>2016
>still being a slave to the gasoline jew
i sure hope you get yours before its too late
also is anyone going to watch the stream tonight?
https://tesla.com/
8:30 PT
Waited in line for 3 hours. Reserved two.
>>69529671
>https://tesla.com/
Tesla's are gay AF.
>>69531185
Yeah, /pol/ rolls coal.
>Current year
>Driving a car that won't survive the nuclear war
Its like you want to be a pedestrian pleb travailing the nuclear wasteland.
>>69529671
How do we make electricity, smart guy?
>>69529671
>buying the first year of any new generation or model of car
gay
>>69532012
Most new generation installed in the past year has been that faggy wind and solar shit.
>>69529671
>wanting a car that's silent
>wanting a car without a manual transmission
>wanting a car without a fucking transmission at all
>wanting a car that goes 57 feet before running out of power
>wanting a car that retarded liberals think is clean energy yet fail to realize the primary generator of electricity is burning fossil fuels
M'y dad has a leaf. Problem is they low autonomy. Better mixed.
>>69529671
>tfw work in the oil industry
Anon, why do you hate me? My coworkers all lost their jobs because the prices are so low now. Now you want to do this to me and make me lose mine?
Where is your heart anon?
>>69531826
>implying all cars don't need batteries
>>69529671
>buying a first generation mid class economy car
>any year
>>69532163
Less energy. 95% of the energy goes to the tire/road with an electric.
85%-65% goes to heat that essentially incinerates the ICE in a sand-nigger-fuel vehicle.
>>69531826
That's an image showing how goddamn deadly old cars were.
>>69529671
As expensive as the car is I can't afford it.
>>69532148
wrong.
Coal = 39%
Natural gas = 27%
Nuclear = 19%
Hydropower = 6%
Other renewables = 7%
Biomass = 1.7%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Solar = 0.4%
Wind = 4.4%
Petroleum = 1%
Other gases < 1%
this is from 2014
>http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3
so what's the point of an electric car? you may as well just burn gasoline directly.
>>69529671
>>69532012
Per the Dept of energy, presently only 40% of our country's electricity is derived from coal and that % is going down.
>Sucking Elon's cock
>Falling for the auto finance Jew
Reddit please go.
I drive a $2000 Honda that I do all my own work on, not that it needs anything more than oil changes. Gas is under $2/gal so I wouldn't break even with a $40,000 EV for like 1,000 years. That's ok.
>>69532658
you're dumb as shit
>>69529671
>Electric car for only $35,000
http://www.wired.com/2016/03/sorry-dont-expect-tesla-model-3-cost-30k/
I can buy a sweet coupe for that kind of money.
>>69529671
What the fuck, nothing's happening
>>69532331
>>implying all cars don't need batteries
Implying batteries and simple low tech electronics gets fried as easily as a car that is basically more smartphone then car.
>>69532463
But its awesome not having to repair the whole damn car every time you have a fender bender.
>>69532874
You're the one buying a tesla.
>>69532665
What about natural gas, and nuclear? I'd be impressed if 60% of your energy was coming from renewable sources.
>>69532163
you sound like you're from the south
![1813aqov5wc2jjpg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oIZeqgc.jpg "1813aqov5wc2jjpg[1].jpg")
>>69532874
>Powerwall
>Literally just a huge li-ion battery that's a wall
>one day, some idiot tries to nail a picture to it
>yfw
>>69532658
>so what's the point of an electric car? you may as well just burn gasoline directly.
Generally speaking an industrial dynamo is much more efficient than your internal combustion engine.
>>69532874
wow cool image, it doesn't have anything to do with my point.
electric cars are feel good bullshit. they may be fun to drive, but the energy that creates your electricity is just as dirty as gasoline. coal is actually worse for the environment, so you might be able to argue that using pure gas is better.
not to mention, how do you think the car is built? you know they aren't powering their factory with solar panels and windmills, right?
>>69533263
Fags that buy Teslas and Leafs also have solar panels.
>>69532163
Congrats on being dumb. Electricity generated by burning fossil fuels is much more efficient than a car engine.
![mirny1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FC3w2nC.jpg "mirny1[1].jpg")
>Li-Ion batteries
>Lithium mining
oh shit nigger what are you doing
>>69532325
Get another job nigger, free market is working.
You mean preorder a mechanically unreliable car? Keep sucking Elon's cock.
>the electric jew
>>69532163
>wanting a carriage without beautiful majestic horses pulling it
>wanting a carriage that noisy and shitty and not elegant and motor-less
>wanting a carriage that you have to put chemicals in not just feed normal food
fucking plebs, everyone know that technology can't ever improve and nothing new will ever be better than what we already have
t. a retard 100 years ago
>>69529671
I agree with this
People are way tooo dependant on oil
We should atleast attack such dependancy in a way
Gasoline is one
Its not oil that i hate its the fact that countries see it as a gateway for easy money
>>69533087
i bought call options on $TSLA three years ago and used the profits to buy the model S for free
and i'm doing the same thing with my profits from last month's $150 low for this model 3.
>>69533263
it depends on your state. given the initiatives for clean energy these percentages are only going up.
![g9ke6Pi[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MFGQaXL.jpg "g9ke6Pi[1].jpg")
>>69533662
>Free market
>Saudis flooding the market with cheap oil at a loss to artificially deflate bulk prices and price out other sellers
Pic related, it's essentially what SA is telling Russia, North Dakota, and Canada.
>>69533730
Tesla doesn't pay dividend so you had to sell stock to buy it.
When did you invest anyway.
>>69533730
>>69533964
never mind, didn't see call option
>>69533511
there isn't a one to one ratio regarding burning coal and gasoline combustion. it is a process that takes time.
regarding your second point, it will once this is complete.
you live in the past.
I have a 1973 Buick Riviera. Why in the fuck would I want a pussy electric car?
>>69532163
le supreme enthusiast detected
>>69533889
Dude, Leighe is Ricky's father
So much depends on the oil economy. Too bad it is foreign (middle east) oil that dominates.
Wonder what happens when the world's reliance on oil is greatly reduced. Could it be the complete collapse of the US dollar since Saudi oil is sold for US dollars?
>>69533434
Not by much after the extra conversion and distributive losses. And if you're next to a coalburning plant, the CO2 per mile is definitely greater than just using gasoline.
>>69533519
correct
it is now completely possible to remove yourself from 'the grid' and say fuck you to your energy provider
this is especially relevant if you live in less dense areas and want to live innawoods.
although it is not as cost efficient to do so today, in 5 years it will be cheaper than grid electricity.
>>69534089
Well fine, you probably are loaded and have a convertible and sedan that run on gas as a backup.
People who have a more moderate income can buy the car that they can fix themselves or is more reliable.
A combustion engine is much more practical in every possible way, and it's still cheaper.
Tesla could still fail btw. It almost did and it's not getting to be the new Ford any time soon.
>>69532658
Buy a fukin solar panel
>>69529671
>$100,000 for the performance of a Toyota Camry
Nope. I'll buy a porsche instead or a nice VW Golf R or something and smoke the shit out of you electric Jew fags.
>>69534590
>A combustion engine is much more practical in every possible way, and it's still cheaper.
From what I understand, electric motors are far simpler and require much less maintenance. You got a source for that?
Let me know when they come out with a 4x4 pickup.
>>69532376
holy shit you are stupid...
I read somewhere that these cars go 400km on 20 bucks worth of electricity. Would think about buying one if they made them cheap and available to low wage workers and had charging points everywhere I needed to go.
>>69534614
Its around 30-35000, try again
>>69534936
The model S is expensive and shit. I don't know anything about this new one.
car looks amazing
>>69534726
What I'm saying is you can just fill it up with oil and it runs.
As far as maintenance, well simply nobody knows.
You need several thousands of kilometers to know what maintenance a car needs.
Here's something I found:
https://forums.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/saving-maintenance-costs
Also if you take into account the price of the car, well it's a no brainer to go for gas if you don't have a massive income.
>>69535256
jesus christ
>>69534773
Do you travel over 400km per day before reaching your house to recharge?
I hope not, god damn.
35k, maybe less with a tax rebate is bretty good
It looks good too, the offering from Chevy I've seen like like a cross between a minivan and a Honda fit
>>69535272
suck my dick maintenance is free
>>69534600
>1 kW/m^2 sometimes
>33 kWh/gal always
>>69529671
Getting the new Maserati SUV that comes out this April, fuck a Tesla, not falling for the electric Jew.
>>69529671
soon
if i pre order the model 3 now would i qualify for the $7500 federal tax credit and a $2500 CA tax rebate?
>>69535393
The issue is if he decided to go for a drive through Australia and that battery dies he will literally die also.
>>69535009
the Model 3 is a smaller version of the Model S
>>69535645
By the time you get it the federal one will most likely expire.
Imagine a world without air pollution.
>>69535682
;)
>>69535703
>not wanting to live in a dystopian polluted hell hole
>>69529671
>he fell for the pollution meme
>>69535893
You have a point. Blade runner was pretty neat
>>69535436
It looks like an overpriced mid-range car with low-range interior.
But if it makes you happy.
I would buy 2 sports cars and one second hand to renovate for that price.
https://www.periscope.tv/TeslaMotors/1dRKZyRkpgNxB
THE FIRST TEST DRIVE
>>69529671
I'll probably buy something like a Model S to replace my 2012 Lexus LS460. I'll probably wait until ~2018-2020.
>>69535436
It has to be. The Model S breaks so often they couldn't even get major magazine reviews without numerous cars breaking. Car and Driver had three undriveable before they got one that worked. Consumer Reports had the door handle break off before they could even start their review.
The checklist for Model S buyers to check for common broken, non-working shit made by other Tesla owners runs to three pages.
>>69532163
VRRRR MY CARS NEED TO GO VROOM VROOM VRRRRRR CARS HEHEHE oh mom made chicken tendies
>Did you order your only slightly above average quality, overpriced, hipster vehicle yet /pol/?
>>69536325
This
I just bought a car. Won't need a new one for a few years at least. By then maybe electic vehicles won't be so cutting edge and expensive.
>>69535678
Well don't use an electric for travel.
Use it for local commute.
I actually drove a propane car for years in the early 90's.
Not truly for any real environmental reason, I'm a farmer and my dad just loved projects so he'd randomly convert one of our gazillion vehicles ect. I had a 82 Buick Regal that he converted to propane, drove it for years.
I mean, it was cheaper and my dad did like to say that it was better for the environment...but really, it was for the hell of it.
The line would freeze in the winter sometimes but other then that it was great, no problems at all.
I'm fine with alternative fuels.
>>69536479
It's silly to buy the first generation of anything
I'm excited as fuck for Tesla and VR but I'm definitely going to wait a few years for the problems to be worked out/prices to drop
>>69533889
Saudi Arabia is paying Russia, North Dakota, and Canada?
You can't get into the solar panel or wind industry?
But yeah, SA, Qatar and others are hurting, they've cut their defense spending. Al Jazeera America is closing down this month.
I want a electric pickup or utility truck. I only really drive from home to work and work related stuff in the area.
>>69534773
>>69535678
here's the aussie super chargers right now
>>69535256
So minimalist
>>69536911
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/31/news/saudi-arabia-russia-military-spending/index.html
>>69532463
My 95 year old Polish neighbor has one of those ancient 1950s chrome bumper cars. He literally can't see shit so he bumps into the back wall of his garage every day when pulling in. He literally has inches of dents in his cement wall but only a ton of scratches on the bumper.
>>69532874
And where does the power for that come from?
>>69535645
Six months after they pass 200,000 all time vehicle sales (which they will likely before the launch) it goes to 3750 for six months, then 1875, then nothing. Meaning some Model 3 buyers will probably get less than $7500.
>>69537206
Solar Mainly
Powerwall is a home battery that charges using electricity generated from solar panels, or when utility rates are low, and powers your home in the evening.
>>69536797
Technically it's Tesla's second generation battery skateboard platform after the Model S (and the Model X on which it was based).
It could even be argues as Tesla's 3rd generation vehicle after the Roadster which was basically a modified Lotus.
People preordering it now are still retarded because by the time the Model 3 enters production it will have to deal with the Chevy Bolt and Next-Gen Nissan Leaf.
>>69532163
>implying there won't be some iPod app that receives RPM data from the car and blasts car engine revs over your speakers in tune with actual RPMs
>>69529671
Gas is cheap as shit these days. I can buy a month's worth of gas for a single hour's wage.
And an Audi A6 is a hell of a lot nicer than a Tesla. That minimalist touch screen bullshit is the worst.
>>69537407
You're right
What I meant is with the Model S having poor build/QC issues at lower production levels, I can't expect much better when they produce the cheaper alternative at much higher volumes, Not for a little bit anyways.
>>69536157
do you own one because i've never had issues with mine, fag
>>69532163
>>wanting a car that retarded liberals think is clean energy yet fail to realize the primary generator of electricity is burning fossil fuels
>The US have hundreds of hydro worthy rivers
>Cannot into hydroelectricity
>Second largest polluter in the world after China
>tesla
>gasoline jew
reddit please fuck off
and stop sliding the board,
>>69538389
yet we pay a fucking fortune for it
>>69538606
4.9 cents per kilowatts. Europeans pay 20-30 cents per kilowatts. Electricity in Quebec is one of the cheapest in the world, despite the price hikes in recent years.
>>69535256
>no dash
They dun fucked up
>>69535515
>ICE's are 100% efficient
Derp
>>69538575
i've been here since 2004 and have never used reddit. kill yourself m8
>>69538389
>>The US have hundreds of hydro worthy rivers
>>Cannot into hydroelectricity
That's bullshit, there are like three undamed rivers left in the US. We have hyrdodams everywhere. Don't make us invade to take your precious hydrodams, leaf.
>>69529671
Laugh it up faggots you won't be afforded these luxuries for much longer. The way of the future is removing peoples ability to drive their own vehicles because most people are selfish and fucking retarded behind the wheel. Only the fantastically wealthy will afford cars in the future and they will be consigned to tracks as toys.
tesla is too expensive right now, you're not actually saving any money at all, even long term
the fact is electricity is as portable as gas, but spread wider and also it charges slower
tesla is actually pretty bad, everything is controlled via some stupid tablet shit, they need to make cheap affordable electric cars, like 15k dollars max, otherwise there's no point in buying them, except for epeen, better buy some chinese knockoff gas running cars
>>69539769
Try it faggot we kicked your ass last time. We still have nukes and its not hard to rig up and EMP nuke to blast over your shitty nation. Did you forget about NORAD amerifat?
>>69541200
why do canadians do this, do they not have pride in their nation? you're not only making yourself look bad, but your country too.
>>69532163
>200+ miles = 57 feet
silent is good, only faggots need a loud car. Also transmissionless is good also, simpler and low maintenance. You need to work on your dumb arguments.
>>69529671
>pre-ordering a car
Literally the liberal dream.
>>69529671
Is the price actually around 30k joollars? That's cheap for such a pretty car.
>>69529671
What charges your batteries, faggot? Sunshine?
Nope. Coal or glow rocks.
>Jews only control oil prices.
Okie dokie.
Have fun replacing your $5,000 battery every 2 years.
My dad bought a model s just last week and that should be good.
Going to be God tier for road trips using the auto drive.
>>69538606
That has more to do with the electric net like power cables, rather then the power sources. Canada is very big and scarcely populated and even in places like the gta the power gets imported from northern ontario
>>69531632
>mfw those teslas burn more coal than the idiots with the smoggy diesels.
what's with all the government subsidy bullshit?
tesla is about to get smoked by the bigger car makers who actually know what quality control is
>>69541730
>silent is good
enjoy pedestrians walking in front of you
>>69529671
>not building you own water engine
>He doesn't have the superior Camaro Z28
>>69540482
>the fact is electricity is as portable as gas
Sure thing, buddy.
Portable power sources have nowhere near the energy density of fossil fuels. You are never going to have an electric plane with the same capabilities and power as a modern jet engine. Better yet, let us see you lift a satellite into orbit with an electric rocket (in b4 muh space elevator).
Electric is fine, but it is not the same as hauling around hydrocarbons for energy-intensive jobs.
