Life is a futile meaningless game where literally whatever you do, you're just chasing a neurochemical reward in your brain. It doesn't matter how materialistic or spiritual you are, it's all the same, just neurons firing gratification patterns in your head.
By merely existing you are imposing suffering and death upon other sentient beings and yourself, it doesn't matter how vegan or ethical you are, your very existence creates carnage around you. And you will also ultimately suffer and die no matter who you are or what you do in this life.
There won't be any lost loved ones or god(s) waiting for you on the other side of death either, all religion and promises of an afterlife is just the neurotic fantasy of petty doomed beings desperately trying justify their meaningless existence.
The universe and all life in has no intrinsic meaning and the only guarantee you have as a sentient being is that your very brief existence will be replaced by the eternal void of no awareness after your bodily functions cease.
>babbys first nihilism
>>69413662
YEAHHHHH!!! Let's skip math class tomorrow :^)
>>69413662
then go hero faggot. it suits you
>>69413662
Just because you can't see a meaning doesn't mean there isn't one. You can't know the unknowable, that's all there is to it. Stop being such a miserable pissant and accept that things like the meaning of life and the origin of the universe and what lies after death will be forever beyond your grasp. There could be something or then again maybe there isn't. Could you imagine how shitty life would be if you actually did know?
>>69413662
that's very negative and pessimistic.
Life is about lineage and honour. Kill yourself op.
All life forms live to reproduce. We are just insects with really big brains.
>op is literally a mentally ill, genetically damaged, mutant
Heretical
Nihilism is a logical floor, a base line. It is up to you to build whatever you wish on top of that floor,or you can continue crying on the floor with your woe is me attitude.
>>69414077
kek, FPBP
OP, I know it feels like it, but you're not unique in this pattern of thinking. Most people go through similar crises.
You're not wrong though, so make of this realization what you will.
fucking norway
>>69413662
t. Baby's first angst.
If life has no value then off yourself.
>Nihilism on /pol/
Nigga we all went through that month long phase when we were 15 whilst listening to Linkin Park
>>69413662
>believing in the neurochemical Jew
The bluest of all pills.
>>69416473
Nihilism is the logical conclusion your 5 senses will take you. I hope you realize the rest of your post is nothing more then a defense mechanism.
OP is correct and it upsets you deeply.
>>69413662
Still, you gotta laugh, right?
>>69413662
Why the fuck are Norwegians so into this? Almost every Norwegian writer wrote about this sort of stuff, definitely every philosopher. Is it Vitamin D deficiency making you sad?
>>69417032
The only people who believe in nihilism are fat, retarded mutants who have no chance in passing on their genes. It's what mental retards tell themselves so they can feel comforted in being genetic dead-ends.
You are a flesh robot yes? You are not functional, time to self terminate.
>>69417159
They see Sweden going up in flames and lose hope.
>>69416423
There you go chasing those highs again, neurotransmitter slave.
>>69413662
>literally whatever you do, you're just chasing a neurochemical reward in your brain. It doesn't matter how materialistic or spiritual you are, it's all the same, just neurons firing gratification patterns in your head.
You do not judge an action by it's motivations, but by it's consequences.
>There won't be any lost loved ones or god(s) waiting for you on the other side of death either
There is neither evidence for nor against your claim. Your statement is thus a statement of belief, not of fact. It is both unscientific and anti-pragmatic to be atheist.
>universe and all life in has no intrinsic meaning
There is no such thing as intrinsic meaning. All meaning is subjective.
>your very brief existence will be replaced by the eternal void of no awareness after your bodily functions cease.
Even if we accept your premise as correct, it has no bearing on the value that can be derived from this moment. You commit the error of assuming all value exists in the future, when in truth all value exists in the present.
>>69413662
CRAWWWWWWLING IN MY SKIIIIIN
>"What characterizes modern life is the failure of all traditional immortality ideologies to absorb man's hunger for self-perpetuation and heroism. Neurosis is today a widespread problem because of the disappearance of convincing dramas of heroic apotheosis of man."
-Becker
"The neurotic loses every kind of collective spirituality, and makes the heroic gesture of placing himself entirely within the immortality of his own ego. The neurotic type suffers from a consciousness of sin just as much as did his religious ancestor, without believing in the conception of sin. This is precisely what makes him 'neurotic'; he feels a sinner without the religious belief in sin for which he therefore needs a rational explanation."
-Rank
>"Anxiety is the possibility of freedom, because anxiety demolishes all finite aims, and so the man who is educated by possibility is educated in accordance with his infinity.
>"Now the dread of possibility holds him as its prey, until it can deliver him saved into the hands of faith. In no other place does he find repose..."
-Kierkegaard
Truly, the spite flowing from the lips of the believers, the hate which transparently covers their fear, the personal invective - they all speak far more eloquently than words of reason ever could. Forsooth, you have convinced me of an invisible old man in the sky.
>>69417032
The problem with nihilism is that it completely overlooks the psychological need for purpose and actually wanting to engage with the world. Sure you can be an edgelord and spew venom towards a meaningless world but it won't get you anything.
It's called babbys first existential crisis for good reason.
Read Man's Search for Himself by Rollo May. You will start living life away from the dread of knowing the truths of the world.
>>69413662
Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendent, and to embrace them is to achieve enlightenment.
>>69413662
>just chasing a neurochemical reward in your brain.
Explaining things in a scientific matter does not invalidate their practical results - deconstructing the concepts of happiness and sadness does not make you practically less or more sad.
>It doesn't matter
Subjective
>how materialistic or spiritual you are, it's all the same, just neurons firing gratification patterns in your head.
Same argument as above. Using relativism to claim that feelings are just chemistry does not make you not enjoy the rewards of your life.
>very existence creates carnage around you
Not consistent with the meaninglessness of life. Why is it relevant if your claims are correct?
>There won't be any lost loved ones or god(s) waiting for you on the other side of death either, all religion and promises of an afterlife is just the neurotic fantasy of petty doomed beings desperately trying justify their meaningless existence.
You have no way of knowing this, and it does not invalidate the meaning of life, but the existence of the afterlife.
Anyway, on a personal note, you are a subverted teen, and you should by all means suicide if you truly believe the shit you type down and post.
>>69413662
vhemt.org
>>69413662
>arrives at this conclusion using the same banal chemical process
of thought
>expects us to care about it anyway
>>69417409
You are the sum of your parts, our purpose is to pass on our genetics, ugly people are natures way of showing others they are not fit for mating.
Beware of the ugly ones anon, they are evil.
>>69418033
Men are not supposed to be pretty you prancing sissy boy. Men are strong, Women are pretty.
1) The infant feels itself omnipotent, a God. It cries, and food and warmth appear from the void, self-created.
"I can imagine that the oceanic feeling could become connected with religion later on." -Sigmund Freud
2) The child eventually learns the truth. It is a bag of flesh, bound by determinism, and subject to decay and death. This causes anxiety and dread.
3) To aid the child in escaping anxiety and dread, society teaches it the vital lies of Character and Culture. Character offers the means to function in society with self-esteem and confidence, through denial of one's fundamental human condition. Culture provides symbolic forms of meaning and purpose, a sense of heroism to serve as a bulwark against death, ranging from the high heroism of a Churchill, to the low heroism of a farmer.
"With the truth, one cannot live. The more man can take appearance as truth, the sounder, the better adjusted, the happier he will be ... this constantly effective process of self-deceiving, pretending, and blundering, is no psychopathologial mechanism." -Otto Rank
"The essence of normality is the refusal of reality." -Ernest Becker
4) With the vital lies of Character and Culture at hand, the individual often loses himself in the immediacy of life. He works, eats, procreates, and lives according to the symbolic ideals and meaning handed to him by society, with entertainment serving as escape. The vast majority of people will remain in this stage until death. Kierkegaard referred to this type as the "immediate" men.
"Philistinism tranquilizes itself in the trivial" -Soren Kierkegaard
5) Some people are more sensitive to the lie of cultural life that others are so thoughtlessly and trustingly caught up in, and feel a fundamental contempt for "immediacy." Kierkegaard calls such individuals "introverts." Introversion is impotence, but an impotence which is self-conscious to a degree, and it is this self-consciousness which is troublesome. Such individuals harbor a need to break free from culturally constructed meaning as the basis for the meaning of life. Historically, society instilled the most important ingredient of all: religious faith, which offered the sole means for absolute transcendence. The modern, secular society's loss of faith in the soul and God has broken down the primary cure for existential dread.
"What characterizes modern life is the failure of all traditional immortality ideologies to absorb man's hunger for self-perpetuation and heroism. Neurosis is today a widespread problem because of the disappearance of convincing dramas of heroic apotheosis of man." -Becker
>>69413662
Hi, my name is Zarathustra, nice to meet you.
>>69418033
>ugly people are natures way of showing others they are not fit for mating.
If I find a women I knew once more attractive when I meet her again after a few years, does it mean that she got genetically superior?
6) With introversion and the breaking of culturally constructed meaning comes a recognition of the truth of one's condition. With a recognition of the truth, the anxiety and dread of the child returns. The individual struggles to ease anxiety and dread by searching for legitimate sources of meaning and purpose to replace the lies of Character and Culture.
In the modern age, the individual will typically turn to psychology and medication to cure their natural, neurotic despair. The promise of psychology and pharmocology, like all of modern science, was that it would usher in the era of happiness, by showing us how things worked, how one thing caused another. But now we come up against the fallacy of psychological self-scrutiny. The scientific victory of replacing religious faith with psychological introspection has caused more problems than it solved.
"Psychology, which is gradually trying to supplant religious and moral ideology, is only partially qualified to do this, because it is a preponderantly negative and disintegrating ideology.
"Psychoanalysis failed therapeutically because it aggravated man's psychologizing rather than healed him of his introspection." -Otto Rank
Sin and Neurosis are two ways of talking about the same thing - the complete isolation of the individual, his disharmony with the rest of nature, his hyperindividualism, his attempt to create his own world from within himself, his refusal to recognize his cosmic dependence.
"Both the sinner and the neurotic experience the naturalness of human insufficiency, only today the neurotic is stripped of the symbolic world-view, the God-ideology that would make sense of of his unworthiness and would translate it into heroism." -Becker
Thus the plight of modern man: a sinner with no word for it, who seeks a rational explanation for his isolation in psychology, and thus only aggravates the problem of his separateness and hyperconsciousness.
7) Dread proceeds to categorically destroy all human (finite) ends and purposes, until all that can remain is the infinite.
"Anxiety is the possibility of freedom, because anxiety demolishes all finite aims, and so the man who is educated by possibility is educated in accordance with his infinity.
"Now the dread of possibility holds him as its prey, until it can deliver him saved into the hands of faith. In no other place does he find repose..." -Kierkegaard
The school of anxiety eventually arrives at faith. A faith that despite one's true insignificance, weakness, death, one's existence has meaning in some ultimate sense because it exists within an eternal and infinite scheme of things brought about and maintained to some kind of design by some creative force. Life thereby acquires ultimate value in place of merely social and cultural, historical value.
"So soon as psychology has finished with dread, it has nothing to do but to deliver it over to dogmatics." -Kierkegaard
>>69413662
What neurochemical rewards are you seeking by making a post like this when by tomorrow no one will even remember it existed?
It's a rather existential thing you're doing OP.
We are indeed petty and we may very well be living in the stone ages relative to what we will soon uncover.
Humans have the potential to become Gods and they will engineer any means and abstracts necessary to achieve that state. Who is to say that type of thinking was not employed on this infrastructure we stand on?
>>69418335
Not really, then again maybe. It's upto you to decide, ugly people are not evil because they are ugly, the become evil due to lack of love.
Our purpose is to safe guard this world and sustain it, meanwhile reproducing and passing on our genetics.
Yes we are flesh robots, but our programmer was the smartest nerd to ever exist.
>>69413662
>The universe and all life in has no intrinsic meaning and the only guarantee you have as a sentient being is that your very brief existence will be replaced by the eternal void of no awareness after your bodily functions cease.
that's where Buddhism comes in ans says you're supposed to break the cycle so youre not reborn into the same pattern of suffering and death. Not sure who has time for that. Im still going to get pussy while the pussy getting is good.
>>69418584
I just don't see how you can associate attractiveness, which is subjective, to genetic quality, which is objective.
The fitting suggestion would be "People you find attractive are more genetically compatible with you", in my opinion.
>>69418814
It's natures way of showing us a persons genetics. Babies will not breast feed if their mother is ugly, and people tend to go for the most attractive mate. It's a genetic flag.
The creator made us this way for a reason.
>>69418379
Understand too that anxiety and fear can be molded into courage and action. The entropy of today is the decisions we make later, or decide not to make. When you frame your existence through abundance, you no longer want nor need but instead want others to realize the simplest concept yet the hardest one to activate: In the beginning there was darkness. Now get moving
>>69419254
>When you frame your existence through abundance
Yes, but the TRP-style ideology of "abundance" leads to little more than the culturally constructed meaning inherent in hoarding wealth, growing muscles, and getting pussy.
This animalistic, biologically driven ideology has some sense to it, but to any individual with self-consciousness and intelligence, it is fundamentally lacking.
>>69413662
You had me all the way up until that last part
When the human condition is cured we'll cease to be human. You are what you are, you'll celebrate your existence in all that you do.
The delusional level of perceived agency via consciousness is of no concern to the particles that comprise that consciousness.
To apply it practically, happiness and success will come and go. Your neurosis will sometimes be less, sometimes more. But most importantly, choose what you want to be and become it.
>this is how atheists feel every waking moment of their lives
lmao, no wonder atheists are all cucks
>>69413662
Yeah but dat ass doe.
>>69418997
Except babies don't get their sight until 8 months of age. Up to that point everything is a blur.
Silly.
Pursue something in life that will echo in eternity.
>>69423185
this
>>69413662
The meaning of life is life, life is a private conversation with god
At this point in your life you have discovered that god doesn't talk first
>>69413662
The logical follow-up question to nihilism is "so what?" If nothing matters, then by definition nothing mattering doesn't matter. It has zero effect on your day-to-day reality.
Neurochemical rewards feel good, so my goal is to acquire as many as possible. When I die, my purpose or lack thereof makes no difference to anyone. My enemies will also die in time, while my achievements inevitably crumble into nothing. One thing is certain though: what happened, happened. Time is linear.
>The universe can't unfuck all those girls
>The universe can't unsmoke all the weed
>The universe can't uneat all that red meat and candy
>The universe too will end, impotent and alone
>>69418033
>ugly people are natures way of showing others they are not fit for mating.
If your wife could meet Brad Pitt she would never ever find you attractive again, i guarantee you.
It's always
>im more beautiful then X
>X is more beautiful then me
>>69413662
Plebs were never meant to have the amount of information they do today
Honestly the average man is not better off knowing about neurochemicals, evolution, or even weather
All we know is that we know nothing
The reason plebs shouldn't have knowledge is because they don't know that they know nothing
>>69416423
And most sucessfull organisms are bacteria and not humans.
So go, find a way to shrink yourself to bacteria level and don't forget to remove your brain, else you won't ever be as successful as them.
>>69413662
Yeah, pretty much. So?
>>69413662
>>69413662
Prove it
Prove it all
How do you know anything?
>>69426597
Except for the part about weed, this.
>>69413662
Yeah of course nothing matters, doesn't mean I can't enjoy life.
>>69413662
This.
>>69413662
Yea OK I don't care.
>>69413662
>advanced bait thread
I just realized I fell for it
A thread should autosage unless there is at least one response by the OP in the thread
>>69417013
>believing that he is something more than his brain.
Fact: literally not one thing you have cannot be taken away with a little brain damage.
>>69428102
>believing we understand the brain
>believing YOU understand the brain
Tisk tisk tisk
>>69423185
Damn
That's all well and good but it ain't gonna stop me from enjoying the ride
>>69413662
>>69413662
>worried about the destination instead of the journey
>>69413662
>your very existence creates carnage around you
A Nihilist doesn't believe in carnage
Checkb8 m8
You literally can't prove that there isn't something after life, or that there isn't something beyond rationality. So get the fuck out.
>>69413662
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>>69419514
So then what affirmation of the self exists besides this?
>>69413662
>Life is a futile meaningless game where literally whatever you do, you're just chasing a neurochemical reward in your brain. It doesn't matter how materialistic or spiritual you are, it's all the same, just neurons firing gratification patterns in your head.
>By merely existing you are imposing suffering and death upon other sentient beings and yourself, it doesn't matter how vegan or ethical you are, your very existence creates carnage around you. And you will also ultimately suffer and die no matter who you are or what you do in this life.
>There won't be any lost loved ones or god(s) waiting for you on the other side of death either, all religion and promises of an afterlife is just the neurotic fantasy of petty doomed beings desperately trying justify their meaningless existence.
>The universe and all life in has no intrinsic meaning and the only guarantee you have as a sentient being is that your very brief existence will be replaced by the eternal void of no awareness after your bodily functions cease.
I know. Still better than nothing (death) though.
And I'm suicidal.
>>69429680
You are going to die.
>>69430981
Self is purely social.
>>69413662
Yeah, yeah, thanks Norway, we get it, you're depressed. Go drink some oil and get back to work.
>>69413662
>Life is a [...] game
Horse shit. There is no win-state.
>>69426597
my nigger.
Where the fuck did this gay trend start from?
>Happiness is just chemicals in your brain
>Colors are just a reflection of light
>Tits are just lumps of fat
Yeah, I guess everything sounds unimpressive if you atomize it. That's what I call it atomizing things. Taking a simple concept and over analyzing the fuck out of it till it has no meaning.
Just stop asking "why" for everything and just do it.
>>69429405
that's some Khorne-tier shit. I like it.
>>69413662
The abstract mental construct of the color red is quite real to me. Why can't meaning be too? And if meaning is real within my living experience, why should I care whether meaning exists outside it?
>>69413662
You might be right. But if you are, then it doesn't hurt to believe in something. And on the chance that you're wrong, then it's probably better to live your life.
There is no logical reason to act on nihilism, even if there is evidence that it might be right.
>>69417833
His purpose should be to cuck kikes.
I've dedicated my life to the advancing of science. so at least when I die I will leave something behind.
>>69434255
I have dedicated life to be a NEET? Never work and fap all day, that way I have fun and in the end that is all that matters!
>>69413662
Fucking die you shit Nord.
Go preach the god you supposedly don't believe in cause you're a huge faggot.
>>69413662
we have no idea what eternal void of no awareness is for us. to others were a dead and rotten corpse. but what are we to ourselves after death? until it happens we have no clue.
but to say no gods exist is stupid and useless. your only hurting yourself and making your current life shittier with this mentality. A place with nothing. not even hope or god? sounds an awful lot like hell to me. and if god promises us everlasting peace and love with him after death, why would you not want to believe that?
like i said we wont know what happens until it happens for each of us but why would you intentionally make a pessimistic choice when you could just choose to make an optimistic choice and believe in eternal life after death. dont be lifes buzzkill. dont worry be happy.
>>69414077
This. Leave pol and don't come back until you are 18
>>69413662
Nice nihilistic opinion, bro. Looks like crass materialism really did a number on you. I'll be over here seeking the infinite consciousness of the Monad while you play in the dirt the Demiurge trapped you in.
>>69417409
you are chasing neuro transmitters by shitposting.
the trick is to chase neurotransmitters in such a way as to feel it was worth it in the end.
that can be hard to see if you are persuaded everything is meaningless.
>>69421959
well put
>>69413662
Nietzsche was a faggot who couldnt handle the bantz
