved that came from the rock that hit our planet has a strong link to life elsewhere.
So many fucking questions. If humanity is around and does advance, we might even father our own species some point down the line, or hell, leave a self replicating organic molecule by accident on a planet capable of life and millions of years later a species descends from it. Maybe that is what happened to life on this planet.
>>69548422
Were a tourist attraction. We're like the monkeys people take pictures of from afar while sitting in a safari jeep.
>>69538591
Im sure theres some UN shit out there in every galaxy were intelligent species have to agree not to go to other worlds and kill them all or enslave them.
>>69551246
anyone have more?
>>69552604
I have plenty more.
>people actually believe in aliens
How cute. Do you also believe in the tooth fairy? Aww.
Of course, I would love to find the aliens tomorrow.
It's basically my only chance of becoming an immortal.
>>69540156
What about crack?
>>69538591
Unless the alien lifeforms are synthetic, "post-singularity" transhumans, or have long since implemented either a strict species-wide caste system or eugenics, they very likely would be familiar with the same issues humanity has with wide disparities in degree of civilization/savagery among the people of their species. I'm talking both culturally and breeding-wise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JXrDwtiqQs
>>69552141
>On the otherhand if a planet has trees
Tall plants, or even plants themselves, are not an evolutionary inevitability.
>then it will have humanoid looking creatures at some point in its time
Why will it have them? You are taking liberties and engaging in baseless speculation. You also act as if the humanoid form is some sort of evolutionary apex, when it isn't. Much of the life on Earth is NOT of humanoid design.
>the some theropods may have eventually mutated their tails away and become fully erect and have their forelimbs become tool using rather than claws becoming the very first intelligent species but that meteor happened.
Bullshit. These creatures had a MUCH longer period of time(many tens of millions of years) in which they could have transitioned from made these transitions from semi-bipedal herbivores with dexterous digits to intelligent tool-using bipedal ones, only they never made that evolutionary leap. Humanity, on the other hand, made this leap in under ten million years.
You are placing bipedal locomotion and intelligence on a pedestal, while also treating these things as an evolutionary inevitability. The truth is that these things are nothing other than random adaptations in response to certain selective pressures. Even then, these changes occurred in only ONE branch of the primate family in the same area where other primate species were under the SAME SELECTIVE PRESSURES, and yet, none of them became bipedal tool users. What's more, almost every variant of that one branch of those tool-using bipedalers went extinct, save one.
>On a lower gravity planet quadrupeds would become bipedal much faster meaning
Why would any intelligent life have to be bipedal? Dolphins have brains larger than humans and they have NO pedals. This is indicative that intelligence could, at least potentially (dolphins are smart, but not "intelligent" as we would define it with human level sapience) arise in marine life.
> all these people who talk like our science and tech means fucking anything.
Lmao. Science is in such an infancy its ridiculous to assume we know shit at all.
>>69550532
>Schneider Drive
I guess its powered by underage girls
>>69552925
The thing is, in order for civilization to develop, you basically need an opposable thumb.
You need the ability to use tools and write things down.
This means having at least 4 limbs. Being bipedal isn't necessary, but it frees up two hands for the brain to work with.
Dolphins will never develop the ability to build a civilization because they lack the anatomy to make it feasible.
>>69552925
people just love to apply the folk theory of whig history to everything, don't they?
>>69552641
Please do post, they're fantastic
>ayyliums discover earth
>humans are the niggest
>we emmigrate en masse to other civs because their society is feminized as fuck
>bix nood muhfuggen
>beta ayyliums complain about humans cucking them with their "pure females" on a hologram sharing node.
Yas
>>69552925
The humanoid shape is nothing more than a slightly mutated variant of the primate skeleton meaning an arboreal creature can one day become a bipedal ground walking creature and due to the way tree branchs are hands are the best forelimbs to navigate through them. So trees means eventual intelligence anon.
>Bullshit. These creatures had a MUCH longer period of time(many tens of millions of years) in which they could have transitioned from made these transitions from semi-bipedal herbivores with dexterous digits to intelligent tool-using bipedal ones, only they never made that evolutionary leap.
The dinos were diapsids they were stupid fucks compared to synapsids like us and lacked warm bloodedness that is the key to higher intelligence because of a constantly fueled brain, that is why the birds are smart while the current reptiles are fucking retards. However it may have been possible for the diapsids to become warm blooded as an adaptation to the cooling earth.
> Even then, these changes occurred in only ONE branch of the primate family in the same area where other primate species were under the SAME SELECTIVE PRESSURES
All primates have the skeletal structure to stand up bipedally but their legs needs to be longer to walk like humans. Primates only became bipeds when they started walking on the african savannah which made tree locomotion useless.
>Why would any intelligent life have to be bipedal?
Its the most energy efficient land based physiology for intelligent life.
>Dolphins have brains larger than humans and they have NO pedals
They are absolute proof that developing intelligence in the water is pointless. I know dolphins are smart perhaps even smarter than us since their heightened brains predate our ape ancestors, and orcas can mindfuck humans but these creatures are stuck in the water and can really manifest their intelligence into the environment because they have no tool using limbs.
>>69553123
http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/36196/dolphin-with-arms-prepares-for-battle/
>>69552141
>All I do know is that life on planet with sunlight will eventually become photosyntetic meaning plant like life would be the most common things in the universe.
Continuing my post here: >>69552925
How do you know that photosynthetic life is inevitable? Why is this so? Where is your research? How any extraterrestrial worlds did you survey to collect this information? What percentage had plant life, and which had none? What was your sample size? What control factors did you use in your survey an its following analysis?
The first life on Earth was not photosynthetic, and much of it today is still not so. Photosynthetic life is just another adaptation, it is not a inevitable one.
Why does everyone lapse into the "inevitable" method of theorizing?
>This will arise!
>This will certainly come about given enough time!
You can't possibly know this. The best things you CAN point to are cases of convergent evolution such as the independent development of power flight in birds and insects, or the independent development of complex eyes in different creatures. While you can use these things to show that certain traits are favored by evolution, these things do not grant license to say that such developments are INEVITABLE.
Plants get along just fine without wings or eyes, and so do fungi.
>>69553277
>while the current reptiles are fucking retards
Read a book nigger
>>69553241
You guys are so stupid, aliens would have a device that would it impossible for us to get violent around them
>FUCK YOU XENO scum
>pushs button
>Why I am so at peace right now? I cant feel anything but bliss wow.
>>69553283
>http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/36196/dolphin-with-arms-prepares-for-battle/
LOL bullshit.
I'll believe it when I see it. Though if it's real, that's a frightening proposition.
>>69553277
Dinosauria may have been mesothermic
>>69553304
Plants are the reason we have anything on land to begin with, without our green friends we would still be fish in the water, and the land would be a barren wasteland.
I say on planets with open sunlight and UV protection things like plants would be very possible but chemosynthetic microbes is another possibility.
>>69553338
Diapsid reptiles are stupid compared to synpasids, look at the dinos all bite and no think, and even the carnivora mammals actually plan out their kills showing something that instinct only dinos were incapable of.
>>69553363
That would be racist.
>>69553506
You have what amounts to a 1950s education level about dinosaurs.
>>69553123
>The thing is, in order for civilization to develop, you basically need an opposable thumb.
Why? Disabled people are still capable of tool complex tool manipulation. People drive cars and even write with their feet.
An opposable digit is handy, but not required. Why would not a form of tentacle suffice in place of a hand? Your argument is specious.
>Dolphins will never develop the ability to build a civilization because they lack the anatomy to make it feasible.
Birds lack the anatomy also, and yet, they are capable of complex tool usage with much smaller brains. Do your research on ravens.
>This means having at least 4 limbs.
Octopi are capable of complex dexterous manipulation, and they have eight limbs.
Why cannot a creature have three limbs on which it wants, all of which end in a prehensile claw that allows for complex tool manipulation? Your arguments are specious.
>>69553506
Modern reptiles display intelligence completely alien to human because their senses and brains are entirely different.
Majority of animals are stupid as shit, not just reptiles.
in addition, it's near impossible to determine how intelligent something is if we have nothing remotely close to it to compare it to.
>>69538591
>hurr dur muh aliens so smart and shieet
quit projecting op
>>69553670
>Birds lack the anatomy also, and yet, they are capable of complex tool usage with much smaller brains. Do your research on ravens.
birds have beaks and talons that can be used very accurately tho
>>69553277
>So trees means eventual intelligence anon.
There is no correlation between the existence of trees and the inevitability of intelligence. Again, human ancestors and other primates inhabited the same continent and lives under the same conditions. Only one developed intelligence and bipedal locomotion.
There is still no evolutionary requirement for intelligence to arise.
>lacked warm bloodedness
We do not know that, yet, and may never.
>All primates have the skeletal structure to stand up bipedally but their legs needs to be longer to walk like humans.
Bears have the ability to stand and walk in two legs also. That is not an argument of inevitability.
>They are absolute proof that developing intelligence in the water is pointless.
Your are positing a point to evolution.
Let me correct that. There is no point to evolution. Evolution is the response of species to the pressures placed upon them by their environment, all of which occur because of random genetic mutations that confer certain advantages.
>Its the most energy efficient land based physiology for intelligent life.
What is the scientific basis for stating that two legs correlation this has to intelligence. Provide citations.
>>69553506
>look at the dinos all bite and no think
Talking with you is like trying to explain theories of quantum gravity to a dachshund .
>>69554159
>birds have beaks and talons that can be used very accurately tho
Link to me studies about the dexterity of the dolphin beak. Provide valid citations.
>>69554333
I was defending birds, not dolphins
dolphin snout is blunt and incapable of accurate gripping like a bird beak you nigger
>>69554400
>dolphin snout is blunt and incapable of accurate gripping like a bird beak
Citation needed.
>>69554333
what is this from, it reminds me of the Genesis project in Star Trek 2
>>69552540
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Directive
>>69554520
>corners aren't round
>proofs?
>>69551265
Shit, Didnt we already do that?
Ayys reported as landing = Project Bluebeam
Humans and human hybrid species exist throughout the milky way galaxy. The majority of them live relatively close to us, but there are a few outliers who exist in very distant reaches of our galaxy. Our DNA is present in numerous places.
>>69538591
>meet alien species
>discover the universe is full of them and we're in a jungle
>get eaten
it could be that simple, no retarded senate or anything
Find space smuggler and ficki ficki.
If these aliens are superior they must find diversity is strength.
>>69538591
We're basically niggers and some jew aliens want to protect us from some aryan aliens.
We should just let the aryan aliens kill us.
>>69555965
Yeah I'd try to get those sweet alien neetbux and ficki fickis too. Who wouldn't? The laserguns and stuff are just a bonus.
>>69552670
Mate do you have anymore of these? their pretty good reads.
>>69553670
>Why? Disabled people are still capable of tool complex tool manipulation. People drive cars and even write with their feet.
We're talking about evolution here. You need a mechanism to evolve the capability to do these things.
Without having the free hands, there's not much chance of the incremental increase in mental capacity providing any evolutionary advantage.
>Birds lack the anatomy also, and yet, they are capable of complex tool usage with much smaller brains.
Birds are never going to start a civilization.
>Octopi are capable of complex dexterous manipulation, and they have eight limbs.
I said AT LEAST 4.
not 3 because it's asymmetrical.
We're talking about liklihoods. Obviously we can genetically engineer a being that violates these things... but for it to evolve naturally there needs to be a mechanism.
Structures that don't lend themselves to that kind of mental evolution aren't likely to result in it.
>>69553111
Great, I had to look that up and now I'm on another watchlist.
>>69538591
> invite alien to sauna
> offer long drink
> offer weed
> if not relaxed then fuck him, dron him in river
> interplantery wars
> went better than expected
>>69553506
God Damn, I knew that islandniggers were stupid, and backwards as shit, but for fuck's sake look on the web to build your case on synapsids. There are many therapods which are surmised to be endothermic and possessing fair brain-to-body ratios, on par with modern ravens.
