Is he right, /pol/? Are you guys libertarians?
Why or why not?
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/
>>69419112
Interesting read
>>69419112
Breitbart licking /pol/'s asshole, kek
>>69419112
fuck this faggot infiltrator
sage
>>69419112
Noice bread placement, bro
Huh. He mentioned us by name, but no clickable link thankfully.
>>69419112
No, I'm literally a national socialist without the gas chambers.
>>69419112
/pol/ is the opposite of a libertarian. It opposes social freedom and favors a strong militaristic government. /pol/ is edgy:the ideology
>>69419112
Fucking wrong
>>69419671
The Tay AI stunt brought 4chan back into the limelight. Take that, /b/.
>>69419112
pol and the alt-right dindu nuffin
>>69419112
Not a libertarian, Just a Nationalist. I don't care about folks getting rich, just don't destroy the country in the process. And I would like to see SJW shit stopped being promoted as mainstream when it isn't.
don't forget to report, sage and shut the shills down
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/tnXOUo9IGGENMuBiXQNDFQ/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/LiibsIWgSMDz2TTDx4LNMw/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/QwjMc4xHv-z_yuhLpBj4Dg/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/wiVI3bdnj9FqZUkxxbc8rA/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/gX5TC-pbmNLPMi5lQbSc-g/
Milo is /pol/ poison, his shills are cancer
>>69419112
well, i believe in strong protection of individual rights, small government.
I differ from being Libertarian because I am pro isolationist.
>>69419112
I'm part libertarian, part conservative, fully nationalist.
I don't get why Milo even thinks he can speak for /pol/. He's not even a nationalist, he's a Greek who grew up in UK except he doesn't show loyalty to his Queen because he's a wannabe-American now.
A real /pol/ faggot would be: in a stable relationship with white Aryan guy, say no to alcohol and drugs, military position, swear loyalty to his own nation instead finding more niggers to fuck from other countries.
>>69419713
Me too. And the gays need to be tolerated.
>>69419112
I don't give a rats ass what you do, who you fuck or marry, I just don't want to pay for it in taxes so social liberal, fiscal conservative.
I have no idea what that makes me.
>>69419112
Well, considering both Libertarian and NatSoc take into account natural order, this makes sense. Only difference is Libertarians let evolution/nature take its course through inaction, NatSoc try to accelerate this through direct action. That's why NatSoc is level 3 and Libertarian is level 2. Once you learn how stupid people are and how slow the process is, you become more frustrated and become NatSoc.
The final stage though is coming to terms with your frustration, realizing that NatSoc's can be just as emotion-driven as the left, and will never be elected or respected at a wide scale; its name is tarnished. Besides, it's modernist scum just like Hitler hated anyways.
Pic related, its a modernist eyesore compared to a traditional coat of arms.
>>69420454
Libertarian retard, that or classical liberal
>>69420456
This pic
>>69419112
I am.
If Trump doesn't get the nomination, then I'm going for Johnson.
>>69419759
I never considered libertarianism to be against strong military. As far as social contract theory goes, it's the
one good reason for a government to exist. If you mean militaristic as opposed to isolationist then it's blurry
because there's certain instances most people would agree proactive military action is a necessity.
>>69419112
Look this faggot almost made it an entire fucking article without reminding us that he's a faggot. At least he didn't talk about sucking dick and fucking dudes this time, which he normally does. Literally the second biggest complaint about gays - after it being a sin - is that they can't keep their promiscuous sex lives to themselves.
Not only that, but Milo wants to fit into the alt-right community so badly, but he has to convince himself that he agrees with them on everything first. He does this by spending most of the article denying the basic tenants of alt-right, which are racism and anti-homosexuality and similar degeneracy. He tries to play Holocaust denial and racism off as JUST A PRANK BRO, but he couldn't be more wrong.
What Milo describes at length in this article is not actually the alt-right; it's just the Christian right wing.
The 1488ers, as he calls them, are more important to the alt-right than faggots like him will ever be. We don't want gays speaking for us. We hate them. Dislike and distrust of the Jews is also inherent in the alt-right.
I suggest reading this article from The Right Stuff if you want ACTUAL insight into what the alt-right is. Both racism and a hatred for clashing cultures, such as the Jews, are inherent to our movement.
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/03/06/big-tentism/
>>69421004
>Look this faggot almost made it an entire fucking article without reminding us that he's a faggot.
To be fair, he really is TURBO-gay. He's a meme for gay. Whenever I think of gay (don't judge), I think of him. It works!
>>69420198
Libertarianism is a broad enough term to include your beliefs.
>>69419112
There's a spectrum, but there's a reason Ron Paul gets posted here so much. Trump's isolationist policies are what makes him popular here. Hardly anyone is stepping up to shill for the NSA, though.
I don't get american nationalism, your ancestors fled britain/ireland/germany/italy because they were pussies lmao.
>>69421737
>t. Li(terally who?)htuania
>>69421737
We are nationalists because we beat England, because we conquered the USA and now the USA, Russia and China effectively rules the sum of the world.
It is understandable why you do not understand, your nation is so insignificant and small. How could you know what greatness is like?
:^)
>/pol/ is satire: the article
Kikebart does it again!
/pol/ killed off libtards and their pothole roads
We're national socialists
This article is bullshit. Here is a real simple introduction to the alt-right, from The Right STuff forum.
1.) People are different. Human inequality is a fact of life and belief systems that deny this lead to distortion and oppression.
2.) Our world is tribal. The struggle for survival which has produced all life on earth extends into biological human races, which both exist and matter to their members.
3.) Our tribe is being suppressed. The new left doctrine of racial struggle in favor of non-Whites only, a product of decolonization and the defeat of nationalists by egalitarians after WWII, must be repudiated and Whites must be allowed to take their own side in their affairs.
4.) Men are not women and women are not men. Men and women have roles to fulfill for the species to persist in a stable and healthy way.
5.) Freedom is a responsibility and not a right. The freedom of too many incompetent people to make too many bad decisions is harmful to society.
6.) If we must be a democratic society, the franchise should be limited. Universal democracy is a bad system. It gives power to the worst and shackles the fittest. It is a degenerative institution in which the weak and unproductive collaborate against the strong and sustainable.
>The final alt-right shit-test is whether or not someone agrees with the reality that Jewish elites are opposed to our entire program.
>>69421737
We created something out of scratch. The greatest fucking nation since the Roman Empire.
Also Milo doesn't understand it from other nation's point of view.
I personally don't get why an American would praise Hitler and Nazis, he was your enemy. But some of us actually were honorary Aryans. And I do think a homosexual can be a honorary Aryan(like some were) as well if they prove to be one, but Milo definitely doesn't fit that category.
>>69419713
>without the gas chambers
so you're just a national socialist, right?
>>69421954
Irrelevantuania
EternalbutthurtwhenRussiashowsuptuania
>>69420454
>social liberal, fiscal conservative
literally a lolbertarian
viable philosophy if you live in an all-white (NO JEWS) nation
>>69421622
true, but I suppose I am more speaking toward the open borders version of Libertarianism popularly offered up in the states.
Countries need protected borders. Immigration should only be at replacement levels and should only be the best, most skilled citizens the country can attract. Population doesn't need to keep growing.
>>69422248
Do you have a link for this, m8?
>>69422326
>he was your enemy
No. That's what (((they))) made everyone believe.
>>69422300
>The greatest fucking nation since the Roman Empire.
Don't forget the Brits.
>>69421737
We walked on the moon, slavbro.
>>69422516
Who, the Nazis? They didn't like you, sorry.
>>69422248
Can non white be part of alt-right too?
>>69422480
This is basically how I feel as well. I just don't understand the people who think that libertarianism and AnCap are synonymous.
I identify as what you could call a nationalist libertarian
>>69419112
We are just your average nigger-hating libertarians
>>69419112
Personal freedoms are good as long as they're in private
Economic freedoms are not only good, they're necessary
The open borders, the belief that any impediment experienced by a business is immoral, the ridiculous extrapolation of any topic to dismiss the negatives associated with it is contemptible bullshit though.
>>69419112
There's something to it, but it's funny due to the obvious authoritarian streak running through a lot of Trump supporters. Libertarians and NatSocs make for strange bedfellows.
I guess you can be pro-white and pro-freedom.
>>69422794
I am.
Nobody likes niggers, including blacks
>>69422794
I don't see why not? Alt-Right is race realistic, not white supremacist.
Maybe in a philosophical sense. Most people on the "alt-right" started with libertarianism, anyway.
>>69422839
>nationalist libertarian
So you think a person has the liberty to move to Australia and start doing their own shit but at the same time you don't? Sounds schizo.
>>69421004
> our movement
Shut the fuck up faggot
This election has really exposed pols power level and it's making me really nervous. We're gaming the fuck out of this election and FINALLY everyone else is catching on. Berniefucks are actively trying to influence is every single day. Breitbart has been sucking our cocks for the last couple months. The media has slowly been realizing that pol not only exists but that it's pretty influential. The Cruz sex scandal thing, with its multiple false leads designed to mislead and demean us really drive that home.
I can only imagine what's gonna happen when it's down to Trump and Hillary. The shills are gonna double. It's gonna be a struggle to trust just about anything you read on here. We're gonna be toyed with like we've been toyed with before.
I just don't know what's gonna happen pol.
>being a libertarian
Fuck off degenerates.
The state is great, I love the state, the state loves me. That state needs to be a fascist state though.
I would however like if fascism was just the means to achieve starship troopers.
The problem with libertarianism is that it doesn't change culture, our culture is poisoned and only fascism provides the cure for a sick culture.
>>69423274
>only fascism provides the cure for a sick culture.
you just need an ethnostate.
>>69423070
Libertarianism is not open borders or anarchism.
there is no such thing as a alt right movement... its the asdf political movement you faggots
>>69423274
I would argue that the culture would naturally heal if the state would stop enabling degeneracy.
>>69419112
It doesn't have to be complicated.
Just nationalism.
>>69423262
Nobody here buys what Shillary's selling. Nobody.
She stands on the pillar of new wave cuck SJW liberalism because it's the hip thing to do on her side. And they're too stupid to realize Hillary rides whichever wave gets her the most donors.
We all fucking hate feminism here, and we all know about the skeletons in Hillary's closet.
Nobody will succumb to the shills come the general election. We just know better than that. There will be threads for sure, but everyones gonna take a massive shit on them.
Because when it comes to facts, and reality and policy and more importantly the truth about her. We all beat her whole handedly.
>>69419112
I'm a voluntaryist which is basically a libertarian.
>>69420423
American nationalism is any white who gains citizenship to America.
So yes, he's an American nationalist and he belongs here.
>>69423502
>if the state would stop enabling degeneracy
The problem is is that it isn't going to do that, and a libertarian state wouldn't do it either. It'd always tolerate it under that autistic principle that is the NAP.
The state should enforce and monitor morality, the pozz is too deep at this point, it needs to be forcibly removed.
>>69423380
>you just need an ethnostate
Agreed, but try getting a bunch of libertarians to form an ethnostate. It'd literally be:
>wow just wow this is against freedom of movement!
>muh whites want too much money!
>fuck the poor, browns work for less!
Libertarianism is the fetishisation of wealth and the elevation of the individual and his will to the status of God. It is a repugnant ideology that has no place as part of the final solution.
>>69423682
Yeah but it's widely acknowledged that while pol's allegiance to Trump can't be swayed, our enthusiasm can be misdirected in ways that harm Trump's campaign.
>>69419759
Newfag
>>69421004
1488ers as in the LARPers?
You guys make my sides hurt. >:) thx for the lols
>>69421737
Let's go to war faggot.
1v1
Winner takes land
>>69419112
stop spamming this goddamn kike faggots shit here you fucking kikebart interns
>>69422794
I'll echo that race realism is far and away from any form of supremacy.
So, yes.
I read the entire article. Pretty damn good, not gonna lie.
I'd say a good portion here are libertarians
Remember, libertarian doesn't equate to open borders and shit. That's anarchy.
Libertarian means more individual freedom for those in a country governed by libertarians.
It's still national.
>>69422712
Nazis were faggots anyway.
Go worship manlet hitler some more.
>>69423926
Possibly. But that's all up to Trump's campaign.
At this point, anything the establishment and the opposition & MSM has thrown at us has been deflected within the day or the week. They simply can't figure it out, with Trump or with his supporters. There might be a time when they can figure out misdirection. But by that point it's probably way too late. Half of the people here who support Trump already will simply not sway.
Because there's no other candidate like him running currently who embodies the goals the most of what the majority of people here are concerned with. Building a wall is just the beginning.
>>69423840
He's not white though, he just tries to look like one but the bad dye job doesn't fool me.
>>69422712
Nazis were leftist socialist faggots that worshiped shitskins (Aryans)
>>69423840
Milo is not a US citizen.
>>69423920
If the state stops handing out gibs to every other retard, they will either continue with their degeneracy until they die, or start being useful. Its as simple as that. Degeneracy is just parasitism and entitlement, if you stop feeding it, it dies, because it is maladaptive by definition.
>>69419112
This faggot is intent on flooding us with cucks.
I fucking hate this nigger loving kike faggot.
>>69423920
Also, I will state again, for the third time in this thread, libertarianism is not the same thing as AnCap, and it doesn't necessarily prescribe open borders or cosmopolitianism.
>>69424416
>implying the wealthy and those able to afford their degeneracy will stop being degenerate.
The problem is more than just dindus and bogans on the dole being degens lad, there is a serious endemic problem of degeneracy in our society where the promiscuous and ammoral have penetrated to all stratum of society. Degeneracy isn't just for peasants anymore.
There's no social stigma associated with it, and shutting off the gibs for stoners isn't going to kill it.
I am a libertarian but I believe the US is at a time where we must be Nationalistic and to an extent Isolationist. We must band together and fix our country before we fuck it up even more.
How patronizing. Isn't there a duck somewhere Milo should be sucking?
>>69419112
he's o-one of us, fampais
>The funny thing is, being Millennials, they’re often quite diverse. Just visit a /pol/ thread, where posters’ nationalities are identified with small flags next to their posting IDs. You’ll see flags from the west, the Balkans, Turkey, the Middle East, South America, and even, sometimes, Africa. Everyone on the anonymous board hurls the most vicious slurs and stereotypes each other, but like jocks busting each other’s balls at the college bar, it’s obvious that there’s little real hatred present.
>>69419112
No way in Hell would I be a libertardian.
>>69419112
we are trying tomake carl the cuck play in a cuck porno come and sign our petiton >>69424661
>>69419576
Sekret club eccks dee dee dee
>>69424698
What is your definition of degeneracy?
Libertarianism is the right wing version of Communism. Both are a pipe dream that COULD work, but have never functionally worked in the real world.
> inb4 the success of 1700s era American Libertarianism is used as an example as to why it could work in the 21st century.
>>69419112
FUCK off Milo
I'm not gonna be a means to your e-fame you dick
stop using us for shekels
Also
>/pol/ is one person
I'm a monarchist you faggots
>>69419112
>/pol/ is satire
>they only pretend to be racist
:')
a libertarian federal government is the path to fascist united states. balkanization is the way forward
>>69419112
>/pol/ is satire : the article
I'm not racist but we WILL kill all non-europeans, and we WILL kill all traitors, traitors that happily out themselves on social medias for some sweet, sweet virtue signaling.
Laughing at it doesn't matter. It will happen. The pendulum have been pushed far too much. You better hope it breaks and the genocide is accelerated tremendously without effective opposition, for if not, the Réaction will be glorious, unprecedented, and global.
Death to subhumans, and death to traitors.
Hate islam
hate liberals
hate blacks
hate mexicans
yeah, libertarians alright
>>69422379
Kek. Yes
>>69424356
Last time I was in Greece everyone was white.
Sure they had black hair and dark brown eyes.
But so do I, majority of my DNA comes from the French.
Why don't you consider Greeks white?
>>69419112
We're Nationalists
No further comment
>>69425035
Oh i forgot, hand-off the japanese, they have proven time and time again their status of honorary europeans.
>>69424927
How dare you!
>>69425037
You forgot that we really hate kikes, too
>>69419112
A lot of the things advocated on here are antithetical to libertarianism.
>>69424114
I will fuck your women.
>>69424356
Well I guess Greeks & Italians are descendants of Africans. But they obviously have gentile facial features and can push out white kids.
I have no problem with Southern Europeans in America. Actually I prefer them.
>>69425023
are you saying libertarianism will lead to balkanization? is it because with the abolishment or minimization of welfare, whites and asians will become redpilled on how much the lower IQ races rely on them, and they'll have to band together if they want to keep their standard of living and not be taken advantage of by thug shitskins?
>>69425110
If you don't have light colored eyes and hair you're not white. Here's a real Finnish Aryan homosexual.
>>69419112
No I'm not. I'm nat.soc. Because it was so obvious that nazism worked in an ideological aspect
>>69419112
No I'm not. I'm nat.soc. Because it was so obvious that nazism worked in an ideological aspect.
>>69419112
Well I sure as fuck ain't a socialist
>>69421004
>muh homosexuality
>muh stormfags
>muh hating jews because they're jewish, not because they're very smart leftists in positions of great power
>we
>we
Gas yourself faggot
>>69425499
We get your women after we win, finaly they will be treated well.
>>69424903
Defining degeneracy is pretty difficult, its kind of the moralistic right's "racist"
but generally
- excessive drinking
- ((((clubbing))))
- immodest dress
- homosexuality in all its forms
- promiscuity
- drug abuse
- promotion of non-traditional family units (fag marriage, mixed race families, no-fault divorce, etc)
- race mixing
- casual sex ever
That's a broad smathering of things that come to mind
>>69419112
milo only wrote about westerners. he didnt consider the eastern yuros that are actually racist
>>69425533
Then I guess I'm not white? Your women really like me. Hmm....
>>69425527
no, it's simply because dissolving federal laws will allow the states to pick up the slack. your point might come about though, but as an effect
>>69425952
What are "my women"? Finnish woman = worthless traitor. You can have her.
>>69422590
Fuck the Mongols. They just made people pay tribute and let them continue on, that's not really much of an empire.
>>69419112
Sure. Except for Trump, the only person I ever considered voting for was Big Bad Ron Paul.
I don't really care about party labels
>>69419112
You know all those anons who occasionally pop up complaining about /pol/acks being too natsoc and are too eager to GTKRWN and throwing the insult "stormweenie" around?
Milo was probably one of those fags. Milo pls stop being a fag.
>>69419112
Not about the libertarian thing... but I think he might be onto something with regards to the "natural conservative" bit.
I think most of the people here would agree that we need to push back against the - let's call it what it is - cultural genocide being waged by the far left in America and Europe, but would also be completely fine with a non-violent solution where leftists simply agree to stop treating being a white male as something to be simultaneously feared, blamed, suppressed, and wiped out.
>>69423274
>everyone who disagrees with me should be shot without trial
>don't worry the state will never turn against me
>don't worry the state will allow some pluralism but only a level that includes my beliefs
fascists are almost as bad as commies. almost. A uni-racial/cultural republic free of woman's suffrage is objectively the best form of government for whites, and anyone who disagrees needs to read more.
He really seemed to be pushing an agenda. He wants his readers to not fear the alt-right because they are a racism spewing sarlacc pit of shitposts. "Oh it's just irony and dark humor, they aren't series!"
While that may be for some people, there appear to be a lot more of people who are dead series about Nazism, racism, and general hatred.
>>69425533
Now I see why Scandinavian women salivated over my black hair and deep brown eyes. They loved the masculinity ;) and the ruggedness of a real man.
Girls really men it when they say
"Tall dark and handsome"
>>69426393
> free of woman's suffrage is objectively the best form of government for whites
So wouldn't Islamization actually be a good thing?
>tfw no matter what we can never undo chanology
>tfw this site will always be majority normies for the rest of its life
Innawoods is looking better and better every day lads
>>69421737
>Risked everything to sit on a 30 foot ship for three months to run aground on tree-dense clay and sandy earth controlled by savages.
>Turn it into the most powerful nation in human history
>pussies
holy shit you're a fucking retard
>>69425917
Right, so I guess degeneracy is just a synonym for immorality. Now, when it comes to moral philosophy, unless you're religious, you pretty much have to take a functionalist approach. As in, immoral behaviour is just behaviour that has actual harmful effects on yourself or others.
I think it is faggoty and SJW-tier thinking to make certain behaviours illegal for the sole reason that it is 'offensive' to others.
When it comes to behaviour affecting only yourself, I don't see why I shouldn't be allowed the right to be self-destructive. In a welfare state it makes sense for this to be policed, because you'll end up parasitising the public coffers, but otherwise, who cares? Why should the state intervene?
The only other type of negative behaviour left is that which directly harms others, which should obviously be outlawed and policed.
>>69426488
For Middle-Easterners perhaps, but Islam isn't part of white culture, so no. Embracing Islam would mean cultural genocide.
>>69419112
OF course we are, John Locke, Thomas Jefferson were 100% correct, The streets weren't paved with gold but you cannot deny they were 100% correct.
>>69419759
>favors a strong militaristic government
Yes, we want a strong military controlled by the government to protect our lands seeing as how protection is one of the 4 things that a government exists for.
Fuck you Milo if you lurked for you would know that it would be wrong to mention us.
Can't we get anyone who actually understands us to pay attention anymore?
>>69419112
>Libertarians hate jews and niggers
Nice try Chaim
>>69421004
t. LARPer
>>69426699
>Thomas Jefferson
>the guy who loved the idea of heavy government regulation
>100% right
I suppose you think Teddy Roosevelt wasn't a progressive either?
most of /pol/ wants sharia law based on my observations
>>69419112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJPG3Ky2NK8
Milo is wrong.
I legit would be OK with goatfucker genocide / forced mass sterilization and islam being made illegal worldwide
>>69422794
>>69422931
>>69422983
>>69424241
Most of the alt-right advocates for segregation or usually homogeneous nations. People get along best with those who share their traits, it's a simple fact so sure, why not.
>>69421737
dont know anything about your ancestors..or flag..
dont care. lmao
Alt right? We're a counter culture movement with a name now?
Cool, I guess
>>69426818
Jefferson was pro states rights, pro agriculture, pro isolationism. He wanted the U.S. to be a bastion for liberty, while Hamilton wanted the U.S. to be an industrialized world power.
Where'd you get the idea of him being a statist?
>>69419112
REMINDER:
Milo just sent a million faggots to visit /pol/
Red pill them and scare the weak ones away
Milo needs to burn for even mentioning this place
> REMEMBER: Under questioning "I'm from 9gag/ebaums world" I get my news from "Reddit"
FUCK YOU MILO
Sorry, I believe in borders. 'True' libertarians are also anti-initiating violence. I'd rather cut out a cancer before it spreads.
>>69419634
woah...
>>69426605
It really boils down to whether you're an individualist or a touch of a collectivist.
I'm a traditionalist catholic so naturally my values and moral outlook are informed by that.
I believe that the state should interfere in such things since I hold the belief that the individuals all comprise the whole that is the volksgemeinschaft, and it is the duty of the state to facilitate the growth and wellbeing of that unit. So allowing people to go off and be derelict and destroy themselves and infect those around them with their degeneracy needs to be restrained.
Its more of a case that it is a means to an end, ideally, after you go through the full LARP phase of authoritarianism, the culture will be so radically cleansed and changed that that would become the natural order, and people wouldn't devolve into such deviance or would be punished for it by society. But until that cultural shift happens, you need to drag society towards it forcibly.
That being said I'm not pants on head retarded, and I am prepared to accept that nothing will be perfect. It is ultimatelly about the public suppression of immorality / degeneracy and then putting in the formal laws against it, which would only be enforced in the cases where people are flippantly violating said laws. Like how homos have always existed even when it was punishable by imprisonment in the west, but they weren't so flippant about their flagrant disregard of the law and social mores.
>>69427086
>/pol/ will actually become satire because of his post and the influx of newnewfags
whoa nelly
>>69419112
I dislike libertarians
But I can't resist pic related
>>69425110
>Why don't you consider Greeks white?
Because they were literally occupied by kebab for 800 years and were raped constantly spoiling their once pure blood.
Same with the Spanish(300 years) and the Portuguese (somewhere around 340 years)
>>69419112
Most meme righters are former lolbertarians that got pushed over the edge by both SJWs anbd establishment cuckservatives.
>>69427056
This. I cannot think of an example of a "Jeffersonian regulation." This was a guy who refused to join the Masons because he hated the implicit institutionalizational idea of secret societies.
yes. I'm a libertarian who's voting for trump. The best way to describe us would be nationalist libertarians.
>>69426393
>shot without trial
where did I say that? I'm a mega fucking legalist by virtue of being a lawyer you dunce.
>le women's suffrage is le worst thing
This tired all woman-hating meme. Suffrage in general was a bad idea. Most people are lumpenprole and vote with their feels.
And regardless, the state will only ever get bigger, it never gets smaller. You just need to ensure that that state represents you and not your enemies.
So yeah, definitely, I want a big booty authoritarian state that aligns with my views and purges those I don't like.
Big whop.
>le read a book meme
Senpai I'm working on a PhD part-time, blow me
>>69427056
Read his journals from after the revolution.
Hamilton wanted to make us strong enough to where nobody would try to fuck with us ever again(luckily he wasn't alive to see us go to war with the French and British again).
Read The Federalist Papers, Hamilton is literally the most redpilled American to ever live. Had he not been murdered the kikes and left would have never gained a foothold in America and we probably would never have had a civil war either.
So what happens to "us" when the Internet gets shut down?
>>69421004
Please go back to stormfront and kindly fuck off.
>>69427308
Jefferson wrote the book on being a progressive, he was pro-states rights and limited government when he was young during the revolution, not to much after he became president
>>69427590
Lot of paranoid ex-NEETS bunkered down innawoods all over the place
>>69427172
Aside from the individualism/collectivism divide I think there's also a philosophical question about the legitimacy of paternalism.
I think we're basically in agreement here actually. I would just need to be presenting with a convincing argument that specific behaviours had a harmful effect before agreeing to outlawing them. I think there is an easy case to be made for making heroin illegal, but homosex and things like that I'm not so sure about.
>>69419112
>Implying there's really any effective difference between Nazis and "don't tread on me" people.
This guy is either trolling or deluded.
>>69419112
This world is ending. This presidential election is nothing but a sick representation of what's to come as everything reverses.
Like the fourth era, soon all of our realities will bleed into each other and the dragon of time will be broken.
>>69427669
Progressivism did not exist until the twilight of the imperial period.
>>69419112
IDK what an instinctive libertarian is, but I'm a member of the libertarian party.
>>69419112
I'm a libertarian who's come to the realization that the political system I envisage isn't possible with current demographic and cultural trends. Once we have a secured nation and "stronger" demographics, then we can work towards furthering the grand ideals of post-enlightenment America.
>>69427450
You literally cannot be put through a fair trial + have reasonable privacy with fascism.
>I don't think women should have the right to vote + shouldn't be culturally allowed to sexually liberate there fore I hate women
whoa man
>So yeah, definitely, I want a big booty authoritarian state that aligns with my views and purges those I don't like.
THis belief is one of the reasons fascism is so stupid. The leaders of the society and the government itself will never perfectly align with your beliefs. You're living in a fantasy land believing that everyone you don't like will go away and the level of pluralism permitted will include you. It's utopian and stupid. A at least moderate level of pluralism is absolutely necessary for a society to function properly. Hitler's Germany was only so utopian because it was in it's infancy, under true totalitarian regime (as in high mobilization and no pluralism). A lot of states have been like that. It would have ended like every other totalitarian effort and fallen into post-totalitarianism.
>>69427961
He's saying the alt-right movement wants to be libertarian, but they can't because niggers.
>>69424816
Of course he is, you diabetic tub of lard.
>>69427993
>THis belief is one of the reasons fascism is so stupid. The leaders of the society and the government itself will never perfectly align with your beliefs. You're living in a fantasy land believing that everyone you don't like will go away and the level of pluralism permitted will include you. It's utopian and stupid
So I should be far more comfortable with a society that tolerates poz and allows it fo flourish and thrive because wow just wow, muh NAP muh big gubment?
Okay pal, I see you just want to smoke your marijuanas.
>>69428023
I thought he was trying to draw an contrast between what he called natural conservatives, who are people who are more concerned with the preservation of traditional culture and white racial groups, and what he called the memesters, which are chaotic people who he thinks toss about casual insults without really meaning them and are primarily motivated by a sophomoric desire to lash out against their parents' established orthodoxy.
So when he says natural libertarian, I think he means people whose weltanschauung is very much in line with the stated official libertarian stance. But memesters may not identify as that label, or may even subscribe to a competing political philosophy. I think the "natural" qualifier is sort of his way of saying, "well, they think they believe X, but if they were true to themselves they would really believe Y." Remember, milo is a faggot.
>>69428148
>putting muh in front of a statement is a valid argument
I smoke lmao.
>>69428325
*I don't smoke lmao
>>69428325
I tip my cannabis to you sir
>>69421004
Look, Milo hypes up the fag thing way more than most of us involved in this sphere. He uses it for access, and it has worked to a large degree.
stop feeding attention to this queer little maggot
>>69419634
Nice
God Milo is Sexy
>>69419112
>the alt right has leaders
>memers are just joking
Some good parts in their but most of it is triggering desu.
>>69428463
Talk about low standards
I think it's 50/50 here on /pol/
Everything he says, He's definitely right about me.
Some people here actually are racist and shit here though
>>69419112
Yes
Ron Paul era /pol/ is the proof
Too bad most literal newfags are so clueless
>>69419112
I made a "DELETE THIS" comment on that article and they deleted it. lol guess they didn't get the joke.
>>69427794
I call shitposting, no way he was serious when he made this
>>69425917
you missed out on
>>anonymous internet forums full of perverts
people tend to forget that 4chan is extremely degenerate and internet privacy in general wouldn't and shouldn't be tolerated
>>69427924
Jefferson invented it m80
>>69419112
I am a nationalist libertarian.
>>69428810
true
>>69428885
and i am the easter bunny, a communist conservative
>people who i like must secretly agree with me
Top cuck.
LE ITZ ALL A MEME
fuck off,milo
kike faggot
>>69428535
That's because he's trolling us, for months he's been subtly dropping memes and now he writes this.
Something that both attempts to justify what we think as well as paints an inaccurate picture of us at the same time.
He's almost covering our asses but because of that completely distorts our point.
Ffs he said we don't believe in anything we really say and are only being contrarian.
>>69428810
>Ron Paul era /pol/ is the proof
You're not even close faggot
Again. Just like with Hitler, /new/ loved Ron Paul because he was as close to Nationalism as we could get just like Hitler is as close as we have ever come to Nationalism.
/pol/ is Nationalist and nothing more
>>69428839
Agreed
I also think pornographers should all be tried and shot for their crimes. Seriously, fuck them so much.
There's no such thing as alt-right.
Many of the people trying to dissect the alt right, including this article, themselves even say the alt right is just a group with certain core beliefs, and they're more so what alt-right is against, rather than for.
Wanting Germany to stay German is not something that should require a movement. It's common sense.
>>69419112
I just think milo is taking shitposting to a whole new level.
He's probably sitting behind his screen now, laughing like the faggot he is.
>>69429027
I like you
>>69428535
This >>69429069
Its necessary. Nobody would take /pol/ seriously with what they actually seriously think. Nobody. You need to embellish the truth a bit, this is something Trump does all the time anyway and the left would much rather lie than tell an embellished truth because it sounds better.
Just take what you can fucking get mate. No other place is gonna cover the alt right fairly.
>>69419112
he's co-opting
Martin Luther tried it with the jews
didn't work then either.
Fucking Jew fag can fuck right off
>>69420423
>Military position
kek no, they'd be educated and make money. So perhaps someone in a real finance job or some kind of specialized medicine job.
>>69429236
the whole internet needs to be prohibited from home use, period. no exceptions.
>>69420144
>Milo is /pol/ poison, his shills are cancer
What do you mean 'his shills'? Milo makes all those posts himself.
>>69429236
Of course they should, porn is the main reason degeneracy has hit the stride it has. It's the reason so many beautiful white women of all ages now are covered in garbage tattoos, piercings, and hairstyles as well as why they dress so disgustingly.
But remember, it's also the pioneer of all of our recent technology and without it the internet and file compressions would never have caught on like it did
>>69421004
exactly. to a smaller extent ramzpaul does the same thing. "if the alt-right is going to succeed it cant be white nationalism 2.0"
Milo has been trying to neuter /pol/ and turn it into a mainstream funposting board for awhile now. For some reason he refuses to acknowledge that we actually hate niggers, probably because he's a hypersocial faggot and instinictively knows that race realism is outside of the current overton window (even with Trump shifting it to the right) and he doesn't want to lose his job by advocating white nationalism.
tl;dr fuck off milo
>>69429494
the internet is degenerate by nature, as is the computer and all said modern technology
but good luck getting anyone to agree with this ever
electricity is basically what caused the decline of western culture in an irreversible manner.
>>69428839
>internet privacy shouldn't be tolerated
Great point. What's your first and last name, date of birth and Facebook URL, Anon? After all, privacy on the internet shouldn't be tolerated, and if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, so you'll have no problem posting all of your personal information on this board of course :^)
>>69419112
go away milo
>>69421737
Nah we got tired of being slaves to self-proclaimed kings and rich merchants. Every white person who stayed behind in Europe has effectively become the docile cattle that willingly defend their slaughters.
>>69429423
nah, there are people banking on Milo and have the means, will and manpower to guarantee him exposure
they are not very numerous, though they are obvious as shit about it
>>69429322
I see your repeating intigers and respectly acknowledge them
Fuck the new rules
>>69421004
>He does this by spending most of the article denying the basic tenants of alt-right, which are racism and anti-homosexuality and similar degeneracy
pols is just self hating fags
>>69429589
Better to just stop ISPs from offering any internet service to private users in their homes period, than to use surveillence.
The internet is a drug and needs to be treated as such. Not just porn, but also information porn and conversation porn
>>69421004
>The 1488ers, as he calls them, are more important to the alt-right than faggots like him will ever be.
Yep, and you are seeing what jewish subversion looks like in real time.
>The hardcore nationalists aren't the 'real' alt-right. I, a gay jew, declare that the 'true' alt-right is a slightly more realistic version of the cucky Christian right that is desperately clinging to power.
>>69429494
>porn is bad
>Don't dress in certain ways
Someone's well on their way to becoming Islamic.
>>69429322
>No other place is gonna cover the alt right fairly.
Why do we need to be covered at all? We cover ourselves.
Look, there's a reason the Amish are saving the white race
can you even fucking imagine how cultural marxism would have even spread if the TV and radio were simply NEVER PHYSICALLY INVENTED? Or what art would be like now if there was no such thing as photography or recording at all?
it's whites' own inventions that destroyed us
it's all technological in origin. Even feminism is the result of industrial machinery
>>69424241
>echo
fuck off kike
>>69429562
Yes it is but it is also what is required for progress.
And though we have many problems with it progress is still the white man's ultimate goal.
There is always a way and as we have proven countless times we shall find it and repair what has been broken, give it time
>>69429793
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>>69429406
kacyzinsky pls go
DONT TRUST KIKES
GET IN HERE
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>>69429406
The internet, much like the talmudvision has great capacity to be a use of good. The talmudvision was good as a means to get information easily into people's households, which is why the Nazis started laying the cables for a reich-wide cable TV network.
The internet is a marvelous tool for research and learning, with a wealth of information from a variety of sources available at one's finger tips.
The problem of course being that once the jews found a new and easier way to spread their corruption and filth into the homes and mind of the goyim, they naturally leapt at the opportunity.
>>69429773
>Not understanding the point of degeneracy
Well you ARE Canadian so I get it
>>69429906
>>progress
you're still a progressive if you think that the mid 1800's weren't good enough for the rest of history
it's insane how people believe in traditional society yet also support technological and economic "progress", the very things that destroyed it.
the Unabomber was a prophet
>>69429962
Seems like the problem is jews, not technology then. I can't see anything wrong with white people communicating with each other freely.
>>69429947
Tbh senpai Germany does need to be nuked
Not like there is much left to destroy, all the great ancient shit was destroyed after WW2 and it's mostly just reproductions now
>>69421004
I said this in another thread. If he admits that homosexuality is a mental disorder, I'll take him seriously.
As for 1488ers being more important than him, I'm going to have to heavily disagree with you on that.
Anger is a powerful emotion for facilitating change, but hatred isn't going to get you anywhere other than let people know how much of a bunch of faggots 1488ers really are.
>>69429773
Islam does have some good points. The thing is it goes way too over-the-top with extreme punishments and doesn't give people any free will. Western society should allow these things, but it shouldn't ENCOURAGE them like it does now. If a woman dresses like a slut or gets fat she shouldn't be punished for it but she should be shamed for it instead saying it's okay. If you get piercings you shouldn't be punished but you shouldn't expect to get a decent job either. If faggots like Milo want to have wild sex life with niggers then go ahead but don't think we will accept it.
>>69429962
Why is porn or any of the other things you've labeled as degenerate actually bad?
>>69421004
>unironically using the term "alt-right"
>thinking /pol/ is a cohesive body with cohesive ideologies
wew ladd
>>69428463
fuck off homo
>>69430075
Why do you think Jews are the only, or even the main factor eroding traditional values?
>>69429985
Technopaganism can exist though hombre, also stagnation is what kills societies anyway. Why do you think all those ancient civilizations stopped existing?
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Nox
>>69419112
For anyone that didn't bother reading, he was only referencing a subset of alt-rightists that are in it for the meme magic and anti-pc agenda. He draws a distinction between culture libertarians and the alt-right:
>Some enjoy violating social norms for shock value, while others take a more intellectual approach, but all oppose the pieties and hypocrisies of the current consensus — from both Left and Right — in some form or another.
>In that, the alt-right has much in common with the cultural libertarian movement first identified in these pages. And there are many people who would identify with both labels.
>>69430179
>>69430428
Anyone?
>>69419112
/pol/ was libertarian 8 years ago when ron paul was the lord and savior, of course newfags will deny this, but they'll also soon be denying /pol/ was ever overrun by christians or was ever unironically anti-semite since those elements are being jettisoned thanks to Trump and the muslim question
/pol/ is so predictable in the way it flip flops and denies it that I know for a fact that this time next year this place will be insanely MGTOW and everyone will deny it was ever rejected as anti-family on here (because hillary will steal the election kek)
>>69428216
Exactly. Do you think niggers understand anything of what you said? Hell no.
>>69431117
>unironically anti-semite
You say that like /pol/ will ever stop hating the kikes
Why is it that so many people conflate libertarianism with anarchism? If libertarians didn't want a state they would outright say it and at that point they would have already gone beyond what a libertarian is.
Personally as a libertarian, I believe the state's primary role is to protect the rights of its citizens, and the second the state encroaches on the rights of its citizens is when it has become tyrannous.
The primary difference between libertarians and anarchists is that libertarians desire a minimal state while anarchists desire no state.
In other news, an Israel court just found it legal for their "most moral army in the world" to summarily execute Arabs.
Which is fine with me, but Jews like Milo never want to talk about or point to the hypocrisy within their won tribe. He's only able to even get away with writing that article bc he's a gay, race-mixing Jew.
>>69422794
Alt-right isn't one ideology. Even if it includes a bunch of white supremacists, there's nothing stopping you from having your own politically incorrect rightist ideology.
>>69429069
Yes the contrarian part pissed me off hard. We are fighting back against the rebellious fuckheads who have won tons of ground and are ruining western civilization. It's like the screencap from here that basically comments on how society is such shit that the people fighting for tradition are the "edgy" ones that have to resort to communicating on 4chan of all places.
Reducing it to "for the lulz" is also ridiculous. Just because we are laughing doesn't mean we aren't serious.
>>69429322
I understand what you are saying but /pol/ doesn't need to be covered.
>>69431204
what has that to do with anything?
I love how he mentions "virtue-signaling," then points out 5 times he's a queer jew and his co-writer is a Paki-- so it's OK for THEM to write about this and not lose their jobs.
>>69419634
over 9000 hours in photoshop
>>69431682
>I understand what you are saying but /pol/ doesn't need to be covered.
The media won't give /pol/ a choice. They're gonna do it anyway.
>>69426553
absolutely BTFO
I've actually never thought about it that way burger bro, our ancestors were based.
>>69431706
Niggers don't understand freedom and liberty.
>>69431682
I think there are those who do it for the lulz. Look at Mister Metokur, for example. He may have once believed our ideology when he was still the Internet Aristocrat, but now his stated position is to just dance in the light of the flames of civilization as it burns to the ground.
You may be fighting back more seriously. But some are not. Part of the point of the piece was to point out that there isn't one single motivating ideology for the alt right.
>>69419112
Absolutely not, libertarians need to be ovened.
>>69431813
This is very true. If we ever managed to get any kind of real power, the media would fight us to the death. Until one day we won and they would instantly flip and pretend they were on our side the entire time.
>>69431831
Even if that were true it has nothing to do with anything else.
>>69431721
That's a good point. And then he denegrates what he calls 1488 people and stormfags, and talks about going to secret dinner parties without them.
Actually those bits didn't really sound like milo. Probably his butt buddy wrote those.
I'm libertarian, but am I really alt-right?
Is there a test to find out?
>>69432081
stop letting others define you
>>69419112
>>69419112
i'm a race realist, a white nationalist, and a cultural conservative
still anarcho-capitalist though
I'm a libertarian who cares about my country, so that makes me alt right? The article isn't bad but it rejects for nat soc behavior in a way the left would never reject the fringe black and feminist movements. Even though he calls out the msm on this very thing he still can't break the social restrictions, eh?
>>69426039
Its still under the textbook definition of an empire.
>>69419759
/pol is constitutionalist. The libertarian party is big business globalists masquerading under constitutionalism.
I will say the libertarian party is ripe for infiltrating, there are many self described libertarians who are closed borders strong military nationalists
>>69432081
If you are a nationalist libertarian the answer is yes
Most people here went along these lines:
libkek in high-school ----> libertarian phase ----> nationalism + authoritarianism endpoint
>>69419112
only when it comes to niggers and mudslimes. i don't want to pay taxes to support them breeding.
