You can tell who is a good /pol/ poster by asking them what their opinion of Depression is.
Go ahead, prove to your fellow posters that you are top-notch.
>take my pills goyim
>>69436665
>A great way to prove to the world how much of a bitch you are and how incapable you are at dealing with life & general stress
>>69436665
Woe is me
>>69436665
There is no such thing
>>69436665
Depression is a made-up disorder to help people cope with their own inadequacies. There is no biological basis for "depression", and most of the treatments for it are placebos at best.
If you feel "depressed", it's because you're a sack of shit and you need to snap out of it and get on with your life.
Depression = no future
>>69436665
I dunno. Probably best to let someone else who knows more about it than I am give their opinion.
I imagine the depression is more of a symptom than anything, to some error in the brain's chemistry or pathways.
>>69436860
Made me laugh
Depression = no future
Not being depressed = Future
There is no happiness or sadness
>>69436665
Depression is no joke.
>>69436665
If someone truly wants to kill themselves after I question them a to why, I will tell them how to do it.
Depression is a symptom, not a disorder
Only after you realize this can healing begin
>>69436665
>mouthbreakers who refuse to believe it exists
literally every thread about depression
>>69436932
>you need to snap out of it and get on with your life.
How?
>>69436932
>There is no biological basis for "depression"
hello canada
>>69436665
Depression is the only rational state of mind for anyone who understands modern politics.
The key to success is to adopt an irrational attitude, which is why people like Trump and Shillary are so successful.
>>69436932
>17 year old detected
Read your first PUA book, eh?
>>69436665
Depression is sad.
Depression can start off as uncomfortable thoughts, and if these aren't dealt with, they might start to control an individuals life to the extent that s/he becomes depressed. Further attempts to be happy, or "safe oneself" from being depressed only push the already depressed person deeper into it, since the control mechanisms of our brains won't allow the uncomfortable thoughts to appear and so it is impossible to "deal" with them after they have plunged one into misery. Professional help is needed if one reaches this stage.
depression is a cop out of life and for attention whores.
I was depressed
Diagnosed even
I would put on a fake smile every day and hang out with friends but in reality all i wwanted was the sadness to go away
Its fucked up and alot of people told me to just snap out of it. The thing was that its not so easy
It went away 1 day tho. Woke up and the sadness was gone. I was happy for the first time in a year.
Its no joke and only those who went trough it can really understand wwhat its like
Depression is the result of internet, media and consumption addictions (at least in people who didn't have real traumatic shit happen in their lives)
>>69436665
Depression Is more than just an emotion, it's a state of mind: there's no reason to live, no reason to try, no reason to care, no reason to love, no reason to eat, no reason to work, no reason to sleep, no reason to wake up, no reason.
a condition that can make you unable to experience any pleasure whatsoever, or make you feel like the only thing you can do is kill yourself.
normies like to say they're depressed when in reality they're just insufferable cunts.
skeptics think antidepressants are "happy pills" as if big pharma would allow such a thing to be legal. what antidepressants might do ranges from absolutely nothing, to making you feel normal again, to giving you insane side effects like making you kill yourself, erectile dysfunction, inability to achieve orgasm, inability to piss until you feel like your bladder is about to rupture, etc.
>>69437467
>depression is a cop out of life
and what're you doing with your life that's so fucking special
>>69437466
i think you're on the mark, but also anyone who's experienced a long period of feeling down can sometimes develop depression. the secret to prevention is to ignore it as best you can, which is why in every thread you get so many people getting super defensive about the issue.
once the cats out of the bag though you're changed for life
i go out for cigarettes at night and wear no seat belt
i floor my 160 hp shitbox and hope i die before i decide to brake
I always hit about 110 and slow down
>>69437624
this, the only way i could interact with people is if i was wasted. used to drink a fifth of whiskey every night so i could be social
It's a catch-all excuse for not being motivated or doing shit with your life. Fucking crybabies.
>>69436665
A state of being in which you can find little satisfaction in the world. Little to no enjoyment in things and a lack of motivation are the most common traits, but also suicidal/morbid thoughts are common.
Being in a good or bad mood is irrelevant.
>>69437624
>>69437699
Bollocks
>>69437789
good post
not really. fucking hell i'm glad i got over it
>>69437690
That's heavy.
I was diagnosed with severe depression 5 years ago.
But since every finn is depressed, i wasn't surprised
>>69437210
>>69437237
>>69437287
Not an arguements
>>69437942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_of_depression
>>69437210
Find the root of your depression and it should take care of itself
Therapy works for normies because they aren't self-aware but you should be OK taking care of yourself; therapists are trained to talk to retards and will take everything out of context and wilfully misinterpret what you say to make what you say agree with what they've already decided
There are good therapists but not very many and being a good therapist isn't profitable, so they're very expensive and hard to find
Learn to separate "things that make my life shit" and "things I beat myself up over" - you can work on both pretty easily but not if you can't identify why things are the way they are
If you read a lot about psychology, stop until you have your bearings straight.
You won't get over depression over night, and it will come back occasionally, but it's not so bad if you give it time.
Changes or instability in life bring changes in mood or disposition, so if that's the problem then learn to ignore how you feel and get your shit together. Contrarily, if you feel you're not doing enough, kick yourself in the ass and do more or do something different.
If you have habits you can't end, make their cessation regimented. If for example you spent 16h on /pol/ today, only do 15 tomorrow. If that doesn't work,just don't go on at all and call yourself a shithead every time you think about it and remind yourself how disappointed Donald Trump would be if you didn't end up successful.
Tl;dr: there's lots of stuff you can do. Its like anything that's painful at first - if you learn to move through depression after a while you don't even notice it.
> the definition of "Depression" in the psychology profession actually means someone who is unable to construct a future.....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_crisis
>>69437624
Well put. People who haven't experienced it tend to look like >>69436805, they are so used to a healthy supply of willpower that they think it can be pulled out of the ether at any time & at no cost. When really it's determined by the present chemical conditions of your brain.
>>69438075
thanks anon
>>69438075
https://mountainstoic.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/our-right-sphere-of-influence/
stoics really helped me, especially the spheres of influence thing once i finally understood it fully
>>69438075
this doesn't work for everyone
>>69436665
This is not a /pol/ topic.
>>69438075
I like a lot of what this poster wrote, but habits like compulsive internet use is not a problem in of itself. People delve into shit like that because they are constantly bombarded by negative emotions, and need a way to just drown it out so you don't go insane.
Cutting out a bad habit isn't a guarantee. It depends on the circumstance. If the bad thoughts disappeared, there would be no motive to get drunk/shitpost/do drugs etc
>>69438075
good post m8
>>69438386
It's not not a /pol/ topic
>>69436665
Depression is a state of mind with physical components in both genetics and in psychological "trauma" to neurons. The state of mind is a self defeating perception of reality rooted in an inability to cope with stress in a positive way.
>be in college
>barely make any money with my shit pizza job
>tuition/rent/insurance sucking up all my money all the time
>always a struggle to put tires on my car
>not good with girls because I've never actually tried talking to girls, constantly failing and each letdown hurts alot
>started getting fat because I would come home after work every night and drink soda and eat junk food
>college taking so long because my motivation is low and work prevents me from taking more than 3-4 classes per semester
>can't move out because I dont make enough money
>not willing to quit college because Ive already spent so much time.
>watch a bunch of videos, decide I want to try rock climbing
>get a gym membership, start getting muscular and in shape
>start smoking weed because so many of my friends do it
>helps me forget about the long line of bitches that never gave me a chance
>start getting happier, stop caring about stupid women
>women starting to give me more attention and life seeming to get better
>all because I started using drugs more frequently
I recommend anyone to try smoking decent medical grade marijuana, it could actually help out a shitload.
>>69436665
>what their opinion of Depression is
Bullshit that no one cares about except for burgers and other thin-skinned cucks
/pol/ is retarded as fuck when it comes to mental illness. They'll tell you all day that being a tranny or even just gay is a mental illness and that it can be treated with a specific medication, but depression and ADHD, et cetera, are not real.
>>69437070
This guy gets it. Depression is the inability to construct a future.
>uhuh brush It of MUh anecdote huhu
>huh look dad i showed them husdh edge
cool story bro.
>>69438359
I posted it because what works for everyone didn't work for me
If he wants to go to mental hospitals for 5 years, get on all kinds of pills, then talk to psychologists whom he has to keep explaining DSMV entries to then he's welcome to google and take the shitty generic advice every normie faggot gives about "go to the doctor" or "quit drinking caffeine" then he can fucking Google it
>>69436932
>just pull yourself up by the bootstraps
When do we get to annex you awful leaf-fuckers and send you to death camps?
>>69437070
i'm pretty fucking depressed browsing /pol/ and trying to deal with IRL pressures just makes me want to give up. The simplest shit like trying to get your teeth fixed costs hundreds of dollars trying to rent a place costs a hundreds of dollars trying to do pretty much anything now requires shit loads of money.
>>69438075
>Find the root of your depression and it should take care of itself
I think I know what the root of it is, but I don't really know how to fix it.
Thanks for the advice though. Since you're not an advocate of therapy, I guess you're not in favor of drugs.
It's carrying a slice of hell in your mind.
It's an emptyness that consumes your life.
The desperate struggle between the need to keep it secret and the desire for help tears you up. It's a division within yourself. You can begin to have conflicting wants, thoughts and actions causing internal conflict.
If you live with it long enough it becomes a way of life.
If someone told me to my face that depression was made up, they'd be shitting teeth tomorrow.
>>69436665
I don't even understand depression. I keep waiting to see it's actual form, but all I see are dumbasses spouting some woe is me shit.
where is actual depression.
>>69436932
>Depression is a made-up disorder to help people cope with their own inadequacies. There is no biological basis for "depression", and most of the treatments for it are placebos at best.
>If you feel "depressed", it's because you're a sack of shit and you need to snap out of it and get on with your life.
Are there still people who believe in this shit?
>>69436665
if i cant get my shit together i might as well go on a massive coke binge
>>69438670
Sadly yes, and we call those people normies.
>>69437624
Fuck off I'm not depressed. I've held a nihilistic view of life for most of my time here (which I guess may be the cause of my immense laziness) but I still live on, work, do chores, play, read, watch, eat, drink, sleep.
I'm empty yet I still move forward without any reason or meaning to hold on. You're just weak willed.
>>69436932
>>69436805
>>69436738
>>69437789
When I see posts like this I used to get mad, pleading internally why people just couldn't understand, like it was a personal attack on me even though it wasn't directly at me.
I've had clinical depression since I was 14. I'm 22 now. Now I don't really care anymore about what any of you think about depression. Because you're just not going to get it, at best you can do your research but getting on threads like these and just tossing shit out there really doesn't do anything. It's not even getting a self-deprecating laugh outta me.
I know how to treat myself. It's been going on this fucking long I think anyone would by now. At this point jabs like this don't get to me anymore. Because I don't expect anything of anyone.
My biggest unknown and my biggest obstacle is getting past the mindset of this: >>69438121
I cannot picture a future. I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing.
>>69438749
I've been suffering that nihilistic view point ever sense I was fucking 17. I'm almost 30 and I probably should have killed myself years ago.
>>69438797
Don't let those kind of posters bother you.
They never had to deal with it, and they have the inability to empathize. Their range of emotional understanding is limited because of it.
>>69438654
What is so hard to understand about the inability to construct a future?
You know how you have those thoughts of
"oh , i should check shit/pol/ today"
"I wonder whats on tv"
"let me go to gayporn then later hang out with my bro, its gonna be super fun"
Now imagine complete disillusionment, your core principles being eroded, your hobbies and interests becoming monotonous bullshit.
No "hi whats next"....just "let me exists for another day"
>>69438401
It was something I just tacked on by addictive personalities and depression go together pretty often, internet usage was an example and a less malicious one, but other stuff like smoking and drinking can actually cause depression.
I'd add that you have to treat the source of depression and the things caused by it simultaneously or near-simultaneously or else you're going to be in an endless cycle.
One other thing, no-one can force you to do anything. Especially not a psychologist if you do see one,you have to work with them, and you will have to do things that make you uncomfortable (part of why I don't recommend it at all for people on 4chan).
Also get some hobbies. If you're male and don't do anything manly, go learn to lift or shoot some guns.
>>69438797
>cannot picture a future
What do you mean by this? I see a future but its something I feel like I'll never be able to grasp. Is this the same thing?
>>69436665
Chemical imbalances caused by the fact that our society is so royally fucked on every level that it's almost surreal. Mainly overwhelming indifference and callousness rather than boo hoo I'm so sad.
>>69438881
Yeah, that's what I mean. Never met anyone like that. my friends, the people who spout it online. always ironically the people who have a million opportunities, and can dig them out of a hole like that. meanwhile the people with the shittiest lives just get stuck in.
That's how I experienced it. For my entire life.
>>69436665
When you're feeling down, and you just want to kill people lmao.
>>69436665
You capitalizing "Depression" made me think that the topic was the Great Depression. I was really looking forward to coming and chatting about it.
Instead it's faggots ridiculing other faggots for their abloo bloo bloo's. Fuck you OP, make a worthwhile thread once in your life.
>>69438797
You probably just got bitten in the head by spider or something
>>69438654
A depressed brain was on an "auto pilot", like most people's were, and then something took out its GPS system. Everything else still works, but you're lost. Motivation and self worth are non existent.
Look at my flag.
Why the hell should i be depressive, i'm fighting for the future of my country.
>>69436665
I was depressed until it ruined my relationship. Guess what I learned? It doesn't fucking matter. You have nothin to be sad about. You can hook yourself up to modern vices like video games and shit and lose yourself in the infinitely diverse range of entertainment or you can focus on redpill things and fighting for a cause. Being depressed is bullshit but getting out of it isn't. I know I wouldn't wanna hear this when in depressed, just take what I say to mindj
>>69438558
suicide is caused primarily by a lack of control over your surrounding and own circumstances. people don't kill themselves when bad things happen, examples: starving to death, entire family dies, penis cut off, forced into cannibalism
people DO kill themselves when: lack of a job, chained up or in prison, unable to marry, does not own land, people will not allow you to talk
modern depression is 100% that humans have given up control over simple things such as ability to marry young, or own a garden where you can alter the landscape
>>69436665
A depression is a sustained, long-term downturn in economic activity in one or more economies.
>>69438654
>I keep waiting to see it's actual form
For me it's my inner monologue constantly talking about what a failure I am as a person, combined with an overwhelming feeling that there's no point in continuing to live.
>>69438931
You're half right. Obviously we all ahve things we'd like to do and be with our jobs and futures.
Just imagine like you're lost in a forest and you literally don't have a fucking clue what to do. You don't even have survival mode on to press forward with your situation.
Put that into everyday life and you're getting a vague picture of what you'd like. But you're doubting every step of it, and you really don't have a firm grasp that it's possible or what you really want.
>>69439064
Yeah I'm Spiderman, with ultra web-swinging powers of angst.
>>69436665
Pretty much pic related.
>>69439082
i will refer to >>69438992
third times the charm holy shit
The best way to fight depression is to injure or kill all those that cause it.
Of course the government doesn't like this. So your next best bet, is antidepressants or alcohol. Enjoy your hell fuck faces.
>>69439249
Let me help you
>>69436805
>>69436860
>>69436908
>>69436932
Even if it were the case that depression that depression has no clinical basis, we all agree that people who consider themselves or are considered depressed are an issue, at least when tax money is concerned. Saving the discussion as to whether the government should actually pay for this for later, it is desirable to find a method that works for solving this problem. Researchers in this field believe there are more efficient methods than telling people to snap out of it. Are you claiming that these researchers are malicious or negligent in their research?
>>69439224
I doubt every little thing than I freak myself out and fuck everything up. Even on the simplest tasks such as writing a tip
>>69439223
Yeah exactly, it's just I've never if not barely ever seen this. it's always the people who have the easiest, most successful life ever say it.
>>69439164
m8 if someone cut my penis off I wouldn't even go to the hospital, just straight home to blow my brains out
Life without dick is no life at all
>>69438992
>anecdote
That doesn't necessarily negate the millions of people who can't function.
Depressed people are usually behind the "im fine".."Im just tired" facade. Further more, it occurs to people in developed countries because they have more time to ponder instead of just slaving away at some physical labor, where life is just simple "I work on a farm from 6-10".
Humans, when stripped of the instinct of survival, and when resources are abundant, we begin to try an appease that void with something. If you didn't have a conventional upbringing, or are alienated from the general populous, that'a when existential crisis occurs and then...'inability to construct a future".
>>69438728
Dude said:
>There is no biological basis for "depression"
Lol... I've just reviewed studies in the relation between depressive states and dysfunction of the lymbic system of the brain.
Leaf-fag here can get lost: >>69436932
Or maybe one day he will be truly depressed and, guess what?, he will revise all his strongman alpha macho beliefs that say depressed = loser and victim blamed (if depressed = your fault).
I guess Canacuck here is the same dude who tells his kids they should blame themselves if they get a fever or fall sick after catching the flu.
>>69439331
forgive me for having no knowledge of something i've never seen.
>>69436932
Depression is an evolutionary adaptation, it serves a purpose. It's just not very useful in our modern society. If you are depressed you generally are very introspective in you're thinking. This is exactly because there is something wrong in your life and your body is telling you to think about what it is and fix it.
>>69439330
I'm just speaking about the facts, m8
suicide is primarily driven by a lack of control over the factors of one's existence.
unemployment is the single highest risk factor in suicide, literally hundreds of times more deadly than having your dick cut off.
it has to do with the way the GABA receptors in the brain function.
modern psychosis exists because your brain is literally telling you something is wrong that you cannot find a job and have kids.
our instinctual neurology is smarter than the bureaucrats in washington.
>>69436665
Depression isn't real. It's something you convince yourself of to be a degenerate fuck instead of taking control of your life.
So you're sad? Big deal! It happens to everybody. Just go outside and do something like working out or shoot guns or whatever.
I guarantee that no problem you think you have is that big a deal, once you get some perspective.
>>69439483
>So you're sad?
you don't know what depression is, do you?
>>69439311
Sounds more like anxiety bro.
I had massive issues with that a few years ago.
>>69439373
I assume you have a computer...furthermore an internet connection
>never seen
Do you know what google is? "Depression video" "depressed people testimonial"...
I personally haven't seen a schizo person, but I know there out there.
Have you never seen a bum on the street who looks down in the dumps. Most likely they're depressed.
I'm not trying to be mean, and depression also has genetic predisposition, but its out there.
>>69439350
Strong men denying depression are just deluding themselves or are blissfully ignorant. Whether that is right or wrong, idk, because it helps stave off depression. The problem is that they can go off the deepend another way if they crutch on their delusions too much.
Clinical Depression is not the same as "feeling sad." In severe cases people are treated with electro-convulsive therapy which has been proven to be very effective. Their problems still remain, so if they were just sad about something, why does their life radically improve after medically-induced seizures in a lab environment?
>>69438075
Learned helplessness is my root cause I reckon.
When I was a teenager I had a dream of being a pilot. Then I found out I had a minor colour deficiency which never inhibited me at all in life and found out the only thing I couldn't do was colourblindness tests, even my backup plan of joining the army was destroyed. I was left with no sense of identity or future.
Then just after I graduated with no future in mind, mum gets diagnosed with terminal brain cancer.
What happened was I ended up being subjected to situations I had no control over things where I felt completely helpless and things just kept getting worse and I just stopped trying to fix things (even things that I still could control). Failed units, women trouble, losing jobs. I just accepted that shit would get worse and I need to stop trying. from the ages of 16 to 25 my life has been in a constant state of decline and while I try to tell myself that it will get better, I don't believe it for one minute.
>>69436665
Depression is failing out of college and having huge student loans to pay back since the government doesn't want to help invest in it's people to create a better nation.
Depression is trying to sign up for Obamacare for a month and a half and every time you want to get information or fill out an application, the site is down.
Depression is realizing that the government is snuffing out it's people through bureacracy and forcing them to pay more and more essentially cutting away at the bottom dollar of the people.
Depression is coming to the realization that you can't go your own way in society and that you must rush to get a job that will go nowhere just to pay for health insurance and loan interest.
I am contemplating suicide because I, a 20 year old perfectly healthy male, have to pay 200$ a month for health insurance.
If I got a minimum wage job, I'd literally only be paying for health insurance and student loans and gas to get to work.
America is completely inversed in government now.
It should be giving it's people a chance to rise up into a better life and contribute in an increasingly global economy by investing in it's own people! (Investing in public education, and higher education, and raising the minimum wage)
It shouldn't be snuffing out the people by having very high corporate tax rates (especially for small businesses) and forcing it's citizens to buy products (health insurance) when the average middle class family can barely get by as it is now.
We are going to see $2 trillion student loans, more people defaulting on them, and people not retiring well into their 70's because they have way less money to save because of higher taxes and obamacare.
It's total bullshit.
We've cut food stamps, education funding, and still hadefence budget and people wonder why America is a shit country.
America isn't American anymore.
I'm literally going to vote for any candidate that will repeal Obamacare.
Fuck it. Trump it is then.
1/2
>>69439324
Well, to be perfectly honest, pretty much everything else in my life is going ok. It's just this one thing. I guess it would seem like I'm a spoiled piece of shit huh? I probably.
The cause of my depression seems entirely serious to me though.
>>69439606
That's the thing. I assume all the people who really do have it who have no fucking future never say it, meanwhile all the people pretending they have it who got easy mode never shut the fuck up about it, and that's sad.
>>69439408
For me when I'm not completely fucked out of my head i'm pretty much immune to panic and have responded to life and death situations calmly.
So that's a plus I guess.
>>69436665
Depression is waking up and feeling like you have already failed those you love.
>>69437690
stop doing that, faggot. Don't die.
>>69438478
This.
Working out regulary and smoking weed from time to time really helps. Working out helps in the long run and weed gives you a break for some days and lets you feel good again so you can cope better with the shit in everyday life.
>>69439621
lobotomies of certain brain regions ALSO eliminate depression.
the neurological condition is caused primarily by life circumstances, and, as I detailed above, a lack of CONTROL.
cages horses chew on metal until their teeth shatter and their gums bleed.
>>69439483
>from the country with one of the highest suicide rates
leave the shitposting to the australians and the canadians
>>69436665
Actually depression is just like actual anxiety disorder. It's a chemical imbalance in the brain that can't be controlled.
Unfortunately too many people self-diagnose themselves and doctors are all too happy to go along with it to push pills. I watched my mom battle depression for years.
>>69439673
You're right, and most likely thats the case, people "sad" trying to get attention. Real depression is debilitating, and the person usually doesn't care about anything else, its as if the outside world fades.
It means you're a fucking self-righteous faggot who thinks he's too good for the world
>>69439656
It's totally fucking backwards.
We've cut food stamps, all sorts of education funding, have shit infrastructure and have barely trimmed the huge defence budget, and people wonder why America is a shit country.
We need to lower the corporate tax rate, invest in education again (not go crazy like Bernie though), cut the defence budget, invest in our crumbling infrastructure, repeal Obamacare, and build the fucking wall.
It's a really fucking sad day when Donald Trump is the best candidate for president of this country.
He has my vote. It's fucking locked in.
2/2
>>69438595
Depends on if you're solely depressed or have something else wrong with you
I suggested not looking into psychology too much, but that was maybe bad advice because by the time I started having serious depressive episodes I was already decently well-versed in psychology. Don't go off on deterministic mental soliloquies to yourself trying to determine whether free will exists and what you should do in the event it doesn't and other shit like that and you might be fine.
A psychologist can be good just to give you an objective analysis of your condition - and of course they're always going to tell you you need to keep talking to them, but you're just here to go window shopping basically.
You go to the psychologist and ask them for an evaluation, just to see how messed up you are. Don't go in asking them to give you a whole battery of tests, though, they'll just talk to you and ask you a variety of questions, which you should answer honestly except the "do you feel like killing yourself" meme (and by the way, HIPPA should really be strengthened so that people can be honest with their doctors). You tell them "well no, but I keep waiting for myself to die by so.e miraculous accident" or "well I wouldn't make an active attempt, but if I knew I would die at a set date I wouldn't do anything to change it".
By giving those answers you tell them what they need to know without getting yourself committed. Answer everything else honestly and give serious consideration to what they say at the end.
If you're only depressed, and it's mild-to-moderate depression, don't go back to the therapist unless you want to. If it's severe, see what the prices are. If you have something else in conjunction [not including autism, insomnia, social anxiety, or schizoid personality disorder (without psychotic episodes)] then you should seriously consider both therapy and medication. If you have social anxiety, you may or may not benefit from medication but I did not.
>>69438797
Why the fuck do you just not being depress ?
I was depressed as fuck as a kid but I tell myself whatever happen, I wont do drug, I wont smoke, I wont cut myself. etc
I figured I was clinically depress but never got diagnosed cause im afraid of taking pill and just lived through it,
Life was pretty shit but once im out of puberty shit got better again.
I alway feel that depressive people can't take my advices since my life was not fucked up enough that Im not qualified to give them advice on depression or something.
>>69436665
A cry for attention that became mainstream and institutionalised by retards. Everyone feels sad at some point, normal people get over their shit and move on instead.
There's a difference between lobotomies and electro-convulsive therapy - the latter doesn't remove pieces of the brain or stop any part of it from working. If depression is merely being sad about circumstances, then ECT shouldn't work. ECT doesn't get you out of debt, doesn't make your kids love you more, doesn't bring your dog back to life. What it does is remove the symptoms and make it so you can function and enjoy things again.
>>69436665
I was depressemble for a while after my mom died, we moved to another continent and I never managed to make new friends.
>>69439925
Depressed*
Jesus
>>69439802
As someone who experienced depression, it definitely made me want to avoid attention. You feel worthless and you don't want anyone to know what you're going through. You feel like a waste of an individual and the less people who know how shitty you look/feel, the better.
>>69439873
>Why the fuck do you just not being depress ?
I imagine if I could I would.
>>69439760
the chemical imbalance theory is 50 years old and fucking stupid. please shut up
>>69439643
learned helplessness is the correct conclusion to come to. you HAVE NO CONTROL. that's why people are fucking depressed.
for example, I was tryingto be a cop. NY police exams were sued for being racist because niggers couldn't sit still and read. the new test passes 95% of test takers, meaning that hiring decisions are now made arbitrarily (for niggers, of course.)
so I decided to change careers to air traffic control... GUESS WHAT HAPPENED to the test?
we have no control. that's why this is a communist country.
>>69439709
i waited too long to get obamacare
I can't get help, therapists wont even ackowledge me, not that i have the money to pay out of pocket anyway
it's almost like an impulse when i drive at night. My depression tenfolds, and the only thing i can think about is how if I make it home, all I'll be doing is watching netflix while everyone i thought cared about me continues to not check on me
it's like an adrenaline thing, I guess. But even flooring my car doesn't make me happy anymore. Jerking off is a chore. Movies are all predictable and boring as fuck. If I don't die soon, I'll probably do something stupid
I'm a firm believer in TCM, and in Confucian medicine, it is believed that ailments of the body can more often be attributed to lifestyle, environment, and habitual behavior than a virus or germ - it was your actions that led you to develop said illness, after all.
Those depressed through a hugely negative change like death or divorce should change diet, take new hobbies, and seek counselling. Women suffering postnatal depression should seek the help of a nanny, get more sleep, have a diet high in vitamin C, and read large paperback books to exercise the mind.
Those diagnosed with disorders like dysthemia should seek a combination og drugs and councelling; it is undeniable that some suffering depressive disorders can not be helped though lifestyle change and herbal medicine.
>>69440035
If chemical imbalance theory is so dumb, why is the use of drugs with the intent of correcting them imbalance accepted practice? Jews?
>>69436665
Depression is a long-term downturn in economic activity in one or more economies
>>69439873
Then maybe you weren't depressed, and definitely not clinically depressed.
Alot of kids growing up through puberty experience obviously vast amounts of angst and depression, and by the time they're done they just stop getting it. It's common.
That didn't happen for me, I simply don't have that luxury. I don't need a reason to be depressed. It just happens.
It happened at times even when I was at my happiest usually. When I had a good education at Uni, I was getting work done, I was putting alot of hours in, I was in a really good relationship, I was even getting paid work from my performance at Uni and I was living on my own and functioning well at the time.
That's all gone now. Things change, obviously. But being depressed didn't help. It destroyed my relationship of 3 years.
>>69439802
Not all depression is crippling. Look up dysthymia.
>>69439922
>IF depression is merely being sad
lack of control isn't "merely" being sad
masking the symptoms of cancer doesn't cure cancer. neither does ECT cure anything.
Of course, if you want to throw yourself into a cage and volunteer to get beat and raped, and get ECT and drugs to prove that ECT making you "feel" better is a good medical outcome, feel free to do it to yourself
>>69440083
i just have to watch this 3 or 4 times every time its posted.
love you aus bros, wish you were our canada
>>69439025
>native Chicagoan
He don't look like a nigger to me
>>69440193
You're welcome to take Melbourne or Sydney whenever mate.
>>69436932
>no depression
If Jeb wasn't from rich family he would be in deep trouble and have even lower energy.
When your feels can melt steels
>>69439920
I don't want attention when i'm depressed. I Don't feel sad either. I just want everything to fuck off and die, especially myself.
>>69440193
I watch it with kekles every time its posted too.
/pol/ would be unbearable without Australia. You can say, they are natures anti-depressant.
I get let down and put down so fucking often im used to it, depression is a term i deem for those who cant fucking move on, deal with it your life is shit so is mine, my good luck is occasional and enough to keep me from dying so far, sure you can cry about it and have a bad day but just fucking get over it
>>69440132
clinicians act as a natural, nationwide sample size for medical theory.
they KNOW and ADMIT that the drugs they prescribe can't "pass alpha" in terms of effectiveness. even wikipedia says so
but they can make money and prod at the edges of psych knowledge by continuing the experiment.
neurologists have identified at least 6 or 7 pathways through which depression can operate. SSRIs, the main class of drugs, only THEORETICALLY (but don't, it's been admitted they don't work) but theoretically only work on ONE of the mechanisms.
do you suppose that psychiatrists bother to neural scan you to figure out if the drug you're taking targets the area of YOUR brain that is depressed?
try googling the end of evidence based medecine
>>69440006
I concur.
>>69440342
By telling me that. You are crying for attention. Checkmate leaf.
>>69436665
Depression is a normal human emotion - everyone feels depressed at some point and most people will go through a funk that will last for an extended amount of time.
'Clinical Depression' is a made-up condition that is used to sell drugs. Its genius is that it targets the narcissism of the millennial human who wants to be special, and has always been told they are special, buts soons discovers they are completely unremarkable they are.
Once diagnosed with 'Clinical Depression' the special snowflake now feels validated - "If it wasn't for this depression I would be a success" "I am special after all, this depression (that you will never understand) makes me special and it is my duty to continuously post memes about it on facebook'.
All the majority of these people need is more exercise and to be more pro-active about changing their situation.
Only tiny percentage actually have a mental illness.
>>69440184
ECT does not make you feel "better." It makes you feel normal.
And lack of control does not disappear after ECT. What disappears are the symptoms of depression (e.g. not being able to enjoy anything, not being able to be productive, constant state of hopelessness, etc.)
I had the procedure done myself and clinical depression runs in my family.
After ECT I was still able to feel sad, angry, happy, etc. I merely returned to a normal range of emotions and was able to do things again. Nothing else changed in my life except for the treatments.
It does not stop you from feeling sad or helpless. Sometimes I get sad, sometimes I feel helpless, sometimes I feel like I have no future - but these feelings are from events that happen and I'm able to cheer myself up after a while. Rather than go for months and months of not being able to do anything.
>>69436665
Depression that can be detected empirically (hormone imbalances, abnormal brain activity) is simply a disease and should be treated with the appropriate drugs/therapies.
Depression that has no measurable existence and is diagnosed by some psychologist without any actual diagnostic test is bullshit and should be treated with a bullet.
>>69440438
>"citation"
>404
>>69440438
exercise cures depression because exercise is one of the few things that if you work at it, honestly, you WILL improve.
depression is about lacking control. but you DO control your body and health.
how can people be pro active about things they have no control over, such as employment?
>>69440444
ECT and lobotomies both eliminate depression, but eliminate intense joy.
>helplessnes
helplessness is literally the main diagnostic criteria for depression. "sadness" is NOT, AT ALL a diagnostic criteria.
maybe you got zapped by a mad scientist. but clearly you don't understand what was done to you, or what even you went through.
>>69438797
I kinda understand, I was very lost a few years ago and didn't know what I wanted from life. I'd rather just sleep all the time.
I somehow got dragged out of it and setting goals really helped me with that. For example, I wanted to save money to go on a trip to East-Asia. I still didn't go there yet, but that goal is not my main goal anymore. Now I got other goals like becoming more social (mainly with girls, generally I am pretty social already), getting fit, and basically have something to look forward to all the time or be doing something. Sometimes looking forward to something is too distant (i.e. the trip I still want to do), so it's also important to have short term goals.
I've been wondering what the reason is why I want to complete these goals, as I sometimes still don't see the meaning in them. But as long as I stay busy with something, I prevent my mind from wandering too far off.
Cutting down on video games and learning myself discipline helped a lot with that. I still don't have much discipline at home, that's why I go elsewhere (library to study, gym to lift, go to friends to do social stuff instead of only chatting/texting). Basically just get out of your current situation, because that one sucks. I get more depressed the longer I stay at home.
>>69437755
sorry you didn't get your 1 reply, here it is
>>69440413
Take your checkmate and fuck a dingo 'straya. Nobody cares.
>>69439224
I know this feel ; ;
Depression is never going to sleep, but staying awake till you pass out every night. Because when you lie there "going to sleep" you think about things.
Never take their pills.
Take shrooms instead
>>69440438
Feeling bad isn't depression, people take pills to not feel the feel all the time, then you dealing with depression, not just anti-depression pills, many take drugs or drown in alcohol, shit ain't normal or something ain't normal in your head, can't wake up.
>>69440438
You're viewing the causal relationship backwards. For many people, they are doing fine until beset with clinical depression. The onset of depression isn't validating their failure but more often causing it.
The question is how do you regulate your mind and body to get them back on track? Exercise and positive thinking help, but psychiatrists are there to bridge that gap with medication and consultation.
>>69440438
>"If it wasn't for this depression I would be a success"
What if I'm depressed because I'm unsuccessful? Also, I don't really think I'm special, at least not in a good way. I think the way I'm different from others
>>69440589
Major depression includes feelings of helplessness, loss of hope, feelings of self-hate, suicidal ideation, and sometimes even psychosis.
Lobotomies stop part of the brain from functioning. Electro-convulsive therapy doesn't. Saying ECT is like a lobotomy is like saying having your leg removed because of knee pain is the same thing as having your knee treated.
I realize there are a lot of people who don't know the difference between feeling sad, occasionally depressed, and full-blown clinical depression, but that doesn't mean clinical depression isn't an actual medical problem.
>>69440704
Psilocybin has been linked to reducing activity in parts of the brain linked to depression.
Never felt better than the month after trying shrooms.
>>69440589
I agree that the feeling of a lack of control of your life can lead to depression and that looking for work is one of the most soul crushing things you can do.
However, you can be pro-active by doing volunteer work or doing casual labour.
I have always been pro-active with my job hunting and even when I couldn't find a permanent job I could always find a temp job as a labourer.
I don't wanna do anything at all for the rest of my life.
Sobriety is my enemy.
I can't sleep.
>>69439673
Directly after and since Robin Williams killed himself, suddenly every fucking normie faggot had to go on social media and tell everyone how depressed they were. They're not, really. Everyone who's experienced depression seems fond of pointing at others and saying "you're not really depressed, I am", but that's not what I'm doing here: these people think that simply by virtue of having made the claim it must be true.
You'll note that they're mostly women, and that borderline personality disorder describes the average woman perfectly; the average woman is neither depressed nor borderline,nor are most of the women who are described as the latter or self diagnose the former.
Men who are depressed typically don't say much about it, in part because we've been conditioned not to (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) and other factors as well. /pol/ has the occasional tfw no gf post, but the amount of faggots in this thread claiming depression is certainly more than you'd expect.
Tl;dr: women are retarded whores, and you incorrectly conflate normies with actual people
>>69440881
I like acid for that.
>>69440881
>>69440704
Can attest. Doing DMT, Shrooms or Acid is like nature's redpill. I never felt better for the next month or even few months after doing it.
>>69440438
Yeah, well no. I've been a "hero" and declined help with my clinical depression it is a thing. You will now say I'm good goy for taking meds, but for the sake of holy kek if I wasn't playing hero i wouldn't lost 4 years of my life being wrecked by depression, meds helped me alot and atfer 8 months I could stop taking them and now I feel like myself again. It is not about taking meds for the rest of your life they just help you get past that point when you return from oblivion which you can't do by yourself
>inb4 you weakling
to all you heroes I wish you this I really do you ignorants
Oh, and ECT does NOT reduce your capacity to feel joy. It gives you the ability to actually experience joy again.
>>69440165
>Alot of kids growing up through puberty experience obviously vast amounts of angst and depression, and by the time they're done they just stop getting it.
I still got depression nowadays, it's just not so crippling that im unable to do shit throughout my day.
>It destroyed my relationship of 3 years.
This is what Im talking about.
People really do have good intention and want to help but somehow you can't take their word seriously can you ?
because we must all try to out-depress each other all the time or something.
Just let it go man.
Instead of taking pride in your suffering just work toward a better future for yourself.
>>69438931
>I see a future but its something I feel like I'll never be able to grasp.
wow. this is NLP textbook stuff. get this: it doesnt matter you see a future, if you cant grasp it, as in, handle it securely into your hands its useless. you need to feel it, then the picture will become more solid and youll be able to walk through it.
>>69440881
>>69440967
>>69440984
Should I if I am generally depressed, asocial and anxious?
Can I do it alone in my room?
>>69441089
>Should I if I am generally depressed, asocial and anxious?
>Can I do it alone in my room?
dont even try.
>>69440725
Spoken like a true special snowflake
>Everyone feels bad, what I have is super-special feeling bad that you could never understand
>>69441143
W..why?
I wanna get better and expand my mind
Which part is problematic? Because the anxiety is not so bad anymore.
>>69441089
The IDF will getcha
>>69441089
I did acid for the first time alone in my room. Just sat around, watched trippy music and videos, and generally had a good time.
Acid's really great for the outdoors though.
DMT should definitely be tried in the safety and comfort of your room. Not sure I'd recommend it unless you've got some money though.
>>69440876
ECT DOES stop brain function. your brain is performing a certain function (in this case, makng you feel depressed) you ZAP it with electricity, and it stops performing that function, as well as similar, related functions
are you dumb, or are you just too invested in this to admit you nuked a part of your brain?
>>69440890
yeah but the employment situation is fucked m8. exercise isn't going to help that, any more than candy for an assault victim will
and people who doggedly insist otherwise are giving candy to an assault victim
>>69440996
>People really do have good intention and want to help but somehow you can't take their word seriously can you ?
because we must all try to out-depress each other all the time or something.
Quite the contrary. I simply don't talk about it, even with the people I'm closest to who are aware of my depression. I don't even feel comfortable talking about it right now.
Men tend to do this alot. Women don't. With women it's a contest, and they do like to talk about it.
Retrospectively, I can handle my shit 1000x better than I ever could as a teenager. So yeah, the phrase "it gets better" has some truth to it.
The hard pill to swallow is knowing you're probably enduring this for the rest of your life. Even at your happiest.
Everyday is a work in progress forward. Taking pride in suffering is what people who think they're depressed do. They indulge in their moods out of comfort, like a fat cunt eating.
>>69441089
I don't recommend doing it alone. Do it with a friend doing it with you, or supervising you.
Unless you think you can handle it. It's 3 general rules.
>Good company
>Good place to trip
>Good mood.
If you don't have all 3 lined up, you're gonna have a bad time possibly.
>>69440758
I can accept the idea that their are some people that have a true mental illness that leads them to feel an uncontrollable sadness but the majority of people that I have known that have been diagnosed as 'Clinically Depressed' have usually had a set-back in their life and have just wallowed in self pity.
Telling these people that it is an uncontrollable situation and that they need drugs is counter-productive.
>>69441169
Who said i have depression? I am talking about that people who take pills or overuse alcohol there is a very high chance they are depressed, such people are weaker or they do it on purpose. A healthy mind can never get addicted. A good indicator of depression is also failing relationships, since many women feel depressed and seek out new men, thinking they going to be better, doesn't mens husband done anything wrong at all.
Depression is constantly chasing goals, because you never truly satisfied with where you are and what you have.
>>69436665
>>69436932
Watch moe anime, watch/search the highest rated. It will remove your depression, plus, you'll forget to masturbate...
>>69438538
I am a homosexual and I believe there is something out there to cure me.
I believe being a tranny is a more server mental disorder and needs to be cured
>>69441250
I wouldn't recomend doing any paychedelic alone for the first time. Do it with a couple people in a place you feel comfortable, tripping can enhance feelings of anxiety and paranoia during the experience, so having someone there to ground you can help
>>69438749
>I'm not depressed
Well indeed you're not. You're just shit.
>>69440868
By what measure do you judge success? You have been given unrealistic expectations and failing to meet these has left you feeling a failure.
You are trying to be a beta when you are probably a gamma or an epsilom.
>>69441314
Which part of the brain is destroyed with ECT?
Puking is a normal function of the human body, but I'm pretty sure you'd have a problem if you were puking day and night for months/years.
>>69439643
I have a similar problem with learned helplessness, fortunately it's easy to get over once you identify it.
>>69441347
if you think depression is controllable, please, volunteer to perform back breaking labor in russia whilst getting beaten daily for 10 years
oh wait, it's OBVIOUS that depression is a product of circumstance, because you WON'T do the above
>>69441334
Wait though, I never really have good mood for a whole bunch of time. Virtually never - my version of good mood is shitfaced drunk.
That's precisely the problem that makes me wanna do psychedelics(was thinking about shrooms).
>>69441449
I'm taking it into account, I came to a conclusion that I feel the best in my room alone, but I'll get a friend to come over and watch me trip if it's a must.
baseline emotional state for 99% of people imo senpai. either you learn to live with it, or don't.
>>69441250
>Which part is problematic? Because the anxiety is not so bad anymore.
Everyone responds to psychedelics differently. I seem to have gotten lucky in that acid works great for me. I've seen a dude whose taken the same dose of the same acid have a bad trip that fucked with him.
>>69441143 Is probably worried that you could have a bad reaction and do something that harms you.
>>69441431
No one who's actually gay says this.
You're probably just some bisexual retard who needs to lay off the porn
>>69441347
On my own anecdotal basis, I was on SSRIs for about 2 years until I just quit cold turkey (apparently you are not supposed to do this). But, things had improved in my life to the point where I felt I didn't need/want to take the SSRIs.
Been feeling pretty good since that day but the occasional feelings of hopelessness/despair come up. It's usually just about masking it and soldier through.
I can tell you that pre-diagnosis, trying to do this was a losing endeavor and only led to my mental state becoming worse. Knowing about your condition truly is half the battle.
>>69441314
????
Re-read my last post, where did I suggest exercise for job hunting?
>>69441089
DMT is best alone in your room. Dont do Shrooms or LSD alone without the experience for it.
>>69441493
the parts of the brain whose function is reduced by ECT involve shutting down the GABA receptors by killing them. this has many side effects
1. reduced awareness
2. reduced pleasure response
3. lack of danger response
etc. etc.
you're obviously a functional human still. so are the people hwo had lobotomies. or people who have their corpus collosum severed (cutting their brain in half.)
they're still functional people, and can do everything they did before, even when you cut the brain IN HALF.
if you will only recognize an effect if it is complete and debilitating and obvious to a layman, I don't know what to say to you
I mean, you're still dumb, but you were probably dumb before you got ECT, so...
>>69441347
>Telling these people that it is an uncontrollable situation
I've seen a few different therapists and doctors in the last couple years because I've had to move around a lot, and none of them have told me that my situation is uncontrollable and requires medicine to fix. They only recommended a combination of drug and talk therapy because it's got a good track record.
>>69441683
meant for>>69441485
>>69441493
wtf are you going on about dick head?
>>69441527
>I came to a conclusion that I feel the best in my room alone
mind expansion my ass then. no drug will help you if you still keep your old habits. this experience will reinforce your room/uterus safe space.
or worse, it will show you the true nature of the life youre living and youll freak out with no one to support you.
>>69441527
Sort it out first. You really gotta psyche yourself up for it, feel good about the experience. Get out in nature too, my best trips were out with friends and outside. Like in the woods or the beach. Treat it like an adventure.
>>69438834
Same. I'll be 30 in July and just broke up with my boyfriend after wasting yet another year of my life. Now I'm awake at 5 AM and have to be at work in 3 hours but I'm on
/pol/ and haven't slept. What is my life. And why the fuck is this thread on /pol/?
>>69441459
>You are trying to be a beta when you are probably a gamma or an epsilom.
And you don't think being a gamma/epsilon and that not being able to improve my station in life to even the level of beta, much less alpha, is reason in enough to be depressed?
>>69441527
I made sure I was in a mellow mood when I took shrooms, had an experienced friend there with me too.
I've opted out of some offered shrooms when I had some nasty shit kicking around in my head just in case.
Don't forget to take your cheical jew
>>69441683
People who have had lobotomies, which greatly reduces the intellect and reduces the patient's mind to a child-like state, are functioning normally? I'm starting to understand why you might be confused.
>>69441827
>>69441947
>>69442009
Alright, yeah, that would probably be best if I were careful with it and wait until I'm more stable, and do it with a friend.
Hopefully I'll be able to break this condition on my own, thanks guys.
>>69441973
the modern world is literally built to cater to the needs of gammas/epsilons
the women are fat and ugly for you, and cheap in terms of money, the goals are low, the intelligence threshold set quite low
what do you want, except to rut with some hog whore? it's easier than ever in history for you to do so. if you're a gamma, you should be happy.
>>69441598
>>69440985
>>69440611
When I was between 19-22 I used to loathe waking-up and sleeping was the highlight of my day. I used to feel close to tears at work on Monday mornings, particularly after Xmas break.
The main reason, I think, that I was in such a rut was that I was doing too many recreational drugs. The only thing apart from sleep that made me not feel like shit was being on drugs.
The things that helped me escape this depression were...
>Stop drugs (apart from a bit of coke)
>Start going out socially more
>save-up to go backpacking on my own
>jogging and lifting (I didn't get swole but I did look fit)
When I got to Australia, just being in a situation that forced me to be more outgoing completely changed my outlook. I do get those low feelings every now and again but now I have a family and I don't have the time to wallow in misery anymore, which helps.
It is a reaction to being in an unavoidable scenario.
>>69442164
>what do you want, except to rut with some hog whore?
To be with a girl that I'm actually attracted to?
>>69442051
not all lobotomies are the same, dude
look, if you got your brain zapped without reading why it was an "Absolute last case effort" then you were a retard before your brain got fried, so of course you came out retarded
electricity destroys neural tissue. period. the extent of damage is well researched and debatable, but denying ANY damage?
wew lad, you're a special kind of idiot
btw look up those split brain experiments on youtube. you can literalyl have your brain CUT IN HALF and retain most normal function. but to claim it's not damaged is ridiculous.
>>69442279
american women are 33% overweight and 33% obese. the remaining 33% still include the ugly.
you are making an unreasonable demand, gamma-kun
>>69442177
Yeah it was probably just the fact that my outlook on life had changed for the worse, but it definitely seemed like my dreams were consistently better than my reality. So, sleep was definitely preferable than dealing with the mental anguish of reality.
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>>69441973
That is the problem - If you are a gamma, be happy being a successful gamma. Go on cheap holidays, eat cheap junkfood fuck your chubby wife and breed chubby little gammas.
Who knows? You may even produce a couple of betas who will climb the social ladder. Seeing that happen will give you a lot of happiness.
>>69436665
>if i feel sad i should just blame others and a makeup disease, take pills instead of actually doing something productive or healthy
its literally the same as the fat pandemic, ameriturds cant deal with being human so they make up diseases to blame their shortcomings
To add to >>69441418, lighten up and watch some comedy from time to time.
>>69442403
I think I'd rather die.
>>69442514
Idk where depressed or obese people for that matter "blame others"? They may blame genetics or some event in their life, but depression like other diseases has chemical triggers and causes. Chemical imbalance isn't a person.
>>69437554
How did you do that?
>>69442279
Assume they're taken.
Neither give no shits nor take ther shit. Take care of yourself and they might make themselves available.
Get over it or kill yourself
>>69442804
>Take care of yourself and they might make themselves available.
I don't want to get too far into /r9k/ territory, but I've been taking care of myself, and it never seems to be good enough.
>>69438797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N_jjY7W_fs
i can only recommend this to get relieve and learn some kindness towards urself.
It looks at first glance like some religious shit but it ACTUALLY WORKS and is presented in a rational, modern way.
/adv/ sent me that when i really felt down the toilet once and it made me feel better and made a change in my life.
>>69442514
its literally completely different from obesity. you have no good reason to think that just because there are people who are just stupid bitches there cant be a legitimate condition that causes you to feel like shit.
obese people on the other hand can all lose weight via the laws of physics.
it also has nothing to do with america
I've been depressed, taking medications, since 2000. I've been through a lot in the mental health world. Many lengthy stays at mental hospitals, many groups, many meetings with case workers.
I feel like people judge me for having depression.
I feel like the scars on my body from self harm and suicide attempts scare people away.
I feel like life will become unbearable if things get bad. Because I've come close to killing myself when I felt like there was no hope, that I might do it again.
I feel like I've lost a lot of friends because they see me as a depressed, insane person.
I feel like I'll never marry or have a good love life.
Depression is so real! It's part of my reality. You may not have it, or you may have had it as bad as somebody else. Please do not discount the fact that many people have depression.
>>69436665
Depression is everyday life. A lifestyle for us Finns.
>>69443073
if not bait, you lost friends because you're a fag
I'm severely depressed and have been hospitalized, but I never cut myself because I'm not a faggot
depression exists, and is real, and I hope one day we can address the social issues feeding into it.
if you're just a faggot, though, I'm not sure if we need to cure you
The NHS recognizes clinical depression as a real issue.
I used to be "depressed", even cut into my legs a bit at one point. I got over it pretty quickly though, and you can't even tell I did anything to my legs because that shit actually hurts yo; I only gave myself some very superficial cuts, you can't even tell unless I get super tanned, and even then its just a few very thin, long lines that don't look like standard cutter wounds.
My cousin suffers from "clinical depression" and is on pills. I don't see it though, but apparently she used to have suicidal thoughts and shit.
I honestly don't know. I think it's a bit bull, or that people who get depressed have something inherently wrong with their brains that can never be truly fixed.
I find it funny that people from the US/Australia and other rich countries laugh at the notion of depression.
I have been pretty depressed by now for at least 8 years. I go to work, sometimes double shifts, working weekends and such and by the end of month I dont receive much pay.
Unemployment rate is sky high here, so I cant afford to quit and search. I cant move out of the country b/c people will hate me for being an immigrant. Now I use drugs and alcohol because there is nothing else to do in my town, even though I have a permanent heart condition which fucked me over for my entire life. I have thinked of suicide, but my parents are depending on my money, so I cant do that.
There is no hapiness on the balkans.
>>69442961
I've never gone to /r9k so don't know what goes on there. Honestly though,if your posting in this thread there might be more important matters in your life than who your sticking your dick in.
>>69443173
I'm not sure if you're joking or not.
How is self harm faggot? What faggoty things did I do to lose friends?
>>69436932
There are two types of depression you moron. The first is a chemical imbalance in the brain and might be corrected with medication while the other is what you talk about.
Guess which one is the most common? Funny enough, they think giving people pills will fix environment depression.
>>69439298
This.
>It's my fault my life sucks.
>not everyone else for being retarded.
And people wonder why school shootings still happen.
People actually believe depression is real? LMAO
Depression is an excuse to not succeed
Some people just really want to fail
>>69436932
>depression is a meme
>>69444026
Which studies and books should I read that support your claim?
Depression is a tricky word.
I've never felt "depressed", because I know very very deep inside of me that I'm lucky to be alive, in a rich country, be healthy etc.
What's hard to handle is when I can't project my future in my mind for many reasons. I used to be super pumped in college because I was imagining my bright future. I did my best after, had some success, but also hit some difficulties, that's where for the 1st time of my life, I felt "depressed", but not in the medical term. I'm still trying to project my future in my mind, that's the key. But the situation isn't really clear now, although I'm working on it.
thanks for listening anons
>>69444328
typical depressed nerd
escape to your literary wonderland if it makes you feel better
>>69444428
aren't most taiwanese going to the mainland for jobs?
that must suck, but at least chinese have some sort of basic semblance of merit and valuing family formation
if we can assume that we feel less depressed in "natural" conditions, e.g. handsome people are called handsome, smart are recognized as smart, we have children, our wife isn't fat, we can find work
I'm hoping at least a couple of those are in your favor. I know for a fact that the girls in taichung aren't 胖女
>>69445913
I'm not Taiwanese, I'm traveling the world.
